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LPL Financial Holdings Inc. (LPLA)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Jul 31, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining the Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call for LPL Financial Holdings Inc. Joining the call today are our Chief Executive Officer, Rich Steinmeier; and President and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Audette. Rich and Matt will offer introductory remarks, and then the call will be open for questions. [Operator Instructions] The company has posted its earnings press release and supplementary information on the Investor Relations section of the company's website, investor.lpl.com. Today's call will include forward-looking statements, including statements about LPL Financial's future financial and operating results, outlook, business strategies and plans as well as other opportunities and potential risks that management foresees. Such forward-looking statements reflect management's current estimates or beliefs and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or the timing of events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward- looking statements. For more information about such risks and uncertainties, the company refers listeners to the disclosures set forth under the caption Forward-Looking Statements in the earnings press release as well as the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company's recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, the company will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. For a reconciliation of such non-GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the company's earnings release, which can be found at investor.lpl.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Steinmeier.

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

Thanks, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining our call. It's a pleasure to speak with you again. After an outstanding start to the year, we delivered another quarter of strong business performance and excellent financial results while continuing to advance key initiatives. We entered the second quarter against a backdrop of elevated macroeconomic uncertainty and market weakness. While markets rebounded sharply as the quarter progressed, questions remain regarding the resiliency of the equity markets. In this rapidly evolving operating environment, our advisers continue to serve as a steady hand, helping to guide their clients and reinforcing our commitment to support them. Okay. Now let's turn to our Q2 results. In the quarter, total assets increased to a record $1.9 trillion, a solid organic growth was complemented by higher equity markets. We attracted organic net new assets of $21 billion, representing a 5% annualized growth rate. Our second quarter business results led to strong financial performance with the adjusted EPS of $4.51, an increase of 16% from a year ago. Next, let's turn to our strategic plan and progress across our organic and inorganic initiatives. Our vision is clear. We aspire to be the best firm in wealth management. To do that, we are focused on 3 key priorities: one, pursuing novel and differentiated strategies that enable the firm's sustained success; two, creating an extraordinary employee experience, so employees in turn, deliver an unparalleled client experience; and three, leading the firm with operational excellence through increased intentionality and rigor. Effectively executing on these focus areas will help us sustain our industry-leading growth, while delivering improved operating leverage. With that as context, let's review a few highlights of our business growth. In the second quarter, recruited assets were $18 billion, bringing our total for the trailing 12 months to $161…

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Thanks, Rich. I'm glad to speak with everyone on today's call. To Rich's point, it's been an active quarter with the team delivering tremendous results at a rapid pace. To reiterate some of those highlights, we delivered another quarter of industry-leading organic growth, launched our first ever national marketing campaign, continued to make progress in the institutional channel as we prepare to onboard First Horizon, successfully onboarded Atria and completed all pre-close work for our acquisition of Commonwealth. Our disciplined execution continues to translate into strong business and financial results with our cost efficiency work pulling through to sustainable improvements in our margins. Now turning to a few highlights from our Q2 business results. Total advisory and brokerage assets were $1.9 trillion, up 7% from Q1 as continued organic growth was complemented by higher equity. Total organic net new assets were $21 billion and approximately 5% annualized growth, a strong result both on an absolute and relative basis. On the recruiting front, Q2 recruited assets were $18 billion, contributing to $161 billion over the trailing 12 months. With respect to large onboardings, during the quarter, we successfully completed the conversion of Atria's 7 broker-dealers, continue to prepare for First Horizon, which we expect to onboard in Q3, and we're progressing towards closing Commonwealth as planned. As Rich mentioned, we expect to close the transaction tomorrow and convert Commonwealth assets to our platform in the fourth quarter of 2026, which has moved out slightly from our original time frame as we've begun to scope the tech and operational work required to ensure advisers have an exceptional experience. At close, we continue to expect run rate EBITDA to be roughly $120 million and approximately $415 million once fully integrated, which is underpinned by our 90% retention target. With that as context and…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs.

Alexander Blostein

Analyst

I was hoping we could start with a question around Commonwealth. Obviously, it's a big focus for investors. Congrats on the deal, I guess, closing here tomorrow. But maybe just start with how the conversations with the team are evolving. You guys are clearly sticking with a 90% retention expectation. So a little bit of color on what gives you confidence in being able to achieve that. And then financially, Matt, I was hoping you maybe could hit on reasons behind keeping EBITDA run rate at $120 million to start off despite the fact that the asset levels are a decent amount higher from the time you announced the deal.

