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Manhattan Associates, Inc. (MANH)

Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, Jan 30, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Sherry, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everybody to Manhattan Associates' Fourth Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, the call is being recorded today, January 30, 2024. I would now like to introduce your host, Mr. Michael Bauer, Head of Investor Relations of Manhattan Associates. Mr. Bauer, you may begin your conference.

Michael Bauer

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Sherry, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Manhattan Associates' 2023 fourth quarter earnings call. I will review our cautionary language and then turn the call over to Eddie Capel, our CEO. During this call, including the question-and-answer session, we may make forward-looking statements regarding the future events or the future financial performance of Manhattan Associates. You are cautioned that these forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, are not guarantees of future performance, and that actual results may differ materially from the projections contained in our forward-looking statements. I refer you to the reports Manhattan Associates files with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our projections, particularly our annual report on Form 10-K for fiscal year 2022 and the risk factor discussion in that report as well as any risk factor updates we provide in our subsequent Form 10-Qs. We note that turbulent global macro environment could impact our performance and cause actual results to differ materially from our projections. We are under no obligation to update these statements. In addition, our comments include certain non-GAAP financial measures to provide additional information to investors. We have reconciled all non-GAAP measures to the related GAAP measures in accordance with SEC rules. You'll find reconciliation schedules in the Form 8-K we submitted to the SEC earlier today and on our website at manh.com. Now I'll turn the call over to Eddie.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Thanks Mike. Good afternoon, everybody, and a belated happy New Year. And thanks for joining us as we review our results for the fourth quarter and full year 2023 as well as provide our outlook for 2024. So 2023 was a very successful year for Manhattan, setting new records in total revenue, RPO, operating profit, free cash flow and earnings per share. And to drive future growth and innovation, we also invested record amounts in our people and in research and development. In 2023, we increased our headcount by about 10%, and our R&D investment was over $125 million. Now for perspective, over the past five years, we've invested over $0.5 billion in R&D across mission-critical commerce and supply chain technology solutions. And this level of consistent commitment is really unmatched in our industry and is one of the Manhattan's important differentiators. And given the size of the opportunity and growing demand, we're committed to increasing these investments in 2024 and beyond. These investments will also contribute to our industry-leading levels of customer satisfaction, growing our addressable market and extending our position as the leading innovator in supply chain execution, omnichannel and point-of-sale solutions. Now while we remain appropriately cautious regarding the global economy, our business fundamentals are solid, and we're optimistic about our long-term market opportunity. Like prior years, we're entering 2024 with good visibility and benefiting from several growth drivers, which include the acquisition of new customers, conversions of on-premise customers to cloud and cross-selling our growing unified product portfolio. So pivoting to our quarterly results, Q4 was a record quarter that frankly exceeded our expectations. Revenue increased 20% as reported to $238 million, highlighted by 38% growth in cloud, 19% growth in services and double-digit revenue growth across all of our geographies. These strong results drove top-line…

Dennis Story

Analyst

Thanks, Eddie. As Eddie highlighted, in 2023, we set all-time records in RPO, total revenue, operating profit, free cash flow and earnings per share. So a big shout out to 4,600 team members across the globe, great execution through the year. For both the quarter and the year, we delivered a strong balanced financial performance on top line growth and operating margin. Both our Q4 and full year results exceeded expectations and compare favorably to the Rule of 50. And if our revenue growth is normalized for our cloud transition, which excludes license and maintenance attrition, our performance is even stronger. Importantly, Manhattan continues to deliver strong, consistent results across revenue growth, profitability and cash flow. I'll start with recapping our financial performance for the quarter and year. Regarding FX, it was a one-point tailwind to Q4 revenue growth and did not impact our full year revenue growth rate. For RPO, FX was a one-point tailwind to both year-over-year and sequential growth. Now to our results. All growth rates are on an as-reported year-over-year basis unless otherwise stated. For Q4, total revenue, total revenue was up 238 or was $238 million, up 20%, and full year revenue totaled $929 million, up 21%. Excluding license and maintenance revenue, which removes the revenue compression by our Cloud transition, Q4 revenue growth was 24% and full year 28%, some nice double-digit returns here. Q4 Cloud revenue totaled $71 million, up 38% with full year revenue totaling $255 million, up 44%. We closed out 2023 with RPO of $1.4 billion growing 36% year-over-year and 8% sequentially as we experienced strength from across our Manhattan Active Suite of products. Excluding FX impacts, RPO exceeded the high end of our $1.4 billion outlook by $13 million, which was stronger than expected. Services had another fantastic year…

