JetBlue Airways Corporation (JBLU) Q2 2022 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Good morning. My name is Cody and I would like to welcome everyone to the JetBlue Airways Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today’s call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to JetBlue’s Director of Investor Relations, Joe Caiado. Please go ahead, Joe.

Thanks, Cody. Good morning, everyone and thanks for joining us for our second quarter 2022 earnings call. This morning, we issued our earnings release and a presentation that we will reference during this call. All of those documents are available on our website at investor.jetblue.com and have been filed with the SEC. In New York to discuss our results are Robin Hayes, our Chief Executive Officer; Joanna Geraghty, our President and Chief Operating Officer; Ursula Hurley, our Chief Financial Officer. And also joining us for Q&A are Dave Clark, Head of Revenue and Planning; and Andres Barry, President of JetBlue Travel Products. This morning’s call includes forward-looking statements about future events. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. Please refer to our most recent earnings release and our most recent Form 10-Q or 10-K for a more detailed discussion of the factors that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking statements, including among others, the COVID-19 pandemic, fuel availability and pricing, the outcome of the lawsuit filed by the DOJ related to our Northeast Alliance, the occurrence of any circumstances that could give rise to the right of JetBlue or Spirit Airlines or both to terminate the merger agreement, failure to obtain applicable regulatory or Spirit’s stockholder approval in a timely manner or otherwise and the potential financial consequences thereof, failure to satisfy other closing conditions or failure of the parties to consummate the proposed transaction and the possibility that JetBlue maybe unable to achieve expected synergies and operating efficiencies within the expected timeframes or at all and to successfully integrate Spirit’s operations with those of JetBlue. The statements made during this call are made only as of the date of this call and we undertake no obligation to update the information. Investors should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. Also during the course of our call, we may discuss several non-GAAP financial measures. For a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to GAAP measures, please refer to the tables at the end of our earnings release, a copy of which is available on our website. And now, I’d like to turn the call over to Robin Hayes, JetBlue’s CEO.

Thanks, Joe. Good morning, everyone and thanks for joining us today. I’d like to start with my thanks to our more than 24,000 crew members for their tremendous work and dedication to delivering the award-winning JetBlue Experience to our customers as we marked some significant milestones in our recovery this summer. This morning, we reported a record breaking absolute revenue results for the second quarter and we are on pace to top it again here in the third quarter and drive our first quarterly profit since the start of the pandemic. Turning to Slide 5. Before we dig into our financial results and outlook, I’d like to take a moment to discuss our recently announced agreement to acquire Spirit. I am very pleased we found the path forward with Spirit and we can’t wait to welcome the incredible 10,000 team members to JetBlue as we create a true national, low-fare high-quality challenger to the dominant Big Four airlines. Together, we will expand our uniquely disruptive combination of award-winning service and competitive low fares to more customers across the country as we combine the best of both airlines. You have heard me say it before this transaction turbocharges our strategic growth plan. It will diversify and expand our network for customers, create new jobs and opportunities for crew members and expand our foundation for profitable growth, unlocking sustained long-term value for all of our stakeholders. We remain highly confident in our ability to obtain regulatory approval no later than the first half of 2024. We expect the transaction to be accretive to EPS in the first full year following closing and to deliver $600 million to $700 million in annual net synergies once integration is complete. You can find more information about this transaction and the many stakeholder benefits on our website. We are thrilled about this unique long-term opportunity, but we also recognize that we are still some time away from closing. And even as we begin early work on integration planning, we remain focused on running the standalone business in the interim and we also continue to execute on our organic initiatives. Returning to sustained profitability, Slide 5. With that, we are here today to discuss earnings and I’d like to start with our quarterly reports on Slide 6. For the second quarter, we reported an adjusted loss per share of $0.47. As you will recall, we had some operational challenges earlier in the spring, which drove a sizable reset to our full year growth plan and a number of investments to ensure we could operate reliably during this exceptionally busy summer season. I am proud to say that our operational performance improved significantly throughout the quarter and we capitalize on the strong demand environment to deliver record revenue growth at the top-end of our original guidance range and a record quarterly revenue result for JetBlue. We were profitable in the month of June on an adjusted basis, entering the third quarter with solid momentum as we expect the carry-forward through to sustained profitability. I am pleased to see record demand to travel with JetBlue and the solid underlying momentum in our recovery as we work to build an even better JetBlue for our stakeholders. Moving now to Slide 7. With high fuel prices and our short-term operational investments are weighing on our margins this summer, we are making steady underlying progress on our long-term initiatives to structurally improve our profitability and enhance our long-term earnings power. Our network is foundational to our success and we continue to strengthen relevance this year, primarily through our Northeast Alliance with American Airlines, or the NEA. The NEA will be a significant margin builder for JetBlue by allowing us to grow in New York and Boston, our two largest focus cities and offering more value to all customers in the region. Together with American Airlines, we have created a robust competition with industry-leading network depth and breadth and more combined daily departures than Delta and United. The NEA continues to scale nicely on its multiyear path to steady state as we build our connectivity, enhanced loyalty benefits and a seamless customer experience. Across the pond, I am delighted to say that we have secured permanent slots at London Heathrow starting at the end of October, the culmination of some great work together with our airport and government partners. In addition, we are excited to expand our award-winning transatlantic service to our second largest focus city with the launch of service from Boston this week, further strengthening our relevance in the Northeast. And with the addition of a third frequency between JFK in London in October, we’ll be operating 5 daily flights between the Northeast and London this fall. More customers were engaging with JetBlue than ever before as we continue to see double-digit growth in our loyalty business, fueled by the NEA and the strength of our brand preference as we generate record cash flows from the program. And back in 2018, we shared with you a vision for our new JetBlue Travel Products subsidiary, with an audacious goal of contributing $100 million in EBIT by 2022. And despite all of the challenges of the last 24 months, we are on track to deliver close to that target this year. Last month, just in time for the busy travel – summer travel period, the JTP team rolled out a revamped website and additional inventory to Paisly by JetBlue, a travel website that we launched just over a year ago and offers customers a one-stop shopping platform to conveniently purchase ancillary travel products relevant to their trip, all backed by JetBlue’s great customer service. Earlier this year, when we reset our medium-term capacity plan to reflect the industry’s constraints, we highlighted some potential mitigating actions to right-size our footprint for this new reality. Today, we announced a further acceleration of our 190 transition with our fleet modernization efforts poised to accelerate not only our margin expansion, but our path to reducing emissions. And Ursula will walk you through our new structural cost program, which will set a new foundation for our long-term, low cost structure. Finally, our responsibility to mitigate climate risk is a core part of our mission and we remain steadfast in leading the industry in our efforts. We have recently announced our commitment to work with the Science-Based Targets initiative to set a near-term emissions reduction target for our airline operations. In addition to our sustainability efforts, we remain committed by fostering diversity and we are proud to say that underrepresented groups represent over 60% and 90% of students enrolled in our Gateway Select and Gateway Direct programs respectively, which are industry leading career development programs that allow crew members and external applicants to pursue a path to become a pilot or maintenance technician at JetBlue. Once again, I’d like to thank our passionate crew members for caring for our customers each other and JetBlue. With the foundation we put in place and the many exciting initiatives we have underway, I have never been more excited about our long-term cost outlook – our long-term outlook, which will only be enhanced by our acquisition of Spirit. With that, over to you, Joanna.

