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John B. Sanfilippo & Son, Inc. (JBSS)

Q4 2013 Earnings Call· Fri, Aug 23, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the John B. Sanfilippo & Son, Incorporated, Fourth Quarter and Fiscal 2013 Year-End Operating Results Conference Call. My name is SheQuanna, and I will be your coordinator for today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr. Michael Valentine, Chief Financial Officer. Please proceed, sir.

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Thank you, SheQuanna. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our 2013 Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year Earnings Conference Call. Thank you for joining us today. On the call with me today is Jeffrey Sanfilippo, our CEO, who is currently traveling and is calling in. Before we get started, we want to remind everyone that we may make some forward-looking statements today. These statements are based on our current expectations and involve certain risks and uncertainties that are inherent in our business. The factors that could negatively impact results are explained in the various SEC filings that we have made, including Forms 10-K and 10-Q. We encourage you to refer to these filings to learn more about the -- these risks and uncertainties. I'll start the call by covering the financial highlights for the fourth quarter and fiscal year. The current quarter net sales increased by 6.4% to $177.4 million compared to net sales of $166.7 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2012. The increase in net sales in the quarterly comparison came mainly from a 16.4% increase in sales volume, which is measured in pounds sold to customers. Sales volume increased in all distribution channels and for all major product types, except walnuts which remained relatively unchanged in the quarterly comparison. Approximately 50% of the sales volume increase occurred in our consumer distribution channel. The increase in this channel came primarily from increased distribution of Fisher and private brand snack nut products and the favorable impact of lower selling prices on consumer demand. The increase in sales volume in the commercial ingredients distribution channel was attributable primarily to increased sales of peanut and pecan products due to lower selling prices, and increased almond sales as a result of distribution gains achieved by a major existing customer in that channel.…

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. Good morning, everyone. I'm very proud of the results for our fourth quarter and 2013 fiscal year. We achieved record net sales, as Mike mentioned, of $734.3 million and a significant improvement in net income over fiscal 2012. This improvement is noteworthy since we have generated 2 consecutive strong years with earnings over $1 per share for the first time in 8 years. Sales dollars and volume both increased by 4% to 5% for fiscal 2013 over fiscal 2012. Our Fisher brand is the clear #2 brand in recipe nuts domestically, and we have narrowed the gap to the market leader. We have also gained distribution for our Fisher snack brand and grew the private brands of key retail partners. During the fourth quarter, we saw meaningful increases in Orchard Valley Harvest sales volume and sales dollars compared to the same period last fiscal year. In addition, we gained sales volume in our commercial ingredients and contract packaging channels due to the growth initiatives of our customers in these important channels. On the manufacturing side, the company initiated several operational excellence initiatives this past year, and I want to recognize the strong efforts and results of our plant and production teams. They focused on improving efficiencies and driving costs out of the supply chain. The increases in gross profit margin and gross profit were primarily due to manufacturing efficiency improvements achieved in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2013 and increased sales volume. I was also pleased that our financial performance allowed us to pay $1 per share special dividend to our stockholders during the fiscal year in Q2. I want to thank our management team and all our employees for their commitment to the company's success. Our recent financial performance has allowed us to devote more resources…

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Okay, thanks, Jeff. At this time, we will open the call to questions from participants. SheQuanna, can you please queue up the first question?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Luke Jeremiah [ph] with LKL [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I'm a little curious on the walnuts. I guess I would have expected more strength there. Can you kind of just talk about what's going on in that market and what you're seeing?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Jeff, do you want to take that one?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

It -- for Fisher specifically, or just overall category?

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Overall category.

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Yes. So we saw some price increases on walnuts in the marketplace. There's been a lot of export demand for walnuts this year, so it's been a little bit challenging on building walnut distribution gains when you've got so much competition for raw material going into exports. Plus, the other commodities, we're very competitive from a pricing standpoint. So in the best B [ph] nut, in category, you'll see some switch from walnuts to almonds and other commodities.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Sorry, so the walnut supply is the tough part?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

It's -- well, it's a combination of promotional activity. When prices get higher for some retail nut types, you'll see consumers switch from, say, walnuts, as an example, to almonds for a recipe. And so when you -- so then you had increases in pricing for walnuts this year. You would see a little bit of switching to other nut types away from walnuts.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

And then on the supply side, in terms of, I guess, getting your hands on raw materials and finding suppliers and how many buyers are out there, what are you seeing there?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Correct. So there's some increase in export demand for walnuts, but really, the big piece was, if you look at the average retail prices for walnuts in the U.S., it increased 7.9% in dollars, went from an average of $7.24 a pound to $7.81. So you saw an increase in walnut pricing, whereas you saw decreases in average retail prices of pecans. Almond average retail price went down 17%. So walnuts, it became a more expensive item for recipe nuts, so -- and that's potentially where we see a shift in some of the volume.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay, all right. And I guess, what are the -- you'd put walnuts, almonds and pecans kind of in that shifting category between each other on what people end up buying based on price. Or are there -- is it all nuts?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Correct. Yes, I would use those as the 3 main ingredients in the U.S. You've got some pine nuts there, you've got macadamias. Peanut consumption for nut toppings actually grew as well, a little bit. That's a combination of different types, but the main ones are walnuts, pecans and almonds.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Christopher Robertson representing Cardinal Capital.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

