Operator
Operator
Good morning, and welcome to the KNOT Offshore Partners First Quarter 2020 Earnings Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to Gary Chapman. Please go ahead.
KNOT Offshore Partners LP (KNOP)
Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, May 28, 2020
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Operator
Operator
Good morning, and welcome to the KNOT Offshore Partners First Quarter 2020 Earnings Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to Gary Chapman. Please go ahead.
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Thank you, and welcome, everybody. As always, the earnings release and slide presentation are both available on the Investor Relations section of our website. For those that don't know, KNOT Offshore Partners, KNOP, focuses on the shuttle tanker segment where our ships transport oil from offshore production units to shoreside and are an essential part of the supply chain for our customers. Our call today will include the non-U.S. GAAP measures of distributable cash flow and adjusted earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization, EBITDA. The earnings release includes a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. And please remember that any forward-looking statements made during today's call are subject to risks and uncertainties. These are discussed in our annual and quarterly SEC filings. Actual events and results can differ materially from those forward-looking statements, and the partnership does not undertake a duty to update any forward-looking statements, and I refer you to Slide 2 in our recently filed 2019 20-F for further details. On Slide 3, quarter 1 2020 financial highlights and recent events. Despite the continuing impact of COVID-19 on global economic activity and the decline in volatility we've seen in oil prices, KNOP is today reporting good first quarter results in line with expectations. Equally, as the partnership's operations are not exposed to short-term fluctuations in oil prices, volume of oil transported or global oil storage capacity, we have so far been able to avoid any material disruption to our operations or charters. Total revenue of $67.8 million, operating income of $28.4 million and a net loss of $6.1 million, which is after taking into consideration the unrealized mark-to-market positions on our interest rate swaps where we don't apply hedge accounting. And more comparably, quarter-by-quarter adjusted EBITDA of $50.8 million. Distributable…
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions]. Our first question will come from Igor Levi with BTIG.
Igor Levi
Analyst
So you've talked before about how oil prices have no impact on existing contracts given that you transfer oil from A to B. But I was hoping you could share, would potential shut-ins have any impact on the contracts. Is there any clauses regarding that? And have you seen any shut-ins on any of the fields where you are working?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Igor, thanks for that question. The short answer is, no, we don't -- we're not exposed to that in our contracts. We have time charter contracts, which are essentially the higher of the vessel for a period of time. And it's really up to the customer charterer to make use of the vessel. In terms of our customers themselves, I think in terms of the fields where our ships are operating, it varies. Sometimes they're incredibly busy and sometimes less so. But I think from our perspective, in our contracts, we're not concerned by shut-ins at all.
Igor Levi
Analyst
Great. And my second question is about the two vessels being delivered in the second half of this year. You mentioned you look at all options to finance these vessels. But at this time, you're not sure if you'll take the -- or this year or at all. My question is, if you don't take them by the time they're delivered, will you have an opportunity to drop them down later on? And at what point does that opportunity expire?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
I think that's obviously a point of negotiation between us and the sponsor. And I think whilst we have a framework agreement in place, I think both the sponsor and ourselves recognize the fact that this market is unusual. And at the moment, the sponsor is quite happy to keep the vessels for a period of time if KNOP is not at this -- at a particular point in time, ready to take the vessels. So I think we have some flexibility with that. And certainly, at the moment, I think, as I said before in the presentation, I don't think we'll be doing anything before the fourth quarter. But hopefully, by the end of the second quarter and for the call for the second quarter, hopefully, we'll have a little bit clearer view as to what's possible. At the moment, obviously, the market for new equity with our unit price at what -- today, is roughly $15. Doesn't make it easy. Let's call it -- say that.
Operator
Operator
Our next question will come from Marc Solecitto with Barclays.
