Richard Kinder
Analyst · Raymond James
Well, first of all, I think the answer as to why we're concentrating on FTA is a combination of 2 things. You mentioned that we are conservative about it. And secondly and we're not sure what the non-FTA process is. I mean, just as recently as yesterday at a conference, I guess, the undersecretary, who's in charge with making these decisions, said he didn't know when they would make the decision, that they had to consider a lot of factors. They've had a couple of studies already about which you said we should export. But we don't have a decision yet. So I think in the end and I've said this before, our view is that there will be substantial amounts of non-FTA approved, particularly for those plants that have good contracts with viable, creditworthy companies. But we can't guarantee that, that's going to happen. So we've concentrated on the FTA. And as I said in my remarks, the beauty of the deal with Shell at Elba Island is that whole first phase is not contingent on getting the non-FTA approval. Now at the Gulf, where we have more space, more opportunity there in terms of sizing, we're working with some customers there to do a non-FTA train -- excuse me, an FTA train and we're working with other customers to work on non-FTA volumes, too. But again, our first preference is to get FTA signed up because there, we have projects we can depend on and know that they're going forward. So that's our feeling. As far as the gas price increase, I don't know how much weekly or monthly movement really means. I don't believe anybody thought that the Henry Hub price of supply looking out over the life of an LNG contract was going to stay at $2 or $2.50 where it was this time last year. But certainly, if the perception becomes that gas prices are meaningfully higher, then that will have some impact, I suppose, on how willing players are to enter into contracts. You have to remember, of course, that the disconnect between the landed prices for LNG, particularly in Japan and the rest of Asia to a lesser extent, versus the price of the Henry Hub even when adding in the liquefaction and transportation expenses is still enormous. There's still a big spread there between the landed cost and the cost of the -- landed price and the cost of delivering. So I think there's still money to be made there. But that may well change, may well close. And obviously, we're not betting on that. We're just looking for customers who want to take a swing at those things and make a lot of money and we're happy to just get the minimum return on our little assets that we're going to build for them.