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Lightbridge Corporation (LTBR)

Q1 2012 Earnings Call· Thu, May 10, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. And welcome to the Lightbridge Corporation 2012 First Quarter Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today, questions are being taken through e-mail. If you would like to ask a question, please address your e-mail to ir@ltbridge.com. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Gary Sharpe, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead sir.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Thank you, Denise, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Lightbridge Corporation 2012 first quarter business update. Our earnings news release was distributed earlier today and that can be viewed on the Investor Relations page of the Lightbridge website at ltbridge.com. Seth Grae, our President and Chief Executive Officer will lead today’s call. In addition, the following executives will be available to answer your questions: Jim Malone, the company’s Chief Nuclear Fuel Development Officer; and Andrey Mushakov, Lightbridge Executive VP for international nuclear operations. Jim Guerra, the company’s CFO and Chief Operating Officer is traveling today, so he can’t join us. Before Seth begins, I should remind you that today’s presentation includes forward-looking statements about the company’s competitive position in product and service offerings. During the course of today’s call, words such as expect, anticipate, believe and intend will be used in our discussion of goals or events in the future. These statements are based on our current expectations and involve certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ significantly from estimates. The risks include, but are not limited to: the degree of market adoption of the company’s product and services; market competition; dependence on strategic partners; and the company’s ability to manage its business effectively in a rapidly evolving market. Certain of these and other risks are set forth in more detail in Lightbridge’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Lightbridge does not assume any obligation to update or revise any such forward-looking statements, whether as the result of new developments or otherwise. As the operator indicated, please submit your questions in writing to ir@ltbridge.com. We’ll read your questions aloud and they’ll be answered by senior management. If you’ve already submitted a question, we thank you. If not, or if you have more questions, you can submit them at any time during the prepared remarks or during the Q&A period. Now, I’ll turn the call over to Seth Grae, President and CEO of Lightbridge. Seth?

Seth Grae

Analyst

Thank you, Gary. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our 2012 first quarter conference call. Not much time has passed since our last update and conference call in late February. However there was meaningful progress to report about the development of Lightbridge’s patented next generation nuclear fuel technology. In addition, we can report renewed global interest in commercial nuclear energy that is translating into new consulting opportunities for our advisory services division. We are pursuing an aggressive research, development and demonstration schedule to make Lightbridge design fuels available to the global market as quickly as possible. During the quarter, we made tremendous progress towards fabrication of metal fuel samples for irradiation testing at the MIR research reactor in Russia, and at the Advanced Test Reactor in the United States. In particular, we secured approvals from Rosatom which is the Russian equivalent of the U.S. Department of Energy, for the proposed collaboration with Rosatom, and we began contract negotiations with the Bochvar Institute, which is a major research and development arm of the Russian fuel fabricator TVEL, relating to fabrication of our metallic fuel samples for the planned irradiation experiments in Russia and in the United States. We also continued discussions with the Dimitrovgrad test facility for preliminary planning of loop irradiations of Lightbridge’s designed metallic fuel samples in the MIR research reactor. We expect this irradiation experiment to begin in 2013 and to generate fuel performance data over the ensuing 2.5 years in a test reactor environment prototypic of operating conditions found in a commercial pressurized water reactor. The data from these tests are key to regulatory licensing of our lead test assembly demonstrations in a commercial pressurized water reactor, planned to begin in 2017. Further, irradiated samples from this loop irradiation program at the MIR…

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Thanks, Seth. We’ve grouped the call -- or the questions by subject matter and I think Jim Malone will handle the first several. Let me paraphrase the question that came in, it was, but, here is the first call -- here’s the first question. What’s the earliest date that you can realistically project, that sales of either the newly configured fuel assemblies or a thorium fuel assembly? Yes, so what is the earliest date that you can project sales of your new generation fuel assemblies or the thorium, the 30% fuel uprates variant using thorium? Jim, can you handle that please.