I wanted to talk a little bit about the promotional activity and get a better sense for how much of the timing that you discussed in the press release and conference call around whether it was building the baseball season or -- I forgot what the other one was. How much of that is driving the sort of near-term results versus what your expectations would be more on a normalized year-over-year type number? And how sticky, do you think, the sales with the promotion can be?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Jeff, do you want to take that one?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Sure. So what we did was we've reallocated some of our resources. We did a lot of promotions in prior years in the sports snack area, Super Bowl promotions, a lot of spring type of baseball promotions. We shifted some of those resources in promotional funds to our recipe brand, really focused on Easter holidays. There's a big increase in consumption during Easter for baking, cooking. And so we just shifted some of those funds away from the snack piece more towards supporting the recipe nut program. I would say that it should be a consistent trend going forward. We will continue to invest in our snack brand, but we really -- a lot of our resources are focused on building the recipe nut program focusing around holidays, Christmas, Thanksgiving and then the Easter time period.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And as far as the stickiness, is it too early to tell whether you feel like competition has increased in terms of other players being promotional as well?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

I would say we're going to -- we expect to see additional promotional levels from our competitors as well. I don't know if it would be any different from what we've seen this past year, I think that's their call. It's hard for me to comment on that.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

But you haven't seen it yet in the marketplace in a meaningful way.

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Correct.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

Okay. And as far as the -- sorry, go ahead. As far as the walnuts go, I feel like we covered that. The only thing I'd want to add is, does it feel like that marketplace, x the export portion of it, has normalized relative to the disruption that your primary competitor's been going through?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

When you say normalized, normalized from a consumption supply standpoint, or consumption demand...

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

No more the -- before it gets to the retail side of it, just where growers are going and -- or does it still feel like the market's a bit turbulent?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Yes, I wouldn't say the market's turbulent. Really, it's mother nature determines how much crop we get each year. I will say, we'll -- we expect to see an increase in demand internationally for walnuts, just it's a growing popular nut type. But really, it's going to be up to mother nature and then walnut growers, hopefully planning additional acreage for walnuts, to continue with the demand.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And you feel like your share there is pretty stable, or can you grow that more?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

I -- we feel it's stable. Obviously, if there -- if we had more access to walnuts, we believe that we could continue to grow that segment of our business.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And if we could just jump over to the comments around manufacturing efficiency. Is there any way you can quantify that, maybe what inning do you think we are there? Or is that sort of driven by pricing and, therefore, the volume that you can push through?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

It's a combination -- yes, go ahead, Mike.

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Okay, I'll take that one. As Jeff mentioned, we started that initiative in the fourth quarter, so it's a little too soon to say how sustainable that can be, or even to quantify it. But it did have a meaningful impact in our fourth quarter results.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And is it the kind of thing that you can continue to see that playing out at least over the next 12 months or remaining 3 quarters from when you started it?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Yes, well, it's an ongoing effort. And it's pretty much an introduction of lean manufacturing techniques, so it will take some time to get that ingrained in the culture in our manufacturing operations. But it's been well received by the people in our plants, so we think it should continue on.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And definitely appreciate the special dividend that you did earlier in the year. Is that sort of your preferred method of distributing excess capital? Or do you see the opportunity for acquisitions or share repurchase?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Everything is on the table, but first and foremost is how many financial resources we dedicate to our nut purchases, and that's -- can be driven by price and quantities available. So until that's determined, we can't really say where we're going to -- what we're going to do with the excess after that, if there is even any.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And as far as the international side of the distribution, how capital intensive is that? And how -- I guess it sounds like the supply of nuts is really your biggest constraint there. How do you see that playing out over the next handful of years?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Jeff do you want to take that one?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

This is Jeffrey -- sure, sure. So emerging markets, we believe, are great growth opportunities. As I mentioned, international sales right now is only 5% of our total volume. We see great opportunities in places like China. So the capital expense is not dramatic right now, it's really just building a distribution base, a sales force, some marketing expertise in-country; and then building our distribution of Fisher brand. I would say, long term, potentially if we were to start manufacturing in China, then you would see a ramp-up in some capital investment. But short term, it's really just building that infrastructure from a sales and marketing standpoint.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And the comment about the major customer selling more, how much additional opportunities do you see like that? And how much of that is in your control versus you're just distributing the nuts to them when they see those kind of gains?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

We see...