Great. Thank you, Robin. I’d also like to add my thanks to our great team. Earlier this year, we made a number of operational decisions to better set us up for the summer. And while the summer has not been without its challenges, these investments are providing relief and we are pleased that our completion factor is now back above 98%. We would like to thank our team as we know it has been a particularly challenging operating environment. I’d also like to thank our industry partners at the FAA for their continued support and importantly, their transparency as we all work to bring flying back to the level and quality of the pre-pandemic environment. Turning to capacity on Slide 9. As Robin mentioned, we actually began moderating our capacity plans back in March. And following a challenging few weeks in April, we moved quickly to reset our full year growth plan. The reality is that almost no airline has been immune to operational challenges this year as the industry quickly ramped back up and it’s clear that what we experienced has now been felt by all of our peers. Frankly, it just hit us earlier given our network footprint. And therefore, we were able to reset earlier. On our last call, we announced we were taking decisive action to reduce our full year capacity plan by 10 points to build greater resiliency into the operation. And today, we are tightening that capacity range. In fact, the incremental investments for the summer partially delayed in anticipated productivity benefit into the fourth quarter. As an example, in June, we had 16% more active pilots, but 8% fewer block hours compared with 2019. We are also carrying elevated reserve levels. As we move beyond the peak summer, we expect some of these investments will gradually normalize as the broader aviation ecosystem stabilizes and we ramp utilization back up. That said we firmly believe that this level of investment and a more conservative operational planning philosophy was necessary to ensure that we can reliably deliver for our customers and crew members, especially as external factors continue to make for a challenging operating environment during this busy summer season. As noted, we closed May and June with a completion factor above 98% compared to approximately 90% during the first 3 weeks of April. As a result, when we provided our Q2 investor update in late May, we were the only airline to guide up capacity on a better May completion factor, while others were enacting further schedule reductions. And in our congested geography, where more than two-thirds of our flights touched the Northeast, we had a higher completion factor than our peers in May and in June. With this said, we do continue to see challenges beyond what we can control with continued difficult weather events on the East Coast and meaningful ATC constraints as they too face some of the same staffing challenges as most other businesses. To address this and build in a degree of resilience, we will continue to plan appropriate levels of reserve crews in the context of a more fragile national aviation system and one that is likely to remain so for the near to medium-term. We continue to work collaboratively with the FAA to better understand their constraints, improve transparency and ensure we are set up to deliver for the flying public. For the second quarter of 2022, our capacity increased 2.3% year over 3 with strong completion factor trends. For the third quarter, we expect capacity to be negative 3% to flat year over 3. We believe the sequential step down in capacity in Q3, consistent with the revised capacity plan we announced back in April, is the right move to set us up for success this quarter. And for the full year 2022, we are tightening our forecast for capacity to grow between 0% and 3% versus 2019. During the second quarter, we continued our international expansion, the startup service to our first Canadian Blue City, Vancouver, marking another milestone in JetBlue’s history in making us the only airline to offer non-stop flights from JFK. And as Robin mentioned, we are boosting transatlantic service even more this quarter with new daily service between Boston and both Gatwick and Heathrow as well as a third frequency between JFK in London in October. We are obviously very pleased to see the CDC follow the science and remove inbound testing requirements for international arrivals into the U.S., finally eliminating a cumbersome hurdle to the industry’s continued recovery and driving further improvement in international demand, particularly in our Caribbean network, where trends were already strong. On the other hand, we were disappointed to see the Canadian government reinstate the random testing regime, which we believe is a step in the wrong direction, but also serves as a reminder of the ever evolving landscape of pandemic recovery. Domestically, we have fully consolidated our LaGuardia operations to Terminal B earlier this month. In the fall, we are relocating to the brand-new South Terminal C in Orlando as the anchor tenant. And in the fourth quarter, we also plan to move into Newark’s new Terminal A. We are excited to welcome our customers in these world class terminals and provide them with an enhanced airport experience and a more seamless travel journey with JetBlue. And of course, operationally, we are looking forward to the improved efficiencies that come with the limiting split terminal operations at La Guardia. As we have smoothed out and de-risked our return to growth this year, we are setting a strong foundation for the network to deliver sustained profitability as we build out our relevance. As always, we will remain nimble and adept as needed to the broader macro environment, making decisions through the lens of margin. Turning to Slide 10. During the second quarter, our revenue increased 16.1% year over 3, better than the high-end of our initial outlook as a result of robust demand across the network with a record number of customers and we expect load factors to remain in the high 80s through the summer. Our ancillary revenue per customer grew 65% in the second quarter to well over $50 per customer and we are pleased with the success of our segmentation strategy, with a broad product portfolio that offers great value and choice for all customers. For the third quarter, we expect unit revenue to increase between 19% and 23% to the highest level in our history, as strong demand combined with a tight supply backdrop helped offset the high price of fuel. Revenue is tracking well to help deliver a profitable quarter and early bookings keep us cautiously optimistic about the fall. As Robin mentioned, we are solidly executing across a number of commercial initiatives. On the network front, we are making good progress in ramping up our margin accretive Northeast Alliance with American Airlines. And while the industry has yet to return capacity to 2019 levels, the NEA is growing well in excess of the U.S. market. We have added over 50 new routes not previously served by either carrier and increased frequencies on another 130. Collectively, with American Airlines, we are now offering more departures out of New York than Delta and United. This growth is delivering tremendous consumer benefits as we offer more customers our award-winning combination of low fares and great service, while eliciting a strong competitive response from other carriers, such as Delta’s substantial growth at Boston and United additions at Newark as well as new service between Boston and London. Through the NEA, JetBlue is able to serve a broader set of customers, including business travelers, flight to more markets and create thousands of jobs in the process. Business travel also continues to recover nicely, with Q2 contracted corporate bookings improving 10 points sequentially as we move closer to pre-pandemic levels. The Northeast Alliance positions us well to capitalize on the continued business travel recovery as we expand our share of the corporate travel wallet in the region with a compelling network, schedule and service offering as well as reciprocity across our loyalty programs. Turning to loyalty and co-brand, the value proposition of our TrueBlue loyalty program continues to resonate extremely well with our customers with program engagement at all-time highs and I am pleased to see yet another record quarter of program growth with spend growth that continues to consistently and meaningfully exceed pre-pandemic levels, up over 40% year over 3. This is an area with ample runway for growth and our team continues to find new ways to add further value as we evolve the programs and enhance this resilient cash flow stream. The short-term investments we made in the operation have positioned us well to reliably deliver the JetBlue Experience as we capitalize on the strong demand environment, while our strategic initiatives fuel our profitable growth over the long-term. I will close with another thanks to our crew members. We know it’s been a long summer and we are very appreciative of how you have taken care of our customers and importantly, one another. I will turn the call over to you, Ursula.

