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Invesco Ltd. (IVZ) Q2 2026 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

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Invesco Ltd. (IVZ)

Q2 2026 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 28, 2026

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Invesco Ltd. Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Invesco Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session. At that time to ask a question, you may press star one. This call will last one hour. To allow more participants to ask questions, one question and a follow-up can be submitted per participant. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. Now I will turn the call over to Greg Ketron, Invesco's Head of Investor Relations.

Greg Ketron

Operator

Okay. Thanks, operator, and to everyone joining us today. In addition to the press release, we have provided a presentation that covers the topics we plan to address on the call. The press release and presentation are available on our website, invesco.com. This information can be found by going to the Investor Relations section of the website. Our presentation today will include forward-looking statements and certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please review the disclosures on Slide 2 as well as the appendix for the appropriate reconciliations to GAAP. Finally, Invesco is not responsible for the accuracy of our earnings transcripts provided by third parties. The only authorized webcasts are located on our website. Andrew Schlossberg, President and CEO, and Allison Dukes, Chief Financial Officer, will present our results this morning, and then we will open up the call for questions. I will now turn the call over to Andrew.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

All right. Thanks, Gregory, and good morning to everyone. I am pleased to be speaking with you all today. We have built significant momentum thus far in 2026, as we continue to execute against our strategic priorities. Year-to-date, we posted record net inflows of $67 billion or a 7% annualized organic growth rate and generated record net revenue with an increase of 17% over the same period last year. Our broad product suite and global reach is resonating with clients, as they seek to navigate an ever-more complex market environment. Our increasingly scaled platform and disciplined approach to expense management gives us significant operating leverage. We increased operating income by 35% in the first half of this year and we expanded our operating margin by nearly 470 basis points as compared to the same period last year, reaching 37.5% in the second quarter. Further, we grew our bottom line by nearly 60% in the first half of 2026. As compared to the first half of last year. This is a testament to the hard work that our colleagues across Invesco have been doing over the past several quarters to streamline our business, drive profitability and margin expansion, and strengthen our balance sheet. As highlighted on slide 3, we are innovating for our clients clarifying and simplifying our organization and, as a result, we are delivering for our shareholders. Product line management and innovation are key to our growth and are critical in remaining relevant to our clients. As such, we have made several additions and advancements in areas where there is significant demand. Like ETFs, SMAs, model portfolios, and private assets. We have launched more than 50 products this year, across the Americas, EMEA and APAC. This includes 6 new active ETF launches and a new partnership with Superstate, where we are now the manager of our first tokenized treasury strategy. Another way we are innovating for our clients is through partnerships. Our Barings and LGT Capital private market partnerships are designed to help us accelerate growth in the high-opportunity U.S. private wealth and defined contribution markets. We completed our first product initiatives with Barings at the beginning of this year and we look forward to sharing more details on additional product launches with each firm later this year. We have also established partnerships in India and Canada that have allowed us to redefine our positions in these markets from full ownership to minority status and as a sub-adviser respectively. While aligning with strong local financial institutions. These changes have resulted in greater firm-wide focus, reduced operating expenses, increased leverage of our global investment platform, created balance sheet benefits and enhanced revenue opportunities. To this end, during the second quarter, we successfully completed CI's acquisition of our Canadian products, and we have commenced our long-term strategic partnership with them where we are now sub-advising funds with approximately $9 billion in AUM. Another clear indicator of the innovation aptitude at Invesco was the successful conversion late last year of the QQQ fund. In the first half of 2026, the QQQs generated an incremental $130 million in net revenues for Invesco, its AUM grew 20% and it produced strong organic net flow growth in the second quarter. We have significant opportunities. To continue to expand this flagship competitively advantaged product not only here in the United States, where the traction is incredibly strong, but also in other international markets. The QQQ is now cross-listed on both the Hong Kong and Tokyo Stock Exchanges with over $10 billion of AUM raised in a short period of time. Examples like these are indicators of the strength of the multidecade QQQ brand that is recognized around the world for its innovation. We see several avenues to continue to expand QQQ's client base our innovation suite in general, and our wider $1.25 trillion ETF complex. Beyond these and other strategic efforts, we have continued to make progress on our balance sheet recapitalization. We have significantly improved our leverage ratio over the last year from 2.7x to 1.9x inclusive of the outstanding preferred shares. We have also increased our common share buybacks by 80% year to date versus the first 6 months of last year. Importantly, we have done this while continuing to invest in the business and reduce debt including the outstanding preferred shares. Allison will speak more about these efforts later in the call. We will also update you on our transformational hybrid investment platform implementation which is another strategically important priority that will yield benefits across our organization and for our clients. As we discussed on previous calls, our strategy continues to prioritize opportunities at the intersection of market size, and secular change. Where Invesco is uniquely positioned to selectively drive growth across regions, channels, and asset classes. We continue to execute with discipline, allocate capital and resources accordingly and improve performance. So moving on to slide 4, I will discuss how our efforts drove record net long-term inflows in the second quarter. The advantages of our broad increasingly scaled diversified global platform were evident again this quarter. Markets were supportive, driven by strong equity appreciation and improving fixed income returns. Resulting in investor capital remaining in motion across the industry. Albeit more narrowly focused and mindful of ongoing macroeconomic and policy uncertainty. Clients continue to entrust Invesco with significant new capital across our global product set. Net long-term inflows during the period were a record $45.1 billion marking the 12th straight quarter of net inflows and representing annualized organic growth of nearly 9%. Additionally, we generated $13.2 billion in global liquidity inflows. Ending the period with $215 billion in AUM. Altogether, we reached an AUM high-water mark of $2.5 trillion. Importantly, we continue to be encouraged by the breadth of our overall growth. We had solid positive flows across several dimensions including in many of our strategically important investment capabilities. Across each of our three regions and in both our active and passive strategies. The breadth of our inflows was also demonstrated by the fact that over 30 of our products generated more than $500 million in net inflows during the quarter. The Asia Pacific and EMEA regions again