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Main Street Capital Corporation (MAIN)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 1, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Main Street Capital Corporation Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mark Roberson, Investor Relations for Dennard Lascar. Thank you. You may begin.

Mark Roberson

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Main Street Capital Corporation's fourth quarter 2018 earnings conference call. Joining me on the call today our CEO, Dwayne Hyzak; President and Chief Investment Officer, David Magdol; and Chief Financial Officer, Brent Smith. Main Street issued a press release yesterday afternoon, that details the company's fourth quarter financial and operating results. This document is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at mainstcapital.com. A replay of today's call will be available beginning an hour, after the completion of the call and will remain available until March 8. Information on how to access the replay was included in yesterday's release. We also advise you that this conference call is being broadcast live through the Internet and can be accessed on the company's home page. Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, March 1, 2019. And therefore, you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Today's call will contain forward-looking statements. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may or similar expressions. These statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions and projections as of the date of this call, and there are no guarantees of future performance. Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements as a result of risks, uncertainties and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the company's website or at sec.gov. Main Street assumes no obligation to update any of these statements, unless required by law. During today's call, management will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including distributable net investment income. Please refer to yesterday's press release for a reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third-party sources and has not been independently verified. And now I'll turn the call over to Dwayne.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Thanks, Mark, and thank you all for joining us today. Joining me for our call today, with prepared comments are David Magdol, our President and Chief Investment Officer; and Brent Smith, our CFO. Also joining us for the Q&A portion of our call are Vince Foster, our Executive Chairman; and Nick Meserve, our Managing Director and Head of our Middle Market Investment Group. On today's call, I will start by providing a recap of our overall performance in 2018 and in the fourth quarter. Commenting on the performance of our investment portfolio, discussing our recent dividend announcements, and a few other recent developments, and I will conclude by commenting on our investment pipeline. Following my comments, David and Brent will provide additional comments on our financial results, recent originations and exits, our current liquidity position and certain key portfolio stats, after which, we'll be happy to take your questions. We are very pleased with our full-year and fourth quarter operating results, periods during which we again increased our total investment income and our distributable net investment income, our DNII per share, compared to the same periods in the prior year and for the fourth quarter on a sequential basis over the third quarter. We also generated an increase in our net asset value per share for the full year in 2018, maintaining our favorable historical track record of consistently generating annual growth in our regular monthly dividends, DNII and net asset value per share. As a result of this positive performance, we generated DNII per share that exceeded the regular monthly dividends paid during the fourth quarter and for the full-year by approximately 20%. We also closed the year with continued favorable investment activities in the lower middle market, which continues to be our primary area of focus, allowing us…

David Magdol

Analyst

Thanks, Dwayne. And good morning everyone. We're pleased to report a strong fourth quarter, another year during which we grew our total investment income and distributable net investment income, for DNII both in total and on a per share basis. We also continue to achieve our important goal of generating DNII in excess of our monthly dividends. As a result of our core strategy in the lower middle market to focus on both debt and equity investments, during 2018, we're able to generate approximately $14 million of net realized gains in this segment of our business and also grow our net asset value per share for the year. Our full-year 2018 operating results provide a return on equity or ROE of 11.7%, results that are at the low-end of our long-term goal of producing an ROE in the low to mid-teens for our shareholders. Our ROE in 2018 was negatively impacted by the significant unrealized appreciation in the fourth quarter in our middle market and private loan portfolios, partially due to the impact of changes in market interest rate spreads. Looking forward, we continue to be confident in our ability to generate an ROE in the low-to-mid teens. We believe that our long-term results, illustrate the significant benefits of our lower-middle market investment strategy, which combined with our efficient operating structure, other complementary debt investment strategies and our assets management activities, continue to provide a value proposition that differentiates Main Street from other yield-oriented investment options. This has been demonstrated to our consistent ability to generate premium total returns for our shareholders through growth in our dividends per share, our increased net asset value per share and our stock price appreciation. The year-end provides a good opportunity to look back at our history and recap the benefits of our unique…