Marc Solecitto
Analyst
Gary, you mentioned the rate on the Eni extension was in line with your expectations. Just wondering if you could maybe help frame that for us in the context of existing rates. And then how -- like how do you expect market rates to trend as you look out to some of the renewals upcoming in 2021, 2022?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Sure. I think probably the first comment to make is that the shuttle tanker market being very tight as it is and there is no excess supply is unlike any other shipping market. And as a result, it means that whenever any ship comes open or available or up for renewal on an option, it's not a straightforward open market exercise to decide what the rate is going to be. So you also have situations where the producers have their own position to cover in terms of production volumes. So we obviously don't entirely know how desperate they are for the vessel or not. But typically, we found that the charterers prefer to have access to tonnage than not because they understand it. If they suddenly realize that they need tonnage, it's not always available. So I think to answer your question, each discussion with each charter at each point is actually almost a brand-new conversation. And I would almost describe it that there isn't actually a price for a renewal. It depends on where the vessel is. It depends on the specification of the vessel. And it depends on the position in the market at the time. So the discussion we had with Eni recently, we were pleased with the rate that we achieved. And it supported what we thought we would be able to get from that recharter.
Marc Solecitto
Analyst
Got it. Okay. And then with the Windsor, you mentioned that the charterer hasn't given any indication that they will not be extending. Just want -- can you remind us how many months' notice in advance they would have to give if they were not going to take up the extension option?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes. At the moment, the declaration date for the Windsor is the middle of July 2020. So it's actually quite soon. However, going back to the answer I've just given on everything around rates, every discussion with each -- every charter is also quite specific and targeted. So it may be that we allow Shell to take more time to decide that. I don't know. That's really up for our negotiation with our -- through our commercial team. But at the moment, the -- unless we allow Shell more time, then actually, the declaration option is the middle of -- middle of July, sorry. So yes, sorry, does that answer your question?
Marc Solecitto
Analyst
Yes. Yes. Great. That does. Appreciate the color.
Operator
Operator
Our next question will come from J Mintzmyer with Value Investor's Edge.
J. Mintzmyer
Analyst
Like most of the questions has already been covered on drop-downs and watching the Windsor closely there. We'll look for some color, hopefully, in your August presentation. Just looking at the drop-downs at the parent level, have there been any yard delays associated with COVID? Or are those 2 holes going to still be delivered this summer?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
To my knowledge, I think there may be a one or two week delay on the first vessel. And as far as I understand it, all of the other vessels are still progressing on schedule.
J. Mintzmyer
Analyst
Great. Good to hear. It was kind of discussed already in the first kind of Q&A. But equity market is clearly closed for common, right, at KNOP? So how do you think through the priority of financing these things? I mean, obviously, internally, which you can, are you looking at any sort of sponsor, credit facilities or preferreds? Or how do you sort of rack and stack those?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes. Look, I -- it's an incredibly difficult question. We -- to be blunt, we haven't done all of that work yet to actually rank things in a preference. I think what we're concerned about is the fact that what we'd like to do is not available to us at the moment. And what has been working for us is no longer available at the moment. As a result, we need to come up with something else that works for everybody. And in particular, works for all of our unitholders, obviously. So I think we've been a little bit delayed with the troubles in the market and the lack of face time with some of our ranges and bankers. But I think where we're going now, we hope to have a little bit more color in this respect by the end of the second quarter and for the second quarter earnings call. I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying it's very difficult at the moment for us to do drop-downs with 4, 5, 6, 7 vessels. But I think there are potentially, solutions out there. We've got to find them and price them and make sure they work for the unitholders. Otherwise, as I've said before, the option is to do nothing. And the sponsor is -- wouldn't choose that, but I think the sponsor understands that.
J. Mintzmyer
Analyst
Definitely understandable. I mean, with the yield at 14%, it's hard to have anything accretive from that. What would the hurdle be at the current dividend yield to make sense? Would it 10%, 9%? What's sort of the target where it would make sense maybe to do a little bit of equity to do a drop?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
J, I'm not going to answer that right now because I think it's -- I'm going to put myself in a corner, I can imagine, if I say that. Ask me the same question in 3 months.
J. Mintzmyer
Analyst
Understandable. It's a tough one. No correct answer there. Final one, have you looked into preferreds at all? And has that market unfrozen? I know there hasn't really been a shipping preferred in a couple of years. There was a shipping baby bond from Scorpio Tankers last week. So that -- looks like that part of the market is unfreezing. Any commentary on the preferred side of the house?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes. I think our tentative investigations suggests to us that we could do that. I think it really then comes down to pricing and the fact that ultimately, preferreds are not really what we're in the market to do in an ideal world, in that doing a little bit is fine. But if you do too much, I think it's perhaps not good for the common unitholders. So we're very aware of that. But the simple answer to your question is, yes, I think we have had interest in doing that. But again, it's got to tick all the boxes for us, and it's got to be the right thing to do.
