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Ionis Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (IONS)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, May 9, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Ionis Pharmaceuticals Q1 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Wade Walke, Vice President, Investor Relations, to lead off the call. Please begin.

Wade Walke

Management

Thank you, Gary. Before we begin, I encourage everyone to go to the Investor section of Ionis website to find the press release and related financial tables, including a reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures that we will discuss today. We believe non-GAAP financial results better represent the economics of our business and how we manage our business. We've also posted slides on our website that accompany our discussion today. With me on the call are Stan Crow, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer; Beth Hougen, Chief Financial Officer; Brett Monia, Chief Operating Officer; and joining us for Q&A will be Damien McDevitt, Chief Business Officer; and Frank Bennett, Senior Vice President of Research. I would like to draw your attention to Slide 3, which contains our forward-looking luggage statement. We'll begin - we will be making forward-looking statements, which are based on our current expectations and beliefs. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. I encourage you to consult the risk factors discussed in our SEC filings for additional detail. And with that, I'll turn the call over Stan.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Thanks, Wade, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's culture. We've had a busy week of various calls, so thanks. You may have noticed that this week, we unveiled our new brand. We think it better expresses our commitment to patients and the passion that we have for the science that creates life transforming of medicine. It depicts and reinforces our culture, our technology, our business model and our position as a force for life. So now let's turn to Q1. We are off to a strong start, building on the momentum from last year. Our first quarter financial results significantly outperformed the first quarter of 2018 putting us well on track to achieve or perhaps more likely, potentially, exceed our 2019 financial guidance. Importantly, we achieved these strong financial results while investing aggressively and broadly in our business, including commercializing two medicines through early in next year and advancing our pipeline in technology. SPINRAZA's blockbuster performance continued in the first quarter and continued to significantly contribute to our financial results. SPINRAZA has placed new ground in - of the - and is the established standard-of-care in the treatment of previously fatal and untreatable disease, SMA. Even today, 2-plus years after marketing, Biogen is continuing to generate new results and gain further understanding of SPINRAZA's benefited patients with all forms of SMA. Recent clinical experience continues to demonstrate durability of benefit in patients with SMA, with some of these patients having been treated for over six years. With that, these results demonstrate that the benefit is not only durable, but is also increasing over time with the longer treatment resulting in even better benefit. So in some, all of the information that we have about SPINRAZA leases here. That is that if we treat infants…

Elizabeth Hougen

Management

Thank you, Stan. In the first quarter of this year, we significantly outperformed the first quarter of last year. Our total revenues more than doubled to nearly $300 million, resulting in operating and net income on both the GAAP and non-GAAP basis. Our non-GAAP operating and net income in the first quarter were $167 million and $126 million, respectively. In addition, we further strengthened our balance sheet by ending the fourth quarter with $2.3 billion of cash. Given our strong financial results, we are optimistic that we are on track to achieve and possibly exceed our guidance of non-GAAP net income. And as we gain more clarity on the rest of the year, we may update our guidance, as we have in previous years. With multiple medicines on the market, our commercial revenue continues to grow. In the first quarter, our commercial revenues were $68 million compared to $42 million last year. Our increased commercial revenue was driven by substantial SPINRAZA royalties and the contribution of TEGSEDI product sales. We are encouraged by SPINRAZA's better-than-expected global sales of $518 million in the first quarter. Global sales increased by 10% compared to the fourth quarter and 42% compared to last year. We earned commercial revenue from SPINRAZA royalties of $60 million, up 46% increase compared to last year. As a reminder, while our SPINRAZA royalty rate reset at the end of each year, because of SPINRAZA's strong first quarter performance, we have nearly reached the highest tier. Worldwide sales growth was driven by multiple factors, including adolescent and adult SMA patients initiating treatment in the U.S. and increased penetration in major geographies outside the U.S. At the end of the first quarter, there were over 7,500 patients on SPINRAZA treatment around the globe, including more than 7,000 commercial patients from over…

