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Kingstone Companies, Inc. (KINS)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Mar 15, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Kingstone Companies' 2017 Fourth Quarter and Year-End Financial Results and Dale Thatcher introduction. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn your conference over to your host, Amanda Goldstein. Thank you. You may begin.

Amanda Goldstein

Analyst

Thank you Sherrie and good morning everyone. Yesterday afternoon, the company issued a press release detailing Kingstone's 2017 fourth quarter and year-end results. On this call, Kingstone may make forward-looking statements regarding itself and its business. The forward-looking events and circumstances discussed on this call may not occur and could differ materially as a result of known and unknown risk factors and uncertainties affecting Kingstone. For more information, please refer to section entitled Factors that May Affect Future Results and Financial Condition in our Item 7 of the Company's Form 10-K for the year ended 12/31/17, along with a commentary on forward-looking statements at the end of the company's earnings release issued yesterday. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Kingstone's Chairman and CEO, Mr. Barry Goldstein. Please go ahead, Mr. Goldstein.

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Thanks, Amanda and good morning. Joining me today as always is Ben Walden our Chief Actuary and Victor Brodsky, our CFO. And for the very first time for those of you who don’t know him, I like to introduce you to Mr. Dale Thatcher. As of today Dale joins our board, our team as the Chief Operating Officer of Kingstone companies and as President and CEO of the Kingstone insurance company. Since the time Dale joined our board in August of 2017, he has been an active and knowledgeable influence over the company’s affairs. I look forward to the expanding role he will take on as we continue to grow Kingstone. Dale, maybe now would be a good time for you to introduce yourself.

Dale Thatcher

Analyst

Thanks, Barry. And I must begin by thanking the Kingstone Board of Directors for the support they have shown to me. Ever since I joined the board, I’ve been impressed by the people and performance of Kingstone. This is an exciting opportunity for me to join the executive team and help build on Kingstone’s foundation of success. For those of you who don’t know me, I have spent the last few years in my own consulting firm after spending 16 years as the CFO of Selective Insurance Group. I have over 30 years of experience in the primary P&C industry, primarily in finance and finance related roles, but always with an eye toward helping to improve the operations of my companies. I’m a CPA and [Indiscernible] of both the University of Cincinnati and the Harvard Business School. I look forward to contributing my background and experience as we continue the proud tradition of profitable growth here at Kingstone. With that, let me turn the call back to Barry.

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Okay thanks, Dale. Let me start with a short look back at 2017. First, we ended the year in great shape, but I’d like to mention just a few items. Following the December $30 million note [ph] offering the subsequent $25 million surplus contribution to Kingstone insurance company, we ended 2017 with over $100 million in statutory surplus. I am reminded that when I joined the insurance company board in late 2005 and began this journey as Chairman in January 2006, the insurance company had just over $3 million in surplus. Earlier in 2017, we saw our A.M. Best rating of “A- Excellent”. 12 years ago, we started without any A.M. Best rating, and since that initial rating of B (Fair), we’ve worked hard to improve our company grow its writing, strengthen its balance sheet and reduce our reliance upon quota share reinsurance. I think you’ll all agree with me that we’ve succeeded on all counts. We began last year with a plan to become a regional carrier in the Northeast. We are now actively writing business in New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island in addition to our home state of New York. Our plans call for further expansion into Massachusetts soon and Connecticut hopefully by year-end. I’m going to turn the call over to Ben now, so that he can give you a little more color as to what I think our sneaky good results in the fourth quarter. Ben?

Ben Walden

Analyst

Thank you, Barry. We ended 2017 with our most profitable year ever from an underwriting perspective. During the quarter, we saw an accelerating growth rate and solidly profitable results. However, the fourth quarter does tend to be volatile from year-to-year due to the impact of larger fires and early winter weather. Our Q4, 2017 loss ratio was higher than last year, primarily because the result for Q4, 2016 was much better than we normally see in the fourth quarter. This quarter’s result was impacted by two large claims, one in personal lines, and one in commercial lines, which reached our maximum per risk retentions. There was also an increase in claims frequency due to very cold weather that started in the last week of December. The 2017 fourth quarter net loss ratio increased 5 points to 50.5 compared to 45.5 in the prior year period. Fire claim activity was in line with seasonal averages, but significantly higher than last fourth quarter. The early onset of extreme cold weather starting in the last week of December and continuing into early January also affected our results. We had a spell of six consecutive December days with below freezing temperatures which was the longest in the past 17 years in the New York region. Turning to volume, growth and personal lines accelerated continuing the trend seen since the A.M. Best upgrade. In the fourth quarter, personal lines direct written premiums grew 28% driven by a 90% increase in new policies from our New York homeowner’s line. In contrast, the personal lines written premium growth rate was 12% for the first quarter compared to 2016, since the A.M. Best upgrade, personal lines growth rates have increased to 17%, 25% and 28% for the last three quarters of the year. The recent increases in written…