Thank you, Joanna. I’d also like to thank our incredible crew members for their commitment and hard work to ensure that we deliver for our customers, our fellow crew members and our owners as we lay the foundation to build back our margins beyond pre-pandemic levels and create sustainable long-term value for all of our stakeholders. I will start on Slide 12 with a brief overview of our financial results for the quarter. Revenue was a record $2.4 billion, up 16.1% year over 3. Cost per available seat mile was up 34.7% year over 3. CASM, excluding fuel and special items, was up 14.5% year over 3. And our GAAP loss per share was $0.58 and adjusted loss per share was $0.47. I am very pleased with the team’s execution this quarter to position us to return to sustained profitability in the back half of the year. Despite the operational headwinds in April, the subsequent operational investments we made and the sharp rise in fuel prices throughout the quarter, we exited Q2 with an adjusted pre-tax profit for the month of June and we look forward to carrying this momentum into Q3 and beyond. Turning to Slide 13, during the second quarter, CASM ex-fuel increased 14.5% versus 2019, below our original guidance, driven by efficiencies tied to a better operation. As you have heard, the reliability investments we made for this summer are yielding much improved operational results and have helped to derisk this summer, but they are weighing on our margin recovery. For the third quarter, we are forecasting CASM ex-fuel to increase 15% to 17%. We do expect this heightened investment to ease once we get beyond the summer peak. As a result, we expect to see some productivity improvement in the fourth quarter and into 2023. We are also tightening our forecast for full year 2022 CASM ex-fuel to increase in the range of 11% to 14% versus 2019 from prior guidance of 10% to 15%. As a reminder, this includes 6 points from the capacity reductions announced back in April, a total of 3 points from the spring operational challenges and the investments we are making for the summer and 1 point from inflationary pressures from pilots and our business partners. Turning to Slide 14. On our last call, we mentioned that we had engaged some outside experts to conduct a thorough review of our costs to help us identify the optimal long-term cost structure for JetBlue as we emerge from the pandemic. The result of that work is the new structural cost program that I am pleased to share with you today. Just prior to the pandemic, we concluded our first structural cost program, which successfully removed over $300 million of cost and was centered largely around sourcing contracts, distribution and implementing self-service technology and rationalizing other fixed costs. That program drove an industry-leading CASM ex performance in 2019, and we were on track to execute a zero to 1% CASM ex CAGR from 2018 to 2020. Fast forward to today, and while we are still benefiting from our first structural cost program, we’re embarking on a new plan to keep our costs low as part of our continuous focus on this area of our business. This new program focuses on cross-functional costs and is more about gaining operational and planning efficiencies. This past quarter, we announced the creation of a new enterprise planning team, which will play a critical role in unlocking these structural efficiencies across the airline longer term, some of which we have already begun implementing successfully. For example, Joanna mentioned that we are currently staffed at much higher levels of flying activity and we have strategically invested in reserves as part of our more conservative summer planning. But at the same time, we’re actually seeing big improvements in planning productivity and reductions in pilot soft time. And these are exactly the types of underlying efficiencies that will carry forward and ramp beyond the summer while utilization also improves. We’re also investing in automation across the business, especially in support of end-of-life maintenance planning given that we are now in a position where we are retiring aircraft for the first time. Specifically, we are investing in software that optimizes when to swap or remove engines to maximize utilization before retirement, thereby reducing total system-wide cost of engine ownership. The expected new structural cost program to deliver run-rate cost savings of approximately $175 million by the end of 2024, with half of these savings expected by the end of 2023. This will help to mitigate any medium-term CASM headwinds and support our objective of a flat or better CASM ex trajectory over a multiyear period fueling our margin expansion beyond pre-pandemic levels. You’ll also recall that earlier this year, we exercised and accelerated 30 A220 options in order to exit our E190 fleet by 2026. Today, we announced a further acceleration of our E190 retirement, pulling it forward by over a year to mid-2025 and as we further optimize our fleet planning and maintenance spend. As part of this acceleration, we’ve already parked three E190 aircraft and plan to fit an additional nine for a total of 12 E190 exits this year. We expect to save at least $75 million in maintenance expense through 2024 and will benefit from reallocating flying to much more CASM-efficient A220s, which have 30% lower direct operating costs and 35% better fuel efficiency. Our fleet modernization plans will not only improve our margins, but also accelerate our decarbonization journey. In total, the structural cost program and the accelerated E190 retirements will drive approximately $250 million of cost savings through 2024, with $150 million to $200 million of that, representing a permanent run rate cost reduction. Turning to the balance sheet on Slide 15. In the second quarter, we paid down approximately $106 million of debt, and we funded approximately $205 million in capital expenditures. For the full year 2022, our CapEx forecast remains at approximately $1 billion. At the end of June, our adjusted debt to cap was 54%, and we closed the quarter with liquidity of $2.6 billion or 32% of 2019 revenue, excluding our revolving credit facility. As we think about our proposed acquisition of Spirit, it’s important to remember that JetBlue’s relative balance sheet strength is the key enabler of this transaction. Post closing, we continue to expect that JetBlue would maintain a strong balance sheet with pro forma net leverage of approximately 3x to 3.5x, which we believe to be a very manageable level that still compares favorably to the peer group. A strong balance sheet is foundational to JetBlue’s strategy and the strong earnings accretion and cash flow profile of the combined business will allow us to quickly de-lever the balance sheet as we integrate. To close, we recognize there is a lot of work ahead, but through the strong underlying momentum in the business and the continued execution of our various strategic initiatives from the Northeast Alliance to the evolution of our loyalty program to scaling JetBlue Travel Products, and now, our new structural cost program as well we are setting a foundation to structurally improve our long-term earnings potential beyond pre-pandemic levels. I’m also very excited to welcome Spirit team members to JetBlue as we create the number five carrier in the U.S. and unleash a national low-fare challenger to the Big Four. I’d like to once again express my sincere thanks to our crew members for their tiers efforts in helping to build a better JetBlue for all of our stakeholders. With that, we will now take your questions.

