Ronald Kamdem - Morgan Stanley
Management
Lineage, Inc. (LINE)
Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 9, 2024
$36.56
+1.19%
Ronald Kamdem - Morgan Stanley
Management
Caitlin Burrows - Goldman Sachs
Management
Alexander Goldfarb - Piper Sandler
Management
Michael Carroll - RBC
Management
Michael Mueller - J.P. Morgan
Management
Joshua Dennerlein - Bank of America
Management
Samir Khanal - Evercore ISI
Management
Ami Probandt - UBS
Management
Greg McGinniss - Scotia
Management
Blaine Heck - Wells Fargo
Management
Omotayo Okusanya - Deutsche Bank
Management
Daniel Guglielmo - Capital One Securities
Management
Nick Thillman - Baird
Management
Vince Tibone - Clean Street
Management
Todd Thomas - KeyBanc Capital Markets
Management
Operator
Operator
My name is Pam, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Lineage Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference over to Evan Barbosa, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.
Evan Barbosa
Analyst
Thank you. Welcome to Lineage’s discussion of the third quarter 2024 financial results. Joining me today are Greg Lehmkuhl, Lineage’s President and Chief Executive Officer; and Rob Crisci, Lineage’s Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings presentation, which includes supplemental financial information, can be found on our investor relations website at ir.onelineage.com. Following management’s prepared remarks, we’ll be happy to take your questions. Turning to Slide 2, before we start, I would like to remind everyone that our comments today will include forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties as described in our filings with the SEC. These risks could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments. Forward-looking statements in the earnings release that we issued today along with the comments on this call are made only as of today and will not be updated as actual events unfold. In addition, reference will be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Information regarding our use of these measures and a reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures can be found in the press release that was issued this morning. Unless otherwise noted, reported figures are rounded and comparisons of the third quarter of 2024 upto the third quarter of 2023. Now I would like to turn the call over to our President and CEO, Greg Lehmkuhl.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Thanks, Evan. Good morning and thanks everyone for joining us today. Turning to Slide 3, given this is our first earnings call, I’ll kick off the call with a quick Lineage overview. I’ll then cover our third quarter highlights and share some updates around capital deployment before turning over to Rob, who will provide insights into our business segment results and an update on our capital structure. He will also share our outlook for the remainder of the year. Moving to Slide 4, for those of you getting to know us for the first time, Lineage is the world’s largest tech enabled temperature controlled warehouse REIT growing from a single warehouse to over 480 with more than 3 billion cubic feet of warehouse capacity and LTM adjusted EBITDA of $1.3 billion. We’re the global leader in our space with high quality assets in locations most critical to our diversified customer base. Lineage is also differentiated by our industry leading positions at technology, data science and automation, as well as our ability to grow rapidly over the last 16 years, completing over 115 acquisitions. The cold storage industry is fragmented and we are well positioned to continue to grow organically and through strategic capital deployment. Next on Slide 5, like the great compounders of our era, we generate strong durable cash flows, driving future growth and attractive long-term returns. For lineage, the engine of our flywheel is our NOI and our same warehouse growth, which creates additional investment capacity. These strong cash flows paired with a tax efficient REIT structure helped to create an efficient cost of capital, which we can deploy in accretive development projects and strategic M&A, supporting future NOI growth. Our IPO in July only accelerated this flywheel by reducing our leverage and lowering our cost of capital,…
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Thanks, Greg. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for your interest in Lineage. Starting on Slide 9 and looking at our financial results for Q3, our total revenue for the quarter was $1.3 billion up 0.5% versus prior year. