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Jack Henry & Associates, Inc. (JKHY)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 8, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen welcome to the Jack Henry and Associates First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode and later we will conduct a question and answer session with instructions given at that time. And as a reminder this conference is being recorded. Now, I'll turn the conference over to your host, Kevin Williams, CFO. Please begin. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Thanks, Tyrone. Good morning. Thank you for joining us for the Jack Henry Associates first quarter fiscal 2018 earnings call. I'm Kevin Williams, CFO and Treasurer and on the call with me today is David Foss, our President and CEO. The agenda for the call this morning, in just a few minutes I will turn the call over to Dave to provide some of his thoughts about the state of the business and performance for the quarter. Then I'll provide some additional thoughts and comments regarding the press release that we put out yesterday after the market close. Then we'll then open the lines up for Q&A. I need to remind you the remarks and responses to questions concerning future expectations events, objectives, strategies, trends or results constitute forward-looking statements or deal with expectations about the future. Like any statement about the future these are subject to a number of factors which could cause actual results or events to differ materially from those which we anticipate due to a number of risks and uncertainties. And the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise these statements. For some of these risk factors and additional information, please refer to yesterday's press release in the sections in our 10-K entitled Risk Factors and Forward Looking Statements. With that I now turn the call over to Dave. David…

Operator

Operator

Sure. First question is from Brett Huff of Stephens. Your line is open.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Good morning, Brett.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

First of all, thanks for the detail on the divestiture on the $1 million. I think you said when you went through that math, it was just under $1 million. And so, I think that would have brought you, I think you said right in line with what the Street is expecting. Was that the right math that I heard? Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yes.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Okay. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yes, but adding that back will put us right at the $361 million.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Okay. That's helpful. And then in terms of divestitures, you guys have done a few of those kind of around the edges. Are there more of those that we should expect as you guys kind of refocus your capital maybe on higher growth areas and things like that, or how should we think about that? I know you don't need to generate any cash in order to do M&A deals if something interesting comes along. But kind of what's your outlook on some of those divestitures? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. Good question. The, what we've been doing here with these divestitures really lines up with the message that I delivered at the Analyst Day here earlier this year around focus. So, we had a few of those very small businesses that were frankly not focused or not in the areas that we believe we really need to remain focused. Forms and Supplies is one of those. It's not a growth area and it's not something that we're particularly focused on. So, I can tell you that we don't have any other anticipated divestitures right now. I think we've gotten rid of kind of the solutions that were around the edges and now the mission is to grow the business as it is.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

That's helpful. And then last question for me. Kevin, I think you mentioned again some of the work you were doing around getting the First Data, PSCU, things off the ground or maybe it was Dave. So, the first debit customer already went live. How did that go and does that feel like you got, give you guys good line of sight for the timelines I think you had outlined for us starting really to convert a lot of those folks this year, but then kind of finishing them up next year? Does that timeline still make sense given that first one that went live? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. We feel really good about the – our positioning right now. I think the team from all three sides – remember, there are three partners in this deal between First Data, Jack Henry and PSCU. All three of us were surprised at how smoothly that conversion went, four, five issues I guess identified for them resolved within no time. One that was something that took a little bit longer to resolve, but definitely a very smooth conversion for the customer. Customer is thrilled. We have our second beta customer in line right now and then we'll do two more in January and once we get through those four beta customers then we'll start to get conversions lined up after that. But so far it's gone very smoothly. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. And remember, Brett, the timing of this is actually and if you remember when we talked about this at the Analyst Day you know this is a two and a half year process to get all these customers migrated over. So, as Dave said we should be through betas by the end of January. Starting sometime in mid to late February, we will start the mass movement of our customers. We're planning to move somewhere between 60 to 80 at a time. But right at 1,000 customers, it's just going to take a while to do that because you can't do them all the same time. So, it's really going to be once we get started, it's going to be about an 18 month, maybe a little longer project, to get all of our existing customers migrated. And starting in April, we will start putting new customers on this new platform and our first card customers, credit card customers.

Brett Huff - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Great. That's what I needed. Thanks for the detail, guys. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: You bet.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Kartik Mehta of Northcoast Research. Your line is open.

