Good afternoon and thank you for joining the First Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call for LPL Financial Holdings Inc. Joining the call today are our President and Chief Executive Officer, Dan Arnold; and Chief Financial Officer, Matt Audette. Dan and Matt will offer introductory remarks, and then the call will be opened for questions. The company would appreciate if analyst would limit themselves to one question and one follow up each. The company has posted its earnings press release and supplementary information on the Investor Relations section of the company's website, investor.lpl.com. Today's call will include forward-looking statements, including statements about LPA financials, future financial and operating results, outlook, business strategies and plans as well as other opportunities and potential risks that we management foresees. Such forward-looking statements reflect management's current estimates or beliefs and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or the timing of events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such forward-looking statements. For more information about such risks and uncertainties, the company refers listeners to the disclosure set forth under the caption, forward-looking statements, in the earnings press release as well as the risk factors and other disclosures contained in the company's recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, the company will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. For a reconciliation of such non-GAAP financial measures to the comparable GAAP figures, please refer to the company's earnings release, which can be found at investor.lpl.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Arnold.

Thank you, Howard, and thanks to everyone for joining our call today. We entered 2022 with a continued focus on our mission, taking care of our advisers so they can take care of their clients. As we progressed through the first quarter, market volatility and geopolitical uncertainty increased. Conditions like these, the value our advisers provide to their clients is reinforced by helping them to navigate in times of uncertainty. They work to provide personalized financial guidance to millions of American when they need it most, highlights the importance of LPL's mission. It also shines the light on the pivotal work of our employees. We take care of these advisers every day. Guided by this Northstar, we worked together to deliver another quarter of solid business and financial results, while continuing to make progress on our strategic plan. I'd like to review both of these areas, starting with our first quarter businesses. In the quarter, total assets decreased to $1.16 trillion as continued solid organic growth was more than offset by lower equity market. With respect to organic growth, the business continued to perform well despite market volatility. First quarter net new assets were $18 billion, which translated to 6% annualized growth, driven by solid new store sales, same-store sales and adviser retention. These results contributed to an 11% organic growth rate in the past 12 months. Looking at recruited assets, they were $10.4 billion in Q1, which prior to onboarding large financial institutions, was a new high for the first quarter of the year. These results were driven by the continued enhancement of the feel of our model and the efficacy of our business development. Looking at same-store sales, they remained solid in the first quarter as our advisers continue to focus on serving their clients and differentiating their…

All right, thank you, Dan. And I'm glad to speak with everyone on today's call. As we move into 2022, we remain focused on serving our advisors, growing our business and delivering shareholder value. While the market backdrop was volatile, we delivered another quarter of solid net new assets and earnings growth. In addition, we are preparing to onboard two large financial institutions this year with CUNA and People’s United Bank. So as we look ahead, we continue to be excited by the opportunities we have to help our advisors differentiate and win in the marketplace, and grow our business. Now let’s turn to our first quarter business results. Total advisory and brokerage assets were $1.2 trillion, down 4% from Q4, as continued organic growth was more than offset by lower equity markets. Total net new assets were $18 billion or a 6% annualized growth rate. Looking more closely at recruiting, in Q1 recruited assets were $10 billion, which prior to large financial institutions, was a new high for the first quarter of the year and brought our 12-month total to $76 billion. Moving on to our business mix, we continued to see positive trends in Q1. Advisory net new assets were $17 billion, or an 11% annualized growth rate. With this growth, our advisory assets reached a new high of 54% of total assets, as we continue to deliver differentiated capabilities and benefit from the secular trend towards advisory. Now let's turn to our Q1 financial results. Organic growth, combined with expense discipline, led to EPS prior to intangibles and acquisition costs of $1.95, up 10% from a year ago. Looking at our top line growth, gross profit reached a new high of $669 million, up $26 million or 4% sequentially. Looking at the components, commission and advisory fees…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question or comment comes from the line of Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for the question. Maybe we'll start with the ICA dynamics, great to see incremental bank pick up demand a bit here, obviously on the variable side of things. As we think through the cycle, you guys have significant amount of cash still sitting in money market funds is really form of sort of the overflow, I guess because bank demand wasn’t there for the last couple of quarters. How are you thinking about the ability to transfer them back into ICA, especially when money market fund yields feel like we’ll start to rise and already higher than what clients would be able to get and their kind of ICA cash balances.