produced very strong net inflows. With 10% and nearly 7% annualized organic growth, respectively. Additionally, on a gross sales basis, we had our highest volume quarter for actively managed funds. With all of this as a macro backdrop, I would like to spend a few minutes highlighting growth drivers in each of our investment capabilities. Starting with our ETF and index offering, where we continue to meaningfully scale and diversify our platform to meet evolving client demand. AUM for these funds stood at a record $753 billion or nearly $1.25 trillion when including the QQQ. We also had a record $30 billion of net inflows during the quarter, with 17% annualized organic growth. Within our ETF range, we garnered net inflows across a diverse set of products, led by our QQQ innovation suite and our quality and momentum equity factor funds. Raised a record $7 billion of net inflows in the second quarter. It is also notable that nearly a third of our net inflows generated in the EMEA region, where we continue to see strong demand for our ETF range. We remain focused on innovation in the ETF space, During the quarter, we expanded our BulletShares lineup with seven new fund launches in the United States, in addition to launching five ETFs in the EMEA region including two new active funds. We have built a robust ETF platform globally, which continues to grow as demand has accelerated for high-quality differentiated strategies. We currently manage $25 billion in active ETFs across more than 40 products, and the AUM base increases more than $40 billion when including index strategies that are executed by our active investment teams. Our QQQ fund also attracted strong interest in the second quarter with $14 billion in net inflows or 12% annualized organic growth. This reflects our competitively advantaged position supported by a very large and broad institutional and retail investor base. that is with unmatched liquidity with tight spreads and deep options and derivative markets built over multiple decades for this flagship product. So moving on to fundamental fixed income, demand for our products remained robust. While we report on this slide net inflows of a modest $400 million for the quarter. When you widen the scope to include the fixed income flows from our ETF and China JV, it expands our overall asset class net long-term inflows to $14 billion during the quarter, or 11% annualized organic growth. This growth was broad with inflows from each of our regions from both the retail and institutional channels and across both active and passive products. Two drivers of fundamental fixed income flows were demand for individual SMAs from U.S. wealth management clients and overall institutional fixed income demand in EMEA, where we recorded net inflows of nearly $2 billion for the quarter. Our entire U.S. wealth management SMA platform which also includes a portion of equity assets, now stands at nearly $40 billion in AUM. We have one of the fastest growing SMA offerings in the market generating an annualized organic growth of 23% this quarter. The strong results once again indicate that we are well positioned to capture fixed income money in motion by meeting client needs across the credit, and duration spectrum geographic preferences, and active and passive exposures. Moving on to our China JV, our growth continues to be underpinned by our scale. And the improving macro stability in this market. We reached a record high AUM of $163 billion, a 15% increase over the prior quarter. Net long-term inflows were $6.9 billion, delivering a 22% annualized organic growth rate. Net inflows were driven by our fixed income and our fixed income plus strategies, which, as you recall, are a form of balanced funds. The continued growth in our domestic Chinese business is supported by a diversified product line with various style offerings which allows us to adapt to changing client needs in different market environments. To further support growth in our business. We launched 11 new funds this quarter which collectively generated $1.2 billion in net inflows. These funds align with the growing demand for innovation balance and equity strategies. We continue to be well positioned as the Chinese asset management market develops and evolves in both the individual investor and retirement sectors. Shifting to private markets, where we posted $1.9 billion of net inflows across our alternative credit and direct real estate offerings. In credit, we saw a return to demand for our industry-leading bank loan ETF, BKLN. This growth was also augmented by net inflows into our CLO products. Despite near-term volatility, and heightened headline risks, credit fundamentals remain broadly intact and spillover risks into the structured loan space have been limited. We continue to see strong demand for private credit solutions from institutional investors on a global basis and the current environment has not changed our long-term expansion plans in the retirement and wealth management channels. We have a favorable position with dry powder, diversification, and extensive experience. For managers with our discipline, continued volatility may ultimately prove to be an opportunity. Our private real estate capabilities also recorded positive net inflows of $1.4 billion or an annualized organic growth rate of 8% this quarter. These results were led by INCREF, which is our real estate debt fund for U.S. wealth management clients, which continues to gain scale and assets. Including leverage, it is now totaling over $6 billion. This fund was launched only a few years back and it is yet another example of our deep investment talent, product innovation, and strong distribution teams collectively driving growth. We are excited about the prospects across our private markets business. Organic growth opportunities are amplified by our partnerships with Barings and LGT Capital to further penetrate the wealth management and defined contribution market. Moving on to our multi-asset capability where we had modest net outflows for the quarter. Continued inflows in our systematic equity offerings were offset by outflows from balanced risk allocation strategies which remain out of favor. Finally, in fundamental equities, we continue to have positive net inflows from clients in Asia Pacific, driven by ongoing momentum in our global equity income fund, which remains the top-selling retail active fund in the Japanese market. This fund posted net inflows of $3 billion during the quarter, rapidly growing to $28 billion in AUM. While generating a very favorable net revenue yield for Invesco. We also posted our second consecutive quarter of net inflows in our U.S. Value equity strategies. Furthermore, our developed markets fund continues to experience significant moderation of outflows with just $500 million during the quarter. Additionally, on an overall gross sales basis, we are among our best fundamental equity flow quarters since the beginning of 2022, on the heels of an exceptionally strong first quarter. Despite these positive fundamental equity flow highlights, we remained in net outflows of $7.7 billion overall in this segment. The uptick this quarter included a few large idiosyncratic liquidations from a couple of institutional investors, making overall allocation and reallocation positioning decisions. We continue to focus on strengthening our fundamental equity long-term investment quality through talent, risk management and overall platform tool enhancements. We are making progress, and we are seeing improved performance as outlined on the next slide. So moving on to Slide 5, which shows our overall investment performance relative to benchmarks and peers, as well as our performance in key capabilities where information is readily comparable and more meaningful to driving results. Investment performance is integral to winning and maintaining market share regardless of overall market demand. As such, achieving first quartile investment performance remains a key priority for Invesco. Overall, 44% of our active funds are performing in the top quartile of peers on a three-year time horizon with nearly half reaching that bar on a five-year basis. Further, nearly 70% of our active AUM is beating its respective benchmark on both the three- and five-year basis. And as I mentioned, we are beginning to see improved performance in our fundamental equities lineup. Which now has over 40% of funds performing in the top quartile of peers on a five-year time horizon. With over half beating their benchmark. So with that, I am going to take a pause and turn the call over to Allison to discuss the quarter's financial results and I look forward to your questions.