Kartik Mehta - Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open

Hey, Kevin, if I could just get your view on this PSCU partnership; you talked about the conversion and time line. Can you just talk about the cost and savings associated with eventually converting those customers over to the PSCU, First Data platform and how it impacts Jack Henry? Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Well, the, like we said from the very beginning, this is going to put a little headwind especially on our margins because as we start migrating these customers over obviously we will have the transaction fees that we'll be paying PSCU and then they will pay whatever their agreement is with FDC for the actual process and transactions. But at the same time, we still have two main mainframes with backup mainframes for the two existing systems that we have to continue to support and enhance. We still have all of our developers continuing to enhance the code for our existing customers, which we have to keep those in place, continue to take care of our customers, continue to protect our customers until we get all those migrated off. Now, once we get them migrated off, then obviously there will be a big reduction in cost because we won't need for maintenance and support and maintenance that goes along with them and the facility costs, and everything else. So, there's going to be some margin pressure but by the time we get the last customer over, our margins will effectively be higher than they are today.

Kartik Mehta - Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open

I know you talked about organic growth in the second quarter and kind of based on the backlog that Dave talked about, how would you anticipate organic growth trending through the year? Do you think you'll be similar in the second half of the year or do you think there's any changes based on maybe installation backlog or how you see some customers coming off? Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: No. I think our organic growth is pretty solid for the year. I think it's going to stay right in line with what we talked about for the second quarter, Kartik. The card business represents about 20% of our revenue and the biggest growth drivers we have right now, was in this quarter was our core business without, even with, considering without the deconversion fees, and that continues to do extremely well. As Dave said, we signed 12 new core customer takeaways in Q1. I think and, Dave, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think our sales pipeline is as big as it's ever been in the history of the company. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: That's correct. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: With the last years that we have. So, I'm feeling pretty, pretty good about the rest of the year, Kartik.

Kartik Mehta - Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open

And then, Kevin, just one last question. Obviously, the balance sheet's in great shape. And I was just wondering, from an acquisition standpoint, have you seen anything in the marketplace that piques your interest or do you think it's more about right now return capital to shareholders? Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Well, I mean, we would love to find the right acquisition. We continue to kick the tires, Kartik. I mean, we hope that the right one will come along shortly because we would love to deploy our capital that way. But obviously, it's been a while since we've found a sizable one and the Vanguard, as Dave mentioned, fit in very nicely and it just kind of with the Bayside acquisition that we did before that, the Banno acquisition was small but very extremely strategic for us going forward. So, we'll continue to look at those and we'll continue to look for sizable ones that could move the needle. But at the same time we will continue to effectively return capital to our stockholders by continuing the quarterly dividend and increasing it and we'll continue to evaluate stock buybacks.

Kartik Mehta - Northcoast Research Partners LLC

Analyst · Northcoast Research. Your line is open

Thank you very much. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yes. Thanks, Kartik.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Dave Koning of Baird. Your line is open. David J. Koning - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc.: Hey, guys. Thanks. So, I guess I wanted to just review three topics that all three, the big core processes. All of you have talked about, or most of you have talked about, term fees being down, lending being strong, and I think both you and Fiserv made acquisitions there and EMV being down. I think that doesn't really matter as much for you guys. But, why are term fees down and why is lending such a strong place right now that you guys are making acquisitions in. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: I think, let me address the last part first, as far as lending is concerned, and this is Dave, David. So, what we've identified with our customers is a real need. On the banking side in particular but also on the credit union side now, there's a real desire and need to grow in the commercial space. So, you saw us roll out the treasury management solution. That was 100% geared toward helping our banking customers serve their commercial customers. Same thing is true on the lending side. The focus that we've had is on commercial lending. So, this Vanguard acquisition, although it is definitely not a needle mover as far as revenue is concerned, is very strategic because it filled the last remaining hole that we had to produce an end-to-end online commercial lending solution that allows our banks to compete with the OnDecks and the Kabbages and all those folks that are out there trying to grab commercial borrowers away from our bank. So, to enable the banks to compete and grow, many of them are putting a…

