Tony Hung
Analyst · China Renaissance
So Jacky, on your first 2 questions. First, with regards to the BMPL, our Maiya product. I think, obviously, we started in the first quarter, and there is a big difference between what this product does and what we've done traditionally, not the least of which, of course, is that it's a 0% interest product to the customers. And we collect the fee from the merchant. Now when we created this product and we set out on these goals, we had a few principles in mind that this is not going to be, in any way, like a traditional consumer finance, and it would not be structured that way. And in turn, it will require a new type of funding model. But that said, we have to say that all these things right now are very early. Now we were able to achieve CNY 60 million in terms of GMV in the first quarter, which was primarily driven by online and online transactions. In the second quarter, we can see that the off-line has been growing very, very rapidly. And we believe that most of the growth in the future that we can see is probably likely going to come from off line as opposed to online That said, we're hesitant to say a very specific percentage right now or breakdown because it is early, it is a little bit unstable. Now similarly, for the asset quality, it's probably too early to say. That said, based on what we can see right now, it's clear that the customer quality is far better than what we've seen before. And in fact, it's better by a substantial level, and it's definitely much lower. Our goal here is to try to keep the losses down to, say, under 1% or so. Now also, I'd like to emphasize that for the BMPL, this is very, very early on in terms of the model. So when it comes to the definitive model growth and otherwise, it's still early. But what we can see, and it depends on the sector or the industry. If, for example, we offer a 3-month product, charging 4% is no problem at all. Longer term, charging a higher percent wouldn't be too much of a problem. Now that said, the revenue model and exact percentage will no doubt depend on the sector. But I would like to hold up until later before giving everyone more details on the numbers and otherwise, essentially, the things that you would need to build a financial model. So that's on the BMPL product. Now on the regulation, we have to emphasize that our loan facilitation model was developed in a very stable manner under the regulators have seen. Within a regulatory framework that is actually fairly mature. So we're very confident in our model. What we do at the core is we give the banks a few services, including customer acquisition service and the ability to pay customers. The banks then provide the customers with your traditional financial service. So we have not provided credit scoring services, and we have not provided credit services. So hence, while we'll have to see how things develop on the regulators on the credit scoring and the credit bureau front, overall, we're definitely very, very positive on the outlook on the regulatory side.