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Thank you, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. I am going to start with the second quarter financial results that are on Slide 6. Strong organic growth and positive markets drove a significant increase in assets under management during the second quarter. Net long-term asset inflows were a record $45 billion in the second quarter. Nearly a 9% annualized organic growth rate marking the 12th consecutive quarter of net inflows. Favorable markets drove a $257 billion increase in AUM, and net flows in the money market funds totaled $17 billion for the quarter. AUM at the end of the quarter reached a record high of $2.5 trillion, a 14% increase over the first quarter. and 23% higher than the second quarter of last year. Average long-term AUM was $2.1 trillion, a 7% increase over last quarter, and 58% greater than last year. Net revenues, adjusted operating income, and adjusted operating margin continued to show meaningful improvement from the first quarter as well as the same quarter last year, while adjusted operating expenses continued to be well managed. On a sequential quarter basis, net revenue growth was 5%, while adjusted operating expenses were essentially flat generating nearly 500 basis points of positive operating leverage, and a 300 basis point operating margin improvement in the second quarter, the operating margin expanding to 37.5%. Adjusted operating income increased 14% to nearly $500 million for the quarter, and adjusted diluted earnings per share increased to $0.71 from $0.57 in the first quarter, a 25% improvement. On a year-over-year basis, net revenue growth was over 20% while adjusted operating expenses increased 9%. Generating over 10 points of positive operating leverage and a 360 basis point operating margin expansion. Adjusted operating income increased 45%, and adjusted diluted earnings per share nearly doubled from $0.36 last year to $0.71 that we reported for the second quarter. Our focus on strengthening the balance sheet continued during the quarter as we reduced net debt by more than $450 million in the second quarter. The reduction combined with improved EBITDA resulted in a substantial improvement in our leverage ratios. Finally, we increased common share repurchases in the second quarter as compared to prior quarters. Buying back $50 million, or 1.9 million shares. We also announced in April an increase in the quarterly common stock dividend to $0.215 per share. Now moving to Slide 7. Secular shifts in client demand continue to drive strong growth in lower-fee products, such as ETFs, including the QQQ, while the demand for higher-fee products, such as fundamental equity, has not been as strong. This has resulted in a more balanced AUM profile for Invesco, which better positions the firm to navigate various market cycles, events, and evolving client demand. We have seen the impact of the asset mix shift moderate over the past several quarters, resulting in a more modest decline in the net revenue yield and more recently approaching a degree of stabilization. To provide context, the net revenue yield was 22.4 basis points for the second quarter. While slightly down from the first quarter, it was in line with the fourth quarter. The exit yield at the end of the second quarter was 22 basis points. Turning to Slide 8. Net revenue of $1.3 billion in the second quarter was $224 million higher compared to the same quarter last year, and $65 million higher as compared to last quarter. The increase in net revenue was largely driven by investment management fees, predominantly due to higher average AUM. On a year-over-year basis, the increase was also driven by the reclass of the QQQ to fee earning. Operating expenses increased $70 million versus the same quarter last year, and only $2 million as compared to last quarter. The year-over-year increase was mainly driven by higher employee variable compensation related to the growth in net revenue, and marketing expenses related to the reclassification of QQQ. The hybrid investment platform implementation costs were $14 million in the second quarter, in line with our expectations and prior quarters. The incremental operating expense associated with AUM that has been moved on to the hybrid platform was $5 million in the quarter. A majority of this expense is impacting property office and technology, and it will be in this line item going forward. Regarding the hybrid implementation platform cost for the remainder of 2026, we expect quarterly onetime implementation costs to run closer to $15 million per quarter in the second half of this year with the push to have implementation completed by year end. As we transition more AUM onto the platform, incremental expense related to AUM on the platform will build towards $10 million per quarter later this year. Expenses associated with the platform may fluctuate quarter to quarter due to timing. Effective tax rate for the second quarter was 24.9% in line with expectations. And for the fourth for the third quarter, we estimate our non-GAAP effective tax rate will be in the 25% to 26% range, excluding any discrete items. The actual effective rate can vary due to the impact of nonrecurring items on pretax income and discrete tax size. I am going to wrap up on Slide 9. We continue to make progress on building balance sheet strength and improving our leverage profile. During the second quarter, we reduced total debt $343 million and net debt by over $450 million as compared to the first quarter. This included reducing the amount drawn on the revolving credit facility, from $1.1 billion at the end of the first quarter to $136 million at the end of the second accomplished through operating cash flow. The reduction in debt coupled with improving EBITDA, resulted in a substantial improvement in our leverage ratios. The leverage ratio, inclusive of the preferred stock, declined by 0.4 of a turn in the second quarter to 1.9x the leverage ratio excluding the preferred stock declined by over 0.3 of a turn to 0.54x for the second quarter. Looking back over the past year, the leverage ratio inclusive of the preferred stock improved by nearly a turn driven by $1.5 billion in preferred share repurchases debt reduction, and improving EBITDA. We expect further improvement in the leverage ratios for the remainder of the year as we reduce the amount drawn on the facility and simultaneously grow EBITDA. We also increased the degree of common share repurchases in the second quarter as well dividends. We increased the amount repurchased to $50 million, or 1.9 million shares And in April, we announced an increase in the quarterly common stock dividend to $0.215 per share. We intend to continue a regular common share repurchase program going forward as we target a total payout ratio, including common dividends and share buybacks to be near 60%. To conclude, we generated another quarter of significant organic growth and the diversity of our business, coupled with positive market trends, drove AUM to a near record level. A result, we delivered strong revenue growth for the quarter. This, combined with well managed expenses, delivered another quarter positive operating leverage and a significant improvement in our operating margin. Also continued progress on building a stronger balance sheet. We are committed to driving profitable growth. A high level of financial performance, and enhancing the return of capital to our shareholders. And with that, operator, if you could open the line up for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. An audio question, please press *1. Will be announced prior to asking your question. Please pick up your handset when asking your question. To withdraw your request, you may press *2. And 1 moment please for our first question. Our first question comes from Patrick Davitt with Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question.

