Daniel Solomita
Analyst · DIVYDE Capital Partners
Great question again. So for us, it's about having a more diversified portfolio. So that's why we have the textile-to-textile for the apparel industry. We have the packaging side for -- mainly on the bottles. So we're working with some of the beverage companies, especially for the European market, where there is significant regulation in Europe, where they have to use a percentage of recycled content in their packaging. And so those brands are looking for really high-quality PET resin. So all of our packaging customers so far that we're discussing with would be taking the material from India, shipping it into Europe and using it within their European packaging. So that diversifies the portfolio there. And then the DMT and the MEG are really interesting markets, depending on pricing and what the market is looking like. Sometimes you get the squeezes in the market when people are really need DMT or MEG, we'll be able to supply them with that material. So really having a diversified portfolio is really important for us. We want to do some packaging, some textile and some on the chemical side, which I think covers us no matter what the market comes in 2 years from now, we'll be ready to play in each 1 of those markets, and we'll always allocate a certain amount of material for the spot markets. The second part of your question, yes, 70,000 tons is the first facility. Now the land we bought the 93 acres of land, that's enough for 2 facilities. So we are planning an expansion quite rapidly after the first facility is up and constructive. The second facility that's being planned is 100,000 tons. So we would have approximately a 50% increase in capacity for the second facility on the same existing sites, which again will bring down CapEx because we'll be able to reuse part of the utilities that are on the site. So we are planning to have a second expansion in India. India right now from everything I've seen, I don't think there's a better place in the world right now to be putting up one of these facilities as it's the lowest cost structure that we can see. And that goes a long way with being able to offer our customers with a very high-quality product without the need for significant green premiums. And that's the key to having a long-term successful project here. But we are working with Societe Generale, the French bank in Europe. There are certain regulations in Europe that are driving brands to buy European sourced material. So there's significant incentives right now in France to be able to source material from within the European Union, which is really making the accelerated time line on the front on the project in Europe. That's really important for us. Like I said, we anticipate as soon as these -- I think we're down to 4 different sites in Europe, that the teams are looking at. All of the sites comes with full utilities or almost all of the utilities, which will drive down CapEx. They're all close to a port, which allows us to bring in modules, which again brings down CapEx -- and for us, it brings in meaningful engineering revenue, and it brings in meaningful those 2 other milestone payments of $5 million each. So the sooner that we could tap start getting that engineering revenue and tapping into those 2 milestone payments. I mean that covers all of our back office expenses for several years out. So that would be a fantastic achievement.