Ross Moat
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. You may proceed
Sure. Thank you, Paul and appreciate the questions. Maybe I'll just answer quickly the abiprubart question first and then go back to the question about first line therapy. So, with regard to the abiprubart Phase 2b study and Sjogren's disease, yes, we're very excited about that study which is now enrolling and dosing patients. At this point in time, we have not given any specific guidance about enrollment timelines because of the fact that the study is just starting. But by way of a reminder, this is a 24-week study to the primary efficacy endpoint. So, six months of treatment followed by an additional six months long-term extension. And what's Unique about this study is that it is the only study in this space testing monthly subcutaneous dosing of CD40 antagonists. So that's the abiprubart study. Now back to your first question about guideline awareness and treatment of patients as early as their first recurrence, so as you'll remember, the last treatment guidelines that were written were actually from Europe that were written in 2015. So, of course, that predated all of the work in interleukin-1. And the awareness of interleukin-1, alpha and beta is key driver of recurrent pericarditis. And so, since then, of course, with all of the work that we've done with ARCALYST and RHAPSODY and the ultimate approval of rilonacept, ARCALYST is the first and only treatment for recurrent pericarditis and also reduction in risk. What that has done is it has left, as you mentioned, a broad label. So, what that means is that patients can be treated as soon as there is a diagnosis. So, how does that then translate into how physicians have been treating patients? So, in the absence of guidelines, and we hear that European guidelines may be updated in the next few years, but in the meantime, what has happened is thought leadership has been writing in the literature more about this evidence-based approach of treating patients with IL-1 pathway inhibition and specifically RHAPSODY tested not only -- basically two paradigms or two different ways of the steroid sparing paradigm. The first one, of course, is that for patients who are on steroids to get them off of steroids, but then more importantly for patients who are failing NSAIDs and colchicine, so a strategy of inflammation that to get them onto IL-1 pathway inhibition right away. And so that often translates, if you will, into many patients who are at their first recurrence, who are breaking through NSAIDs and colchicine with aggressive disease. And so, clinicians are looking to that. In terms of how that's translated into the real world, our data from the resident's registry shows that since the time of ARCALYST launch, a real rise in second line use of ARCALYST as second line therapies, such that two-thirds of prescriptions of patients that were treated who were failing NSAIDs and colchicine were actually managed with IL-1 pathway inhibition. So, I think that's where you're seeing this evidence-based approach of translating the label into practice.