Yes. Alex, and I think I’ll hit just kind of cash sweep dynamics overall that I think will hit on the exact point you asked there, and I think you highlighted the money market balance is really a function of overflow as opposed to rate seeking behavior. But I think first on your point on demand with third-party banks, I would just emphasize that we’re really starting to see demand pickup, right? You’ve seen the fixed rates where we were able to put together or put in place the last few quarters, I just emphasize this quarter where you’re able to add $3 billion imbalances from new variable contracts. At competitive rates, right, Fed funds flat on the variable side. And those fixed rates were really at the relevant point on the curve when we put those in place. And maybe even just as important to note, like we’re really early in the Fed tightening cycle, right? Only one increase so far haven’t started to shrink the balance sheet yet. I’m sure you saw the consumer spending numbers come out. Those are picking up, lendings picking up. And I think those are all things that over time would likely lead to further pickup in demand. So I think sitting here today, I think we’ve – we’re more optimistic about demand continuing to pick up than we have been in a while for the reasons that that I just said. I think to your point on the balances themselves in a rising rate environment, sitting in the money market that are really overflows, I think the key is just the nature of the cash balances that we have. I don’t know if you saw it, but we added a page in our key metrics that Page 18, that gives a I…

Great. Thanks for saving time on a number of different follow-ups and I’m sure people are going to happy. I guess just to kind of wrap this up though and I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but is your expectation to move ultimately all the money market accounts back into ICA, assuming that the bank demand is there.

Yes. I think the way I think about it for operational cash, right, the product is a bank product, and you have a pandemic dynamic where the demand wasn’t there. For folks where they have call it rate seeking cash or investing cash, we have separate products for those and people – and those are available and they can put that money there. That’s just not really the primary nature of this cash it’s really operations.

Awesome. Great. Thanks so much.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Bill Katz from Citigroup. Your line is open.

Okay. Thank you very much for taking the question. Maybe let’s start with business solutions. Great to see combination of just strong absolute growth quarter-to-quarter, and then also I did pick up on PAS pick up 63 subscriptions in the quarter. Can you unpack that a little bit more just sort of where you’re seeing the success cross sell of across financial advisors and within PAS, is that being sort of cross sell to those that already have business solutions, subscriptions, or new just trying to get a sense of sort of penetration and growth in front of us?

Yes. Bill, it’s Dan. It’s a great question. And I think as we step back and look at the opportunity set, it’s too old to extend the offering across a broader set of our advisors. If you think about 3,500 subscriptions that may cover roughly the 2,000 advisors. And so you’ve got lots of opportunity if you will to expand the offering across our client base, one. And then two, as they have success with one of these services then it’s very logical that that they would explore the extension of that relationship to engage in another service. And so we do believe that that certain different profiles of advisors could have as many as two, three as many as four of these relationships, if they truly are leverage points that drive performance in their businesses. And so I think that’s the right sort of dynamic that you identified in terms of the opportunity set. As we look at it today, most of them are advisors that have one relationship. We’ve seen great success as an example with the original CFO solution, which ended up creating more value than just that financial acumen that sometimes advisors need and want to leverage. It actually provides additional strategic leverage that really helps them think about a broad best – a broad base set of challenges and considerations and decisions they have to make across the businesses. You got a partner that brings that outside in thinking and compliments their perspective. Then I think they get great value out of enriching the decision making – they make about their businesses. So that’s one that we find continuing sort of growing, understanding around the value of it, and then happy clients share that with other clients and talk about their pragmatic experiences around it.…

Great. Thanks so much. And then Matt, just my follow-up coming back to maybe rate sensitivity a little bit, can you talk a little bit about where your heads at in terms of migrating from float to fixed just given the shift of rates, I’d appreciate the belly of the curve is sort of flat is at some point. And also you had mentioned that you picked up a contract that Fed funds flat, and I think that compares to sort of Fed funds plus 20, 30 basis points in the past. Would you envision as demand for deposits rises that that spread might re-widen along the way? Thank you.

