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KVH Industries, Inc. (KVHI)

Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 29, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the KVH Industries, Inc. Quarter 3 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Don Reilly, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Donald Reilly

Management

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us today to discuss KVH Industries' third quarter results, which are included in the earnings release we published this morning. With me on this call is Martin Kits van Heyningen, the company's Chief Executive Officer; and Brent Bruun, our Chief Operating Officer. The earnings release is available on our website and through our Investor Relations department. If you would like to listen to a recording of today's call, you can access a webcast replay on our website. If you are listening via the web, feel free to submit questions to ir@kvh.com. This conference call will contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to many assumptions and uncertainties that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in these statements. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures and you will find definitions of these measures in our press release as well as reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP measures. We encourage you to review the cautionary statements made in our SEC filings, specifically those under the heading Risk Factors and our second quarter Form 10-Q filed on July 31, and our 2019 Form 10-K, which was filed on February 28. The company's other SEC filings are available directly from the Investor Information section of our website. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Martin. Martin?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Thanks, Don. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Overall, we're very pleased with our results this quarter, which came in much better than expected. Despite the pandemic, we stayed focused on executing our strategy and optimizing operations during the quarter. The quarter's revenue total was up 5% to $41.1 million compared to Q3 of last year. Our gross margins rose significantly compared to the previous quarter. Airtime revenue was up 9%, and Inertial Navigation product and services revenue rose 27% compared to last year. We maintained our cost management discipline throughout the quarter and prioritize managing our supply chain and our sales and service partners worldwide. Due to travel and gathering restrictions, we eliminated in-person trade shows and business travel and scaled back other discretionary costs. The lack of in-person trade shows offer the means of reducing cost, but it also reduced opportunities for conversations with new prospects and building our pipeline. However, we adapted rapidly to the world of virtual trade shows and conferences. Our in-house marketing team worked closely with sales, and was able to pivot to focus on alternative in-person events, focusing instead on webinars and panels while maintaining a strong digital and networking presence at these online events. All these efforts paid off with one of our strongest third quarters in many years. Our EBITDA for continuing operations was $3.4 million, and that's a $4.6 million increase year-over-year. So it's not merely an improvement over low revised COVID estimate. We maintained a strong cash position of more than $40 million and entered Q4 with a backlog of almost $26 million. At the start of the fourth quarter, we also ended the temporary salary and benefit reductions we put in place 6 months ago as we have confidence in our current financial situation, the…

Donald Reilly

Management

Thank you, Martin. First, as we said in our second quarter call, some perspective is required in order to put our third quarter results in context. Much of the world and the industries we serve continue to be impacted by the COVID-19 health crisis. Given the impact that COVID-19 has had throughout our business, we believe our third quarter results should be viewed quite positively. Having said that, I would like to walk through our third quarter results in more detail. As Martin mentioned earlier, our third quarter revenue came in at just over $41 million. This is -- this compares to $39.3 million recorded in the third quarter of 2019. The revenue from our Inertial Navigation segment increased over $2 million, while revenues in our Mobile Connectivity segment decreased about $300,000 from the prior year third quarter. Product revenue for the third quarter was $16.7 million, an increase of $1.8 million or over 12% from $14.8 million in the third quarter of the prior year. By segment, product revenues in our Inertial Navigation segment increased to $2.7 million or about 40%, primarily due to a $1.5 million increase in our FOG and OEM sales and a $1.2 million increase in our TACNAV product sales compared to the 2019 third quarter. Product revenues in our Mobile Connectivity segment decreased about $900,000 or 11%, driven mostly by a $500,000 decrease in TracVision sales and a decrease in our land mobile product sales. Service revenue for the third quarter was flat at $24.5 million for both the third quarter of this year and the prior year. Mini-VSAT Broadband airtime revenue increased $1.8 million compared to in 2019, driven by a 4% increase in subscribers, primarily as a result of AgilePlans and a $900,000 onetime amount from a customer in connection with the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Rich Valera of Needham & Co.

Richard Valera

Analyst

Starting off on the mini-VSAT gross -- airtime gross margins, really impressive performance there. And I thought last quarter, you said you might see some downward reversion there because you had a bit of -- a pretty significant pop, I think, in Q2. So just trying to understand the dynamics there. And do we think that gross margins are sustainable in this high-30% range over the near term?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Well, I think, I'll let Don answer that question specifically, but we did have a sort of a onetime pickup on some overage charges that we don't expect to recur. And also Q4, there's some seasonality, especially in the leisure market, where people put their boats away for the winter. So that's the normal seasonal change. And so -- and that also has an impact on margins because they downgrade to lower plans. But I'll let Don answer on the detail on the margin number.