Brett Monia

Management

Thanks, Beth. As you can see from this slide, 2019 is already off to a strong start with numerous successes and important value-driving achievements across the business. Just this week, we and Akcea were extremely pleased to announce the European approval of WAYLIVRA to treat people with genetically confirmed FCS, who are at high risk for pancreatitis. Because TEGSEDI and WAYLIVRA share much of the same infrastructure in Europe, preparations to launch WAYLIVRA are well underway. And in Germany, Akcea's commercial team is already in place. And in the U.S. and Canada, our discussions with regulators continue as we pursue a path forward to expand WAYLIVRA access to Akcea's patients worldwide. Turning attention to our neurology programs. We believe antisense technology is the leading drug discovery platform to treat a range of devastating neurological diseases. As such, the AAN conference is an important opportunity every year for us and our partners to highlight the progress of our neurological disease programs. This year, Biogen presented data from ongoing studies of SPINRAZA and the Phase I/II study of IONIS-SOD1Rx, which we now refer you as tofersen. In addition, Roche presented data for IONIS-HTTRx and Huntington's disease, and Akcea presented data from the neuro TTR open-label extension study for TEGSEDI. SPINRAZA data from the SHINE open-label extension study and the ongoing NURTURE study continue to show increased benefit with longer SPINRAZA treatment with no change to the established, favorable safety profile, reinforcing SPINRAZA's place as the trusted choice in the treatment of all patients with SMA. In the SHINE open-label extension study in children and adolescent SMA patients, the long-term SPINRAZA treatment continues to demonstrate durability of benefit with some SMA patients now treated for up to six years and the benefit is not only durable, but it also increases over time with…

Stanley Crooke

Management

Thanks, Brett. This year we are celebrating our 30th anniversary. I'm proud of the value that we have delivered to patients and to shareholders and I'm also proud of the way we have done. And looking to the coming years, we are confident that we have many opportunities for value creation that far exceed the substantial value that we have delivered thus far. Intent to continue to build value for patients and shareholders as we continue to deliver revenue and earnings growth, advance, broaden and expand our mature pipeline and continue to advance our technology platform. We are particularly excited that in addition to advancing one of the largest rare disease pipelines in the industry, we also have a substantial pipeline of medicines in development focused on bringing benefits to patients with more common health issues. AKCEA-APO(a)-LRx for LP(a)-driven cardiovascular disease and IONIS Factor XI-LRx for clotting disorders are excellent examples of the potential transformative medicines addressing more common diseases that are advancing in our pipeline. Unlike others, who follow, we are creating substantial value by being leaders. We have led and we continue to lead in advancing RNA-targeted drug discovery. We have led and we continue to lead in creating maximum value for patients by addressing novel molecular targets that have potential to revolutionize the treatment of many diseases. And we are leading and focusing on maintaining our long-term innovation and identifying the optimal organization to commercialize each of the medicines in our pipeline, treating each medicine as the precious asset than it is. Because of our business model, today, we are substantially profitable - sustainably profitable, while launching two new medicines, advancing our pipeline of more than 40 novel medicines and continuing to advance our technology. We are committed to continuing to lead the industry in innovation. In aggregate, these attributes separate us very clearly from our peers and are the foundation of our growing competitive advantage. With that, I'd like to turn the call over for Q&A. So Gary, if you could set us up, please?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from Chad Messer with Needham & Company.

Chad Messer

Analyst

One thing we learned at AAN, just sort of hanging around the posters and talking to people, is the idea or I guess it's a hypothesis that SOD1 reduction would be beneficial perhaps, even in patients that are - do not have SOD1-driven disease. Just wondering what you guys thoughts on that are? And whether it's possible in the future if we saw that pursuit clinically by Roche?

Stanley Crooke

Management

We agree with the notion. There are a variety of lines of evidence that suggests that lowering SOD1 could bring benefit in patients who have other forms of ALS. And I would reserve their response to the second question, Chad, for our partners in Biogen.

Chad Messer

Analyst

Biogen, yes, Biogen.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Did I say Biogen?

Elizabeth Hougen

Management

Yes.

Brett Monia

Management

Yes.

Chad Messer

Analyst

I misspoke earlier, sorry.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Paul Matteis with Stifel.

Benjamin Burnett

Analyst · Stifel.

This is Ben Burnett on for Paul. Just two quick ones. The first one on the TTR LICA program. Is there anything you can disclose, I guess, at this time with regards to the cardiomyopathy study that you're planning? And I guess have you made a decision internally about a comparator arm and could this include tafamidis?

