Kenneth Marc Jacobs - Lazard Ltd.
Management
Okay. Look, there's a lot packed into that question, so I'm going to take a few minutes to answer it. First, I tend to use the same three or four factors to kind of talk about the M&A market and the health of the M&A market. And I'll do that here. And then I'll provide a little color beyond that. We tend to look at financing, equity valuations, CEO confidence. And then you try to see if there's a certain theme or catalyst that's driving activity. With regard to financing, obviously, rates spiked in – over the course of the last month, moved roughly 30 basis points or 40 basis points on the long end. And there was some widening of spreads, particularly on the lower end of the credit spectrum. But we haven't really yet seen financing dry up or really a real move in credit spreads. And frankly, if you start to see a real move in credit spreads, then you have to be a little bit more concerned about activity levels. So that's number one. Number two is, equity valuations are improving by the day. And so that kind of cuts both ways in terms of M&A activity. On one hand, clearly valuations are lower. But on the other hand, people's stocks, if they're using stock, is going to be less attractive perhaps. And also there is obviously some hesitancy about the future when you see this kind of turmoil in markets. And so people tend to freeze for a period of time. As regard CEO confidence, ultimately, it's very much driven by the macroeconomic environment. And I think as I said earlier, there's some softening, but overall, the U.S. remains robust. Europe is still pretty good, better than last year, a little softer than it was earlier this year. China clearly slowing down. So while the macro environment remains pretty constructive, it's probably a little bit weaker than it was earlier this year at least in terms of prospects and how people feel. Confidence here is also going to be driven in part by geopolitical tensions, trade. And there, I think there are some impacts. I mean, the first is, it's a little difficult to plan when you're not sure what's going to happen to your supply chains. In some respects, things have gotten better because of NAFTA being renegotiated and there being an agreement with Mexico and Canada. In some respects, things are worse because of what's going on with China. I think, the first round of tariffs, 10% probably have been largely offset by currency moves. But I think the larger impact is really around supply chains and predictability of being able to anticipate where your product is coming from, your ability to access markets. And I think that's going to have, over time, a dampening effect on confidence levels. The other aspect of this environment is just the certainty of getting approvals abroad. I think that there is increasing concern that there is a risk that if you have a big complicated deal, and it requires approvals China, that there is a risk that the Chinese may be using the antitrust process in China much like the Americans have been using CFIUS. And I think there's some risk to – ability to close deals as a result of that. So all-in-all, at least when we look at our business today, it still feels strong right now. I mean, I think our activity levels remain robust. When we think about how the business feels today for next year versus how it felt last time – last year at this time for the coming year, it feels about the same, but I think you really have to pay attention to what's going on in the markets right now, and determine whether or not this is going to be something that, suggest word and inflection point. And I think that's something we'll know better over the course of the next couple of months or so.