Patrick Davitt

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Hey. Good morning, everyone. How are you?

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Hey, Patrick.

Patrick Davitt

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

I will start with the QQQs. Now that we know kind of what the fee rates are gonna be for the competitor products, I guess, would like to get your updated thoughts on firstly, your willingness to adjust the fee for the QQQs and two, to what degree could be an expense offset to that, either from marketing or custody that you can squeeze to offset any revenue? Thank you.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Yes, Patrick. Thanks for the question. Let me start and then Allison can pick up on some of the specifics of the second part of it. I wanna reiterate a couple of things. I mean, we have a 25-year history managing the QQQ. It has a very large and entrenched position. It has a ton of brand recognition. And note that it is the one-of-a-kind QQQ. And it also is part of our ETF innovation suite, which now has $650 billion of assets across a ton of products around the world. The QQQ, recall, has a ton of scale, a ton of liquidity, execution benefits, it is the fifth-largest ETF and the second-most actively traded in the world. So I mentioned all that only to say, investors in our funds spend a lot of time looking at total cost of ownership. And that goes beyond the total expense ratio and choose that. Shareholders have benefited from that and will continue to benefit given the size and scale. What I mean by that is really tight bid-ask spreads, deep on-screen liquidity, a really strong trading base, and $500 billion of notional options. Associated with it. So it has a really strong ecosystem around it that is unique. Also, switching costs are something people look at. And given the low relative tax basis of so many, in the QQQ, those switching costs come with the real economic impact. And then I wanna also mention, you know, that we have our own test case of how these additional products around the QQQs impact things. The QQQM, which we launched about five years ago, stands at about $100 billion today. But it did not slow down the QQQ's significant growth during the period either. Over the last three years, that fund is up 2.5 times terms of its size and it attracted $75 billion of net new flows. Despite having a lower-priced product. Alongside it. And then recently, as I mentioned in my comments, there is significant ownership of the QQQ around the world. Indicative of how quickly we can scale up because of our strong brand. We recently listed in Hong Kong and in Tokyo, and those AUM levels are already at $10 billion combined. You know, so we are really gonna focus on differentiating ourselves on the total cost of ownership, We are really gonna accentuate the deeply rooted QQQ brand which is both recognized here in the U.S. and globally. And we are going to continue to innovate through the suite's leadership in new markets and new channels. Allison, do you wanna pick up on maybe some of the more specific questions?