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Thanks, Dennis. Well, indeed, 2023 was a very successful year for Manhattan. And while we remain appropriately cautious, given the volatile macro conditions that are out there, our business fundamentals and momentum are very solid, right. Manhattan enters 2024 as the industry leader with world class technology, with record levels of R&D investment that’s contributing to our 75% plus win rates in the field, with industry leading levels of customer satisfaction, and a strong pipeline with numerous drivers for sustainable long-term growth. So, in closing, I’d just like to echo Dennis’ comments and thank all of the Manhattan team members around the world for a fantastic 2023. Your dedication and commitment to our growing customer base is just unparalleled and clearly one of our key differentiators. So, Sherry, that concludes our prepared remarks, and we’d be happy to take any questions at this point.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Terry Tillman with Truist Securities. Please proceed.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, Eddie, Dennis and Mike. And it’s great to hear all the talk about the billions. Maybe, Eddie a question for you and then I had a couple of follow-ups for Dennis. As we just get further along in kind of the monetizing the cloud innovation cycles that you have. I’m curious, are you starting to see customers, whether it’s existing customers or prospects kind of look at all the things you have from a platform perspective, so supply chain unified commerce, and starting to think about, hey, we want to go – get more aggressive initially with more like a platform deal where it’s a couple of major kind of sets of products as opposed to maybe WMS or OMS or PS. I’m just kind of curious about the buying behaviour. If they’re starting to feel like, hey, yes, we want to go bigger, faster, or does it still feel like, no, there’s the initial wedge, and then over time they add the other products. Kind of curious about the buying behaviour around just all the way you’ve delivered with the platform.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes, sure. It’s a great question, Terry and it’s really latter. Primarily if you think about it, because these are pretty big initiatives let’s just say, WMS and order management or something, any two of the major products, they’re pretty big initiatives in themselves. And usually our customers can only digest one of them at a time. So they’re unlikely, let’s take that example, to buy WMS and OMS, knowing that they’ve got to pay OMS SaaS fees, whilst not beginning an implementation for six, nine, maybe even 12 months. So I think they have a vision to be able to build on the platform and acquire additional products down the road. But just practically speaking, it doesn’t make a ton of sense, frankly, to pay SaaS fees for products that you can’t get to the implementation of.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

Okay, I understood on that. And I guess maybe, Dennis, just to follow-up in terms of the cloud booking strength in the quarter. It was great to see in the upside. I’m curious, if you could talk a little bit double clicking into that in terms of was there just some greater large deal exposure or benefits in the quarter or was there a larger number of just actual kind of units or customers signed up? Just kind of curious if there was anything that was interesting or different versus the prior couple quarters. And then I had a follow-up.

Dennis Story

Analyst

I don’t know about interesting or different. I thought it was pretty consistent, kind of across the board, Terry.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yep, I would agree with that Dennis. I mean, I’ll tell you, we had no record size deals in the quarter. We always liked those, but we had no record sized deals in the quarter. I would say from a geographic perspective, we had very good and very nice sort of balanced contribution from both the Americas, EMEA and APAC that that was enjoyable.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