James Malone

Analyst

Yes, I’ll take care of that, Gary, thank you. Our current project schedule envisions the start of full-scale lead test assembly demonstration in a commercial power reactor in 2017. The lead test assemblies will need to be irradiated to full burn-up over a course of 3 18-month cycles. As a result, the lead test assembly demonstration program is expected to be completed in 2022. From my experience at Exelon, a U.S. utility would likely want to see lead test assemblies operate for at least 2 18-month cycles before placing an order for a batch reload with a fuel fabricator. For this reason, realistically speaking, the first order for a batch reload could come in around 2020 to 2021 at the earliest. At the same time, our current commercialization strategy is to enter into a commercial arrangement with one or more fuel fabricators within the next 2 to 3 years. The goal is to look for an opportunity to generate early revenue from our nuclear fuel technology, much sooner than the first order for a batch reload is placed by a utility.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

The next question for Jim is, are any of the new reactors planned or being developed in the world today able to use Lightbridge fuel assemblies?

James Malone

Analyst

Yes, Lightbridge’s metallic fuel technology can be adapted for any light-water cooled reactor including PWRs, BWRs, small modular reactors, and even heavy water reactors, as those are designed in Canada and India. Our current strategy is to develop a fuel variant for pressurized water reactors first, because this is by far the largest market segment today.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

All right. The next question for Jim, what’s the projected timeline for completion of all testing on Western reactors?

James Malone

Analyst

Well, in response to that question what I can say is that we, Lightbridge are pursuing an aggressive research development and demonstration schedule to make our products available to the global market as quickly as possible. Due to a highly regulated nature of the global nuclear power industry, the development of new nuclear technologies, especially fuel-related technologies is time consuming. Ensuring the safety of nuclear facilities and the surrounding public is a top concern for all members of the industry. And no corners will be cut when it comes to demonstrating the behavior of a new product. In addition to regulatory approvals for various testing and demonstration activities, another factor is the availability of facilities capable of performing the necessary testing on Lightbridge’s fuel. Such facilities are limited around the world and have their own time and availability schedules that must be dealt with, and they experience delays that cannot be foreseen.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Next question, what’s management doing to speed up development of the Lightbridge fuel technology? I think we’ve already answered that with Jim’s last response. Next let’s shift to questions for Andrey, that fall in Andrey Mushakov’s bailiwick. Question is, what stage is the review process of the peer reviewed article that has been mentioned on other calls?

Andrey Mushakov

Analyst

Thank you, Gary. In the fourth quarter of last year, we submitted the technical overview article for publication in a major peer review journal. In the first quarter of this year we were notified by the publication that the peer review process had been completed and that the article had been accepted for publication, no later than March 2013. Seeking a near term publication date but the final decision at this point is out of our hands. We will provide an update once we know the specific publication date when we are notified by the journal.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

All right. Next question for Andrey is, we’ve been informed that testing will commence at the Idaho National Laboratory in the Advanced Test Reactor, when modeling is complete. At what stage is the team conducting the testing currently at and when can we expect the loop irradiation test to begin?

Andrey Mushakov

Analyst

As a background, it is important to note that they’re currently planning several experiments as part of our comprehensive fuel based and qualification program. And they're generating experimental data necessary for regulatory approval for our nuclear fuel designs, the lead test assembly demonstration in a commercial pressurized water reactor. The irradiation experiment at Idaho National Laboratory is one of the 2 test reactor radiation experiments we are presently pursuing. The experiment in the Advanced Test Reactor at Idaho National Laboratory envisions irradiation of Lightbridge-designed metallic fuel samples, under specific experimental conditions, non-prototypic, they investigate certain fuel performance phenomenon. The other experiment to be conducted in the MIR research reactor in Dimitrovgrad, Russia, involve the irradiation of Lightbridge-designed metallic fuel samples in a pressurized loop and they're prototypic. Again, prototypic operating conditions of a commercial pressurized water reactor. For an update on the current status [indiscernible] the 3 irradiation experiments we’re currently pursuing. The first quarter of this year, we continued discussions with Dimitrovgrad test facility for preliminary planning of loop irradiations of our metallic fuel samples in the MIR research reactor. As mentioned earlier, these irradiations will be performed on the prototypic pressurized water reactor operating conditions and we’ll provide data necessary for regulator licensing of our lead test assemblies for demonstration on a commercial pressurized water reactor. Radiated samples from this loop irradiation program in the MIR research reactor will also be used for additional out-of-reactor tests to demonstrate the metallic fuel behavior during severe accident scenarios and provide quantitative analysis of the safety benefits of the leverage designed fuel. The loop radiation program in the MIR research reactor is expected to begin next year. Second, we also continue experiment planning and design for irradiation based on [indiscernible] metallic fuel samples in the Advanced Test Reactor at Idaho National Laboratory. In the first quarter of this year, the team was informed that due to changes in the Advanced Test Reactor availability, the pressurized loop we were planning to use for our irradiation experiment would not be available for several years. After consultation with the team members from Idaho National Laboratory and Texas A&M University, the decision was made to continue the originally proposed capsule irradiation experiment that would allow us to generate the data sooner. Capsule radiation design has commenced and is expected to be completed this calendar year. The current capsule experiment design envisions irradiating Lightbridge-designed metallic fuel samples under specific experimental conditions, again non-prototypic, to investigate certain fuel performance phenomena. We believe these changes in the Advanced Test Reactor irradiation program will have no adverse impact on our fuel development and demonstration program, as the loop irradiation testing program in the MIR research reactor will demonstrate the fuel’s performance under prototypic pressurized water reactor conditions.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Okay. Another question for Andrey. Where is the company with respect to fabricating the fuel rods for ATR, Advanced Test Reactor testing.