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

I'll take that one, Jeff. There were -- we referenced 2 major customers. The one in the commercial ingredients channel, that's really 100% their efforts determine how that volume changes. In the contract packaging channel, we do collaborate with a major customer there by offering innovation and other sorts of support, so we do play a minor role in that respect.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

And is that somewhat driven by the price of the nuts at the time for their ability to sell more? Or is it sort of the innovation is driving their ability to ultimately find those avenues?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Well, it's combination of both because the innovation, in many cases, could be somewhat opportunistic based on the prices of nuts. So in other words, the innovation tends to gravitate towards lower-priced products versus higher-priced products.

Christopher W. Robertson - Cardinal Capital Management, L.L.C.

Analyst

Okay. I guess the only other question I had, and I appreciate the time, is around the innovation side of the fence. We've seen a lot of opportunity because of lower-cost nuts driving sales. How much do you think innovation can really grow things, regardless of the underlying pricing of the raw materials?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

This is Jeffrey. We're seeing, not a renewed interest, because there's always been an interest in health and wellness. We think innovation can help bring healthy products to market just giving it a different taste profile, different flavor. So I think there's innovation from a flavor standpoint that is still growing. The other piece of it is the packaging side. There's -- a nut is a nut, so we've got to bring additional not only flavors but unique packaging, unique delivery mechanisms to consumers. And we think there's a lot of new technology in the packaging side, both from a material standpoint and from a manufacturing standpoint, that could bring fresh, new ideas to the category. So we believe innovation is still a critical area of opportunity for growth.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Patrick [ph] Morri [ph] representing Milwaukee Private Wealth Management.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

Mike, well done in managing your balance sheet, particularly your debt reduction. What are your plans going forward for balance sheet management?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Well, as far as the long-term debt goes, it's scheduled. And prepayment penalties are pretty considerable, especially on the tranche A mortgage, so there's not much we can do there. The other piece of the long-term debt, the smaller piece, is securing that original ultra site [ph] property we have. And that really is kind of subject to whether that property sells or not.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

And I assume that's the for-sale asset on your balance sheet.

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

That's correct.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

Jeffrey, with respect to the rollout of product through Kroger, how would you qualify that in satisfying your expectations?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

We look at it from -- obviously, the new distribution is critical gaining more distribution points, some more products on the shelf, more stores carrying our product. We also are looking at the velocity, how many items are turning every week. And I would say all 3 metrics are meeting our expectations.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

Great, glad to hear that. And Mike, this might be back to you. With regard to your gross margin, it looks like 16% might be roughly your steady state. Would it be reasonable for me to assume that in the future? Or is there really gross margin expansion opportunity?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Jeff, a lot of it is going to depend on sales volume. We believe we can continue these manufacturing efficiency efforts to help that, but sales volume is very critical in respect not only to gross profit dollars but also to that margin.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

All right. And Jeff, last question for you would be, can you give us an update on changes in personnel over the last year and how that has impacted the business?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

Sure. So we've no changes in our consumer channel. We've changed a little bit of our commercial ingredient channel. We have our VP who is retiring in December, so we've brought a new gentleman on from -- has great food service experience, named Steve Chester. He just joined the company the last month or so. And so he will be taking on the role of overseeing our commercial ingredient department. He brings a lot of marketing expertise with him, and more operator-driven type of programs. So we see very good opportunities to build more value in the commercial ingredient channel. The international channel, we have a new gentleman running that division, comes from Brown-Forman, great branded experience, helped launched several of their brands in China. So we've got much higher level of talent and brand management in and across the channels. So very excited, very happy with the leadership team in the different sales divisions.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

Is the increased compensation expense that you referenced in your release related to the hiring of these 2 individuals? Or is there something more to the compensation change?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

I'll have that, Jeff. A lot of that is just due to improved operating results and its impact on incentive compensation.

Jeffrey Richart Geygan - Milwaukee Private Wealth Management, Inc.

Analyst

Will this be disclosed in the proxy and look something like last year?

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

You have a question from the line of Bruce Windler [ph].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I think I understand the things that you're doing with your strategy to influence 2014. What would you think is the 2 or 3 most important things that are out of your control that you're looking for that will influence 2014?

Jeffrey T. Sanfilippo

Analyst

This is Jeffrey. So from the sales side, obviously, we don't have a crystal ball on what our competitors are going to do. We've got great competitors in our industry across our channels, so that's something that's not out of our control if they increase their promotional spending, cut prices, do things different in the market than they've done. And the second big thing from a sales standpoint is the -- what supply we have available, what types of things that we're going to have available to promote and continue to grow our brands. So those will be the 2 things. In the international piece, third, I guess, would be just fluctuations in demand overseas. Right now, we continue to see it grow. It used to be double digit, it's now a high-single-digit growth, but we still anticipate great opportunities there. But again, we don't control that.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Michael Valentine for closing remarks.

Michael J. Valentine

Analyst

Okay, thank you, SheQuanna. At this time, that ends our Fourth Quarter 2013 and Fiscal Year 2013 Conference Call. We thank everyone for their interest in JBSS, and we wish you all a good day. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. And have a great day.