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 5.4% to $333 million with adjusted EBITDA margin increasing 110 basis points to 24.9% as our team continues to execute well with strong labor productivity driving margin growth in a flattish top line environment. Our adjusted funds from operations or AFFO for the quarter was up 52% to $208 million aided by the substantial interest savings generated by our debt reduction post IPO. Importantly, AFFO per share was $0.90, a 20% increase versus prior year. Overall, as Greg mentioned, a very strong operational quarter. Next slide. Looking at our global warehousing segment, which represented 87% of our total NOI in the quarter, total segment revenue grew 1.3% and total segment NOI increased by 4.4% to $383 million delivering warehouse NOI margin of 39.4% and a 120 basis point increase. Same warehouse NOI grew 2.4% on top of last year’s 11% Q3 growth. So nice to see a quarter of same warehouse growth against another challenging comp. Looking at a few of the KPIs, our same warehouse economic occupancy was 84.1% which is down 190 basis points versus last year but flat sequentially to what we saw in Q2. Physical occupancy was 77.6%, which ticked up slightly sequentially. Our same warehouse throughput pallets decreased by 1.7% versus last year, but were flat sequentially. So, to summarize, overall demand is stable, but down versus prior year as our industry continues to rebalance after the supply chain disruptions over the past few years. We have seen less than typical seasonal occupancy increases, which is a trend we expect to continue through…
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Thanks, Rob. I’ll conclude on Slide 14. We delivered strong financial results in our first quarter as a public company with 5% adjusted EBITDA growth and 20% AFFO per share growth. We have significantly reduced our leverage to obtain investment grade ratings and restarted our capital deployment engine. Moving forward, we expect to continue to benefit from our leadership position in the global food supply chain with strong long-term demand trends. We are executing well and controlling the controllables like productivity, energy management and admin expense. We have the largest platform driving significant network effects, the best assets, are the industry leaders in technology, automation and data science, are the most diversified geographically and across our more than 13,000 customers. We provide the most comprehensive set of services with our global integrated solutions segment. We are leaders in lean operational excellence and believe we remain the acquirer of choice in the industry. We have the balance sheet and attractive cost of capital to take advantage of market opportunities through strategic M&A and capital deployment. In summary, we believe we’re well positioned to succeed in any economic environment and our leadership team is hyper focused on compounding growth to drive long-term shareholder value. Lastly, I want to thank our over 26,000 team members around the world for the great work they do to safely serve our customers every day. And with that, we’ll now turn the call over to the operator for your questions.
Operator
Operator
Thank you. We’ll now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. And your first question comes from Ronald Kamdem from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Ronald Kamdem
Analyst
Great. Congrats on a strong operational and cash flow quarter. I guess my question is, you characterized demand as occupancy being stable, but still under pressure from customer inventory rationalization. As the market sort of is thinking about next year and you take a step back on the Lineage platform, can you talk about your ability to have pricing power in an environment where again demand is maybe stable and customers are still rationalizing inventory? Thanks.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Yes. Good morning, Ronald. Thanks for your question. So, I think it’s no secret that overall food volumes have been soft this year, both on the retail side and even a little bit more recently on the fleet service side. And as we speak to customers, I think they’re very much in kind of wait and see mode. They know food prices, while rising slower than previous years, are still high in the consumer ceiling. So, while our customers are still seeing soft demand in Q4, they are certainly anticipating a rebound, but are uncertain on when that rebound will occur. So, at Lineage, we’re focusing on controlling the controllables, pulling the levers we have, managing our costs, our labor productivity, firing up our M&A engine. And I think in the third quarter, we performed well and are still growing despite the soft market and believe we’re extremely well positioned to see operating leverage when volumes do recover, especially given our recent productivity gains and technology investments. On the on the pricing question, you know, as a reminder, our customers’ warehousing costs usually constitute only most single digits, percent of their revenue. So, while our price is important, it’s not nearly as important. It’s having the peace of mind that they can safely store their products, then we can get that to their customers safely. So, you know, we’re constantly working with our customers to reach mutually beneficial pricing, storage guarantees, contractual structures. And all that said, you know, we think even in this environment, we can get inflationary level increases from customers, given that they know that we have, they know our costs are going up. They, you know, we’re going to pay our people more next year. And, you know, the alternative to us doing that is someone else with a with a slowly rising cost structure like the customers themselves or other third parties.