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

Thanks, Alex. It's Rich. I'll start out and then hand that second part over to Matt. So on Commonwealth, I think we've had 4 months of [indiscernible] engagement with them where we have gotten to know the advisers, the leadership team and more broadly, the employees better and better. And what we thought before we got into this partnership has been completely reinforced, which is that the Commonwealth team has built something truly special. They set the mark for what it means to serve independent advisers. Hopefully, you've seen just a few weeks ago, Commonwealth received their 12th consecutive #1 ranking from J.D. Power for independent adviser satisfaction. And as we've stated, continually, we are committed to preserving that unique culture, the adviser experience, the brand. And in fact, we will only enhance what they already received with the combination of the LPL capabilities with that Commonwealth experience. Beyond that, we'll actually transfer so much of those learnings of that exceptional delivery of the client experience, reception of adviser feedback, [indiscernible] of that disposition and changing capabilities to the broader LPL base. So we feel really great about that moving over there as well. As we've gotten closer to the close of the transaction, which we [ announced this ] tomorrow, we anticipate tomorrow, we've also begun the cross-pollination of our cultures. We've connected with advisers, employees, leadership to better understand the secret sauce behind their success. Just recently, 27 Commonwealth employees attended the LPL Summer Bash in our Fort Mill campus. We send emissaries from LPL up to Commonwealth's Annual [indiscernible] Cornhole Tournament. We are -- in just over a week, we'll have 70 Commonwealth advisers and home office staff are scheduled to join our annual Focus Conference. And as of tomorrow, I'm really excited to announce that Commonwealth…

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, Alex. So on the run rate EBITDA, AUM is definitely up, but cash balances are down a little bit. So they kind of roughly offset. So the mix of that run rate EBITDA, you can say has improved a little bit, but that's the reason it hasn't changed.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steven Chubak from Wolfe Research.

Steven Joseph Chubak

Analyst

Matt, it's a question on the expense optimization and specifically, the updated guidance for core G&A growth of 5% ex deals certainly suggests that your efforts to bend the cost curve are clearly bearing fruit. Given you continue to surprise positively versus the original guidance, I was hoping you could speak to whether you see room to drive further efficiency gains from here as we think about the longer-term expense journey. And do you see 5% or better G&A growth as a sustainable long-term target given some of those efficiency efforts?

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, Steven, I mean, I think the broad point just to underscore what I said in the prepared remarks here is I think the -- we've got really good momentum on the efficiency work. And I think the thing that is really exciting, and I think the thing that has this team collectively working hard together on it is it's efficiencies that not only drive operating margin, but they drive an improvement in client experience. And maybe to state the obvious, it's easy for everyone to get really motivated and really focused around that. So things are moving faster than we expected. We're just -- there are things like just automating manual processes in our operations group. There are things where it's reducing friction with advisers, so it's improving that experience as well as reducing our need to answer calls related to those things. And to get to your specific part of your question, I think this is not a 1-year thing. I think we have got a long runway here to continue to drive efficiencies before we even get to really starting to deploy the newer technologies that are coming out. So I think we'll have to see each year from a guidance standpoint, what that looks like. But I think from a broad strategic standpoint, I think we have many, many years where we can drive improvements here, not only to op leverage, but also to the experience that we're able to deliver, which dovetails back to this being just the best place for advisers to be and ultimately can be a catalyst for driving organic growth as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Siegenthaler from Bank of America.

Craig William Siegenthaler

Analyst

I had a question on net new assets in the independent RIA channel. What drove the modest outflows this quarter? And can you provide us an update on the long-term growth trajectory in this channel?

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

Craig, can you repeat that middle part about the modest -- I didn't hear the middle part...

Craig William Siegenthaler

Analyst

The independent RIA channel, I think, had modest negative net new assets this past quarter. So I was just -- I had a question on what drove that. And then maybe you could just refresh us on the long-term growth trajectory in this channel.