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Tim Willi of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Charles J. Nabhan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Hi. Good morning. This is Charles Nabhan calling in for Tim. Just had a quick follow-up on the PSCU partnership. You alluded to expense runway of about 18 months. And just wanted to get a sense for how to think about that from, if I heard you correctly, wanted to get a sense for when to think about – when we could anticipate the headwind to margins turning into a tailwind? You talked about expenses dropping off and just want to get a better understanding of the timing of that. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: I would tell you right now because we are still in the planning process, to get the conversions all lined out, and at this point we don't really know exactly how many we will able to convert at a time. So, it's kind of a rough estimate. But what we think that by two years from this December, so December 2020, we should have all of our customers migrated, be able to cut all the costs out and starting in Q3 of that year, fiscal Q3 our margins should go up nicely.

Charles J. Nabhan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Okay. Great. Thank you. And as a follow-up, could you talk about the pipeline and what customer demand looks like for the new treasury and cash management products? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Sure. So, again we just completed our annual client conference. So, we had a great opportunity to not only showcase the solution but to have customers who are up and running live now talk about the solution. So, we have four customers that are live with treasury management. One of them actually spoke, the CIO for the bank spoke, at the conference and shared with our customers the impact that they were having. So, pipeline looks strong. Now the thing I've mentioned on previous calls and I'll just say it again treasury management is a solution designed for larger institutions who are serving very large commercial customers. So, this isn't something that you're going to sell to 1000 or 2000 banks. This is something that will be sold only to the largest banks in our family. But given that, demand is strong and we're very happy with where that position – that product is positioned today.

Charles J. Nabhan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Great. Thank you for the color. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Sure Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. I think the other part of that, the cash management solution, that is for all of the smaller banks that don't go for that. And that is going extremely well too. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. We distinguish between treasury management and cash management. So, treasury management is the new solution that we've talked about a lot. We just put the press release out, all that kind of stuff. That's for the largest banks, the largest clients. As Kevin points out, cash management is the lower end solution. We revamped that. We've had that for several years, revamped that and have assigned a number of new customers on that solution. It's a smaller solution, not as big a ticket price, but that has received a very solid reception from our customers as well.

Charles J. Nabhan - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open

Great. Thank you. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: You bet.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Glenn Greene of Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Glenn Greene - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.: Thanks. Good morning. I apologize if some of this has been talked about because I jumped on the call a little bit late. But maybe, Dave, could you talk about the sales activity across the three brands, thinking Banking, Symitar, ProfitStars? It sounded like in aggregate you were above quota. But could you maybe parse across the three big brands? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: I can tell you – I don't know that I can quote where every one of them finished for the quarter, but I can tell you all three of the brands finished ahead of quarter – ahead of quota for the quarter. So, sales in both banking, specifically around core and credit union, our on core, we're strong in the quarter. The ProfitStars group, of course, having a much wider variety of solutions. The Payments groups, I think, did particularly well in the quarter for the ProfitStars groups. But the other groups including our Gladiator team which sells our H&S solution, and the other teams all had a solid quarter. So, all I can say in specific is, every one of them finished ahead of quota for the quarter. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. And I also add that all of our sales folks are extremely excited about all the new products we have. And I think they feel like they have about as many new toys to sell as they've ever had in the history of the company. Glenn Greene - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.: Okay. And then, Kevin, so I don't think any of us have rejiggered our models on the new segment thing.…

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from David Togut of Evercore. Your line is open.

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Good morning. This is Rayna Kumar for David Togut. Can you talk a little bit about the puts and takes for the payment segment topline growth, maybe just break out bill pay, transactions, debit and credit card processing? And then if you can just talk about your outlook for the remainder of the year and long term for payments specifically. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: So, you're talking about revenue growth, Rayna, you said puts and takes. So, I'm trying to figure out what the take would be. But you're talking about revenue growth in those areas?

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Revenue growth. Correct. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. Okay. So for the card business excluding deconversion fees, roughly 3% year-over-year revenue growth. For the bill pay business, roughly 10% year-over-year. And for the other piece of our payments business is what we refer to as enterprise payments which is remote deposit capture, ACH origination, those types of things, it's about 7% year-over-year in that area.