Andrey Mushakov

Analyst

In the first quarter of this year, we secured approvals from Rosatom for the proposed collaboration of Rosatom’s entity and we began contract negotiations with the joint sub-company AA Bochvar High-technology Research Institute of Inorganic Materials or Bochvar Institute, which is a subsidiary company of the Russian Fuel fabricator TVEL. Relating to fabrication of Lightbridge-designed metallic fuel samples where irradiation based in the MIR research reactor in Dimitrovgrad Russia, as well as the Advanced Test Reactor at Idaho National Laboratory in the United States. The scope, schedule and cost have not yet been finalized. Those contract negotiations are still ongoing. We are hopeful for contract negotiations to conclude at some point later this year.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Okay. Another question on the Part 810 license. Can the company bring any political influence to bear to advance the Part 810 license? And a related question, what is the status of that initiative?

Andrey Mushakov

Analyst

And just to make sure everyone understands, Part 810 license is a U.S. export license that we applied for back in the summer of last year, that would authorize our collaborative work with Rosatom as well as Rosatom entities in Russia. We have been informed by the U.S. Department of Energy that the only significant remaining issue is receipt by the Department of Energy of non-proliferation assurances from the Russian government. We have heard from the Russian government that these non-proliferation assurances are standard practice and have been handled pursuant to their standard protocol. We do not know the exact date but I’m confident that the assurances will be provided by Russia. And that the U.S. Department of Energy will approve the Part 810 export license application.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Okay. Before we move on to another question on the advisory services. We’ve gotten a question that came in over the Internet. It’s a little choppy so I’ll try to do my best to ask it. What are the current prospects for retrofitting existing or decommissioned I guess, Fukushima-type reactors. And I believe that would -- that what he’s trying to say is does the Lightbridge fuel work in existing or Fukushima-style reactors.

Seth Grae

Analyst

Well, this is Seth, I’ll start and then I’ll turn it over to Jim. But basically I’ll say that Unit 1 at Fukushima is an old General Electric, the boiling water-type reactor, the Mark I, then there are others of those and some more newer designs of boiling water reactors that were built over time at Fukushima as well. And those are light water reactors and as Jim mentioned earlier, our fuel could be used in all types of light water reactors, including those. So, those could be retrofitted using our fuel but let me have Jim pick it up from there, who I know worked literally on twins of those reactors.

James Malone

Analyst

Thanks, Seth. Seth’s answer is quite right and concise. The reactors at Fukushima span several series of boiling water reactor designs developed by General Electric, Hitachi and Toshiba. They can all be adapted, all of those types certainly the units at that site will probably not run again. However, any boiling water reactor can be adapted to use our fuel. The reason that we’re focusing on the pressurized water unit right now is simple, market size. The worldwide market runs about 70% pressurized water reactor and about 30% boiling water reactor. So, we’re going after the more target-rich environment if you will.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Okay, let’s move on. We’ve gotten several questions about the status of the company’s advisory services division. And let’s have Seth Grae answer those questions.