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, Craig, there's nothing I would highlight there. I think when you look at those -- the growth there, I mean, you can see quarter after quarter after quarter, the growth is really in the corporate channel. We do have a little bit of the misaligned OSJs that we've talked about the last couple of quarters that would impact. But there's nothing that I would highlight in particular in the quarter. You can see on these charts that it's the corporate RIA NNA that really is the key driver of that area. Rich, anything you wanted to add more on the strategy in that area?

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

I think the thing I would say is that we continue to strengthen our offering, Craig, in supporting RIAs. One of the questions, I think, that you'll see arise is you've seen less flows to the RIA segment. We see more flowing into our corporate RIA. Mostly, that has to do with ambiguity around the current regulatory environment. I think the SEC is currently evaluating whether or not they're going to raise a threshold for SEC registration of an RIA versus state registration. So when you see that potentially moving from $100 million up to $1 billion threshold, I think you're going to see more folks that are pausing and actually flowing into our corporate shared [ ADV ] model. So I think you got to look at those things in tandem to take a look at where do you see overall flows moving into the firm. And there will be times when you'll see flows move into our corporate RIA versus independent RIAs. And I would say this is maybe that moment in time where you're seeing a little slowdown of the movement into independent RIAs because of the ambiguity in the regulatory environment. That probably contributes to some of those outcomes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Devin Ryan from Citizens.

Devin Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Great. Another one here on Commonwealth. So first off, great to confirm the retention target there, and congrats on closing that here tomorrow. Several industry newswires in recent weeks have talked about how some of these Commonwealth advisers are setting up their own RIAs or looking into doing the same thing. And maybe that's actually connected to the last answer you made. But Rich, I would love to get some thoughts on what this means for LPL in the context of the deal. Do you lose those advisers? Are they in that 10%? Or is there an opportunity to continue to work with them? And so just trying to think about kind of the implications of this more broadly.

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Devin. So I think you have seen a little bit more of conversations about options for the advisers. And look, this is a time of enhanced due diligence for Commonwealth advisers. You have to keep in mind, those advisers were likely not doing diligence before the announcement of the sale of Commonwealth. And so as they've gone through their evaluation process, which we've been really supportive of, they've explored all kinds of different options. One of those options would be forming their own RIA. And it shouldn't be too surprising given the makeup of the Commonwealth advisers where they skew more towards advisory and many of them were moving down the pathway to already dropping their licenses. Keep in mind, as you go through that evaluation on your own, you can either drop your own licenses to become an IFA inside of a shared ADV model or you can go set up your own RIA. What you're referring to, Devin, is that kind of conversations and thought about setting up their own RIAs. Usually, it's under this premise of there will be better economics, enhanced autonomy by setting up your own RIA. And I would say, as we've begun doing one-on-one conversations, webinars, et cetera, what we've begun to help them realize and many have realized is they may have underestimated the operational lift and the regulatory complexity that comes with running your own RIA. As an RIA, they're responsible for their own regulatory compliance and risk management, in addition to running the responsibilities of the small business like tech and HR. And I just alluded to in the previous answer, one of the things that I think is adding ambiguity into whether you set up your own RIA or move under a shared ADV model is that…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dan Fannon from Jefferies.

Daniel Thomas Fannon

Analyst

I wanted to just talk about the recruiting backdrop and your outlook for NNA here as you think about the second half of the year. And maybe also just throw in adviser movement more broadly for the industry and how that compares maybe what you thought earlier in the year to where we sit today.