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

And how should we think about payments growth overall topline in the midterm? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: As far as percentage growth?

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Yes. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: So, I think we've talked in the past about 4% to 5% overall being a good sustainable number for us and I think that's still true, unless, Kevin, you want to add anything to that comment. But, I think that's still reasonable. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: No, I think at this point, Rayna, the 4% to 5% is a good guide out there. Obviously, with the new platform coming up, that some of the new opportunities, because we had never sold credit cards before. So, could that go up a little bit once we get the new platform rolled out and get all the products, maybe. But I don't want to be building that in right now. So, let's just go with the 4% to 5% at this point.

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Could you provide us a rough timeline of when you think you can ramp up the credit card processing business? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Well, we're starting to sell the credit card already. In fact, we signed our first deal yesterday, literally yesterday, first credit card deal. So our team is already out there selling. We know that there's demand among our customers. That's what prompted us to do this in the first place. The question is, as you talk to individual customers, what contract do they have in place already, what type of timeline for them as far as terminating their current contract to move to something else, is it organic or bluefield or greenfield for them to sign up with us as a new provider. So, I don't know that I'm comfortable projecting at this point how fast that's going to ramp. But we see a good bit of demand, and we have a lot of conversations going now with our sales team and our customers. But as I mentioned, we've only signed one customer so far, so we kind of got to get a little farther into this before we can really discuss how that'll ramp.

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Got it. That's really helpful. And just lastly, could you just discuss any major product investments you're making and revamps? Like, what's next in the pipeline with investments? David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: I don't know that there's another one that I'm prepared to talk about today as the next investment. We still have, so Treasury Management for example, we rolled out, but it was Phase 1. We still have Phase 2 of Treasury Management that'll come out in early calendar 2018. So, we still have a very big focus on Treasury Management. Our Enterprise Risk Mitigation solution, the partnership with SAS. We've just rolled that out as we indicated in a recent press release. But we still have another version of that that we have to come. Our Biller Direct solution, our final major release for Biller Direct will happen in about halfway through next calendar year. So, most of what we're doing right now is kind of finishing the big projects that we've been working on including Episys. So, we've talked in the past about the fact that we've had this Episys database project going on. We've been rolling out incremental releases for the last three years to our customers. That will wrap up in calendar year 2018. So, we're not trying to put another big deal into the funnel right now. It's really finishing out all these big projects that we've had going on including by the way, Banno. I shouldn't have left Banno out. So the complete digital experience for our customers including mobile and online, that will do the first big online installs in, starting in January, February timeframe. So, mostly it's focused on getting all these things through the pipe that we have right now. Obviously there are other things that we're putting through the review process to see what goes in the pipe after that. But we've got to finish a lot of these projects that we have going on right now. Kevin D. Williams - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Yeah. And, for example the Enterprise Risk Mitigation solution that Dave mentioned, I mean, what we have in beta now is the first module, and I think there is a total of five modules. So, there's four more yet to be developed that are in some phase of the process right now. But that's probably a two-year process to get all of those completely developed and rolled out. So, we've got a lot of things going on. We've got a lot of really cool new solutions out there with a whole lot more to come.

Rayna Kumar - Evercore Group LLC

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This is ends the Q&A portion of today's conference. I'd like to turn the call over to management for any closing remarks. David B. Foss - Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.: Thanks, Tyrone. Again, we're pleased with the results from our ongoing operations and the efforts that all of our associates that take care of our customers. Our executives, managers, and all our associates continue to focus on what is best for our customers and shareholders. Thank you again for joining us this morning. And with that, Tyrone, would you please provide the playback number.

Operator

Operator

Sure. Ladies and gentlemen this conference will be available for replay after 11:45 AM today through November 16, 11:59 PM Eastern time. You may access the remote replay system at any time by dialing 1-855-859-2056 and entering the access code 9503829. International participants dial 404-537-3406. Those numbers again are 1-855-859-2056 and 404-537-3406. Access code is 9503829. That concludes our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect at this time.