Ronald Kamdem
Analyst
Really helpful. Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Of course.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Caitlin Burrows from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Caitlin Burrows
Analyst
Hi, good morning everyone. Congrats on your first quarter as a public company. I guess, maybe as we think about automation, how would you compare the margin of a fully automated facility like the one in Hazelton versus maybe one that’s been converted versus a traditional location realizing that wide ranges could be possible. But just trying to get some sort of sense of how impactful automation can be.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Yes. Thanks, Caitlin, and good morning. So, we look at each development project, uniquely based on what the customer needs are. And so whether they’re conventional or automated and there’s a lot of different levels of automation that we’re considering, we have network optimization teams and automation teams on all three continents that collaborate and optimize the builds and expansions that we do. And so as far as the underwrite and the margins, we’re not focused on margin. We’re focused on return on capital. We have a very disciplined, investment committee process where we’re looking at each one of these. And I think we published that our that our yields on these projects are between 9% and 11%, and that’s regardless of whether they’re automated or conventional.
Caitlin Burrows
Analyst
Got it.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Caitlin, you broke up there.
Caitlin Burrows
Analyst
Oh, sorry. I wasn’t necessarily wondering on the development side, but that’s all helpful. I was more wondering on, like, a best in class Hazelton type location versus a traditional type, property you have and trying to figure out, more from, like how much labor cost savings there could be from automation and maybe margin’s not the right API. But is there some way that you could compare, like, the productivity or margin or whatever it might be of a fully automated best in class location like that versus a more traditional location?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Sure. So, I’ll just I’ll kind of restate that the, you know, automation has a lot of different Flavors. Certainly in Hazelton, we’re looking for substantial labor savings, more than 50%, given how much of that building is automated. But they vary a lot even across automated buildings at Hazelton. Like our other development projects, we expect to hit our underwrite and hit our projected returns.
Caitlin Burrows
Analyst
Got it. Thanks.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. And, yes, congrats on the successful IPO. Just looking at the acquisition market, clearly you guys have been strong in that, especially, synthesizing individual assets to your platform. How is that pipeline looking and was there any slowdown, during the IPO process? You know, presumably, you know, what would be understandable if deal volume slowed, due diligence just given all the focus on the IPO. So just trying to get a sense of how we should think about acquisition volumes and if there was any sort of IPO pause that we should plan for.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Good morning, Alex. Thanks. Yes. Absolutely. We pause, we intentionally slowed a full year before and through the IPO so we could focus on executing that successfully. But, I mean, listen, we believe we’re clearly the acquirer of choice in our industry because we’re a people and culture centric company that people love to join. We’ve also been winning for a long time and people love to join a winning team. The $223 million ColdPoint deal is just another great example of a nice sized transaction where we were able to work directly with the sellers and the management team to make a deal that everybody felt great about, and we avoided a broader, sale process. So, we are truly excited to fire back up our acquisition engine. We have a huge pipeline of M&A opportunities globally. We evaluate all these opportunities in all markets against our investment criteria and literally meet every single week with our investment committee, which includes Rob and me, Jeff, our COO, Brian McGowan, our Chief Network Optimization Officer, who we finally refer to as our canoe. But the lineage of an a team and Adam and Kevin, our Chairman, are actively involved in every one of those calls. So, as an executive team, we’re highly incented on AFFO per share growth, and are focused on the deals that have the best risk adjusted return, and will be most accretive to shareholders. I mean, we well, again, so while we have literally billions in our M&A pipeline, we are going to remain patient and disciplined and pursue only the deals that deliver the highest risk adjusted return.
Alexander Goldfarb
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Michael Carroll with RBC. Please go ahead.
Michael Carroll
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Yes. I want to circle back to what Rob said in the prepared remarks regarding the fire, I believe, at Big Bear. I guess, when did this fire happen and did the repairs already take place? And basically, should we expect the weakness in 4Q? Is that any of that going to flow into 1Q ‘25 or is it just going to be contained in the fourth quarter and we won’t have any of those issues going into 2025?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
So, I’ll start, then I will turn it over to you, Rob. So, I’ll just start by saying safety is our number one priority. The safety of our team members, partners, communities in which we work and live, it is our company’s first corporate value. And to that end, there were no injuries to our team members nor first responders as a result of the fire. In LA and Big Bear, which many of you have toured, the investigation is still ongoing. The fire appears to have started in the solar arrays on the roof, that the solar arrays are leased and operated by a third party. And we’ve promptly requested inspections on all of our sales solar arrays across our network, and they’re continuing to monitor that and don’t see any reason that this would reoccur. As far as the financial is backed off, I’ll turn it over to Rob and provide some more color.