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Dan. Look, I think you probably keyed into one of the things that we're seeing as well is that with the macroeconomic uncertainty that exhibited itself in the second quarter, we saw a truncation of some of the adviser movement. And so historically, we think of that adviser churn movement sitting around 5.5% to 6%. It has been truncated over the first half of this year. We see the center of gravity sitting around 5%. And so you see a reduction in the overall movement. A lot of times when advisers are faced with enhanced volatility in the markets, they're going to usually defer a move, reason they don't want to be out of the market for their clients. And so that doesn't mean you're going to see overall movement down over the long term. You'll just see a pushing out until we get to a more stable environment. And I think we still sit with slightly elevated ambiguity as to what the macro looks like as we still sit on the tailwinds on the back end of some of that uncertainty around tariffs, et cetera. And so we still see into the beginnings of this quarter, a more truncated movement environment. But I would highlight that inside of that, we still have industry-leading win rates of the advisers in motion. And for us, I'm really proud of the results we had in the quarter because we recruited $18 billion in Q2 worth of advisers' assets. But in addition to that, we have deployed a subset of our recruiting team against retaining the 3,000 Commonwealth advisers. And as I mentioned, that's progressing pretty well. So you take that together, and we feel really good about the results that we've had when you put both of those together, which says that the effectiveness of our -- certainly of our business development team has been really high. We have heard the commentary from some of the competitors talking about changes in the transition assistance and more competitive TA environments. And we're really attuned to that. We recruit more advisers than any other firm in the marketplace. And so we're in more conversations than anyone else. We're aware of the movement in TA. And I would reiterate that TA for us is not the driver of the selection of advisers as to what firm they choose to join. The #1 thing that they look for are capabilities, technology, service, the value exchange that comes with the firm. And then second to that are the ongoing economics. On both of those, we feel we're without peer in the industry. And third in that evaluation of changing firms is the TA rate, which we have seen become more competitive during the course of the first half of the year. So we remain confident that the ongoing appeal of our model positions us well to maintain our industry-leading capture of advisers in motion.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Budish from Barclays.

Benjamin Elliot Budish

Analyst

I was wondering if you could kind of comment at a high level about your overall gross profit ROA. It's been declining for a few years now, and I'm sure some of that is mix. Some of that is as you onboard larger enterprises, kind of move upmarket with larger financial institutions. Just curious, how do you think about how the next couple of years should look, especially ex cash. How much of this is sort of due to that kind of rapid growth, M&A? How much of this trend can be bucked? How should we think about that sort of medium-term outlook for that KPI?

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, you bet. I mean I think broadly that as we've grown and as our revenue is diversified, that's not necessarily the best metric to look at, especially in a market where AUM is rising at a rapid pace and not all of our gross profit is AUM driven. So I think that's a little bit to your point on seeing gross profit ROA decline. You see that being driven by cash balances. You see that happening in line items like service and fees, where those are fees that are primarily driven by adviser levels and account levels, not AUM levels. When you start to look at the line items that are AUM driven like advisory fees, commissions is a little bit more transactional, I think you see a lot more [ stability there ]. So a long way of saying, I think the decline there, I think, is more driven by not every metric or item in that metric is driven by basis points in AUM. When we take a step back and look at where and how we're driving revenue, I think we feel very good about our gross profit growth overall, especially when you couple that with the efficiency measures and you start to look at EBITDA, ROA and how that's grew for the first time this quarter in quite some time when you couple those 2 things together. So overall, I think we feel really good. I think you just get a little bit of noise in that metric because not everything is really AUM driven.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley.

Michael J. Cyprys

Analyst

I just wanted to ask about capital allocation with deal closing tomorrow, just how are you thinking about that in the quarters ahead? And then related to that, on Liquidity & Succession, I was hoping you could update us on the progress there, how that's contributing to results and how you anticipate the pace of deals and capital allocation to that going forward from here?

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, Michael. I mean, I think when you look at capital allocation, I think I'd just reiterate, we've talked about a bit on the -- once we file the close of Commonwealth. I think keeping a -- our plans and intentions about our leverage ratio are key for us, right? So we expect to be at a leverage ratio of 2.25x post the close. We have a plan to deleverage down to the midpoint of our range at 2x by the end of 2026 as we integrate. So I think that is going to really guide our capital allocation, perhaps specific or not overtly asked in your question, but specific to share repurchases. I think we'll reassess those once we've gotten back down to that leverage ratio. Within that, though, I think we can continue to drive and allocate capital to organic growth, which typically is our capability development and technology as well as the TA behind recruiting. And on the M&A front, which is the second part of your question in L&S, I think that continues to go quite well. As I think we've ended up putting about 10 deals the last couple of quarters in a row. Those are relatively small from a capital standpoint in the $10 million to $20 million range each, but they drive a lot of good earnings generation for us. But I think more importantly, there's just a great capability to help advisers transition their practices to the next generation. So overall, it continues to go well. The pace has picked up to about 10 per quarter, and it's a good use of our capital that continues to be in our plans while still landing our leverage ratio or deleveraging down to 2x.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Schmitt from William Blair.

Jeffrey Paul Schmitt

Analyst

So for Commonwealth, you're adding $160 million or $170 million of core G&A for the deal, and that's around 5 or 6 basis points of AUM versus, I think LPL is running at 9 basis points. I guess, one, is that the right way to look at it? And two is what would be driving that efficiency difference if so?

