Jeff Clarke
Analyst · Cross Research. Your line is open
Well, the business itself is comprised of a lot of areas. As you know, it's, with $47 million of revenue in Q2, you need to think of this business as about a $200 million business. The motion picture portion of it is about $40 million to $45 million a year. So motion picture has a high profile. It's a product that's quite profitable for us. But it doesn't -- it's still only about a quarter of the overall revenues in CFD. And so we're very pleased with the progress we're making. The pipeline of both motion picture film for major motion pictures, but also for television now. Last year, we really just had two television series, Westworld, then The Walking Dead. Now we're up to four or five. And so we're very pleased with some of the growth in that area, but it's not going to be overly material relative to a $200 million business. So the larger part of the business is the industrial film, where we make films for printed circuit boards, we sell a series of chemicals that support the nine million rolls of still photography that could [indiscernible], we make a series of chemicals associated with other businesses around sensitizing and so forth. So that business headwind has been in the industrial film area, where as, again, the motion picture has done well, as has the brand licensing which is in this business. So the way I think about it is, it's a business that has a lot of fixed cost that we cannot easily transition out of given the Eastman Business Park, and some of the legacy issues around the electricity contracts for the park, and so forth. So it's important that we stay in the consumer business. It would be beneficial to the company to be in the consumer business with the film division even if we're losing money on an EBITDA level because the stranded costs would be so substantial if we got out of it. And we're doing well in a couple of segments, most notably motion picture, and doing well in the printed circuit board part of this. All this said, we expect this business to be a positive contributor this year. Now, while we were down $5 million in the second quarter here, we do expect to have positive contribution for the full year, positive EBITDA for the full year in CFD, even with the significant runoff of the consumer inkjet business. So this business, on an incremental basis, has significant contribution to the company, but even on a nominal basis will contribute this year. And we are very optimistic about the future growth in several categories, particularly brand licensing for CFD, motion picture film, and some of the other categories of industrial films.