Andrew Wamser
Analyst · Sidoti. Your line is now open
Yes, I'll take that. I'll take the first one, Julie, if you want to add on. So, when we talk to the business unit leaders, I think universally, everyone's saying that the demand is going to be pretty strong. I think when we talked about some of the softness in Q1, it really is a destocking, sort of inventory destocking. So I really do sort of isolate it to that. And then when I think about also Q1, there are just, I would say some one-off sort of inefficiencies that we had, as we ran into the start of the year and then also some of these strikes that we're having in France, which we don't expect that to continue. But I think the comments about destocking I think are probably something you've heard from others talk about and it's something that we've seen and we even saw coming a little bit into, in November when we spoke, we thought coming into Q4 as well. But we feel really confident when we look at the end markets in terms of protective solutions, filtration, release liners, all those businesses. We feel really confident in terms of what that growth outlook is. I think the second thing I would say is when you think, look about the input environment, when we get to the second half of the year, the input environment should be much more favorable than where we were on the front half. So in the front half, so energy will be up year-over-year, materials like pulp, should be going up year-over-year, but then when you look at the NBSK, that should be more favorable as we look into the back half of the year. So when we sort of think about the entire complex, we see a good second half, sort of setting up where you could have good demand with a favorable input environment.