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, Jeff. I mean, I think that I wouldn't get too focused on the initial EBITDA and the initial expense guidance because remember, that is the existing Commonwealth business. We haven't integrated that, which we will [ through ] in the end of 2026. So I think really, when we -- as we start to do that work and as we start to get to the run rate EBITDA of $415 million, I think broadly, you're going to see a business that, from a gross profit standpoint, is similar to our business and from a margin standpoint is going to be in the same zone. So I won't get too hung up on the initial run rate numbers.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Voigt from KBW.

Kyle Kenneth Voigt

Analyst

So it's been a volatile quarter for sweep cash. Obviously, there was a focus on the level of decline in the May cash number. So it's good to see the rebound in June. Just wondering if you could hit on some of the bigger factors that drove the volatility in cash in the quarter, particularly over the past 2 months. And it would be great to hear if there's been any change in yield-seeking behavior or whether it's been driven by different factors. And then, Matt, maybe you could also update us on July sweep cash as well.

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, you bet. I mean, I think when you look at the quarter, it really is just driven by 2 factors. One, in April, which is the primary driver of the decline, these are typical seasonal items, the advisory fees coming out and tax payments. And as you noted, as you got deeper into the quarter, we saw some growth in June growing by $1.4 billion. So I think overall, it's kind of an expected trend that you would see in the balances. But the primary driver, about 2/3 of that, if you look at the cash as a percent of AUM coming down, it's just the denominator growing, right? We've got a strong equity market. If you look at our AUM overall, it's growing almost $100 billion on average for the last several quarters in a row. So you just have the denominator growing. Cash balances themselves have been pretty stable around $5,000 per account for quite some time, several quarters in a row. So I think it's -- maybe to hit home the point, that percent decline is really just driven by tax payments as well as the denominator growing. Now bridging into what we've seen so far in July, sitting here almost at the end of the month, again, first month of a quarter, it's as expected with that seasonality and specifically advisory fees hitting in that first month of the quarter. For July, that's around $1.8 billion of a decline. Outside of that, cash balances were flat other than that [indiscernible]. And then just to add on to that from an organic growth standpoint, very similar driver there, advisory fees reducing that in the first month of the quarter. And then to Rich's point earlier, that slowdown in industry-wide adviser movement on the recruiting side, you'll see that carry over into NNA into the third quarter. We're seeing that in July. If you put that together, we'd expect organic growth in July to be in the 4% zone, which for month 1 of a quarter, I think, is what you would expect. And I'd just highlight that is prior to any additional attrition that we'll have from the misaligned OSJs that are leaving. And just a reminder there, that was an overall $20 billion that we expected to depart, $13 billion has already departed through Q2. So there's $7 billion more to go. And that's primarily direct business at this point, which is a little harder to see and predict when that's going to leave, which is why it didn't included in the estimate. But again, no changes in the expected total there of $20 billion [indiscernible]. So I hope that helps.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bill Katz from TD Cowen.

William Raymond Katz

Analyst

Just maybe a couple of embedded questions. Inside of the AUM for Commonwealth, I was wondering if you could update us on the split between cash and the rest of the business. And then secondly, the broader question, just on Liquidity & Succession, what we continue to hear is that private equity firms continue to be quite aggressive in terms of scaling wealth management platforms. I'm wondering, is that having any impact on the deal multiple in terms as you deploy that capital, whether it be internally or externally.

Matthew Jon Audette

Analyst

Yes, Bill, I can take both of those. The cash as a percent of AUM at Commonwealth is a little bit below ours, call it, 1.5%, 2% zone. So a little bit smaller balances there than we have. On the L&S side, I mean the short answer is no. I mean I think when you look at the multiples that we're paying, they have been consistent. I think the value prop that we have for a host of reasons, including staying in LPL, staying on our systems, the overall support that the team brings when they go into that model, I mean, I could go on and on and on. I think the price has not changed. The value prop is really what's driving that. And anything that from a private equity standpoint or the things that you had referenced has really not changed the multiples that we're paying at all.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to Rich Steinmeier for closing remarks.

Richard Steinmeier

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you all again in October. Have a good night and go chase down the rest of those MLB trade deadline rumors so long.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.