Rob Crisci
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Yes. So, the day of the fire was in it was in mid-August. Yes. So, we’ll we’re obviously working hard to get everything back online. We removed the same store pool. We mentioned the headwinds. So, I think we’ll be able to update you in February as the progress we’ve made. But there is certainly a lot of work that still needs to be done to get the facility back to where it was. I think I should all aware because many, many people toward it, it’s a great very big facility. And so it’s very important to us and we’re excited to get it back online.
Michael Carroll
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Okay. Great. Thanks. Is there insurance proceeds that we can be expect from this?
Rob Crisci
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Yes. I think, yeah, over time, yes, we are insured and so and so that would come in over time.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Yes. We expect to recover our losses.
Michael Carroll
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Okay. Great. Thanks.
Rob Crisci
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · RBC. Please go ahead.
Thanks, Mike.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Mike Mueller with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Michael Mueller
Analyst · J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hi. How indicative of market pricing would you say the ColdPoint acquisition is? And on that transaction, how much higher do you think you can drive EBITDA, say, over the next couple of years?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Yes. So, I think it was a deal that we sourced. We had a great relationship there. So we’re excited to add that company to the portfolio. I think we mentioned on the call, if you do the math about 14 times multiple. Like anything we buy, we do expect to improve that over time. We’re excited to welcome the team to the Lineage family and we’ll get to work right away on how we can make each other better. So, I think over time, we certainly will drive improvement like in all of our acquisitions. But the good news is, we bought it here at a nice multiple and so all that improvement will accrue to us moving forward and our shareholders.
Michael Mueller
Analyst · J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Okay. Thank you.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Thanks, Mike.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Joshua Dennerlein of Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Joshua Dennerlein
Analyst
Hey, guys. Thanks for the time. So, a big part of your pitch at the IPO is the technology advantage you guys have built out and are continuing to build out. I guess, how should we think about those benefits the benefits of your tech platform rollout on the business? And I guess I’m most interested in just maybe how it’ll impact EBITDA margin. And then is there anything that’s rolling out in the next, say, 12 months that we should be aware of that might kind of benefit you guys in any way?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
So, the biggest, the thing that we talked about most on our roadshow was LinOS. And as a reminder, LinOS is our proprietary warehouse execution system that we’ve developed and implemented already in multiple automated facilities. The software uses our proprietary algorithms, to optimize effectively all the movements and activity within the warehouse. The goal of the software is to attacking our largest controllable cost, which is labor. We spend about $1.4 billion globally in labor. Our current efforts are focused on rolling out LinOS in our conventional buildings, which we just began piloting in the last few weeks. In the first site we launched, we saw clear opportunities for things like task interweaving and eliminating the waste software is intended to eliminate. So, we remain super excited about LinOS and our technology investments. The early results are certainly promising and we look forward to providing some more color next year, as we grow our pilots.
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Yes. So, yes, I know. I think, as we mentioned, it’s really attacking labor efficiency and getting more efficient and helping to our people not to spend as much time in the freezers and remove the number of trips and forklifts that are empty. And a lot of really good stuff. We’ve got a $1.4 billion in labor expense and that’s really what we’re attacking there. If you look moving out, as Greg mentioned, we’re just rolling it out. We wouldn’t expect benefit to ‘25. I think ‘26 and beyond certainly we would and that’s what we’re working towards.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Samir Khanal of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Samir Khanal
Analyst
Hey, good morning everyone. I guess Greg or Rob, I know you talked about occupancy still under pressure and the muted seasonal pickup in 4Q. I guess, how does that translate into mid-single digit NOI growth for next year, which I know you’ve talked about in the past, I think in the roadshow. Thanks.