Sure, Bill. I mean I think on the fixed rate appetite, I think our view there is really unchanged, right. I think if there’s demand and it’s up to us on how much to fix out that 50% to 75% zone is the zone that we want to be in. And I think when we’re early in a cycle and there’s some in this – in the yield curve starting to move up, I think we want to be on the shorter duration side and closer to that 50%. Now the opportunities aren’t there, right? Because the demand is still limited from the bank side. But if we’re able to execute, I think it would be the same strategy that we had articulated before. So we’ll look to see as demand comes back or how quickly that comes back. On the variable right side, I think, yes, I think in this environment where there’s still this amount of liquidity, I think Fed funds around Fed funds flat, I think is what you should expect to see for a while. Once you’re in a place where there is demands – full demand for the deposits, I think if that is the point where you would start to see spreads widen. So the question is just how quickly does that happen? That’s hard to know, but I think the spreads probably don’t start to widen until your demands fully being there.

Thank you very much.

Good.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Brennan Hawken from UBS. Your line is open.

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There you go.

So just a quick question here on the expectation around 2Q ICA yield improvement only going up a few bps. Is that only based Matt, on what we’ve seen so far from the Fed, because the forward curve is telling us that May and June are not only live they’re likely to both be 50.

Yes, no, absolutely. That’s prior to any additional rating. And then I think you can see the sensitivities that we put out on. If those increases do occur, you can see the math that flows out of that, but that was just to give you a kind of a baseline on where we are before anymore.

Perfect. Okay. Thank you for clarifying that. And then the – I appreciate you referencing Slide 18, because that was going to be something I was going to explore. Have you looked at what that rate looks like? The percentage of cash, percentage of client assets in cash when you add also some of the purchase money market funds and other products that you all have available on the platform and how that might change over time and under different interest rate environments.

Yes, Brennan, I think that if you go back a couple pages on Slide 16, you can see that we’ve got the purchase money market funds on that chart. So you can see that data, but the thing I would emphasize is back to their the rate sensitivity of these balances and it’s just not rate sensitive cash. It is that operational cash that is used for rebalancing for paying fees, the balances themselves, right? If you just look at where we ended Q1 on average, it’s 8,000 per account. So it’s just not the type of cash that’s looking for investment, it really is there to facilitate those things. So I think when you look at Slide 18 we think the primary driver is really where the equity markets are, whether that cash is fully deployed or not. And not primarily driven by rates.

Yes. Okay. That’s all really fair. It’s of course, I understanding all of that. It’s just that we’ve seen given the rapidity of hikes, the fact that, that it could move so quickly, certainly you guys are using the money market fund sweep to a greater degree. And so if it shifts over, it could be a bigger change. And there’s been a another competitor that, that went through a transition from money market to bank account, it led to some disruption in the last cycle. So that’s probably why there’s a bit more attention there. Thanks for taking my questions.

Sure.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Steven Chubak from Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon, Dan. Good afternoon, Matt.

Good afternoon.

So wanted to ask a follow-up. Sorry to beat the dead horse of Slide 18. But we’ve gotten some questions and there’s some confusion I wanted to clear up, specifically around how to think about cash growth this cycle versus last cycle. So a lot of folks are looking at the slide, seeing that cash balances themselves in the last tightening cycle didn’t grow very much were essentially stable. But of course this time around your organic growth profile is much stronger. And I was hoping you can speak to what would support better organic cash growth this cycle relative to last? And how you’re just thinking about the cash algorithm generally would be really helpful.