Yes. Yes, it sounds enjoyable. I guess just a follow-up question for Dennis or Eddie or Mike, it’s just related to – did move up the RPO balance a little bit. So that was nice to see, just given that we’re still in the beginning of the year. One thing I’m curious about is, it does look like 1Q and 4Q were the biggest RPO or the bookings quarters in 2023. I’m not trying to pin you down the quarter where you kind of guided. But is there starting to be a common buying pattern with these cloud deals? Maybe it’s at the very beginning of the year or very end of the year with budget flush. I’m just trying to get a sense on if you could kind of foretell how like there’s a pattern recognition now around booking? Thank you guys. Great job.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Thank you, Terry. No, not really. So, I would say definitely no budget flush at the end of the year, given that, obviously, their annual subscription fees. So there’s no license buys right at the end of the year or anything like that in terms of budget flush. Q1, I can see maybe – thank you for saying you’re not going to pin us down on this. But I think in Q1, we sometimes see a little bit of a stronger buying pattern, because there’s still time to get systems in before peak, if you kind of buy early in Q1. So that is definitely an opportunity there for us, but no budget flush at the end of the Q4 [ph]. Thanks.

Terry Tillman

Analyst

Thank you.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Thank you, Terry.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Brian Peterson with Raymond James. Please proceed.

Brian Peterson

Analyst

Thanks gentlemen. Congrats on the strong quarter. So Eddie, I’d love to get an update. I know in the past, you’ve shared some details on the number of booked customers or implemented customers for Active WM. Any updated perspective that you can share there?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes. I think I can. We’re at somewhere – I don’t have the exact number, frankly, off the top of my head, but we’re 120-plus of contracted customers. Live customers, again, don’t quote me to the exact; we’re about 75 live customers and right at 200 – just over 200 facilities live around the globe. So – and some of those, of course, are very large facilities, highly automated and so forth. So with, call it, 125, 75 and 200, I mean, this is a rock-solid proven solution now. We went through, of course, the peak season of 2022 with live Manhattan Active WM customers but as you can tell, we had hundreds of facilities that went through peak of 2023. So, I think it’s sort of a take it to the bank bulletproof solution that’s proven at the top end of the market now.

Brian Peterson

Analyst

No, it’s great to see that progress. And maybe just a follow-up on services hiring and anything on productivity. I just – obviously, we got the guide for the margins, but I’d love to understand how you guys are thinking about services capacity in 2024? Thanks guys.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes. We plan on increasing capacity, obviously, to help with customer satisfaction and so forth. As we’ve talked about before, hiring came in a little lower in 2023 than we had originally projected at the beginning of the year, only because we saw attrition very low, frankly. So, we modulated our hiring accordingly. The onboarding and the productivity of the team members that we brought on has been outstanding, frankly. Now that’s a combination to our kind of services operations team, all of the training programs, the center of excellence we have and so forth that is very focused on making those individuals productive as soon as we possibly can, but certainly expect several hundred hires this year as well.

Brian Peterson

Analyst

Thank you.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Pleasure, Brian. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Joe Vruwink with Baird. Please proceed.

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Hi great. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start with the Shopify alliance, which sounds pretty interesting. You mentioned there’s some existing customer overlap. Can you maybe quantify that or where you see the most synergies in the customer base today? And then obviously, when you think about the global Shopify merchant count, that’s a massive number. I would imagine that’s not all addressable by kind of your enterprise-grade technology. But what sort of expansion in audience do you think this could ultimately mean for Manhattan?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes. So let’s see, great question. Look, this is driven probably a little more to be perfectly honest Joe with Shopify obviously has a fabulous history, a really great technology platform, and have been doing exceptionally well in. I hope they won't be offended by this, but in the SMB space and have gradually been coming up the stack toward the enterprise where we play. So that's why we've started to see a lot more sort of cross fertilization of prospects and customers as they come up into kind of the real enterprise class versus us going down so much into SMB. We've had that conversation many, many times about our focus on both Tier 1 and Tier 2. But we really do think the combination of our advanced technology and platform and Shopify's advanced technology and platform can really deliver some substantial and very effective and efficient results for our customer base and so forth. And one of the beauties and I mentioned this in my prepared remarks. Both they and we are very focused on essentially speed to value. They’ve become – they are experts at this for the smaller merchants and so forth. And we think together we can bring that fast, efficient, effective enablement up into the enterprise.