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Yes. So, we are working on controlling the control holes as Greg mentioned. And so we’re hyper focused on labor efficiency and controlling energy costs and all the things that we talk about. And that will drive really good leverage when the market does improve. So, certainly, this year, we gave the guidance number of low single digit for Q4. That’s against a 9% comp. Throughout this year, we’ve had double-digit comps. Right? So, we did 2.4% in Q3 against 11% comp. And so that, if you look at that over two years, you’re sort of in that mid-single digit flywheel that we talk about. And moving forward to next year, again, we will benefit from easier comps. All the work that we’ve done and then we’ll certainly update in February, on what we expect we will do for next year. We go through a very comprehensive budget process here that has already started. We’re working next week, meeting with all of our people. It’s a great process. And so we’re going to go through that and then we’ll be able to update The Street, in February. But we’re certainly doing all we can to make sure we stay on that flywheel and we are very, very confident that we will deliver that flywheel moving forward.
Samir Khanal
Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Ami Probandt from UBS. Please go ahead.
Ami Probandt
Analyst
Hi. Thanks. I was hoping that we could dig into the acquisition market just a little bit more, understanding that you have a unique position, where you are the acquirer of choice. But if you were going to look at deals that are just on the market, how would you be -- what’s the competitive landscape look like? Are there a lot of bidders for these products? And what sort of pricing would you expect?
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Yes, sure. I can start on that. So, there’s competition. I mean, these are attractive assets. We’re in a great market. We’re in the food end market, which grows over a long period of time. These are though very operationally intensive assets. So, you’ve got to be a really, really good operator in order to succeed in our industry. And so that definitely gives us an advantage. We have a much improved cost of capital, right, which was the whole point for doing the IPO. We got to investment grade. And so we’re in a great position. We did this deal grade and so we’re in a great position. We did this deal 14 times this quarter. Every deal is different, right? So, there’s going to be sometimes multiples are lower than that, sometimes higher. It’s really an exciting place to be sitting here in America but having this wonderful global business. So, we look at things in Australia and New Zealand where we have a great management team. We look at things in Europe, we’ve got great leadership. And we can really find the best risk adjusted returns. And again, as Greg mentioned, we’re hyper focused on AFF over shares. So, we take into account tax and interest costs and everything else. But we can sit here and just find the best risk adjusted returns for our capital globally. And that’s a really powerful position to be in. And for my myself, as someone who’s, still new to the company after a couple of years, really exciting to be here looking at our deployment opportunities moving forward. It’s a great time.
Ami Probandt
Analyst
And any details that you can provide on pricing, understanding that there’s a wide range?
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Yes. I mean, individual deals. I think over time, like we mentioned, you saw we did this multiple and things are could be a little higher a little lower. But we’re always going to do financial accretive acquisitions, that will benefit our AFFO per share.
Ami Probandt
Analyst
Okay. Thanks.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Greg McGinniss with Scotia. Please go ahead.
Greg McGinniss
Analyst · Scotia. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. Rob, I just wanted to touch on the mid-single digit same store target again. So, Lineage appears to be operating well in a somewhat challenging environment. But from our view, the key driver of future same-store NOI growth is a recovery and consumer demand. Are you seeing anything from your customers or more broadly economically that’s giving you confidence in an improving market?
Rob Crisci
Analyst · Scotia. Please go ahead.
Yes. I mean, I think Greg touched on a couple of those points. Do you want to?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Scotia. Please go ahead.
Yes. I mean, certainly, there’s no doubt over the last couple of years, there was just in case inventory builds up, especially and with higher interest rates, customers have been focusing on optimizing their supply chains. And in many cases, that’s led to inventory rationalization, most predominantly this year. But given our scale and global reach, we’re right in the middle of those conversations with our customers. We’re working with the C level and their executive leadership teams to help them streamline their supply chains and best position their inventory around the world. So, we’ve always taken a long-term approach with customers and believe that will lead to them growing their business with us over time. I think what we’re hearing directly from customers is they are seeing new demand. You are seeing discounting at the retailer and food service level to get products flowing faster again. And I think, historically, we’re at very low inventory levels right now and we would expect restocking to happen at some point. And when it does, like we talked about, we’re in excellent position, given our productivity and tech embedded, investments to take advantage of that and see great operating leverage.
Greg McGinniss
Analyst · Scotia. Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Blaine Heck
Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks. Good morning. Given that it’s the morning after the election, I wanted to ask whether there are any Trump policies that you guys find particularly encouraging or concerning, with respect to the business, and in particular, what impact increased tariffs might have on your business given your exposure to port locations? And maybe you can also remind us how much of your portfolio is in or adjacent to port markets.