J. Mintzmyer
Analyst
Understandably, you'll have to keep walking that tight rope.
Operator
Operator
Our next question will come from Robert Silvera with Silvera & Associates.
Robert Silvera
Analyst
You are running a business very well in a very difficult environment, that's obvious with everything that's going on with oil prices, et cetera. One thing I cannot understand. If you have the need to take from the sponsors, some drop-downs which will extend and strengthen KNOP over time, then why doesn't the Board start buying some of the units at the prices that it's been trading at from $13 to $15 a share? It would seem to me that you're running a good business with a 14% yield. It makes all the sense in the world to, in effect, go out and buy some of that business by buying your own stock units. Is the Board considering that at all?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Robert, yes, we have. And we've debated and discussed about this. I think it's twofold. Firstly, it takes resources to do that, obviously. And it returns over a longer period. And at the moment, as with pretty much every company in the world, we have taken the view that cash in hand is king, and keeping ourselves away from any problems in this market is the right thing to do. And we don't disagree that there's economic value in that up to a point. But the resources it takes to actually go out and buy the shares needs to be available and you need to be able to do it at such an amount that it makes a difference. And it then leaves you potentially short of resources yourself and then looking for resources. So whilst we get the economics of it at a theoretical level, we just think in practice, the conclusion we came to was that in practice, it wasn't the right time and the right thing for us to do.
Robert Silvera
Analyst
That I find interesting because last quarter, you had a coverage of over 1.5. This quarter, even with the lay-up in drydocking, you still had a coverage of over 1.3. It would seem to me that it makes all the sense in the world to have confidence in our business, which has been run so finely. And well, to go ahead and buy some of the units. Every unit puts away $2.08 over the year span of time with the steady dividend that you've been paying for years. And that amounts to a very nice return, 14% currently at the $15 price. It just seems to me that we should show the marketplace that we have enough confidence in the future and in the business to make some unit prices -- sit on some unit purchases, I should say, not pricing, to around 5-something units.
Gary Chapman
Analyst
We have had this debate, and there are pros and cons, and you make a good argument. But the Board eventually came down on the side of no at this time, the timing being wrong because of the volatility in the markets. And you say that we're a very well-run company, and we take great pride in that. And we've always operated on a relatively conservative basis, and we don't want to change that. And we felt that on balance, whilst we've got good coverage, using that resource to -- which would ultimately bring that coverage down, wasn't the right thing to do. So whilst we get your argument, and it's a good argument, the balance of the decision went the other way.
Robert Silvera
Analyst
I can understand your thinking. The only thing I'm saying is, okay, as a unitholder, take a look at it from an image standpoint. It shows internal confidence and if the price of this units go up, as you reduce your payout less needs, then the possibilities that you're exploring for drop-downs, it's all in getting the price of the units up. That's the basic bottom line. And in this market, it's a difficult situation, I understand that. But image is an awful lot in the self-confidence of your own group to do somewhat -- you don't have to do millions and millions of units. I'm not saying that. But you're showing that you're headed in that direction, I think, makes a strong statement. That's my input. Perhaps they'll change their attitude between now and the next quarter -- in the end of the quarter. So that's my input.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions]. Our next question today will come from Jim Altschul with Aviation Advisory Service.
James Altschul
Analyst
Are you in the U.K. or in this time zone?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
I am in the U.K., yes.
James Altschul
Analyst
Couple of questions. First of all, I don't know if you've disclosed this, but with regard to the exercise of the option on the Torill Knutsen. Can you tell us, is the lease rate under the -- first of all, when does the new lease rate take effect?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
It's come into effect pretty much straightaway, actually.
James Altschul
Analyst
Okay. Can you tell us, was it the same as, less than, more than the previous lease rate that was in effect?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
I'm not going to give too much away on that, Jim, I'm afraid, other than to say that we were pleased with it. It met our expectations. We were quite comfortable to accept it.
James Altschul
Analyst
I don't want to provoke an argument. Isn't this an -- well, okay. I guess -- this is -- and you and your lawyers don't deem this sufficiently material that you don't have to disclose the individual lease rates?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes. Sorry, then I suppose what I can say -- I'm just checking my records here, sorry. The total change in the rate was April, just now, just gone. And we accepted a 3% reduction. Maybe if I put it in percentage terms, that's probably okay, I think.