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Sure. Anything pricing related. I would say we are we are gonna focus on long-term client outcomes. We are gonna continue to focus on product differentiation, the ecosystem strength. We are not going to have a short-term competitive reaction. Think we have been in this for a long time. We are going to be in it for a long time, and we are really focused on total client experience as Andrew was discussing. We have got that dominant entrenched position. that is worth a substantial amount. And, all of our marketing spend, as we think about that, is really going to be to continue to focus on how do we focus on promoting that QQQ brand, which arguably is probably the best-known ticker out there. And we are gonna continue to focus our marketing dollars on creating that education and aiding in advisor adoption. it is been incredibly effective. there is hundreds of millions of dollars. if not north of $1 billion. it is already been invested against that brand over the last several decades. And it is gonna be hard to match that level of brand strength and awareness or even match the spend that we have already spent against it. And we have really got the flexibility now to choose where we want to market and where we want to market and where we want to direct that spend and in the manner that we think is best. A lot of our marketing spend right now is dedicated outside of the United States. As Andrew said earlier, we are north of a $10 billion in AUM due to the cross-listing of the QQQ in Japan and in Hong Kong. So we feel very good about the level of marketing spend there. Maybe the last part of your question, I think you mentioned custodian fees and any flexibility there. Look. I would say the custodial fee was with Bank of New York, which is the custodian. We could not have gotten the conversion done. Without Bank of New York's help six months ago. Those are long-term contracts that you enter into, so I do not think there is a lot of room on that right now, but I wanna be, you know, really clear. They have been an unbelievably terrific partner, and we could not have done it without the Bank of New York.

Patrick Davitt

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Thank you so much. Very, very helpful and detailed. 1 quick follow-up. On the Superstate win. I think that fund was already managed by a firm that is arguably much more established in liquidity management. So could you expand on how that opportunity came together and why you think Invesco was chosen over the previous manager? Thank you.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Yeah. I mean, we have a $120 billion global liquidity franchise. You will be managing funds for decades. So we do have a lot of strength and capability in the liquidity side. So maybe it starts with that. You know, the second thing is that we have made a commitment to innovate through digital assets and through establishing partnerships. And so having the opportunity to take over that $1 billion tokenized US Treasury fund was important to us. I think because of our commitment to innovation, our long-term experience on the global liquidity side, and frankly, the vast distribution that we have. Around the world institutionally, and the retail space, I think created a nice combination for the two of us. Thanks.

Patrick Davitt

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bill Katz with TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Bill Katz

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Great. Thank you very much for taking the questions this morning. Maybe to pick up on the operating leverage, I think it came in well above most people's expectations. Andrew or Allison, I am sort of curious as you think about either the incremental margin or maybe the longer term margin targets, I was wondering if you could update your thinking for us And I think within that, you mentioned in the deck about opportunity to take out some more savings as you sort of migrate down the Aladdin implementation phase maybe update us where those savings could come from? Thank you.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Sure. I think we have been quite consistent in saying had an objective of returning our operating returns back to the high-30s and for a while there, we were focused on getting back to the mid-30s. Now we are squarely focused on continuing to improve this expansion into the high-30s and building a more durable operating margin just through any cycle. And that is the real challenge, in a business like ours where you have got a high degree of beta and revenue sensitivity to the markets. And that is really, behind a lot of the work we have been doing for several years now in trying to create the flexibility we need in the expense base and continuing to diversify our revenue sources with a better balanced AUM profile. I think we are really starting to demonstrate some of the benefits of that. So I would say near- to medium-term operating margin targets is to continue to expand and consistently deliver in the high-30s. that is the focus. As it relates to operating expense guidance relative to the implementation of the hybrid investment platform. I would say our comments are consistent with the guidance we gave at the end of the first quarter. Our focus is on really trying to deliver on the implementation by the end of this year. The implementation expenses, as we said, were $14 million in the second quarter. We are expecting that to be closer to $15 million consistently for the next couple of quarters. And then we also are continuing with the platform fees that we are paying $5 million that was embedded in the run rate and the second quarter. That should be expanding to about $10 million per quarter in the back half of this year. So against that, there is a lot of work underneath trying to make sure we are managing our expenses really thoughtfully. I think you can see the evidence of that. In the second quarter with the really well-maintained expenses And as we get past implementation, we will continue to focus on driving out further operating expenses consistent with our guidance last quarter into 2027.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

And Bill, the only thing I would add is the places where we are seeing organic growth ETFs, SMAs, fixed income at large, cash, These are all categories that scale pretty well. And, you know, we are gonna continue to expect to see growth in those segments.

Bill Katz

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

that is helpful. And this is a follow-up, maybe a different thread. So I think about your incremental thought process now on capital return. You have deleveraged pretty significantly. You are generating a lot of free cash flow. I think you mentioned payout, so combined payout came to 60%. Maybe prioritize how you are thinking about capital return. Are you looking to do more deals now? Are you gotten the balance sheet in a better spot? Is there opportunity to continue to work with MassMutual to bring down the preferred towards zero, which I think the market would like to see? How you are thinking about maybe the use of cash flow, that would be helpful. Thank you.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Sure, Bill. I will take that one also. I mean, I have a fairly consistent approach to capital. Yes. We are continuing to target a 60% payout ratio. We are doing that in an expanding sort of EPS environment. So it is almost a little bit hard to catch up to that. But we are continuing to make forward progress and expanding both our buybacks and the modest increase in the common dividend that we announced last quarter. Feeling pretty good about the return of capital to shareholders and certainly have an intention to continue to improve that towards 60%. At the same time, we still have a little bit more to go on the revolver. So we noted very substantial progress in the first quarter. We would like to continue to work that down just a bit before trying to address more of the preferred. That is, as we have said before, a mutual choice between MassMutual and ourselves and a lot of the conditions and circumstances have to be there, including their willingness and the rate environment and the premium that is required. Those are all negotiated conversations, and we are positioned to do more. At some point in time, I think we said earlier this year, we hope to be in a position by later this year, early next year, and I still feel that is probably the right timing for us. Because what we are making sure we continue to reserve a great deal of capacity for is investing in ourselves. And we are doing that as we continue to launch new products. We continue to see great investment opportunities in our own product capabilities. And I think we have demonstrated the shareholder returns behind that with just the organic growth that we have been delivering consistently for several years since now. That is not at the expense of inorganic opportunities, We are always open-minded and looking at what is out there and always evaluating the landscape. But we evaluate that against our own organic growth opportunity. And heretofore, we have been able to deliver better shareholder returns on our own organic capabilities than anything we have seen from an inorganic perspective. So all things are always on the table for us, and we are always evaluating the opportunity set.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