Thanks, everyone. Cody, we’re now ready for the question-and-answer session with the analysts. Please go ahead with the instructions.

Absolutely. [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question. Caller, please go ahead.

This is Duane Pfennigwerth from Evercore ISI. Just on the timing of the debt raise to support the Spirit acquisition. How do you think about the timing of that? Are there sort of regulatory hurdles you want to clear before that happens and if you could comment at all on estimated cost of capital on that debt raise?

Good morning, Duane, so we currently have a 364-day bridge facility in place for $3.5 billion. We envision that staying in place until we receive regulatory approval. And then once we receive regulatory approval, we will then take out that bridge. We will assess the various markets at that point in time and focus on all-in cost of funding, and we will determine appropriately which assets and which markets to utilize in order to take out that bridge. The cost of debt in regards to the bridge at the moment is around 6%. Given the time frame in which the bridge stays in place, there are some step-up fees along the way. So that could slightly increase depending on the length of the regulatory approval. Obviously, the cost of debt when we take out the bridge facility, that could be the end of next year or early 2024. So the financing markets at that point in time could look very different than what they look like today. But you should envision us playing a keen focus on all-in cost of funding when we take it out.

Thanks. And then just for my second, there was a competitor where an extension of basically credit balances impacted revenue trends or their outlook for the third quarter. And then going through that post that call it looks like JetBlue does have some policies of sort of COVID credits that expire at the end of September. Can you comment on how many points of revenue growth or how many points of revenue are from credit balance breakage?