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Okay. That's great. And then maybe one for you and Dennis. Just the maintenance revenues they have been exceeding plan still growing here in 4Q. Obviously appreciate the 2024 outlook and maybe the pace of attrition picking up. I'm wondering if you just have any updated thoughts on kind of the migration timeline and those existing on-prem customers. You mentioned at the beginning, what sort of duration might you expect for the majority to ultimately choose one of your cloud offerings?

Dennis Story

Analyst

Yes. I mean, look, I've been saying it for a pretty long time. I think it's a six to seven year run. Now, it would be fair of you to say, but Eddie, you said six to seven years at the beginning of the year, and now you're saying six to seven years at the beginning of this year as well. Yes, it's still in that range, Joe, would be my estimate to get through the bulk of the transitions. My guess is they'll still be 5%, 10% at the end of that period of time. There'll be sort of laggards and so forth, but it's a six or seven year journey in my view.

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Okay, very good. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Dennis Story

Analyst

I'm sorry. The one thing I'll mention, just a reminder there, Joe. We essentially offer no incentives for either our customers or for our sales guys in a sales team to promote it. Our strategy is when the time is right, we're there for you. So there's no incentive and frankly, there's no…

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Gun to the head.

Dennis Story

Analyst

Gun to the head. Thank you. I was going to try and look for a better, nicer expression than that, but there's no threats of lack of support or anything else.

Joe Vruwink

Analyst

Yes. Okay, I understood. Thank you.

Dennis Story

Analyst

Thank you, Joe.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Mark Schappel with Loop Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Mark Schappel

Analyst

Thank you for taking my question and nice job on the quarter, guys. Eddie, with respect to your point-of-sale business, I was wondering if you could just highlight or point out some of the biggest opportunities you face and also some of the challenges you're facing right now. So, for instance, are you facing challenge wise, are you facing more so in the marketing side or maybe in the product side?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes. Great question, Mark. So let's start with the challenges, get those out of the way. I just think we've still got a little bit of an awareness challenge at this. We are beating the drums and telling neighbors, friends, and aunts and uncles as best as we possibly can about this world class solution that we have. Number one. Now at the National Retail Federation Show Conference, I should say a couple of weeks ago, and I mentioned in my prepared comments, we launched the next generation. So we still have got the most revolutionary cloud native point-of-sale in the industry. But we updated it yet again, next generation and launched it at NRF and very well received. So I think awareness is still kind of a challenge. Now you and others have heard me talk about the goal by the end of the year was to have about 10 live customers. Well, we've got that. We've got about 10 because I think that sort of gets you over the hump in terms of, okay this is not a little early cycle product anymore. And the fact of the matter is we went through the holiday peak season here with 10 live customers, 30,000 store associates using our system. Every penny of revenue, if you think about the customers that run both Manhattan Active omni and point-of-sale, right, all of the wholesale business if they have it, their direct-to-consumer business is all running through Manhattan Active omni, all of their foot traffic revenue is running through point-of-sale. So every single penny of their revenue is running through the Manhattan solutions. 30,000 associates and right around 1,500 more now, but right around 1,500 stores live on point-of-sale through the peak season. And transaction volumes that are substantial, let's just call it that and certainly exceed any other cloud-native point-of-sale system out there. So feel really good about kind of where we are with the product. We've noted, so a long answer here, but we noted some of the wins we've had against best-of-breed point-of-sale companies, head-to-head with no other solutions for Manhattan and no previous experience with Manhattan. So clearly, we can go head-to-head. And now, I mean, if there was ever any question about scalability and so forth, we sailed through Q4 with, again 30,000, 1,500 stores, very high transaction volume. So feel like we're there. We just got to beat the drum, get the word out.