I mean, organically, we think we have generated close to $200 billion of net long-term inflows over the last two years. Additionally, we have kind of had we have I think, an ethos of partnership throughout the company as well, which was long-dated. You know, but we have done the two in private markets. We made changes in India and Canada, as I mentioned. You know, we have divested from our fintechs. So, I mean, we have been active and we are gonna continue to be creative both for organic and different forms of inorganic growth that if it presents itself. Thank you very much.

Bill Katz

Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Glenn Schorr with Evercore. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Glenn Schorr

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Thanks very much. there has been a lot of growth on the tax-aware side of the business. I am curious with your brand, your distribution network, I would think it would suit very well. Maybe talk about your current capabilities and where you think that market can grow and if you can just throw in any thoughts on the recent treasury commentary on a smaller subset of that business, that would be Thanks.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Yeah. I mean, the SMA retail SMA space has grown really rapidly, as you said, industrywide, and we have outpaced that growth. We were up to $40 billion of retail SMA you know, a lot of it tax-oriented, tax-aware As you called it. A lot of that growth for us has come on the fixed income side. And in particular, in the muni space, shorter duration, but getting into a little longer dated So we have a real I think, competitive edge in the fixed income space where I think others had focused almost exclusively on equities. You know, we are also seeing growth on the equity side. Both in systematic equity a little less than the fundamental side. But I think as the pivot goes from mutual funds to other formats, active ETFs, and, you know, actively managed tax-aware SMAs, we think the growth could be considerable. That 40 billion we manage today you know, was half that. three or four years ago. So we have had exceptional growth. And quarter-on-quarter growth. We continue to expect that to be the case. Most of it is coming in the U.S.. I mean, I think there may be some opportunity over time. In other parts beyond the U.S.. But the technology is really good. And so my comments before we will continue to invest in technology probably over people. And be able to scale that business pretty extensively, we think. We have all the investment capabilities inside the house. To be able to do it.

Glenn Schorr

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Maybe one on real estate to maybe a lesser degree fixed fundamental fixed income, but you know, during the quarter, we had a a switch in rate expectations and it feels like it is paused a recovery on the real estate side. But so it is not broken out explicitly in on your table. Wonder if you could talk about your thoughts on the real estate backdrop demand for your product and if it can, continue without the help of lower rates. Thanks.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Yes. Thanks. So let me start quickly, and then I will hand it over to Allison. We continue to see demand in the debt side of real estate, credit side of real estate in particular. Our real estate credit fund which I mentioned in my comments, is now up to $6 billion with leverage. Know, it has grown kind of routinely every quarter over the last two or three years, and we have not seen that subside really at all. it is going from strength to strength. I think that is a little bit of a function of some of the demand, but also a lot less supply in that space. On the equity side, you know, I think the fundamentals are a bit mixed. And know, maybe Allison can pick up on a couple of the details around that. But you know, all in all, for the quarter, we saw growth, net flow growth, organic flow growth in our real estate franchise.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Yeah. I mean, I would say more specifically, even where we saw really strong growth was INCREF. And that continues to be one of the fastest ramps in the wealth channel for any of our real estate credit products. So that is in about $6 billion in AUM and continues to be a strong driver of flows I do not know that it do not know that it dampens demand. There is more specifically to your question, but perhaps it does not return us to what we were perhaps experiencing 5, 7, 10 years ago when we were in a zero rate, low rate environment for a very long time. But I think largely, the market's been working through a lot of that. We continue now to see just better demand overall. I mean dry powder for us on the real estate side is around $7 billion. So we do still have a lot of unallocated capital. We are seeing a little pickup in transaction activity overall. And so we are still modestly optimistic even with the rate outlook. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next question comes from Daniel Fannon with Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Dan Fannon

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Thanks. Good morning. So Andrew, was hoping you could expand upon your comments around the QQQ franchise and your outlook for expanding.

Dan Fannon

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question

And I think you have mentioned some of the stats around Hong Kong and Tokyo. Are there other regions or other things you are looking to do from either a marketing perspective or product launch that, you know, should accelerate and or pick up as the year progresses?