Victor Brodsky

Analyst

Good morning. As Ben noted, we continued to see strong growth and our direct written premiums increased by almost 20% in the fourth quarter compared to Q4, 2016. As we are building our business outside of New York, we are now looking at that business as our expansion business and our New York business as our core business. Accelerating written premium growth creates a lag in net premiums earned for both our core and expansion businesses, thus adversely impacting our net underwriting expense ratio even more so, the expense ratio which excludes ceding commissions and commission expense. The lag in net premiums earned is most pronounced in our expansion business. Due to this lag in the fourth quarter, we incurred more expansion expenses in expansion net premiums earned. The lag in net premiums earned and the decrease in quota share rate on July 1, 2017 distorts net underwriting expense ratio comparisons between periods. While a decrease in quota share increase in net premiums retain, it also result in immediate and significant decrease in ceding commissions. The decrease in ceding commissions is the largest driver of changes in the net underwriting expense ratio. Due to the effects of the change in quota share rate, the lag in net premiums earned and the impact of expansion expenses, we believe that utilizing the ratio of core underwriting expenses to core direct written premiums what was a more consistent comparison between periods. I will refer to this as the core expense ratio. And looking at our core underwriting expenses, during the fourth quarter, I would like to recall your attention to a significant increase in expense that we have no control over which is our New York State regulatory fees. As New York State domiciled insurance carrier, we are subject to funding a share…

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Thanks, Victor. With the winds at our back, the strengthened management team and a rock solid balance sheet, and a reputation we’ve build over many years, we look forward to becoming a northeast regional “A” rated agent-only underwriter. We have achieved our success by honoring our select producers and with their continued input and support we will reach our next set of goals. We charge our values of loyalty and finesse [ph] in everything that we do pointing only to the long-term, not quarter-by-quarter as we approach the 132nd anniversary of Kingstone Insurance. With that operator, let me open the line for questions. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Paul Newsome with Sandler O'Neill. Please proceed with your question.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Good morning. I’ve got a bunch of questions, but let’s sort of harm [ph] down a little bit. I guess, the first question is, can you just talk about the timing of when you knew that the fourth quarter would be disappointing and -- from the financial result perspective and sort of thoughts about pronouncements in the future?

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Sure. Let me start that then I'll turn it over to Ben. We started getting in a lot of the winter related frozen pipe type claims, but they take quite a while to develop and the gravity of the claim, even today from the early January freeze still isn’t fully known. Our intention is to pre-announce things once we have enough color around them for. And as it is, it’s a little bit of discomfort and having to give a range as wide as we already have. So with that, maybe Ben can give a little more detail as to what we saw during the quarter and how we’ll handle things for the rest of this quarter.

Ben Walden

Analyst

Sure. So we noted there were two large claims in the quarter. One of them was a personal lines fire which occurred in December, so we didn’t really know about that till late in the quarter. But the freeze claims as Barry said were not known until later in first quarter due to the fact that they occurred in the last week of December. We did not feel it was a very unusual quarter outside of the two large claims. The fire activity was actually similar to what we had seen in prior fourth quarters, but as noted the result was worse than last fourth quarter because last fourth quarter had an unusually low amount of fire activity.

Victor Brodsky

Analyst

Paul, I’m sorry, I’m not sure we are answering your question. Was yours directed towards the free announcement of the first quarter or the detail regarding the fourth quarter?

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Really, the fourth quarter, I do never -- anyhow you’ve addressed it as I’d hoped. This is a related question for the first quarter. Historically it sounds like based upon what you’ve given us that the first quarter will end up being a loss given the size of those events. Historically, reinsurances has allowed you to kind of squeak by with the fairly minimal losses in those events. Can you talk about how that has changed over time in terms of both the reinsurance coverage as well as how you think of basically catastrophe management's sort of quarter by quarter from a financial perspective?

Ben Walden

Analyst

So, in terms of prior treatment of reinsurance, you recall, when we had Sandy, we did not have the coverage that we have today to sustain an event like this. One of the important additions to our reinsurance in the last several years is reinstatement premium protection which limits the effect of a single cat to a known number. In this case it's $4 million. So that limits some of the volatility. However, for this particular quarter, we do have three separate storm events. We believe that one of them will likely hit the cat retention, the other two will not. So that will fall to the bottom line after reported share. That answers your question. Paul?

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Sorry. I have [ph] been on the phone here. I think that’s very helpful.

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Yes. Let me just chime in a little bit. We’re company in transition going from essentially a single state rider, when we negotiated our last set of reinsurance treaties and moving towards a regional carrier. So the way we will construct our program as of July 1, which is our renewal date, we’ll reflect more about us being a regional company and with more exposure throughout the Northeast, the likelihood of us being impacted by winter weather increases and we’ll restructure the program to take that into consideration.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Appreciate it. It’s helpful.

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks.

Barry Goldstein

Analyst

Great. Thanks very much. And I think we had an excellent fourth quarter. I think calling an 8099 a miss is a stretch of the imagination that I can’t get my arms around. Insurance is a business built for a long-term. If you try to game the system and try to bet on quarter-by-quarter activity, it’s a fool’s game. I’d only say that we are very proud to hold control over a company that’s been in business and paid every claim over a 130-year period. And that’s how we run this company. But in the end, it is what it is. Thank you for taking the time to listen. And from my entire team which now includes Dale Thatcher, I want to say that we’re pleased and proud to have delivered these strong and consistent results and look forward to more of the same in 2018 and beyond. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today’s conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank you for your participation.