Rob Crisci
Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
I’ll just say Greg had prepared many election related jokes. We cut them, so we’ll just go right to the answer of the question.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Alright. Fine. So listen. We’ve been around for more than 15 years and performed well across various administrations, across various policies and through a myriad of economic cycles. So, we’re confident in our plan moving forward. If specifically, if you want to talk about, tariffs, for example, food is a global business and around the world. The fact is people need to eat. And regardless of what happens with policy or tariffs, we feel extremely well positioned to support the global food supply chain. That’s what we’re built for. For example, I was meeting with an executive of one of our seafood customers not very long ago, and he was talking about how this could impact the seafood business. And he said, listen, if we see, for example, higher tariffs on China, we can simply shift and buy from Vietnam or Malaysia or Thailand or somewhere else in the world, and in all cases with presence in 250 ports around the world, there’s a really good chance that we’re going to be able to support that product flow regardless of where it where it ends up.
Blaine Heck
Analyst · Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks, guys.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Omotayo Okusanya from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Omotayo Okusanya
Analyst
Yes, good morning. So, I wanted to add my congratulations on your first reporting quarter. Question around expenses, again, you guys did an amazing job on controlling the controllables as you mentioned earlier on in the call. And I guess when I think about 4Q and some of the industry headwinds you’re still kind of mentioning, how much more operating leverage do you have in that regard to really flex like labor up and down as you see changes in demand going forward?
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Yes. So, I think over the long-term as we talked about, there’s a lot of room for improvement. Right? We talked about LinOS and a lot of things that we’re rolling out. So, I think there’s a good to be continued great operating leverage. Just specifically to Q4, we do as you saw last year, if you look back, I mean, seasonally, admin and maintenance CapEx are relatively high in the fourth quarter. That’s really just a seasonal trend. A lot of that has to do with a lot of year-end expenses. And so that’s built into our guide. If you look at AFFO per share, as we gave hopefully some helpful modeling numbers where you have interest in the share account, which is now full quarter post IPOs counter each other. And the other thing I’ll say, on the quarters, historically, we’ve always run this company as a private company as a full year basis company. We have this great budgeting process. We work to crush the budget. Everyone’s kind of focused annually. So, we’re still building our muscle around quarterly, forecasting that I think over time, like we won’t have a lot of our maintenance CapEX sitting in the fourth quarter. We’ll be able to split that over the year. But that’s just a few puts and takes on the Q4 guide. But we definitely feel that there’s a lot of room to continue to drive labor efficiency, admin. Right? From an admin perspective, this company has been built to grow and double again and again and again. Right? And so we have a lot of cost. We’re going to work to leverage that cost moving forward. And so, hopefully, we could have just great operating leverage in terms of sort of warehousing, but also looking at the admin line as well.
Omotayo Okusanya
Analyst
That’s helpful. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Daniel Guglielmo from Capital One Securities. Please go ahead.
Daniel Guglielmo
Analyst
Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. We think the lean operations are a big piece of the story. So, how many warehouses do you all have certified now? And then as you continue to roll this out, are there specific learnings or improvements you’ve made to the program that you’d be willing to share?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
Yes. We have 40 plus buildings that are certified in lean and many more that are in that are being launched, as we see.
Rob Crisci
Analyst
That’s about 10% of our portfolio.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
But it’s much more than that in NOI, but as far as facility count, it’s about 11%. And, yes, we’re learning with each lean implementation, with each learn lean certification, and all those best practices are posted on our lean SharePoint and shared across the network even if buildings are not only the existing lean process. As you know, lean’s all about supporting the operator that does the hard work every day and making their job easier to serve our customers and eliminating waste in every process. And it’s, it’s continuous improvement. It’s always improving. It never it never ends. And we’re that spirit of always getting better is within our operations and warehousing. It’s across our global integrated solution segment and across our admin functions. It’s really a philosophy for which we run the company, and we think there’s a whole lot of room to grow or to go to continue to optimize in all areas across the organization.
Daniel Guglielmo
Analyst
Great. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Nick Thillman with Baird. Please go ahead.