Donald Reilly

Management

Right. So we -- the third quarter was very high for the reasons some Martin attribute -- just described. The fourth quarter will not be as high as the third quarter. First, we had that onetime bump. Also, we'll add capacity in the fourth quarter. So no, it won't be that high, probably between 30% and 35% in the fourth quarter is my guess.

Richard Valera

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And just trying to understand maybe the underlying demand trends in the mini-VSAT business. I mean, historically, you've kind of talked about installs and orders maybe? Is there any color you can give in sort of the cadence of installs and orders as you move from 2Q to 3Q and now into 4Q? Has that been pretty steady? Is it picking up, trailing off? Any color there?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Yes. The surprising thing is, in terms of unit volume, it's ahead of last year for the quarter. So very strong bookings and installation or shipment quarter. So -- and as I mentioned in the sort of prepared remarks, it's logistically was super challenging quarter. So our team did a really nice job managing all the various testing requirements to enter countries and ports. So -- and I think we did gain some market share because of that.

Richard Valera

Analyst

That's helpful. And then pivoting to Inertial. So it sounds like you've got about $14 million of backlog there scheduled to ship in the fourth quarter. One, I guess, confidence level on actually shipping that, is there any risk to that production components, anything? And then would we normally expect there to also be some turns business there, so that the revenue in that segment could exceed $14 million in the fourth quarter? Just any color on that would be helpful, Don.

Donald Reilly

Management

So the -- we do expect to ship it in the fourth quarter. And ship most of the fourth quarter could carry over to next year. But revenue recognition in the fourth quarter, we're pretty confident in -- but under the new revenue recognition rules, we have to consider lots of factors. So even if we may ship it in the fourth quarter, and we think we will recognize the revenue in the fourth quarter, there is a risk from a revenue recognition point of view, we may have to postpone revenue recognition until sometime in 2021. But I think from a production point of view, we should be fine. From a shipping point of view, we should be fine.

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Yes. I will say that there is -- just to put some risk on it, what we have seen is, in general, supply chains are pretty strained. So getting parts on time and lead times are pushing out for electronic components, which is odd. But it is getting tighter than it was even sort of at the height of the pandemic. So -- and I'm not sure why that is, whether it's just general demand for consumer electronics, but we are seeing some tightening of supply chain. So as Don said, right now, we look like -- we think we're in pretty good shape. We've got all the parts promised to come in on time. So we do expect to ship, if not all of it, the vast majority of it in Q4.

Richard Valera

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And one more just modeling question quick for you, Don. It sounds like OpEx are going to go up in 4Q as you return sort of pay scales to normal, et cetera. Can you give us any sense of the magnitude of increase we might expect in OpEx from Q3 to Q4?

Donald Reilly

Management

Sure, one second. So I'd say operating expenses in the fourth quarter will be at least a couple of million dollars higher than the third quarter, and maybe comparable to the fourth quarter of last year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Quilty of Quilty Analytics.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

Martin, I just want to follow up on the gross margin question. Understand the seasonality down in Q4 that you expected down. But are you still modeling longer term that this business should be around a 40%-ish type gross margin as you achieve scale?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Yes. Yes. And if you look at the seasonality of prior years, we don't expect it to be any different. So you have adding subs and continuing to grow the business and then that's offset with some seasonal suspensions in leisure and in commercial fishing as well. So -- but just to be clear, there's no increase in seasonality or seasonal suspensions that we expect. So -- but it is the normal Q4. So -- but get back to 40% question, the answer is yes. So our long-term models have us driving to that number. And as Don said, in any given quarter, you might have where you add some capacity. And we've had some very strong subscriber growth and usage growth, particularly in Asia. So we're adding capacity, and we've added some in the third quarter as well. So -- and you'll see some of that in the -- we'll have a full quarter of that in Q4.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

Great. And Europe, obviously, COVID is kind of raging out of control, worse than even in the spring. Are you seeing any impact on your business?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

No, we haven't. And we were -- obviously, areas of concern would be if the boat builders close again, that would be problematic. But so far, the restrictions seem to be allowing people to go to and from work. Kind of seems to be more on the bars and restaurants and theaters this time as opposed to the lockdowns that we had in March and April.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

Understand. And switching gears over to the Inertial side. The large TACNAV programs that still sit out there that you haven't yet landed, any update on whether they're continuing to move to the right? Or are any of those getting closer to closing?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Well, we've -- as I've said before, we like to stop trying to forecast when those will hit. So we're happy that one of the biggest ones landed this year and it will be shipping this quarter. So our TACNAV business is going to be very strong this year. We expect another strong TACNAV year next year. So we do expect 1 or more of those to land in '21. So there's a lot of opportunities there, and there's some new opportunities that have popped up even in the current quarter that could ship in '21. So I'd say overall, the TACNAV sales pipeline looks very strong, and we should have a strong year again next year.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

