Segre Belamant
Analyst · Oberon Asset Management
Once again, that's a very good question. I think we did mention that EasyPay, in a way, I think, we're going to break the business down into a number of elements and reconstruct it in a different way. Now what I mean by that is that you're possibly aware that we do have a very good contractual agreement with Grindrod Bank, which happens to be a bank. But at the end of the day, we really, to some extent, are the bank. And by being the bank means that we not only have an issuing license through MasterCard, but we are also developing right now our own acquiring license. Having our own acquiring license means that a lot of the EasyPay merchants today that -- whose transaction we route directly to other acquiring banks, the intention, of course, is to -- for us to become the acquiring bank ourselves and to only route then the transaction to the issuing banks, and therefore making, for lack of a better word, the full issuer and acquiring interchange on our own cards and to make an acquiring interchange fee on the cards that belong to other banking organizations as well. So somehow the focus on EasyPay is no longer going to be, for lack of a better word, to make ZAR 0.10 or ZAR 0.15 to route the transaction, which in my view is a business, I think, that is always going to be under pressure, but rather to convert that into making, as an example, 2.1% on a credit card and around probably the 0.75% to 0.9% on a debit card as an acquirer, and then to of course retain the full interchange as an issuer. So that's one aspect that EasyPay -- in the way that EasyPay is going to change. Where EasyPay will not change and will continue to grow, of course, is in terms of registering more and more of our South African municipalities in order to continue to provide services such as prepaid electricity, specifically, and of course, bill payments across the entire national footprint. Now that is very, very important to us because that is a service that we want to provide to the 10 million customers that we now have. So EasyPay is really going to be, for lack of a better word, transformed into somebody who's going to be signing up far more bill issuers, for lack of a better word, on the one hand. But a lot of them will be government bill issuers, candidly because that's where our 10 million customers actually go to, in any case, will need to have. But of course, it will also sign up bill issuers on behalf of other cardholders that may belong to other financial institutions. So again, you have to be a little patient as we demonstrate what the EasyPay picture is actually going to look like as part of our largest South African strategy.