Nick Thillman
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
Down year-on-year in 3Q. And I guess maybe part of that could be power related savings that you could pass through with the customer can achieve some goal on that. But just overall, taking a step back, like, what leverage do customers have in pricing discussions today? Do larger customers have more advantage there? And then maybe geographically speaking, you guys touched on spec construction. We know, like, markets like Texas and, like, Jacksonville are a little bit more hampered by that, but maybe talking on touching a little bit on some of the soft spots you’re seeing there.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
So, just the very beginning of the question cut off, can you just repeat the first sentence? Sorry about that. We couldn’t hear you.
Nick Thillman
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
Yes. So, the first part was just on kind of rent per occupied pallet was down year-on-year. Maybe the leverage like customers have in pricing discussions today, Do larger customers have a little bit more advantage there, a little bit of commentary there, and then on the geographic mix?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
Yes. I think customers do have a little bit more leverage than they had over the last couple of years. I mean, our customers are going through a very tough time right now in a soft market, and we’re partnering with them to create solutions that make sense to them, and prices is one component of that. And I think you saw some of that play out in the results this year. There as Rob talked about, there’s been growing excitement in the cold storage category over the last several years. This is logical given the institutionalization of our industry and in part because of the Lineage story. And as champions of our industry, we welcome that excitement because it reinforces cold storage as a really important subsector of the industrial real estate market, and critical infrastructure of the global food supply chain, just like data centers, self-hours, and public storage have become in their markets over the last 20 years. So not surprisingly, this has drawn capital into our space and created some new competition And even to the speculative developers similar to what’s happening in these other exciting new categories. I mean that said, we have clear advantages over any new market entrants. I mean as we spoke about in the prepared remarks, we have a largest network with over 480 warehouses globally and the network benefits that come with scale, including the largest network of port locations and distribution centers. We have a newly formed investment grade balance sheet and superior access to capital. We have a track record for accretively deploying capital and growing the company through M&A and development, which just further increases our scale advantages and network effects. We have long standing relationships with over 13,000 customers interfacing, like I mentioned, with their CEOs and leadership teams, which is a barrier that’s very, very hard to replicate for new competition. We have our farm-to-fork service offerings with our integrated solutions group. So, we can truly look at our customers’ end to end supply chain and help them optimize this and make price not the only thing if you will. We have world class safety, M&A, development, operations, sales, engineering, lean, commercial finance teams around the world with decades of experience. So, we feel really well positioned to continue to partner with our customers and grow. And again they understand that when we have labor increases and other cost increases that it’s fair to give us inflationary-ish level increases moving forward.
Nick Thillman
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
Great. That’s helpful. So, just following up on just geographically, any markets where you’re seeing a little bit more strength when it comes to kind of market conditions? Or is it more of broad softness?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
Yes. There there’s, absolutely. We have a lot of markets that are performing very well. We have a bunch of regions. We have 22 regions in the US, we have a bunch of regions that are performing very well, Pacific Northwest, Australia led by Brook Miller, our President there is doing outstanding. Our Canadian team is rocketed. Can’t say enough about them. So, yes, we have we have a bunch of pockets around the world that are performing very well.
Nick Thillman
Analyst · Baird. Please go ahead.
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Vince Tibone with Clean Street. Please go ahead.
Vince Tibone
Analyst · Clean Street. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. I wanted to follow-up on an earlier comment that you’re facing pressure from new supply in certain markets. Could you share what those markets are? And also just discuss high level industry wide supply trends in the cold storage sector? And if you’re able to kind of frame that in terms of percentage of stock, I think that would be helpful. And just your general view about supply pressures going forward. Are you seeing a slowdown or acceleration in development starts today from your competitors? Any commentary on the supply side of things would be very helpful.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Clean Street. Please go ahead.
Yes. So certainly. As I answered in the last question, there has been influx of capital into our industry. Frankly, we think there’s going to be some fallout from that and people that maybe thought it was easier than it is and don’t understand the scale advantages that the larger players have. We do think that the cost to build that they experienced over the last couple of years is kind of at all time highs, and they have investment hurdles to overcome. That said, we do think, speculative development and new development will subside over the next couple of years. And as the industry continues its long term growth trend, that capacity will be will be absorbed. So, we feel great about that, about how we kind of line up against these. As far as specific markets, it’s been pretty widespread. I’d say one market that was, maybe oversupplied would be kind of Florida in general. We’ve seen some softness there due to due to competition.
