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LiveOne, Inc. (LVO)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 12, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to the LiveXLive Media, Inc., Q1 Fiscal 2022 Financial Results and Business Update Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mike Quartieri, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Michael Quartieri

Analyst

Thank you, Danial. Good afternoon and welcome to LiveXLive Media’s business update and financial results conference call for the company's first quarter ended June 30, 2021. Presenting on today's call are Rob Ellin, CEO and Chairman; Dermot McCormack, President; and myself, Mike Quartieri, the company's Chief Financial Officer. I would like to remind you that some of the statements made on today's call are forward-looking and are based on current expectations, forecasts, and assumptions that involve various risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to statements regarding the future performance of the company, including expected future financial results and expected future growth of the business. Actual results may differ materially from those discussed on this call for a variety of reasons. Please refer to the company's filings with the SEC for information about factors which could cause the company’s actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements, including those described in its Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2021 and subsequent SEC filings. You will find reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures discussed today in the company’s earnings release, which is posted on its Investor Relations website at ir.livexlive.com, and the company encourages you to periodically visit its IR website for important content. The following discussion including responses to your questions contains time sensitive information reflects management's view as of the date of this call August 12th. And except as required by law the company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise this information after the date of this call. I like to highlight to investors that this call is being recorded. The company is making it available to investors and the media via webcast and a replay will be available on its website in the Investor Relations section shortly following the conclusion of the call. Additionally, it is the property of the company and any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of the call or the webcast in any form without the company's expressed written consent is strictly prohibited. Now let me turn the call over to LiveXLive CEO, Rob Ellin.

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us today for fiscal 2022 first quarter business update. We continue to focus on the long-term objective of building and owning sustainable valuable franchises, IP and transformative technologies. Three years ago we took the company public to $7 million in revenues. I'm proud to say my team has delivered for the 13th straight quarter record revenues of $38.8 million by far the biggest quarter in history. Amazingly, we now have six TAMs each with multi-billion dollar upsides and are all growing together a perfect storm. We are building a brand recognition in using music subscription live events, live streams, OTT, merchandise both digital and hoard and podcasts to drive our flywheel. Today LiveXLive is grown and evolved into the leading talent-first platform focused on their super talents. Almost $39 million in revenues with none of our live events other than social ones, we had to push back our main event Spring Awakening due to COVID to October as well as our 40 to 50 live events and we're seeing telltale signs that this is starting to open up. As we're getting close to the end of COVID and the opening of events we were able to use our first live event to prove a flywheel. Our first in-person and global live screening pay per view event post-COVID-19 social gloves battle platforms cemented our flywheels a true zygotes of modern media fan interaction. Listen watch attend engage and transact. Social Gloves reached over 3.5 billion engagements and it continues to grow by the day. LiveXLive social media platforms garnered a triple digit year-over-year increase with total engagements over 671% and average engagement's post up 1493%. Social Gloves is a landmark 136,000 pay per views, that's equivalent to selling out Madison…

Dermot McCormack

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. And I'd like to thank you for your continued leadership and congratulate the team on what has been establish for. I would say that this quarter we brought home the vision of - I joined live LiveXLive. We enhance our flywheel and we brought it to life with groundbreaking live events. You're building a portfolio of brands that all complement each other with synergies and originals not unlike what I saw in the early days of managing Viacom's digital portfolio. We are on a path to become a true media conglomerate, built for realities and the opportunities that exist in today's ever changing landscape. One of the things I'm most excited about is the evolution of our original content IP and production capabilities. We are doubling down on our own proprietary events and franchises specifically and in this quarter we invested $15.5 million in developing and implementing new IP and content which drove revenues in the current quarter and will contribute to future revenues. Over the past year we have launched shows that we believe have the chance to become valuable franchises going forward including Self Made a new online talent competition an area this month we launched a Self-Made podcast edition and audio competition to find the next big podcast star for PodcastOne. The competition will be driven by fans and PodcastOne's panel of judges as they listen to see who will take the top prize a podcasting contract with PodcastOne and a total package worth over $100,000 including promotion across the network. We've also launched the LockDown Awards. Our celebration of live music and coming this fall we have a new edition called the Breakout Awards. We've also brought the world of The Snubbys a tongue in cheek look at the artists actors and nominees…