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Yes. Sure. Thank you. there are two big cross-listings out in Asia. In the last six to nine months. You know, those are two really big markets for us. So not only were they important launches there, but they just amplify the recognition we already have in those markets, and it is a it is a double benefit. You know, we have I think, 20 to 25 sort of QQQ-related or innovation suite as we call it related products. All over the world. And the bulk majority of those have been you know, in the European region and the U.K. and also here in the U.S. Know, so we will look so selectively, not just from a markets different geography perspective, even inside, you know, where we have dominance here in the U.S. We will we will look to selectively expand it. But I think given that the marketing we have done around the QQQ specifically, now can be much more expansive across that whole innovation suite in the large. And there is just such a halo benefit given that we are, you know, the one and only QQQ. So we are we are probably gonna leverage that more than just product launches, you know, over the over the coming quarters.

Dan Fannon

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Great. Thank you. And then Allison, just as a follow-up on expenses. Given AUM levels or I think you said record highs and some of the guidance you have given us. Was hoping you could update us on some of the ranges for comp ratio that you have given historically, where you think you are tracking in terms of that as well as on the net distribution or net service and distribution ratio?

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Sure. Let me let me take the distribution ratio first. You know, I think again, I would continue to point to the best relationship to think about there is third-party expenses plus distribution fees. Divided by management fees. That relationship is really the way we think about how to forecast our own expenses there and the guidance I would give you. That was 22.7% for the second quarter. It was also 22.7% in the first quarter. I think going forward, it is fair to think about that as somewhere in that 22.7% to 23% range, maybe even a little bit closer to 23% going forward. The trend towards that 23% is really due to the product mix shift that we continue to see with growth strong growth in the QQQ, the QQQM, RSP, those products that have lower management fees and drive a little bit of that relationship. So, hopefully, that is helpful as you think about the guidance there. On compensation as a percentage of revenue, we are looking at that for 2026 as likely being largely in that 40% context. And as we are halfway through the year, it is been a very strong first half of the year. We are again, cautiously optimistic on the second half of the year, but we all understand how this industry works. I think 40% is probably the right ratio to assume for 2026.

Dan Fannon

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brennan Hawken with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Brennan Hawken

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Good morning, Andrew and Allison. Thanks for taking my question. Just a follow-up on the QQQ. So the net revenue yield came in at 6 basis points better than the prior guidance. Can help us understand the primary factors that drove that delta? And it sounds like your outlook for that is unchanged. You are not planning on making any adjustments. Is that the right read on that, or would you course correct? Thanks.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Yeah. I mean, I would say consistent with the conversation a little bit earlier around fee rate adjustments. That is a longer-term thought process, but we are nowhere near just given all of the real strengths we have already been discussing on that. And so around 6 basis points is definitely in line. With where we were expecting and what we have been guiding to the last couple of quarters when you think about the relationship from the effective fee rate to the custodial fees to the licensing fee to the variable expenses associated with marketing, and that all nets out to about a 6 basis point net revenue yield. And then about 6 basis points to operating margin as well.

Brennan Hawken

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Great.

Brennan Hawken

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Thanks for that. And then I believe you had said that the end-of-period net revenue yield was 22 basis points. Is that 22.0? And could you maybe help us understand how that compressed so much versus the average?

Allison Dukes

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Sure. It was 22.0 was the exit rate at the end of the quarter, and it is really driven by the strong run in the back half of the quarter and some of those lower-fee products of QQQ, QQQM, RSP. Those are probably the biggest drivers to that net revenue yield. And just given both the flows and the market experience and some of those lower-fee product capabilities, you saw an exit rate of 22.0. at the end of the second quarter.

Brennan Hawken

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Great. Thanks for that color.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Thanks, Brennan.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Alexander Blostein with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Alexander Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Hey. Good morning. Just another one on the QQQs. So I think all the reasons you kinda gave around the value the franchise created over time, the liquidity, the tight bid-ask spreads, all that makes a ton of sense. I think the concern is really in the growth going forward. And really kinda wanna zone in on this question from the perspective of the distribution channels, and how reliant are your gross sales in the QQQs from areas that can have just more sensitivity to the actual management fee being lower, whether it is you know, a fiduciary capacity, advisory capacity, or things like that. So how do you think about that? Because, again, the concern is really probably more in the forward growth opposed to the back book.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Yeah. No. Thanks for the question. Maybe I would point you to a few things. 1, the shareholder base is incredibly broad. And it cuts across you know, every aspect you could imagine. So that is point one. The second I point you back to was in the late summer and fall when we were soliciting all those shareholders to vote. And you can look back at the experience we had at their emphasis on fee sensitivity maybe as a bit of an indicator of their focus. Meaning how difficult it was to get them to vote for a reduction in their own fees. And we learned how broad the shareholder base is through that proxy solicitation. So the bottom line is there is no single type of shareholder here. Got it.

Alexander Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Okay. Understood. Also, now I clean up on expenses for you. You gave all the kinda moving pieces for this year. But as you look out into 2027, it is still a little noisy with integration, and that is likely to roll off. So as you think about that $15 million in, implementation fees, how quickly do you expect that to phase out in 2027? So does that all kinda go away in the first quarter, or is that more gradual? And kinda what is likely to be the pace of that?

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. You may ask your question

I would expect and look. We will give more 2027 guidance as we get a little bit closer to it. But I would expect implementation expenses to start to taper off in the first quarter. But there, it is going to be does not all magically go away on December 31. So there is certainly going to be some implementation that bleeds into the first quarter. Beyond that, implementation expenses should be bleeding off pretty quickly. And then as we have noted before, there is a lot of work then to really think about how do we take advantage of the installation of the system and continue to manage our end-to-end delivery in such a way that we can get even greater operating leverage out of our overall platform, and that is going to be our real focus going into 2027. And of course, that will extend into 2028. As I think about expense guidance more broadly going into next year, look, we are very pleased that we are at 37.5% operating margin this quarter and the signal that sends about our ability to get back into the high-30s and operate in the high-30s. Our focus is going to continue to be on positive operating leverage, how we generate profitable growth and positive operating leverage underneath that.