James Altschul
Analyst
Okay, okay. With regard to the Windsor Knutsen, first of all, does the terms of the option have any guidelines or limits on the amount to which -- on which the renewal rate can be based or determined? Or is it basically a wide open discussion, whatever you and Shell choose to agree on?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
No. When the initial charter is set, all of the options are priced already in the contract. So actually, if the charter wanted to take all of the options, they're already there for them to take if they want. So it's not an open discussion from the beginning. It's -- there's always a stake in the ground from which we try not to move.
James Altschul
Analyst
But I mean, I guess, since it's just an option, you're not bound by it so you can choose to negotiate something else?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
No. We're bound...
James Altschul
Analyst
By mutual consent?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes -- no, we've offered the ship at that rate. It's the charterer's option. It's not a 2-way option. So the charterer has the choice to take the vessel at that price. We have to -- if the charterer wants to, then we have to give the vessel to the charterer at that option price.
James Altschul
Analyst
But if the charter says, we don't want to -- we'd like to renew it, but we want to pay something less, you were -- I mean, you could -- you can have that discussion. I mean, that's by mutual consent?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes, yes. I mean, I think that's coming back to what I was saying earlier. That every discussion with every charter at every different point in time has a different set of circumstances around it. And so we don't see a sort of homogenous shuttle tanker charter rate. And that's why, because of the lack of supply of shuttle tankers in the market, we're very much able to hold our own in that negotiation with each of our customers.
James Altschul
Analyst
Okay. And I don't want to take too much of your time but with regard to the Windsor Knutsen. First of all, is that operating off the shore of Brazil or somewhere else?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
It is now. Yes. It's gone back to Brazil.
James Altschul
Analyst
Where was it?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
It was operating in West Africa for a while.
James Altschul
Analyst
Oh, okay. If Shell chose -- and I'm not saying Shell will choose not to renew the -- or actualize the option, renew -- continue to lease, whatever terminology you want to use, but they chose not to continue leasing it, what -- would you have some other alternatives? Have you started talking with any other potential customers just in case? Or when would you feel compelled to start doing that?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Well, it's quite a small market, Jim. And actually, we're in constant contact with pretty much every shuttle tanker customer in Brazil, as you may imagine. So it's not the case of starting a conversation. It's actually quite a small world so we're already aware of demand. And there's often, whether it's production spikes or someone else's vessel is in drydock or have some technical problems or -- there can be all kinds of reasons why Petrobras, for example, just using that name, may want a ship. That could quite easily become quite common knowledge in the market. So it's quite easy for us to know where the demand might be. And as I say, our commercial team are already in constant third-party discussions with our customers, pretty much all the time. So it's a relatively small market in that sense.
James Altschul
Analyst
Okay. And 1 more, if I may. Do you have any drydockings for any of the other ships planned or expected for the balance of this year?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
No, there's no more drydocks for 2020 planned.
James Altschul
Analyst
Any plans for 2021?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes, there will be. I don't have the schedule in front of me, I'm afraid. But yes, there definitely are some drydocks in 2021.
Operator
Operator
Our next question will come from Richard Diamond with Castle.
Richard Diamond
Analyst
Thank you for delivering a consistent job. This is just wanting to bounce it off since I don't think there'll be any analyst meeting, at least for the next couple of months. Have -- would it make sense to do a virtual zoom where you could, again, provide overview on the market in addition to the strategy going forward?
Gary Chapman
Analyst
You're talking, a little bit like a mini Investor?
Richard Diamond
Analyst
A mini Investor Day. We're about -- I think the last one was two years ago, and it might be very helpful to consider doing one.
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Yes, Richard, we'd actually penciled in to do something probably in Q2 this year. But with everything that's happened in terms of travel, et cetera, and the difficulties that people have encountered, that sort of got put on the back burner. But you're right. I think it's -- we should -- we were already looking at doing something, and we hadn't yet sort of reset any dates or time lines around that. But yes, it's on our agenda, it's on our radar to think about.
Operator
Operator
This will conclude our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Gary Chapman for any closing remarks.
Gary Chapman
Analyst
Well, thank you very much to everyone that's listened in, and I wish you a good day and stay safe. Thank you very much indeed.
Operator
Operator
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.