Michael Quartieri

Analyst

Thanks, Dermot. Let me spend a few minutes to provide a brief overview of our fiscal 2022 Q1 results. Consolidated revenue was a record $38.8 million, up 269% year-over-year from $10.5 million in Q1 prior year. This increase in revenue is due to our successful acquisitions of PodcastOne and CPS, coupled with increases in pay per view and sponsorship revenue related to the Social Gloves pay per view event, as well as our revenue associated with the production of the event. We ended Q1 with 1.162 million paid subscribers. Please note that included in the total number as of June 30, are certain subscribers which are subject to a contractual dispute, of which we are currently not recognizing revenue. This is the first quarter since the dispute arose in Q2 last year that our subscription revenue is up on a year-over-year basis. The acquisitions of PodcastOne and CPS were accretive to our operating results, enhanced our working capital position and provided diversification to our revenue base. In Q1, our revenue was comprised of 23% subscription and 77% advertising, sponsorship, merchandising, pay per view, ticketing and events, compared to 84% subscription and 16% in sponsorship, licensing, advertising, and pay per view tickets over our prior year. Contribution margin in the quarter was a record $7.8 million, up 175% year-over-year from $2.8 million. The year-over-year improvement was driven by our live event and related sponsorship revenue and the additions of PodcastOne and CPS, which resulted in a $5.7 million increase year-over-year. This improvement was partially offset by a $700,000 charge for additional music royalty as a result of a multi-year audit by one of the labels. Adjusted operating loss in Q1 was $1.75 million, compared to $55,000 in prior year. Note, the prior year quarter includes the benefit of various cost saving…

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Yes, so thank you guys and obviously a terrific quarter but one more to come and really the excitement that Dermot was articulating with the record labels. We extended our contracts with Sony Records. Our balance sheet now and the strength that it is - the labels it's now time to expand globally. It's now time to expand other car companies. We’re now in over 80 cars and it's time to do more white label type deals like Tesla. This is a really exciting time for the company. We're looking forward to our live events really starting to take off in October. And you see you know as I said over 100 live events, there's really you know a special time for us as we lost substantial revenues for almost 18 months now as we come back to adding that live music. So I want to thank everyone. I want to thank everyone for being supportive and sticking with this company through COVID. And I'm really proud of my team and my management and really everyone all the way down the line of what they've accomplished and what they built and to think we've gone from you know a $7 million company to now doing $38 million in a quarter is really exciting. So thank you everyone. Thank you everyone, I look forward to questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Barry Sine of Spartan Capital Securities. Please go ahead.

Barry Sine

Analyst

Question on Social Gloves so presumably that drove the big surge in a lot of the big surge of revenue that we saw. If you can give us a little bit more breakdown on how that, that revenue occurred. And then I guess we'll see some of this in the Q later on. But what the costs are they go with an event like that. And the reason I ask you've just reiterated that you have the fall event I guess it would be called Self Made knockout? And then you also have Spring Awakening Equinox. If we look at Social Gloves we analyze that what you just reported with those upcoming events be comparable are we looking at two more major events coming later on in the fiscal year that would be similar to what you just reported.

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Yes, so Spring Awakening has always been you know reacts, your trophy property, right. And does anywhere from $6 million to $10 million revenues, and we've just expanded it and brought back into the city of Chicago, right. So fully expect it there. And then we've already announced the second one. So the second one will be a female version of Social Gloves and so far we've seen the traction is absolutely spectacular, very similar reaction if not stronger reaction to the audience and the potential buyers of this. And then you know fully expect they're going to be many more social events like this, right. And boxing is only one component of it. What we built here is right we built here as we built a franchise. And as we go out now - will max actually own the IP. And this will be IP of LiveXLive. So we couldn’t be more excited about it, and we expect it to be extremely profitable. And a lot of the hard work was done in the first event.

Barry Sine

Analyst

And if you could help us understand, looking at the consolidated numbers how much of that was driven by Social Gloves, how what's the profitability in an event like that. And again the reason I ask is so I can have some basis to forecast the upcoming events that you have?

