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Invesco Mortgage Capital Inc. (IVR)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to Invesco Mortgage Capital Inc's. Third Quarter 2022 Investor Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Now I would like to turn the call over to Matt Seitz in Investor Relations. Mr. Seitz, you may now begin the call. Thank you.

Matthew Seitz

Analyst

Thanks, operator, and to all of you joining us on Invesco Mortgage Capital's Quarterly Earnings Call. In addition to today's press release, we have provided a presentation that covers the topics we plan to address today. The press release and presentation are available on our website, invescomortgagecapital.com. This information can be found by going to the Investor Relations section of the website. Our presentation today will include forward-looking statements and certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please review the disclosures on Slide 2 of the presentation regarding these statements and measures as well as the appendix for the appropriate reconciliations to GAAP. Finally, Invesco Mortgage Capital is not responsible for and does not edit nor guarantee the accuracy of our earnings teleconference transcripts provided by third parties. The only authorized webcasts are located on our website. Again, welcome, and thank you for joining us today. I'll now turn the call over to John Anzalone. John?

John Anzalone

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to Invesco Mortgage Capital's Third Quarter Earnings Call. I'll give some brief comments before turning the call over to our Chief Investment Officer, Brian Norris, to discuss the current portfolio in more detail. Also joining us on the call to participate in the Q&A are our President, Kevin Collins, our CFO, Lee Phegley, and our COO, Dave Lyle. Financial conditions tightened during the third quarter of 2022 as the FOMC increased the Fed funds rate on 2 separate occasions by a total of 150 basis points and then subsequently added a further 75 basis point hike yesterday in response to inflation levels that persist at multi-decade highs. Equity markets declined, credit spreads widened and volatility increased from already elevated levels as recession fears mounted in the market priced at a more aggressive pace of tightening by the Fed. The challenging environment for agency mortgages persisted during the third quarter as the sector recorded its worst quarterly performance in over a decade. Mortgages have now performed poorly for 4 consecutive quarters, and the drivers have largely remained the same. Persistent inflation, rapidly tightening monetary policy, elevated volatility, reduced liquidity and a general risk off tone in financial markets. Given this challenging backdrop, our book value declined during the quarter ending September at $12.80. Since the beginning of the fourth quarter, agency mortgage performance has remained volatile, leading to a further decline in our book value of approximately 4.5%. On a positive note, earnings available for distribution for the third quarter remained strong at $1.39 per common share given our rotation into higher-yielding agency mortgages, along with favorable funding and a relatively low-cost legacy swap portfolio. Further, wider spreads on our target assets have created an attractive reinvestment environment that continues to be supportive of the earnings power…

Brian Norris

Analyst

Thanks, John, and good morning to everyone listening to the call. I'll begin on Slide 4, which provides an overview of the changes in the macro environment within the fixed income markets over the past year. During the third quarter, persistently elevated inflation and the acceleration of monetary policy tightening by the Federal Reserve continued to pressure interest rates higher, leading to another bear flattening move, a consistent theme over the past year. During the quarter, yields on maturities less than 1 year increased approximately 150 basis points, while longer-dated maturities increased roughly half that amount, reflecting the expectation that longer-term inflation should decline from the heightened levels of the current environment. Market expectations for future adjustments and monetary policy have evolved as well with further tightening expected in the near term, followed by easing in the latter half of 2023, as indicated in the bottom left chart. As shown in the lower right-hand chart, U.S. commercial banks reduced their holdings of agency mortgages during the third quarter, concurrent with the end of net asset purchases by the Federal Reserve, resulting in significantly lower demand for the sector during the quarter. The cap on runoff of the Federal Reserve's agency mortgage portfolio increased to $35 billion per month in September versus the previous cap of $17.5 billion, leading to a modest increase of net supply to the market. With paydowns on the agency mortgage portion of the Fed's balance sheet approximately $20 billion to $25 billion per month in the third quarter, it is unlikely the $35 billion cap will be restrictive absent a significant drop in mortgage rates and resulting increase in refinancing and housing activity. Moving on to Slide 5, where we provide more detail on the agency mortgage market. In the upper left-hand chart, we show 30-year…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Doug Harter with Credit Suisse.

Douglas Harter

Analyst

Given that a lot of the weakness in the third quarter kind of happened at the tail end of September. Can you just talk about any portfolio actions you took that might have spilled over into October and kind of where a portfolio size leverage sits today?

Brian Norris

Analyst

Doug, it's Brian. Yes, leverage is mostly unchanged since the end of September. So around 5.3x debt to equity, including TBA. So book value performance quarter-to-date is, like John said, down roughly 4%, 4.5%. So we may have modestly reduced exposure to agency mortgages, but not too much to really make a big difference.

Douglas Harter

Analyst

Great. And then kind of you've been making steps to reduce the amount of preferred equity, but obviously kind of common book value has continued to fall. Just talk about where you're trying to get the preferred as a percentage of total equity and kind of what other steps you're looking to take?

