Well, the main thing that is driving the fourth, the fiscal fourth quarter, our guidance, year-over-year drag is the DoD contracts, both the scrap contract that we renegotiated and it's now having the impact and also the surplus contract. So the surplus contract is on multiple fronts that's having this drag. It's having a drag on the type of inventory that we're being given to sell, the returns that we're able to get on those products that we're trying to sell, the services that we're trying to provide are, now have a pretty significant downward pressure on our fee revenue that we've been having so far, and it's going to continue to do so, and just overall, the pricing. So it's a tough contract, the surplus contract which has continued and into the fourth quarter will continue to have some downward pressure, if it, if you were to exclude that, yes. Our businesses are either being consistent with the last year or slightly up. As you know, GovDeals continues to just be a stellar performance, which is one of the reasons I mentioned in the opening remarks about our investments in LiquidityOne, the transformation initiative. We're accelerating and investing more and maybe faster in our seller self-service aspect of that, so that we can take what they've been executing so well on in the local government municipal space and local government space and expanding that into the commercial space, whether it be the capital assets commercial space for commercial clients or even the retail space, which we do some self-service, but we can certainly leverage what we do so successfully in GovDeals and try to accelerate that growth. But we need common systems, common marketplaces, and then we're able to really put out a common strategy to help try to accelerate more holistically our seller self-service business. So these things take a little time because we need to get those platforms kind of in place and then the marketing and sales come right after it. It's just a different model as you can see. We've always been indicating it's a very nice model to have. So that's kind of how we're looking at it. It's very lumpy on the capital assets business, the commercial, the non-DoD part, as we've said, but we're trying to manage through that, whether they be on the principal side or the, or even the consignment side.