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Yes, so we’re not breaking down the exact numbers, but I would say that you can kind of adopt, right, and Mike if you want to jump in here, yes we said it’s a 136,000 tickets, assume it’s around $50 of ticket, right, add some sponsorship, add some money from Hard Rock, and you could basically come to you know very close to the numbers and really start thinking about the success of this event likely success with the IP is going, going forward right. And how much of that hard work was done already in building the, first one because the production came up actually spectacular and yes so we're really excited for the next one. Do you want to add anything to that Mike?

Michael Quartieri

Analyst

Yes, I think one of the things just to kind of point on to - especially like this one you want to get back to the profitability of it and we want to make sure we're very careful of not commenting on any specific items. But one of the things we wanted to make sure that was very important to this is that it proved out the capabilities of our team and of our tech stack. So when Rob says this thing went off flawlessly if you can imagine 136,000 tickets being sold. The vast majority and I mean the very vast majority of those all took place probably within the last eight hours before that event took place with a good portion of that taking place within the last couple of hours. So the fact that we were able to handle that volume flawlessly is a testament to the team and also to the investment that we made in that tech stack as part of this event. And so therefore I think it's a little unfair to comment on profitability on this one item when we were using it to really prove out the capabilities of the team and the process itself.

Barry Sine

Analyst

Okay. And I guess there'll be a little more visibility when the Q comes out you'll do a little break out there as well.

Michael Quartieri

Analyst

There'll be some. Yes.

Barry Sine

Analyst

Okay all right. That's my question. I don't want to hug the call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Brian Kinstlinger from Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Clearly the revenue is fantastic with Social Gloves and I agree it was groundbreaking but I guess given the low gross margin and the adjusted EBITDA loss which I don't think I would have expected with $38 million of revenue? And what is, the lessons learnt that you can take away so that you become profitable when these events happen in the future and you put up these high water mark revenue numbers? And what did drive that gross margin to be maybe lower than it looks like the street would have thought?

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Mike, you want to take that?

Michael Quartieri

Analyst

Yes well, let me kind of talk through kind of and maybe what I'll do is I'll talk a bit on a year-over-year basis and maybe look at it also quarter sequential, from just a consolidated overall operating income perspective. So for the year, just when we look back at this quarter, we overcame a couple of things. So one, you have the addition of CPS and PodcastOne, the combination of those results are about $1 million in negative operating loss. And that's really kind of geared towards the seasonal nature of their business with and - plus the investments that we've been making as we've commented before about $2.2 million in content and marketing on top of that, to really drive the back half of the year and into the future into fiscal 2023, when it comes to those units. CPS especially given it’s a retailer. There's a huge seasonal impact to their results. And so you expect operating loss in what would be this Q1 and Q2 with a huge profit margin to come through in Q3, which is the calendar year end which is the holiday sales period. In addition, we had the royalty audit, which hit us for about $700,000, which was completely unexpected. And we had to come over the year-over-year $1.3 million in austerity measures that we implemented last year, which was really primarily around 50% pay cuts taken by all employees. And those 50% pay cuts weren't in effect during this quarter. So there is some headwind versus year-over-year. And then we picked up some just as a result of the way the operations are from a CPS and PodcastOne perspective. But if you look at that, that really kind of get you back to what would have been in my eyes and I don't want to do performers in math for a whole lot of people to get in myself with a FD Reg issue. But you could get back to a more reasonable same-store model which would have gave you profitability well north of $3 plus million.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Okay and then my only follow-up is, the $2.2 million in content and marketing spend. Sounds like those are expenses that ran through the P&L in the first quarter. Are those recurring and you'll have $2 million plus of quarterly increased expenses or maybe what you would thought at the beginning of the year just how did that play out? Thank you.

Michael Quartieri

Analyst

I would tell you that, that's a slight increase quarter sequential in Q1. We had about $1.2 million of those expenses. And remember and this is no different than any other media company at this point in time. Viacom if you listen to their earnings same similar story with Comcast the world's start to reopen back up and people are investing back in content. And that's why we want to make sure that where they’re front in line to be able to maintain the growth of this company accordingly. And I think that's part of the reason for - around the whole content strategy is why we wanted to make sure that Dermot joined this call. So Dermot the person who's responsible for all of our content was able to give his perspectives on it.