Duane, this is Dave Clark. I can take that one. Regarding the credits since the pandemic began, we’ve seen a higher cancellation rate and thus more credits being issued. This is especially too early in the pandemic when customers were canceling the flights in pretty high numbers. And we’ve been forecasting usage rates of the credits and recognizing increased breakage revenue since Q3 of 2020, so this is 2 years into the process for us. It’s a relatively smooth ramp for us with no large lump sort of as we go up or down. The highest breakage revenue recognition was actually the past three quarters from Q4 of ‘21 and to Q2 of ‘22, and we’re starting to normalize right now. And this is all sort of fairly low numbers, low single digits on the way up. And it will normalize at a higher rate than it was because customer cancellation behavior has changed with the removal of most change cancel fees. So on the way down, it’s roughly a 1 point headwind, but all pretty smooth and low numbers for us.

Thanks. And just to put a finer point, that 1 point headwind would be like a 4Q relative to 3Q? Is that the right way to think about it or next year versus this year?

Correct. Think starting 4Q and throughout the first few quarters of 2023.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you. We will now move on to our next question. Caller, please go ahead.

It’s Savi Syth from Raymond James. I’m just kind of curious, keeping CASM ex flattish versus kind of 2020, which, let’s say, it’s around 12.5% above 2019 on kind of mid to high single digits, that seems a little bit disappointing given that in 2020 you were supposed to have a step-down because of the first structural cost program. And you have had some kind of one-time items this year. So could you talk about what’s the incremental costs you’re seeing in 2023 that requires a new program to kind of maintain this flattish level?

Sure. Thanks for the question, Savi. So maybe just to walk forward, so the midpoint of our guide this year is 12.5%. If you take out the spring disruption costs as well as the summer investments, you get down to an underlying CASM ex of 8.5% for 2022. So next year, if you think about us growing capacity mid- to high single digits next year, that’s historically what we said is the sweet spot. You would expect us to drive, to your point, a flattish CASM ex-fuel. However, we have also highlighted that we do have some headwinds next year, one of those being we will have a small incremental impact due to the NEA. And this is really because we moved into new terminal space in La Guardia this year as well as Newark. So you’ll have the full year effect of that increase in 2023. We also have an aging fleet. So we’ve highlighted that we have a level of maintenance investment that will need to take place. And then we also have some in-flight rate increases from our new contracts that are effective in January as well. So essentially, [Technical Difficulty] our structural cost program that we rolled out today is going to help offset those headwinds. And essentially, we intend to deliver a flattish, if not better, CASM ex fuel next year.

That’s super helpful. Thank you. And can I just ask on the capacity to kind of start going back to that mid to high single-digit growth level, especially step up from third quarter to fourth quarter, what you can expecting on the resource side or expect on the operations side that’s going you confidence – you can kind of meet that level? I know you mentioned that – it sounds like the pilot soft times are coming down. But I’m just kind of curious, given the issues that the industry has been having on kind of restoring capacity, where the confidence comes from for the fourth quarter and beyond?

Yes. Thanks, Savi. I’ll take that. It’s Joanna. So we’re confident with the investments that we’ve made into the summer that we’re now in a position where we are ramped up to handle that level of capacity. We teased out some of the investments we made with pilots and additional reserves. We expect to continue some of those investments as we move forward just to ensure a level of operational reliability. Yes, there are some shorter-term summer investments that will peel off, but there is some, given the more fragile aviation ecosystem, that will stay. And we will continue to invest there. And we feel that we’re adequately staffed to handle that capacity adjustment. Obviously, the talent landscape is challenging, but the underlying infrastructure to support all of that, whether it’s training, hiring is fully ramped, and we feel good about that.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you. We will take our next question. Caller, please go ahead.

It’s Scott Group from Wolfe Research. So I just want to clarify just one thing on that CASM point about flattish. Are you talking – are you guys guiding flattish versus the up 12.5% this year or versus what you tried to talk about the more normalized underlying plus 8% for this year?

Yes, Scott. So it’s against the 12.5% midpoint of our 2022 guide.

Okay. Okay. Perfect. Okay. I just want to clarify. Can you guys share some color on the monthly sort of TRASM trajectory throughout second quarter and as you look out throughout third quarter? And Robin, I know you had some, I don’t know, cautious or maybe uncertain comments around fall and what business travel could look like. Any updated thoughts or color there?

Hey, maybe I will take that and flip it to Dave to give you some color, additional color. So as we think about Q2 into Q3, we are seeing many of the same trends that were present in Q2 carry into Q3, ultimately broad strength across most of our geographies. Transcon actually outperformed most of the geographies. And then as we look at VFR and international, the removal of the inbound testing requirements provided some nice lift there. Domestic Mint is also significantly performing. If you look at load factors, we’re back to 2019 levels, and then fares and yields for Q2 both above 2019 levels. So we’re pleased with what we’re seeing. Obviously, cautiously optimistic about the fall and seeing these trends carry into the fall. Dave, you want to add any color?

Sure. Thanks, Joanna. And this is Dave. As you mentioned, the trends continue. We’ve actually been remarkably steady throughout the quarter, ramped up really well during Q2 and then just more or less plateaued and stayed relatively flat as we move through the third quarter with the leisure bookings that we’ve taken so far into September and October remaining very strong and indicating that leisure travel should be resilient through the fall. And then in terms of corporate, corporate continues to progress. We progressed about 10 points in the recovery during the second quarter. We’ve seen that continue here for the first month of the third. We expect to see another step up in the fall driven by continued return to work after Labor Day, and there is certainly high traveler willingness to be on the road. We see that in the surveys and with all of our discussions with corporate customers. So we think the recovery will continue as we head through the fall.