Brent Smith

Analyst

Thanks David. We are pleased to report that our total investment income increased by 6% for the fourth quarter over the same period in 2017 to a total of $59.3 million, primarily driven by an increase in interest income of $2.3 million and an increase in dividend income of $0.9 million. Our total investment income includes a decrease of $1.6 million related to lower levels of accelerated income for certain debt investments and a decrease of $2.7 million related to non-recurring interest income, when compared to the same period in 2017. The fourth quarter of 2018 operating expenses excluding non-cash share-based compensation expense, decreased by $0.9 million over the fourth quarter of the prior year to a total of $14.9 million. The decrease was primarily related to a $2.8 million decrease in compensation expense, partially offset by a $1.9 million increase in interest expense. The decrease in compensation expense was primarily due to $1.9 million in non-recurring expense reductions or benefits to income, as well as lower overall incentive compensation accruals in the fourth quarter. The non-recurring reductions; included the conversion of $1.5 million of cash bonus into a non-cash restricted stock grant and a $0.4 million reduction in compensation expense relating to the decrease in fair value of our deferred compensation plan assets. The ratio of our total operating expenses, excluding interest expense, as a percentage of our average total assets was 1.4% for the full year 2018 compared to 1.6% in 2017. The combination of our unique investment strategy and leverage of our efficient operating structure, resulted in a 11% increase in distributable net investment income for the fourth quarter of 2018 to a total of $44.4 million or $0.72 per share or $0.69 per share, after excluding the non-recurring benefit related to compensation expense, which exceeded our…

Operator

Operator

Great, thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question here is from Robert Dodd from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

On the market just wondering, can you give us any color, because trying to think you characterize the lower to the middle-market pipeline is average, but the private loan is above average. And there were any dynamics going on in terms of, particularly on the lower-middle market in the small business side, that's driving people to be less eager to sell a stake in the business at this point?

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

No, Robert, I would say, it's more just the fact that we had a very robust amount of activity in the fourth quarter and all of 2018 and we've already had a couple of closings in Q1. So it's more just a timing issue than a change in the marketplace. Our view is that we continue to find that our value proposition, both in terms of structuring flexibility and being a real partners to the management teams of these companies, continues to have a very good place in the market. So there's nothing other than just where we are and executing on the pipeline as opposed to there being something that changed.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then kind of related follow-up. On the first time, I think that I can recall, your average position on the lower-middle-market side, the average equity, the stake has hit 40%. If we go back a few years, it tended to be more in the low '30s, it's definitely been trending up. Is that an appetite from the lower-middle market business owner to sell more or has it been obviously your equity positions on the lower-middle-market side, a large part of how you generate the higher than average ROE long-term. So is it been a decision to increase the size of the equity position to try and manage the ROE by you or is it just opportunistic from this sell?

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Yeah, I would say, it's more just, it comes down to the types of deals that we've seen recently. I think, over the last couple of years, we have had an appetite or willingness to take larger equity positions and the key for us is just making sure that the - either the former owner, or more importantly the operator manager of that business that he or she has a significant stake in the game. What you've seen in some of the more recent transactions as well, they are increasing their equity stake. They're starting with something less than 100%. So they just don't have as much equity to roll-over into the new transaction and that results in us a lot - having a larger ownership position, as a result of that transaction, but we continue to believe that the types of transactions, we're executing are very consistent with what we've done in the past. It's just that the person as our partner doesn't own a 100% of the company prior to us transacting with them.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Got it, thanks. And just one housekeeping one for Brent. On the NOI guidance, I mean, would we expect that the stock comp per share to still average kind of $0.04 a quarter going forward. Obviously, you gave a little bit color about some things that changed in the fourth quarter. So, is that kind of the right kind of ballpark?

Brent Smith

Analyst

Yeah, I think $0.04 is a good number. I mean, I think technically the number is three-point something cents, but typically rounds up to $0.04.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Thank you, Robert.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Tim Hayes from B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Tim Hayes

Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone and thank you for taking my questions. Just following up on the growth question there. I just want to clarify, it sounds like you expect continued growth in the lower-middle market portfolio and that the downgrade so to speak in your outlook from above average to just average reflects a more near-term view. So do you think, the lower-middle market portfolio, growth there could outpace last year or do you expect it to moderate a little bit?

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

What I would say, the last year, as I think, we said in our comments was our best year ever. So when we look at the marketplace, part of the pipeline is what I said earlier, in response to Robert's question, just a timing issue as opposed to something changing. We do expect that the lower-middle market will continue to be our primary focus and we do expect to grow it. If you were to look at our 2019 budget, it would not be at the 2018 level just because that was such a robust year with being our best year on record, but we absolutely expect it to grow and - the level of growth there will just be dictated by the attractiveness of the opportunities that we see.