And any updates on the Assured PNT program?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

No, nothing on the production side. Collins has won the development project. And I believe part of that includes delivering only 83 units. So the -- it seems to be sort of devolving into more of a platform-type play again where the higher-value platforms will get higher-end inertial systems, and the lowest platforms will get just GPS. But enhanced GPS with M code. So unclear where the funding is going to come out on that. So be interesting to see what the next defense budget comes out because it is a program of record now. So it should be -- but it needs funding.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

Okay. Shifting over to KVH Watch. I think last quarter, you said you hope to actually get a commercial customer signed up either Q3 or by the end of the year. Making any progress there?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

We are. And you should expect to see a flurry of announcements there this quarter. So we're making great progress there.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

And how about on the other side in terms of signing up or aligning with the Caterpillars of the world and other systems companies that might choose to sign up for the service?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Yes. So we're talking both the equipment manufacturers as well as IoT companies and, what I call, multi-card service provider, people who serve as a number of different pieces of equipment onboard ships. So the overall customer target list is expanding, but it absolutely includes engine manufacturers and turbo manufacturers, scrubbers, all the people who make the key equipment onboard the ships.

Christopher Quilty

Analyst

And final question for you just on the PIC technology. You're in production with your first product now. Any surprises either positive or negative in what you've seen in terms of the production costs or product integration?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

No, no surprises. We've integrated, as you said, in the first product, we're now -- we're still on schedule to design it into the rest of the products by the end of this quarter. We have 2 suppliers, one of which is currently doing better than the other one in terms of performance. Prices are similar. So we're -- I would say, overall, it's behaving as expected.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Ric Prentiss of Raymond James.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is actually Ric's assistant, [ Brent ], on for Ric right now. My first question would be, how do you feel about visibility, not just for 4Q, but for 2021 as you get ready to maybe give some guidance next quarter? Do you think you'll be able to give full year guidance?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

We hope so. I think that it really depends on how things shake out in terms of what's going on in terms of various lockdowns and the economy. So as the vaccine rolls out and things start to return to normal, then we expect to be able to return to giving guidance. So I think at this point, it's more of a macro question than a KVH question.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then the other would be, there's a lot of buzz right now surrounding these upcoming LEO constellations, SpaceX, OneWeb, some other planned ones. How do you view the addressable market for those constellations?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Well, I think it's super exciting. So as a purchaser of satellite bandwidth, we've got more and more options every day. So we're talking to all the companies that are in the LEO and MEO space as well as our current suppliers are launching new satellites that have greater throughput. So It's really a great time to be a -- in the satellite business. Suddenly, we have many, many opportunities, also opportunities terrestrially. So all of these LEO constellations require tracking antennas for the consumer products as well as for the Earth station. So sort of the golden age of space and satellite technology. And a lot of these systems are designed for consumer applications, so they would need to be modified for use in our type of mobile applications through stabilized platforms as well as marine antennas. But we think it's going to be a great opportunity to deliver a lot more bandwidth at better prices.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And related to that, you guys have obviously done some great work with antennas. Where do you think the antenna cost for those LEO constellations could realistically get down to as far as a cost per antenna?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Well, it depends. I think if you try to do a true phased array, they're going to be astronomically high. I think the general consensus is that that's not practical for most consumer business type applications. It's more appropriate for aviation, commercial aviation. So if you use a hybrid approach or a mechanical approach, they can be made relatively expensive, not as inexpensive as today's antennas, right? So today's antennas, for people who provide satellite connectivity to the home, it's a simple fixed dish pointed at 1 spot in the sky, it's nailed to the house. So it will never be as cheap as that. But the technology in general, driven by volumes, if they're smart about it, will be -- should be affordable.

Operator

Operator

And at this time, we have no further questions in queue. And I would like to turn it back to today's speakers.

Donald Reilly

Management

Operator, before we -- and this is Don Reilly. When I was going through my prepared remarks, I misspoke some a little -- when I was describing non-GAAP EPS. I'd like to correct that before we end the call. Non-GAAP EPS for the third quarter was a positive $0.06 per share this year compared to non-GAAP EPS loss of $0.12 per share last year. So just to clarify that. I'm sure people might be confused as I stumbled over those words. Martin?

Martin Van Heyningen

Management

Thanks, Don. Thanks for clearing that up. And as always, we'll be available after the call and available by e-mail as well. Thanks, everyone.

Donald Reilly

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's teleconference. You may now disconnect.