Dermot McCormack

Analyst

And Mike - let me just jump in on the question - the questioner which is, from a background of working at places like the VMAs and huge tadpoles and corporations that drive year around business. When you do an inaugural event especially when no one in the world has ever done before nobody has ever even attempted this on a level we done a lot. And you asked what did we learnt, we learnt - as a production efficiencies and marketing. We will apply next and why we lead the way now is because we're the first ones to do those learnings. So this was a lot about learnings and we're going to apply them in key areas as we go forward.

Brian Kinstlinger

Analyst

Great thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from [Jeremy Lieu] of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So I have one question and one follow-up. First question from your vantage point what percentage of festivals are expected to return to - having a live event in 2021 and 2022 versus 2019?

Robert Ellin

Analyst

I mean we can't - we can't. It's a very tricky question obviously the variant is kicking back in right and is scary. AEG just came out with today that you must be vaccinated to go in. But the exciting part is in the United States is half the country's been vaccinated and this could be way higher soon right. So I don't think they’re going to shut them down. I think very few are going to get shut down. I think they're just going to put - implement rules in place that is going to protect people and make it a safer environment. And so we don't see a lot of telltale signs. In fact we're on the phone with leading government people on Chicago and they have no intentions of shutting the current events down in Chicago. And as you know Lollapalooza just happen which is the biggest event in Chicago. So we're pretty excited about it. There are going to be some costs that occur with COVID and as you know we pushed Spring Awakening to October. So you're going to have to be smart about it and you’re going to have to handle it in a unique way, but I couldn’t tell you exactly what percentage I don’t think many in the United States are going to get shutdown.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay thanks and then Rob you were early in understanding that consumer would rebundle the content rather than limit themselves to one to three [SPOD] services. So what are the implications of this rebundling for LiveXLive?

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Well as you know we hired JPMorgan as our bankers to explore all options for the company. There has been a lot of people circling around right. We have a lot of interesting TAMs within this company. You have six of them that any one of them could be a potential candidate to be attempted to acquire the whole business, one of the divisions to spinout a division right. So I think we're right in the center of the storm. I think my team has just done a brilliant job of surviving and building right to where Live is coming back. And I just think Live is going to really enhance that the flywheel and give us the opportunity to prove just like sports did 30 years ago it's really not that we're that smart. We just - started this early and built it around curation right. When you build around curation and if you got - everyone had an opportunity to watch what we did. Social Gloves and watch what we've done at Rock in Rio for years. It's a best production in the world right. And when you're doing that everybody in content is looking for content. Our average cost for content is still under $20,000 an hour. Right at that cost per hour we’re really compelling partner as a - to distribute our content as you can see by our new Facebook deals right two of them. One Facebook to stream all of our pay per view events, number two for Facebook to take on our podcasts as they build their audio platform. So they announced our podcast across Samsung, but we had to keep growing at 294 million number right to many platforms around the globe.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, thanks for taking my questions.

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

It seems that there are no further questions. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Rob Ellin, CEO and Chairman for closing remarks.

Robert Ellin

Analyst

Thank you everyone. Just as a closing remark my history when I started out [indiscernible] as you broke $100 million in revenues you started to get very different institutional holdings. You got a lot of interest around the company. We didn't plan to sell it right at that time and we sold it to Barry Diller as InterActiveCorp. The same thing with digital terminal with Intuit as you break $100 million in revenues. It's now trading at close to $8 billion valuation. Feel the same thing here. The momentum is growing. We have a world-class team we have world class management team. We have world class board of professionals that have built tens of billions of dollars of companies. This is the most exciting company I had ever been involved in. It's also the most fun company I've never been involved. I have great partners and great team here anyone saw yesterday Kris Wright who joined the Board was just named the head of all of Michael Jordan brands at Nike. We're going to keep bringing great people together. We're going to keep focused on talent first super fans. If we continue to grow that right in five years we'll be a 10 million plus subscribers and will have $1 billion plus in revenue. So thank you everyone and thank you for spending the time and appreciate everyone support.

Operator

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.