Sure. I mean, I think there’s a couple things to highlight. I think on the organic growth, right? I talked about a little bit earlier if you heard. But our growth continues to be more and more in advisory, which has higher cash balance, right? So when you think about organic growth continuing to pick up, maybe if you’re looking at this slide on the right hand side of it, that’s where advisory growth has picked up more versus the left hand side. So I think that’s one thing to factor in. And then second, I think when you look at the last cycle, I think and it’s not on the chart, but again, the key driver is equity market movements or overall market sentiment. And maybe if you hone in on in the end of 2018, early 2019, you can see that spike up to 5.6%, right, still at the peak of the rate environment. This is because you had equity market drops. And then of course, moving over the right further when you pick up a Q1 2020 to 7.1% beginning of the pandemic. So I think what this chart shows is the thing that meaningfully moves that cash is really market sentiment and less so interest rate sensitivity. And to the point in your question continuing to grow more and more on the advisory side, overall is going to bias that percentage to be up slightly as well.

That’s great. And my follow-up maybe for Dan. I was hoping you could just speak to how the M&A landscape is evolving and whether you have increased acquisition appetite as the current macro backdrop taking a step back higher rates, lower markets really should in theory bolster your relative financial position versus many of your private IVD peers that are in self clearing. And just wanted to get a sense as to whether this is an opportune time, given the strength of your earnings profile, your improving relative position to maybe get a little bit more aggressive on the M&A front.

Yes, Steven. Look, I think our framework hasn’t changed, we first focus on organic growth and looking at opportunities to deploy that capital, even when at a place of strength in order to enhance our ability to differentiate and grow organically. And so in a down market, we see those opportunities around recruiting as an example where other firms may be struggling to invest in capabilities or they have less stable platforms. And they have the opportunity around a flight to quality as an example. And we’ve seen those opportunities occur at the beginning of the pandemic was a good example of that. And so obviously, we stand ready and positioned for those opportunities. I do think and then you look at M&A as a compliment to that organic growth, we’re constantly looking across the landscape. It’s smaller broker dealers and RAAs that may be an opportunity and interesting perspective to support our overall growth agenda. And so those are interesting opportunities that we continue to look at. You do tend to see some of those emerge more readily in a more challenging market. And then I think finally, as we look across the broader landscape of the marketplace, challenging markets bring about probably accelerated consolidation. And we certainly – if we feel well positioned and then we can follow our sort of formula, if you will, for how we think about the relevance of M&A, it’s got to make strategic sense, it’s got to be financially prudent and we got to make sure that we can operate and execute on it. Then we’ll be rather opportunistic there too. So I think that’s sort of the order of which we would explore deploying capital to drive growth organic in smaller acquisitions, capability acquisitions, and then finally a larger more transformation. I hope that helps.

Very helpful. Thanks so much for taking my questions.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Good afternoon. Thanks for the question. Wanted to ask about recruiting? Just curious how this more volatile equity market backdrop with rising rates and less certain macro picture, I guess, more broadly impacting recruiting trends. Maybe you could share a little bit of color around the pipeline and it looks like you’ve been adding about 300 advisors or so per quarter outside of M&A and the mandate wins. So just curious your perspective on sort of the forward look around sustainability of that sort of case adding about 300 or so per quarter.

Yes. So I might start with just a quick sort of step talk on where we are, and then we’ll talk about a little bit about as we think about it going forward. So as a reminder, over the past year, we’ve recruited $76 billion in assets. And if you click down on Q1 that included $10 billion in Q1, which say our largest first quarter we’ve ever had X large financial institutions being a part of that. And so that certainly I think reinforces the continued success and opportunity, even in a marketplace it’s under a changing conditions, if you will. And then I think if you look at, we closed the quarter strong with almost 50% of that recruiting happening in March, so you got solid momentum as you kind of move away from some of the original episodic sort of geopolitical event that caused the volatility to start. And then I think as we – it gives us a good baseline if you will to look forward. And then you’ve got recruiting opportunities in the financial institution space that we talked about earlier, People’s United to add to that, as well as this growing diversity of our recruiting across our new affiliation models. Our strategic wealth Linsco and RIA new models all contributed collectively $3 billion in the first quarter, which is a high for those new models. And so we believe that those sort of dynamics and optionality and flexibility within the model and our ability to continue to invest and enhance the appeal of it sets up for a good solid opportunity, if you will, as we move forward through 2022. The pipelines continue to grow in each one of those affiliation models. So, we’re encouraged by the opportunity as we go forward. And look, even in a down market, if we get some extended down equity market, that typically works as a tailwind to recruiting as once you get sort of past that sort of initial stage of that more challenging market, and advisors have kind of acclimated to that, they’ll begin to pick up and use that time as an opportunity to look around and see how they strengthen their business strategically. So, if we do end up in some extended down market, those can be a tailwind. That’s how we see – that’s how we’re looking at it across the balance of the year. I hope that helps.