Okay, thanks you, guys for the time.

Thank you. We will now take our next question.

Hi, good morning. It’s Jamie Baker at JPMorgan. Robin, we didn’t speak last week, so I did want to offer my congratulations on getting the deal announced. A question on the regulatory process. A second data request has already been made. You disclosed that. What happens from here? I mean, in the case of Alaska Virgin, they pushed back their closing date to give them more time to work with Justice, which essentially disclosed the fact that they were talking. Do you envision providing color in this regard? Are you even permitted to do so? Would a third data request be disclosed, for example? I’m just trying to think through how to monitor from the outside?

No. Thanks, Jamie, and I appreciate the comments and the thoughts about getting the Spirit transaction closed. We’re extremely pleased with that. I think we have laid out a – on the regulatory front, right through this process. I think we’ve laid out a sense that we expected this to take a fair amount of time. Obviously, we’re not in control of the time line although we are active participants in the process. And we’re going to continue to engage with both DOJ and DOT as well as we work through the process. Jamie, I don’t know at this point what will exactly say and when. I do obviously understand people want to know where we are in the process. But equally, I think it’s a process that is going to take some time, and we want to be respectful of the regulators’ view and rights to review this transaction.

Okay. That’s fair. Thanks, Robin. And second, how do you think a U.S. recession plays out for JetBlue? As a public company, you’ve only experienced a single downturn, so not a huge history to call on. But that’s exactly why I’m interested in asking the question. Thanks.

Thanks, I’m going to ask Joanna to pick that.

Hi, Jamie. How are you? So you mentioned our history. So if you take a look at how we performed during the 2008, 2009 cycle, we actually performed better in ‘09 versus ‘08. Obviously, a lot has changed. Hopefully, we don’t see a recession. But if we do, we have taken a hard look at our business model and its resilience during what we believe could happen. And we have changed quite a bit since then, I think for the good in terms of building additional resilience in. we have continued to evolve our customer segmentation strategy. As you know, premium leisure tends to be more resilient during economic downturns. We now have our Mint product, which we did not have back in the ‘08, ‘09 crisis. We also carry a higher mix of VFR traffic, which also tends to be resilient. And we saw this as – even in the face of the pandemic when there were barriers to travel, this customer segment continued to fly to see their friends and family. And then as you think about segments potentially choosing to go down sort of the segmentation ladder, the introduction of our price-sensitive product, Blue Basic, is also, I think bodes well for us. And then finally, ancillary revenue, this has only grown over the last decade. And this tends to be much stickier during the recession. So, we do think there are inherent advantages in our business model. But we also recognize that recessions bring about a lot of change and not just on the demand side, but also it could include lower input costs as well. That said, as you think about the levers that we have to pull, capacity, we have demonstrated, I think all airlines have demonstrated their ability to book full capacity in a challenging environment. And so we could slow our growth rate and obviously right-size to the demand environment. Labor, that continues to be an opportunity as we think about what JetBlue was able to accomplish during COVID with voluntary programs and crew members taking advantage of those. And then, obviously, our fleet. We do have an aging fleet, so there could be opportunities to retire aircraft early. So, again, inherent advantages in our business model we think will serve us well during a recession. But not looking at that through rose-colored glasses and recognizing that we do have these additional levers in our toolkit that we could pull if we needed to do.

You have obviously put a lot of time and thought into it. Thank you, Joanna. Appreciate it. Take care.

We will now move on to our next question.

Okay. Good morning everyone. Mike Linenberg, Deutsche Bank. Robin, just a follow-up on Jamie’s question. Obviously, it is going to be – it seems like it’s going to be a long regulatory process. But what can you do before you have gotten the full approval? Can you initiate code-sharing, frequent flyer reciprocity? Can your fleet people talk to their fleet people? I know that there are things that you can do, some of them may need DOT approval. Can you just talk about maybe some of the things that you could do or planning to do in the near-term?

Yes. Hi. Michael, yes, no, thanks for the question. Obviously, many airlines have been through this many times. So, we have a lot to learn from what others have done. And yes, it is true. There are a small number of things that you are able to sort of talk about in that period. But we are going to take a very cautious approach to that. We are going to follow our legal advice and make sure that we are doing nothing to jeopardize to close the transaction or to give concern to our regulators who are reviewing it. And so I think work is all underway in terms of some of the internal planning that we do. Right now, our focus in addition to obviously the regulatory process, which is underway, is to make sure we get the shareholder approval – Spirit shareholder approval for the transaction.

What is the data that, Robin? Have you come out with a date on the Spirit shareholder?

No. My best estimate, Michael, is sort of 60 days to 90 days, and we have to get the proxy completed with Spirit, then we have to see if there is any SEC comments on that. And then it’s got to – we have got to publish a meeting date. So, don’t have the exact date yet, but we will know more on that soon.

Okay, great. And then just my second question, Joanna, getting from a 90% completion factor to 98%, obviously a step in the right direction. But I suspect 98% is not still where you want to be, probably 99.2%, 99.3%. You did call out operational challenges for not just you, but the industry in the near and medium-term. What – how do we get to 99% plus? Do we get there by year-end? Is that a 2023 phenomenon? Every point of completion factor is probably the old saw was worth a point of margin, and I am not sure if that’s still applicable to you or not. But it does seem like there is some upside there, but it may take some time, if you can comment on that? Thank you. Thanks for...