Seth Grae

Analyst

Well, I think that the 1+ years since Fukushima has given countries an opportunity to see what they could do to provide base load electricity other than nuclear power. And what they found is in many countries burn crude oil, which is very expensive and very polluting and more natural gas. Certainly nothing carbon-free that has taken over any material amount of base-load electricity generation. With Fukushima, the incident beginning in March of last year, many of the countries we were talking to about starting nuclear power programs for the first time went away one way and stopped those discussions. But now they are virtually all back as well as some others that weren’t talking to us back then. And we are in discussions with several of them, some of them fairly advanced, serious discussions about advising them on new nuclear power programs. Nothing is signed yet, nothing’s finalized, but those are progressing. We do have some people right now overseas in some countries at some of those meetings. We certainly don’t announce other countries' nuclear programs for them before they’ve issued anything publicly. But I do expect that we'll have deal flow from these clients in new countries later this year.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

Here’s another question that’s come in from the Internet. What was the result of meetings in China that were discussed at the end of our conference call in February?

Seth Grae

Analyst

We have had a series of discussions in China, including -- before that call in February, in October we presented, Jim Malone and I at a major nuclear conference in China and we were invited back to present at another major nuclear conference in China in November, which we did. At both of those meetings, and then since, we’ve been in discussions with some major Chinese nuclear entities. In particular, these are on the fuel fabrication and utility side, about potential collaboration in China. I really think -- I don't think there's much I could say beyond that at this point other than that we are continuing those discussions. One of the points of those discussions relates to a term we really only hear in China in the nuclear sector, which is kilowatts per square meter, which is that the size of the sites for nuclear reactors in many places in China are small, which is little bit counter-intuitive, but they want the sites near the major cities so there’s not a lot of line loss getting the electricity from the reactors to the cities. They want their reactors to be cooled by water so they are on rivers, or on the seas or the front of the site is bounded, and on the back of the site is generally bounded by the highway or railroad line and then off to the left and right there is some other industrial facilities. The sites are not big. And if you use a 30% power uprate fuel Lightbridge is designing, and you can build 3 reactors instead of 4 and get the power of 4 reactors on a site that can only hold 3, that has meaning. And in a country looking to build many 10s of reactors, if not much more than that, that’s quite significant. So we are in discussions about fuel fabrication, we are in discussions about uprates to existing reactors, we are in discussions about uprate designs for new reactors, these are at a very preliminary stage, but with the right entities, with the right people. Jim Malone’s been really the key person in these discussions and in China, Jim, I'll just ask if there’s anything else you want to add to that.

James Malone

Analyst

No, I think it’s a good answer, Seth and we -- obviously we are working pretty hard to strengthen our contacts with the Chinese nuclear industry, and it’s working. I’m very pleased with the reception that we’ve received so far and the expressed interest in our nuclear fuel product, especially as you put it, on the basis of kilowatts per square meter. That is a big deal to them.

Seth Grae

Analyst

Yes, I’ll just say one other thing which is I think is an effect of Fukushima. And this is my own impression, there’s certainly nothing official in China that’s been announced along these lines. But, my impression is that China has paused a little bit to take a very serious safety look at how they are deploying nuclear and has now ended that pause and is going forward and they are handling it well. And that one of the, I don’t know if it’s a change, but maybe more of a continuation that prevents a change is that the entities that are driving nuclear power in China, particularly the utilities that already operate nuclear reactors, will be the utilities to take nuclear power forward. The companies that fabricate fuel to make reactor fuel will be the companies who do that in the future. I don’t think you’ll see much of any new entry. I think that part of the safety focus in China is to stick with the entities and the people that are doing it, that have the expertise and have them grow. So in that sense I think we’re talking to the right people, if what I’m saying pans out to be true, and from what I’m seeing I think it will. Whereas before Fukushima, I think there was much more of a notion of potential new entry perhaps by existing Chinese entities that are in energy but not in nuclear, entering in a big way. And I think that the way they will enter, is more as investors in nuclear in China, and not as new nuclear operators. Gary, next question.

Gary Sharpe

Analyst

With that, Seth, we’ve -- as far as I can tell, we’ve come to the end of questions from the Internet. I’ll give you one more chance to submit, but I see nothing in the queue now. So if you do want to submit additional questions, send them to ir@ltbridge.com. There’s nothing further. So with that Seth, do you want to close?

Seth Grae

Analyst

Well, thank you very much. We appreciate your joining the call. We appreciate sending questions. We look forward to speaking with you on next quarter’s call and putting out news in the interim.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.