Great. Thanks. And maybe just as a follow-up question. You were mentioning some of the new affiliation models. Maybe you could just talk a little bit about the new employee model? Just update us on how that’s progressing in terms of bringing on new advisors and assets? And to what extent could an acquisition make sense in that part of your business to be helpful in terms of accelerating your scale and presence in the marketplace there?

Yes. It’s a good question. And look, that model is really builds a really interesting and differentiated space in the spectrum of different models that exist in the marketplace. And just the foundation of its value sort of leads to a hypothesis that, that has good, strong opportunity in front of it. We certainly have had to establish ourselves with a credible solution in the marketplace. And winning begets more winning. And I think we see momentum building as we’re doing that now in a variety of different geographical areas across the country and are really encouraged by how we think that model is positioned in the marketplace, its appeal. And now as we build our market share, it gives us even further kind of right to win credibility there. So very encouraging trend. And you’re right, I think this is one of those places that you might use an acquisition strategically if you just wanted to accelerate or add momentum to this particular model. If you remember, it’s kind of how we started it with an acquisition of Allen & Co, which really gave us the initial foundation of learning and insight to try to build this model as appealing as we could make it and as differentiated. So, I think your hypothesis around could be complemented with M&A is certainly a logical place we would explore.

Great. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Gerry O’Hara from Jefferies. Your line is open. Gerry O’Hara: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Just I guess staying on theme a little bit, but the financial institutions, it seems as though there’s been a cadence of perhaps one or two per year. Is there any sort of capacity constraint with respect to how many types of deals you can realistically expect to achieve in kind of a 12- to 18-month period, either from a staffing or just operational aspect of it all?

Yes. I think when we originally started with these larger financial institution deals, admittedly, we had some things to learn and to in terms of both how you transition them into LPL and then how you support and help them acclimate, I’ll call it, in the first four to six months, which is a change management effort. And I think we had lots of room for improvement as we learned around our first rounds, and we use that data and those insights then to turn and create new solutions, new digital capabilities, new technology solutions to streamline things, better understanding about how to deploy human capital in order to support them. And I think, presumably, not only will that help you get better at doing them in the second round, it also begins to help you drive efficiency and scalability into the overall effort. And so part of that is on-boarding them and how do we think about continuing to automate that to drive scalability into that. So, I would tell you, we’re learning into that, and we’ll get better and better at it, and we’ll automate it more and more. But I think it is reasonable to say there would always be some cap. I think we’ve got to continue to innovate first into that, and we’ve got room for improvement there. I think the second thing is also just learning to operate at higher growth rates. And I don’t mean just in the initial transition. I mean how you support a higher growth rate on an ongoing basis. And I think this is where we see investments in our core operating platform, think service, compliance and operations and how we’re really exploring how do you digitize all of them to the extent that you can, and the scalability of the model really becomes interested not only in being able to facilitate those much higher growth rates on a sustainable basis, but also in the efficiency gains that you pull through it. So, I think when we talk about these digital end-to-end investments in our core clearing function, those are great examples of where we see helping ourselves sustain higher growth rates are the longer period. I hope that helps, but that's a couple of areas where I think we think about how we improve and invest, position ourselves for the long-term for both higher growth rates and being able to bring in more [indiscernible]. Gerry O’Hara: Great. Yes, that is helpful. And that's it for me this afternoon. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Kyle Voigt from KBW. Your line is open.