Tim Hayes

Analyst

Understood, thank you for the color there. Second question, how much of the unrealized depreciation of the middle market and private loan portfolios was attributable to market volatility and spread volatility. And I guess broker quotes versus company specific credit. And how much of that market related weakness do you believe has been recovered so far in the first quarter?

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Yeah, I would say that when we look at that type of question because we're in the middle of the quarter. It's always tough to try and kind of split it or separate it between the two with any precision. Our best estimate would be that if you look at the depreciation we took in the fourth quarter, it would be roughly 50-50 between market related purely and then combination of marketing credit. When you look at the recovery in the first quarter, we do think that market spreads have improved significantly. So, a significant portion of the market-related fees only. We do expect it to recover in Q1. When you look at the credit specific piece, it will come down to how those individual companies or those credits end-up working through the issues that they've had on their individual case.

Tim Hayes

Analyst

Got it. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. And then my last question just noticed you placed another investment on non-accrual, haven't been able to dig into that without the K-out, can you just give a little bit more context around which company that is? What's going on there and the risk rating it held at the end of 3Q?

Brent Smith

Analyst

Yeah, the new non-accrual was MH Corbin, which is a lower-middle market investment. So there has been certain, specific performance issues at the company and we are currently actually working on a resolution related that company. I think, we expect that to occur in the near-term. So hopefully that will be coming-off non-accrual, if not by the end of the first quarter shortly thereafter.

Tim Hayes

Analyst

I appreciate the comments there.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Thank you, Tim.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our question here is from Christopher Testa from National Securities Corporation. Please go ahead.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. Obviously lower-middle market, you guys had a record year. Just wondering, as you guys have grown in size pretty substantially over the last several years. If you're just starting to get approached by a larger-sized borrowers. And if you think, that there is also a pretty significant opportunity set there for Main Street?

David Magdol

Analyst

Yeah so. This is David Magdol. We do see some more attractions especially as we're entering the private loan market, more with some opportunities to increase our size on transaction flow, but we're still very much focused on where we've been and we've made good investments historically. We stated our range of $3 million to $20 million EBITDA. The substantial portion of our deals are really done in the $5 million to $12 million range and we think there's a lots of growth to continue to focus in that area. There's no question, if you look at the average size of our investments. One is that we are doing for four, five, seven years ago that are still on our balance sheet or smaller than some of the investments we're doing today. But there's no question, it's a very attractive market for us out there and we can continue to grow, where we have been focusing going forward.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Got it, okay. And kind of sticking with that theme, I know that you have a very small joint venture with Capital Southwest. Just wondering if you guys think, it makes sense to potentially use the 30% basket more either through up-sizing that JV or entering into another one to potentially take advantage of market dislocation or the faster one that occurs like it did last quarter.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Yeah, I would say that in specific reference to that joint venture, I think we've been very happy with the way it's performed and we think, it continues to have a very positive outlook, as we look forward at continuing to maintain and potentially grow that with Capital Southwest. As you've heard us, reference in prior quarters, I think, we continue to look for opportunities to grow our business. One of the ways we're looking to grow is the asset management side of our business that continues to be a very big focus area for us and we will continue to look for opportunities there. So when we look at that, it is something that we would find very attractive and think it could be a great place, if there is a market dislocation to have another pool of capital that we did deploy in that type of situation.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Got it. And last one for me. Just wondering from your lower-middle market book to the middle market book and private loan book, if there is any difference in the kind of the biggest concerns from the borrowers within each of those books, whether it's a slowing economy or trade war, I'm just wondering if there is a difference in the concerns expressed by those borrowers or if you guys yourselves have different concerns for most of the companies that are in each of those segments.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Yeah, I would say based upon what we hear from the companies, we don't see really material or big differences between the different groups. I think, obviously when you look at the middle market, I think, we've had some more retail exposure and a couple of names there that just like you've seen across the retail industry as a whole - have underperformed, but that's just more of an individual company or industry as opposed to something broader base that we're hearing across the different portfolio companies.

Christopher Testa

Analyst

Got it, okay. That's all from me. Thanks for your time today.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

Thank you, Chris.

Operator

Operator

Great, thank you. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back to management for any closing comments.

Dwayne Hyzak

Analyst

We thank you everyone for joining us today. Thank you very much for the questions and we'll look forward to talking to everyone again in a couple of months.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you again for your participation.