Alexander Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. You may ask your question

All right. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Brian Bedell, Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Brian Bedell

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Thanks for taking my question. I just do one last cleanup on expenses. I do not know. I am not sure if I missed this, but I think in Q1 you said $3.275 billion was the expense target for 2026, and that was predicated on $2.3 trillion in AUM. So just as the market sort of is trending better and that number goes up, or the AUM goes up, can you just talk about the variable the overall variable component of the expenses that we should be considering to that?

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

You know, I think the most variable component I would point you to is, again, compensation to revenue.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

I mean, compensation is two-thirds of our expense base. As you know, I would point you to that 40% comp to revenue guide there. Rather than a total expense-based guide because I think everything else we have given you kind of pieces together, the parts of that and get you to a relatively consistent relationship and expense guide. That guide we gave was because they are just such a sharp turn in AUM from March 31 to the time of the earnings call at the end of April. We wanted to make sure we cleaned up and gave some relative expectations there. But your biggest variable driver is going to be compensation, and that 40%, I think, is the right relationship as we think about this year.

Brian Bedell

Analyst

Yep. Yep. Totally. that is helpful. Thanks. And then just on the long-term equity flows, can you just talk about I think you mentioned the idiosyncratic liquidation. Just sort of the impact for the second quarter as you think about the progress that you are making on the long-term equity side globally. Any chance that you can sort of think about when you might turn positive on the equity flows on a you know, on a on a sort of a stable basis or, you know, I should say, a more repeatable, sustainable basis.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Yes. No. Thanks. it is, look, to state the obvious, improving the flow dynamics for fundamental equities is a major feature for the company. And that is gonna come on the back of improved performance and product quality, of course, but also where market demand is. And I think you know, getting positive flows is a little bit of a function of, you know, does the market environment moderate for active equities? And we have seen that happen in several cases and we have been able to outperform. The idiosyncratic comment is literally a couple of large like, three large institutional mandates you know, that obviously will not be recurring. You know, left this quarter. So look, the goal is to get back into positive flows, but some of the dynamics will be what the market can deliver for us as well in terms of demand.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

And I would say just adding on to that, I mean, we definitely see positive flows in certain strategies. We have discussed the Henley Global Equity Income Fund that has been selling very well in Japan, in particular. Flows this quarter were $2.6 billion. Our U.S. Value equity fund range had a second consecutive quarter of net inflows. So where there is good investment performance and there is sort of the secular investor demand, we are capturing it. But that returning to positive flows on a consistent basis is a challenge for the industry, as you well know.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Yeah. I mean, we are focused on other things as well around our active strategies, bringing them into other formats like active ETF. So you know, we are not gonna be relying on the mutual fund structure alone to get us into, hopefully, a positive flow trajectory in the future.

Brian Bedell

Analyst

Yep. Totally makes sense. Thank you.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Autonomous Research. Line is open. You may ask your question

Welcome. Operator, we have time for one more question.

Operator

Operator

We have a question from Benjamin Budish with Barclays. Your line is open. You may ask your question.

Benjamin Budish

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Hey, good morning and thank you for squeezing me in here. Maybe just one final one on the expense side. I think given a lot of color there. Just one on the comp side in particular, I am curious, I know in Q1 you had a couple of seasonal items, I think payroll taxes and there was the acceleration of long-term awards you had called out. How should we be thinking about variable comp going to the back half of the year? It just looks like Q2 stepped up a bit more than we would have expected given those seasonal items in Q1. So curious if there is any incremental color you can share there. The 40% is quite helpful, but just you know, how do we think about that in the context of what the market may do? Thank you.

Allison Dukes

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Sure. I mean, I would just say, from a seasonality standpoint, all things being equal, in any given year, you expect comp to revenue to be higher in the first quarter, a little bit lower in the second quarter and then tends to taper off. And that is all things being equal, of course, depending on where AUM and revenue migrate over the course of the year. A seasonality in that Q1 is associated with payroll taxes, also the way our long-term awards are recognized and the deferrals and that is always gonna create a Q1 hit that is gonna drive that comp-to-revenue ratio a little bit low -- a little bit higher. Excuse me. And then some of that bleeds into the second quarter, and a lot of that is washed out by the back half. Again, I would point you to a full-year guide of that 40%.

Benjamin Budish

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Okay. Thank you very much.

Andrew Schlossberg

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open. You may ask your question

Great. Thank you. Thanks, operator. So in closing, we are absolutely pleased with the continued strong results this quarter. We advanced several strategically important investment capabilities in vehicles with many reaching record AUM levels. With disciplined focus on the benefits of scale, we are generating meaningful operating leverage and we are improving margins. And we will continue to stay focused on our highly defined growth strategy with an emphasis on the relentless execution, client-focused innovation, and teamwork we have been exhibiting across our firm. Thanks to everybody for joining the call today. And as always, please reach out to our Investor Relations team for any additional questions and we appreciate your interest in Invesco. And we look forward to speaking with you all again soon. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

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