Mark Schappel

Analyst

That's helpful. Thanks. And then shifting gears a little bit here. With respect to your sales motion, could you just give us a sense of what percentage of bookings were cross-sell upsell during the quarter or actually during the year?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

I think, let's see, we're right around – give me a percentage here and there, but we were just under 30% for the quarter, and I think for the year we are right in the 26%, 27%.

Mark Schappel

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you. That's all for me.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Mark.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Matt Pfau with William Blair. Please proceed.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Hey. Great. Thanks and nice quarter guys. I wanted to ask on the Shopify partnership. Is that just a product integration partnership? Or is there a go-to-market motion there as well with them?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes, both. I mean, as is, obviously, we've announced the partnership as is customary with us, and I think Shopify too. We're going to make sure that we've got all of the technical aspects of product integration, end-to-end integration and process flows completely ironed out before we do anything more. But now it's – at the moment, it is, we're working on the certified integration. We've got joint clients that are in active implementation, we expect to be live in Q2.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Got it. Great. And then I wanted to ask on the margins. I understand that – I think the margin – slight margin decline, operating margin decline you're guiding for in 2024 is effectively all driven by revenue mix, with the runoff of maintenance and license. As we think like longer term, about the cloud gross margin, which you don't break out specifically, but is that still ramping? Is there still upside to that as you scale? How do we think about that?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes. Yes, there is. I mean, we're effectively continuing to increase operating margins if you take out the drag, and we still think there's scale opportunity in client operations and up and down the P&L, frankly.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks guys.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Thank you, Matt.

Operator

Operator

And our final question comes from Blair Abernethy with Rosenblatt Securities. Please proceed.

Blair Abernethy

Analyst

Thanks very much and nice quarter, guys. Dennis, just wondering on the professional services side of the business. If you look at your overall hiring, your total employee headcount was up around 10% in the year. But your professional services revenues were up around 24%. Can you just help reconcile sort of capacity in that professional services business and pricing in the market, how that performed in 2023 and sort of what you're looking at for 2024?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Well, Eddie here. Just a couple of points. I mean, obviously, we have seen a little bit, not a ton, but we have passed on a little bit of wage inflation and so forth for that customer. So you've seen hourly rates tick up a little bit. But most of the leverage comes from the efficiency of the organization, for sure, particularly as we continue to focus on the center of excellence that I talked about, the training and the onboarding of the new resources. Now the other thing that I mentioned, we had forecasted a little bit higher headcount acquisition in 2023 than we needed because attrition was lower than we expected, that helps efficiency for sure.

Blair Abernethy

Analyst

Okay. Great. And is there – with the Shopify relationship, will that also drive some professional services, I guess, it would if larger customers adopt your solution?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes. Sure. Sure. Yes. No doubt it will. Now part of our objective there, just to be clear, is to take out any of base integration work that's needed to be done. Between us, we'll carry that cost. So the idea is to speed up implementations, reduce the total cost of ownership and so forth. But nonetheless, there's still professional services fees associated with implementing that joint solution.

Blair Abernethy

Analyst

Okay. Great. Great. And then my next question was just really around – just maybe a little more color on the guidance, the revenue guidance for fiscal 2024. So 10% on the top line, did 21% in 2023, did 15% in 2022 and is there – I just want to get your sense of sort of how you came to your 2024 revenue view?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Well, we're – our revenue growth guidance coming into 2024 is roughly the same as it was coming into 2023, slightly higher actually.

Blair Abernethy

Analyst

Okay. Is the environment feeling about the same as 2023 at the end of last year?

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Yes, in the same ballpark. Obviously, there's a few things going on around the world that are happening now that weren't happening at the beginning of 2023. 2024 is an election year, et cetera, et cetera. So the things that you know about. But aside from those things, everything feels about the same.

Blair Abernethy

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks very much.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Our pleasure, Blair. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Eddie for closing remarks.

Eddie Capel

Analyst

Okay. Terrific, Sherry. Well, thanks, everybody, for attending today. Again, we're pleased with 2023. Looking forward to a fabulous 2024, and we look forward to updating you on the Q1 results in about 90 days. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.