David Grzebinski
Analyst · Evercore. You may proceed with your question.
Yeah. If we reset everything right now, based on prices everything will move up about 15% and that would, in terms of rates, you do know that most of the -- fourth quarter is the heaviest quarter in terms of term contract roll. Remember we do have 35% spot, that's spot is a day-to-day spot, some contracts that are six months in length in the spot market. But if you were to roll that all and today it was -- everything was marked-to-market, I think we'd be getting pretty dang close to a 20% margin, that's just a guess. I'd have to pencil it out, but certainly mid to high double-digits, that's if you could wave the one. But as you know, it takes a while for all these contracts to roll and some of the contracts are multi-year and the good thing about the multi-year contracts is they do have CPI and labor type escalators. I would say also the fuel dynamic is something that -- not that we are getting pencil whipped, but in the first quarter of last year, the average fuel price we paid was a $1.65. We averaged $2.50 in the first quarter, but I would tell you in March and April we're paying anywhere from $4 to $4.75 a gallon. So one, that all comes in as revenue with no margin, so it's a little dilutive to margin, but two, some of those contract escalators take a quarter to roll through. We will be a little impacted in our second quarter margin, but by third quarter, those escalators will all catch up. So there is a little bit of fuel dynamic in our margins, but I would say, and you know this, Ben, we work hard to make sure fuel's a pass-through. We don't want to make money on fuel. Our customers don't want us to make money or lose money on fuel. We work hard to make it a pass-through. But back to your core question, the rate environment is very positive and if we could wave a magic wand, which would be lovely, we'd get a nice pop in margins.