Yes, sure. Obviously, weather and then continued ATC disruptions are what will stand in the way of improving completion factor. I will say we are nearing historical levels. And so I think we are really pleased with where we are now. The teams have done a really nice job. But at the end of the day, weather and ATC challenges continue to be sort of the impediment to getting it up above 98%.

Yes. Michael, let me just add to that. If we take July, Joanna mentioned this, but if we were to take our completion factor in July 2022 and compare it with 2019, it is extremely close. I mean I think it’s like 0.2% away. So, I think the biggest driver of completion factor during the summer period is just the amount of ATC programs that are getting put in place, primarily those are weather-connected. So, on a good day here, we will have a completion factor, I hope of as close to 100% as we can. But because of the jobs here in the Northeast and just number of ATC programs that we see on a day when you sort of a three-hour to four-hour ground delay program is pushed into New York, you are going to see the industry with a completion factor somewhere probably between 90% to 95%. And so when you average those, you kind of get to that sort of 98%, 99% summer completion factor, which I think means that we are basically completing every – almost every flight other than those that are directly impacted by an ATC program or weather.

Okay. Great for the details. Thanks everyone.

Thank you. We will then move on to our next question.

Okay. Good morning. Dan McKenzie from Seaport here. A couple of things. It’s great to see the messaging that reiterates the prior objective of achieving the same or better margins versus pre-pandemic levels. The growth in cost commentary is helpful. On the balance sheet side, it looks like the plan is for lower leverage on the standalone and/or merger scenario. And on this point, are there free cash flow targets that you can share once back to normalized levels of profitability?

Good morning Dan. Good to hear from you. So, we did highlight that post transaction, we expect to end up at 3x to 3.5x of leverage, which is below the median within the industry. Obviously, the joint combined company, we intend to generate meaningful cash flow right out of the gate. And so the focus will be on de-levering the balance sheet to get it back to an even more acceptable level to JetBlue based on our historical performance and the way in which we manage the balance sheet. So, we do believe that, that could be a fairly quick de-levering exercise once the two combined companies come together. What I will say is the synergies obviously ramp up over a multi-period timeframe. So, it will take us a few years. But the goal, obviously, will be, as I mentioned, to get even lower than the 3x to 3.5x.

Understood. On the corporate trends, I am wondering if you can just put a finer point on some of the prior Q&A questions. I guess with respect to the operational challenges, to what extent did they impact the corporate trends in the second quarter? Is there an impact on corporate demand heading into third quarter? So, I am just trying to get a better read on what’s behind the revenue outlook. And is there some pent-up corporate demand here? And when can the volumes and revenue really surpass 2019 levels?

Thanks Dan for the question. This is Dave. We saw just a little pressure, I would say at the beginning of the second quarter, more of a blip as we had the difficult first half of April slightly on the corporate side, some on the leisure side as well. But as we move through the second quarter and improved and got back towards our targets and at or above where our peers were, any of that has dissipated away. We have seen corporate sentiment continued to rebound as the operation has improved. And it’s clear that corporates are the travelers themselves, the individuals already get on the road, all the surveys show that. As return to office continues, that will help enable more trips. Certainly, corporate customers are excited to get back in front of their customers and to do face-to-face revenue-generating meetings as well as some internal work and conference work that’s been suspended for the last couple of years. So, a lot of different pieces there. The NEA is really helping to add more options for these customers in the Northeast. As our seamlessness continues to ramp up, we have seen increasingly positive sentiment from our corporate customers. And about two-thirds of them now have the NEA code-share benefits in their corporate contracts. So, things continue to improve. We don’t have a final date yet on when we will reach fully recovered. This trend, we are probably looking late this year or over the winter, but we will see how that progresses and it could happen sooner.

Thanks for the time guys.

Thank you. We will now move on to our next question.

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. This is Chris Stathoulopoulos, Susquehanna Financial Group. So, Ursula, or Robin, I just want to dig into this – the buckets here, you have outlined on Slide 14. The range of these numbers here, are these independent of the high-single digit ASM guide you put out, meaning if we are in a recessionary scenario and that high-single digit is perhaps 4 to 5, can you still hit these targets? And then b, how much of this, because the maintenance piece was in tech ops, if I remember, was a big focus in the last plan. So, how much of this is sort of identified during the pandemic versus a natural evolution of the plan that you envisioned as you were coming – exiting 2019?

Thanks for the question, Chris. So, first and foremost, half of the program that we have laid out is tied to enterprise planning. So, when I think of network and crew planning, we are essentially redesigning our processes to improve operability, which should result in improved cost performance. And the way in which our network has evolved given COVID, it’s the pertinent time to actually ensure that we are iterating past performance and identifying, quite frankly, the optimal intersection between network operability and quality of life for our crew. So, the ranges take into consideration the capacity growth. In regards to end-of-life maintenance optimization, the structural cost program 1.0 that we delivered on, that was really focused in tech ops on airframe and engine contracts. This program is putting technology in place to optimize, quite frankly, end-of-life retirements for aircraft and engines. This program also is focused for maintenance on operational improvements, so given how the network has evolved, having the right tools, parts and processes in place to deliver from an operability perspective. And so from a maintenance perspective, these initiatives are very different than the first structural cost program. So, all-in-all to summarize that, we feel confident in delivering the $150 million to $200 million in structural cost savings by the end of 2024 and the ranges do take into account a small capacity range.