Vince Tibone
Analyst · Clean Street. Please go ahead.
That that’s really helpful. Maybe just one quick follow-up is how do you do you view, like net lease cold storage spec product as competitive where someone’s trying to lease to a single user? Or is it really more the operating multi-tenant model that is more competitive with your exact portfolio?
Rob Crisci
Analyst · Clean Street. Please go ahead.
I would say more on the multi-tenant, but both certainly. I mean, if a spec builder is going to build for a producer, we would rather be the people to operate that and build for them. Many of the spec buildings don’t have an operator yet or a tenant, and those become, I would say risky investments. And we will evaluate, acquiring those as they come online.
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst · Clean Street. Please go ahead.
Yes. We do we do net lease deals as well, and that’s part of our capital deployment as well. Yes. So, every market is different. It’s really about how much capacity and how much demand. And so you kind of add it all up and what’s great in our position being the leader, we have the most information, we have the most data, We have capabilities, that are unmatched and really give us a lot of confidence in which markets that we want to expand, which markets we don’t want to expand competitive pressures. And so we’re in a great position.
Vince Tibone
Analyst · Clean Street. Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you for the time.
Operator
Operator
And your last question comes from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Todd Thomas
Analyst
Hi, thanks. Good morning. Greg, I just wanted to follow-up on the customer rationalization that you discussed a little bit that’s contributing to the weaker demand environment. Are there other underlying trends impacting that rationalization, that your customers are experiencing? Or is it solely related to some weaker consumer and end user demand? And along those lines, should we assume that the challenging environment continues to impact the global integrated solutions segment of the portfolio? Or can GIS stabilize, without a recovery in demand? What’s the interplay look like there as we think about ‘25?
Greg Lehmkuhl
Analyst
I’ll start briefly. So, what’s great about our market is long-term demand trends are very good. There’s people are always eating, that’s growing. The more markets are developing, the more markets who want access to what we do, which is be able to get the best food to people all throughout the world. So that’s a great place to be. So, the demand trend is up into the right. And so it’s a matter of getting back to sort of what’s normal. I think in terms of the GIS segment, that is largely transportation, right? I’m sure people follow transportation companies. This is very consistent with what everyone else is seeing, right? There’s more cyclicality there. Importantly, as we’ve mentioned in the prepared remarks, we the reason why this is so important for us is the farm-to-fork and driving more business into our warehouses. And so moving forward, yes, there will be a rebound there. That’s going to be a little bit more cyclical, but it’s always going to be benefiting our warehousing business, which should allow the warehousing to grow faster over time.
Todd Thomas
Analyst
Okay. That’s helpful. If I could just sneak one last one in around the model. Appreciate some of the color around the fourth quarter. You mentioned the higher CapEx budget seasonally in the fourth quarter. Are you able to share a 4Q maintenance CapEx range that’s embedded within the Q4 guide? And also can you talk about, G&A?
Rob Crisci
Analyst
Yes. So, as we mentioned, we really focus on AFFO per share. So, that’s the main part of our guide moving forward. There are a lot of levers that can be pulled within a quarter, right? There’s a way you talk about the market gets better, then happens a little bit higher. Maybe you spend more, the market softens. As you saw last quarter, there’s certainly things we can do to make sure we deliver the results. So, we really want folks to be on AFFO per share. And when we put out guidance, we certainly feel that those are good numbers to use.
Todd Thomas
Analyst
Okay. Is there but is there a specific maintenance CapEx range that’s embedded in the fourth quarter guide, the 70% to 74%?
Rob Crisci
Analyst
No.
Todd Thomas
Analyst
Okay. Alright. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
There are no more questions. I will now turn the conference back over to Evan Barbosa for closing remarks.
Evan Barbosa
Analyst
On behalf of the entire Lineage team, thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Lineage. We look forward to speaking to you again on our next quarterly earnings call. Thanks.