Hi, good evening. Give you a question on promotional expenses. If we exclude transition assistance I guess the 2Q guide would really not – would really imply not much change in that line versus the first and fourth quarter. Just wondering if you can quantify how much of the 2Q guide is attributable to those one-time on-boarding type costs that you cited? And really what I'm getting at is, is whether this kind of $45 million range for that promo expense excluding TA is a good new kind of run rate to think about moving forward. Because when I think, when we look back historically that that promo ex-TA was running around 25 to 30 pre-pandemic. So just getting a little bit more color there would be helpful?

Yes, definitely. I mean, when you look at Q2 there's a couple things to highlight from a trend standpoint. And I think the first is really conference spend. So is a reminder, this year we're turning back to a more call it typical conference schedule for us, which means the majority of those expense will show up in Q1 and Q3. So we do expect lower conference expense in Q2, but I think the offset which I think you probed on in your question is really QA joining in the call, right? And the on-boarding expenses associated with a large financial institution in addition to the TA, but those actual on-boarding expenses show up and promotional, and they really peak in the quarter in which that institution joins. And then reminder [indiscernible] is the largest financial institution that world have had. So you do have the typical TA growing not in rate, but I think in overall dollar amounts is our organic growth continues to grow or continues to increase. But I think probably the, the main thing it highlighted is the on-boarding expenses, which are non-recurring for that particular institution, right. If we continue to have more and more institutions we'll have more on-boarding expenses. But they are by their nature sort of non-recurring. And if you, we didn't included this quarter if you go – if you look at we put together last quarter, just looking at 2021 with M&T and BMO, those were about $15 million of those expenses for the year. And now when you look at this year, we have QA, which is kind of the size of those two institutions together, plus peoples, which is another call it five – 5 billion, 6 billion. So we've got even more coming this year and I think that might be the key to – from a model standpoint on your side.

It's very helpful. Thank you. And then another question on expenses, you're kind of guiding towards core G&A growth in that high-single digit range this year. I guess in an even more favorable interest rate and revenue backdrop, would there be any reason why that growth rate would vary significantly from the current kind of guidance range of high-single digits? And also maybe if you could just discuss how you balance the tailwinds of an even more favorable macro environment between letting that kind of fall to the bottom line versus the opportunity to invest back more into the business?

Yes definitely, and I think when you definitely going to address that, I think that, when you think about rates going up, I think about early in the cycle and I would expect us to let that benefit fall to the bottom line and fully improve our mark. And when I say early in the cycle, think the first 100 basis points or so, right. And once we get beyond that, I think we would consider making additional investments really with a focus on driving growth, but also while still resulting in an overall improvement in margin, right? So I think that's the balance we would have when we get deeper into cycle. And I think the key for us is real, our capital allocation framework to drive the decisions and organic growth is first and foremost on that list. And the things that we would consider are new capabilities for advisors as an example. Further enhancements to the service experience. Investments in expanding the services portfolio that Dan talked about earlier that that all these things is due to dample that can really drive growth. And then of course, beyond investing in the business, we would of course look at other uses for that capital outside the expense side, meaning M&A and returning capital to shareholders. So that's the framework we would use, and I think we're overall, I think we're positioned to really remain flexible and make those decisions at relevant time, meaning when those increases occur.

Great. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Next question or comment comes from the line of Michael Wong from Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks for taking the question. Wanted to as maybe more of a high level question just on profitability kind of pre-cash so looking at Slide 14 in the gross profit ROA prior to client cash is sort of been coming down just a little bit here over the past couple years. And just wanted to get kind of a higher level thought on what could kind of turn that back the other way. Is it really just kind lapping some of these on-boarding and higher growth related expenses or there other structural things that that you expect that could be a benefit going forward?