John Anzalone

Analyst

Doug, this is John. Yes, I mean, we're still obviously committed to getting our capital structure rebalance. And I think -- thinking about it in the context of in the 20% to 25% range for preferreds is kind of our target. And we're continuing to look for just accretive opportunities, both on repurchasing preferreds as well as if we can accretively raise common through either the ATM or through block trades. So any of those avenues in the near future is how we're going to go about it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Trevor Cranston with JMP Securities.

Trevor Cranston

Analyst · JMP Securities.

You guys are obviously earning a pretty strong spread income with leverage is where it's at today. But I guess with some of the tailwinds emerging for agencies that you mentioned in the prepared remarks. Can you talk about what you'd need to see to meaningfully increase your leverage from here in order to potentially get some book value appreciation if or when the spread is eventually tight?

Brian Norris

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Yes. Trevor, it's Brian. We definitely need to see a reduction in volatility. I think that's the primary thing in the market that we're looking for at this point. We think that we'll start to see that. And actually, Powell's comments on yesterday's press conference, talking about potentially a more shallow but longer time frame for monetary policy tightening. We think that, that should be a volatility reduction or we should see a reduction in volatility as a result of that. But again, just the near-term volatility continues to be relatively high. So we think over the longer term that, that should play out. And if that were to play out, then we would look to potentially increase leverage into that. But until that happens, we're going to remain somewhat cautious.

Trevor Cranston

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Okay. Got it. Then on the prepayment speed for the portfolio, obviously, it's still very low. You mentioned in the prepared remarks some of the spec pools potentially paying faster when they're trading at discounts. Can you just talk about kind of generally what sort of projected lifetime speed for the portfolio would be at this point?

Brian Norris

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Yes. We think -- well, as we continue to shift into higher coupons, that's kind of keeping our prepayment speeds relatively low because we're buying mostly newly issued mortgages. So we're still seeing kind of high 3 CPR range. We would expect turnover to be in around the 4% CPR range. And our rotation into higher coupons should maybe increase that a little bit. But we would anticipate kind of high single digits for a longer-term CPR on what we hold currently.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Jason Stewart with JonesTrading.

Jason Stewart

Analyst · JonesTrading.

How do you guys view the political nature of the Fed at this point?

Brian Norris

Analyst · JonesTrading.

Jason, it's Brian. Yes, yes, that's a tough one. I think clearly, there were some statements or sentences added to the statement yesterday that seemed to be a little bit more dovish than the press conference was. So I think clearly, the Chairman is likely more hawkish than some of the other committee members. And so I think his goal and the way he views it is that it's easier to be hawkish now and dovish later than to be dovish now and potentially lease control of inflation.

John Anzalone

Analyst · JonesTrading.

Yes. I think that's -- yes, this is John. I agree with all that. And I think being more -- being slightly more aggressive or more hawkish, in the near term is probably helpful just in terms of trying to get -- first of all, get inflation the people more quickly, but then also avoiding getting into the next presidential cycle and all of that. So I think that's part of the calculus probably. The other thing that didn't come up is the whole potential of selling mortgages, which has been an overhang for the mortgage market for a long time. It's sort of with the whole talk of the -- supposed dovish pivot we didn't get that talk went away a little bit. I think going forward, I think the possibility of selling mortgages as we go forward is kind of becoming less and less as we -- as you realize, like most of the Fed holdings are massive discounts, and that would create potential paper losses and things like that, that could be -- you could see easily becoming politicized. And I think the Fed really wants to avoid any sort of overt political battles. So I think that's where it is. I mean I think to Brian's point, though, I think the path that seems to being laid out where the endpoint is kind of more important than the past and that it's going to be maybe a longer but more -- less aggressive hikes in each meeting is potentially good for mortgages and potentially good for volatility decreasing. So we view that positively.

Jason Stewart

Analyst · JonesTrading.

Got it. And then in terms of TBAs some of your peers used to be a little bit more aggressively than you guys do. What would cause you to change your view on the way you use TBA ?

Brian Norris

Analyst · JonesTrading.

Yes. I mean certainly, TBAs continue to be pretty attractive. We've seen deterioration kind of as production comes online in the newer coupons, it's just that we've continued to see newer coupons being created as mortgage rates continue to march higher. So 30 year, 5.5 and 6s are relatively attractive. But as we start to see more production come out of those coupons, we would anticipate that to decline, which has kind of kept a limit on how much we're willing to invest in the TBA market. But if we were to see things kind of just -- if we start to see banks start to come back into the market and we start to see kind of rates stabilize a little bit, we would anticipate those higher coupons to remain somewhat attractive. So in that environment, I think it would make sense to maybe increase the exposure there.

Jason Stewart

Analyst · JonesTrading.

Got you. So more on the ball side, I got you.

Operator

Operator

There are no other questions in queue at this time.

John Anzalone

Analyst

All right. Well, I'd like to thank everybody for joining us, and we look forward to meeting you again next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today's call. All participants may disconnect at this time. Thank you for joining.