Okay. And the flattish – my follow-up CASM ex guide through 2024, that is on a guessing on a sustained high-single digit ASM base, does that – just remind us if that includes any labor deals? And on that high-single digit ASM base, if you could any color you could break out in terms of how you are thinking about gauge, stage lengths or new markets or building out depth of schedules? Just want to understand the buildup into that ASM guide? Thank you.

So, we are technically not providing 2023 and 2024 capacity guidance. However, historically, we have provided those guardrails around mid to high-single digits being the sweet spot for JetBlue in delivering superior margins. So, that’s how I would think about the next few years. Actually, forget the second part of…

Labor.

Oh, labor. Yes. I am not going to comment on labor at this point in time. We are in discussions with our pilots, but I am not going to comment on that today. Over to you, David, any color on stage and gauge over the coming years?

Sure. I think we will see roughly what we are seeing today. Obviously, with the retirement of the E190s and bringing in the A320s, there is a bit of a gauge increase that’s well known as part of that. But in general, we will see the same sort of trends that we have had for the last couple of years.

Thank you.

Thank you. We will now take our next question.

Hi team. It’s Helane Becker from Cowen. Thank you for the time. So, just on the question of moving later, I guess did you say later this winter-fall into a new Terminal A at Newark and then new operations or new terminal at Orlando. As you think about the cost of doing that versus the benefits, can you just talk about, I don’t know, whether it’s a cost savings that you would experience with those two or maybe include La Guardia in there airports, of those three airports?

Yes. So, thanks for the question, Helane. Obviously, moving into new terminals will have an impact on the cost structure. However, we are growing in high-value geographies. So, we expect the margin production to heavily offset the infrastructure investments that are taking place. Dave – it is an enhanced customer experience for our customers, and so there are benefits there. Dave, anything else to add?

Sure. Thanks, Ursula. And hi Helane, this is Dave. In addition to the superior customer experience, there are some efficiencies as well. I think in La Guardia Terminal B, we are reducing from two terminals that we are operating before down to one. That creates efficiencies. We are also co-locating with American, which provides the efficiencies in terms of customer connections within the Northeast Alliance. So, we feel really good about that one. New York has also been a real challenge in the old terminal. There wasn’t enough space, security room, hold room space. We are pushing departures across multiple terminals as well. So, there is a lot of efficiency in just getting the customer experience to an acceptable level and then to a very good level that we are excited about there. So, certainly some benefits that come with simplifying operations into one terminal across various cities.

Thanks for that. And then just for a follow-up question on – as you think about – Ursula, since you mentioned geographies and operating in high-value geographies. Is there a way for you over maybe the next year or 3 years to move some of that capacity to other geographies that maybe are less impacted by air traffic control?

Hey Helane, this is Joanna. I will take it and then Robin, I am sure, wants to chime in. So, as you look about the Spirit transaction, that’s in part what it is about, is the ability to grow more quickly and diversify our network outside of the Northeast. If you look at the divestitures that we put out there, it’s really keeping the Northeast growth kind of in line with where it is today and growing outside of that geography. I think the piece I will point out is New York has historically been a great sort of margin-building engine for JetBlue, and it’s not fully recovered yet. And so as you think about potential upside even in the Northeast geographies, New York is one of those places where whether it’s moving to the new terminal in Newark or LaGuardia, these are long-term investments. By the way, Newark, they are tearing it down. So, there is not an option there. But these are investments we think are more than appropriate given where New York has historically been and where we think it’s going to return to over the medium-term.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Thank you. And we will take our final question. Please go ahead.

Hi. It’s James Hollins from BNP Paribas. Just my first question, just on staffing levels. It looks like they have probably take just above 20,000. I am just wondering if that’s kind of the right number through the rest of ‘22? And maybe what the – where you would expect to be in 2023 as you look to grow what sounds like mid to high-single digit. Thank you.

Yes. I think the staffing number is around 24,000. Though I will say, roughly in line, I mean at this point, we are really hiring for just that sort of mid-single digit growth. And so part of what you saw from kind of 2020, ‘21 through today was really ramping up. We also obviously have had some elevated levels of attrition, so we will continue to hire there. But it’s largely backfilling and then just small incremental growth associated with our capacity growth.

Thanks again. And I expect I know the answer to this, but does your Atlantic strategy changed at all with the Spirit deal being landed and also in mind of the ramp-up in Heathrow costs? Thanks.

No, it’s unchanged. I mean our – as we think about Europe, it’s really flying to the markets in Europe that are most important to New York and Boston, so for example, London and others to follow. We are really looking at the Spirit transaction to help grow our footprint outside of the Northeast. To Helane’s point, we like our Northeast geography. It’s very important that JetBlue stays relevant in these markets in order to drive long-term margin success. As Joanna mentioned, despite the very strong revenue guide into New York is still ramping up. We added a lot of capacity over the summer. And as we all know, as you add that, it takes some time to ramp up. So, I think good legs on that still. And whilst Heathrow cost increases have gone up, it is a very small part of our network. And as we add Boston, it will be two departures and arrivals a day, and so sort of de minimis really in terms of the overall impact.

Appreciate it. Great. Thanks Robin.

James, go ahead, did you have a follow-up?

No, that was it.

Great. Well, that’s going to conclude our conference call for today. So, thank you so much for joining us, and have a great day.

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