Yeah. And I think that the key on those trends is maybe just to highlight the changing – the nature of the revenues that are in there. And I think when you just think about gross profit growth overall, right before we get to ROAs, right? The things that are driving that up are going quite well, right? NNA overall has been increasing year-after-year, recruiting larger advisers. The financial institutions channel is expanding and growing. We've got positive mix shifts, whether it be brokerage to advisory and then within advisory into our centrally managed platforms and then some nice growth, I'm sure you saw, on the service and fee revenue. So those are all things that are driving nice gross profit growth. When you look at it from an ROA standpoint, the challenge is they're not all asset-driven revenues, right? So it can get a little noisier. The adviser-driven fees, the services fees, transaction revenues, as an example, those don't move along with assets. So you get a little bit of noise there. Another one that I think is really important is the large financial institutions. M&T, BMO, CUNA and People's, that gross profit ROA is dilutive to our overall averages because those institutions are much larger. Their gross profit ROAs for us are much lower. But the transition assistance and the expenses to support them are also lower. So they're margin accretive clients for us when you look at it from the lens of purely gross profit ROA, like I think – like you walked through very well just now. It's going to look like there's a decline when really the economics and the op margins are actually improving. So I think that's the most relevant thing from my standpoint, when you see those trends, we're continuing to drive growth. We're just getting more and more diversified, both in the types of revenues that we have and the size of clients that we have that it looks like there's some compression there when it's really quite a positive story.

That's really helpful color. I appreciate that and maybe as a follow-up, just as you've kind of move down the path and done more of these sort of different recruiting models. Are there any lessons learned sort of in terms of the structuring of the deals or the economics of the deals or are you getting better kind of incremental economics now than maybe earlier on with some of the initiatives? It would be helpful to hear anything about that.

Yes, I think – sorry. So I think when you think about the overall economics of the different models and maybe building a little bit on what I was just talking about in the financial institutions, right there's different levels of services provided. So there's different – not only different levels of revenues, but also different levels of expenses to support it, and then the transition assistance to bring them on board. So I think about the overall returns for us is relatively similar as a baseline, then the more service and support we provide, the more those returns can go up. But I think the key is about the service and capabilities that we provide in those different points.

Okay, thanks. I appreciate the color.

Thank you. We have time for one final call. That call is from Steven Chubak from Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Hi, thanks for accommodating the follow up. Really appreciate it.

Really a repeat customer. This is crazy. Go ahead.

Well, now I get to ask the question I really wanted to ask, not on behalf of investors, but myself, which is on the buyback. And Matt heard you loud and clear about the second half and potentially some room for increasing or accelerating the buyback. I know you guys have a very transparent capital return algorithm. But just given the fact that you're running with excess liquidity today, you're already at that lower leverage bound, I was hoping you could speak to what level of buyback we could be contemplating in a higher rate environment relative to the $125 million a quarter you had done previously. And given your stronger earnings power, is it reasonable to expect that it could even be above and beyond that run rate while still support – while still having ample free cash flow generation to support organic growth in the dividend?

Yes. So I think – so it, of course, all depends on the opportunities we have to allocate capital, Steve, and how much eventually goes to buybacks. But I think maybe a couple of things, right? Just keep in mind, at least for the near term in Q2, with CUNA joining and the transition assistance getting paid in that quarter, that's going to be a meaningful use of cash in the near term to combine with the buybacks that we expect to be at a similar range for Q2. But to your point on the second half of the year, I think to state the obvious, right? If rates go up in line with what the market expects, we're going to have additional capital to deploy. And I think to your point on the leverage range and being at the low end of the range, right, our objective would be to deploy that capital and to manage within that range. And I think where that capital goes is back to our framework, right? Organic growth first and foremost M&A second, and returning capital to shareholders third. So it really just depends on the opportunities that are in front of us at that time. But I think if, in the scenario where the opportunities are primarily in share repurchases and the cash that we generate is going up, I would expect those share repurchases to go up, just all a matter of what the opportunities are, and we'll make our decisions at that time.

That's great to hear. Thanks so much for accommodating the follow up.

You bet.

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