Brett Monia

Management

Sure, Ben. This is Brett. As I mentioned - as we mentioned in the earnings call just now, we're wrapping up the Phase I study and the - our LICA follow-on is looking great, and we'll present some of that data in second half of this year. And we're putting the final touches on the Phase III designs not just for cardiomyopathy, but also for polyneuropathy. And our discussions with regulators have gone very, very well. Very pleased with how those discussions have proceeded. There's two things to think about when designing clinical endpoints, as you know. One is what it takes to get the drug approved and then second what it takes to get the drug successfully commercialized. And that's an important balance. Tafamidis has set a significant bar and cardiologists like to see outcomes they like to see hard survival improvements. And we think that, that will be of a very important component to the design of our Phase III study. We think it should be. We think it needs to be. Whether or not how tafamidis plays into that is to be determined. We're very pleased that tafamidis is approved, Biotech cardiac patients needed drug. There is nothing out there for them and we put Pfizer in bringing that to their finish line. But whether or not we would do a head-to-head for - against tafamidis or some sort of combination with it or those sorts of things we're just putting the touch - the final touches on that and those discussions are ongoing with Akcea and with regulators.

Stanley Crooke

Management

So Ben, it won't be too long before we're able to disclose with some position what the - what that study will look like.

Benjamin Burnett

Analyst · Stifel.

Okay. Understood. That's great color. I guess just one other quick one on the acromegaly, you mentioned you have a Phase II readout coming up. I guess I was just wondering if you could provide a little color on this. And I guess what would constitute success here? And I don't know if you said it, but is this top line expected this year?

Stanley Crooke

Management

The answer to the second question is, yes. We're excited about the growth hormone program. It too is a LICA form of the growth hormone drug. And while there are agents that are used in patients with acromegaly, they have very substantial limitations. And based on a fairly thorough examination of - in animal models of various types, we believe that our growth hormone drug could have significant advantages both in side effects and efficacy compared to the existing agents. And that study is designed to give us initial guidance about whether our expectations are going to be achieved. So it's an important study. It's - it rolled quite a bit faster than we expected. Blind to safety tolerability are pristine, like the rest of our LICA drugs. So we're looking forward to sharing the data with you. We are looking forward to having exciting results.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mani Foroohar with SVB Leerink.

Rick Bienkowski

Analyst · SVB Leerink.

This is Rick dialing in for Mani. And congrats on all the data updates at AAN. I had a couple of questions about SOD1-ALS. My first is, today, how common is the genetic screening of ALS patients? I guess I'm trying to get a sense of how many patients with SOD1-ALS are currently identified today? And how easy or difficult it will be to identify eligible patients once tofersen is approved?

Stanley Crooke

Management

Well, first of all, thanks for the kind comments, and I'll turn the question over to Frank.

Frank Bennett

Analyst · SVB Leerink.

Yes. So in major medical centers that treat ALS patients, almost all the ALS patients are screened for genetic variance that cause ALS. That's largely driven by the C9orf72 mutations with there, a lot of new patients being identified. For those patients who have SOD1-ALS, it's been in their family for generations. And so many of the families now have seen a parent or a cousin or a brother succumb to the disease so it's pretty quickly, genetically identified that they're at risk for the disease. And I guess - I would guess with this data, screening is going to be ramped up. And so I would anticipate that there are more patients that will be identified that have SOD1 mutations as a contributor to ALS.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Do you want to comment on the number of patients that are currently identified as having a SOD1-driven ALS?

Frank Bennett

Analyst · SVB Leerink.

So approximately 2% of the patients - 2% of all the ALS patients have SOD1-ALS patients. So that's probably, in the U.S., close to 1,000 patients and the similar number in Europe. They are identified and they do anticipate that that number will increase with the data that we just announced.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Thanks, Frank.

Rick Bienkowski

Analyst · SVB Leerink.

That's very helpful. And just - speaking more generally about the programs and ALS. Could you share with us if there have been any learnings or takeaways from the tofersen clinical data that are helping to shape the way you're thinking about the development of treatments for the C9orf72 ALS?

Frank Bennett

Analyst · SVB Leerink.

Yes. I mean, what we identified with the SOD1-ALS is that, it's really the first drug to ever be put into patients that's on target. So we know what causes the disease. And it - the drug directly targets the toxic protein that's being produced. And so that gives us a lot of confidence that for another genetic variant of ALS, the C9orf72 patients that by directly targeting the gene that causes the disease and reducing that toxic protein that we have a high probability of being successful, we still have to prove that in the clinical stage, but that gives us a lot of confidence. There are some movements that we're learning along the process as far as what clinical endpoints are - good solid clinical endpoints to use in the clinical studies. And we are incorporating those into the study and then we're eliminating some other endpoints that weren't that valuable for SOD1 patients in interpreting the data. So it's helping to streamline the C9orf72 for that program.

Stanley Crooke

Management

And I think more broadly, it's just another manifestation of the value of having multiple entries in disease categories that are of strategic importance. That aggregate learning that one achieves by having multiple medicines for ALS, multiple medicines for Alzheimer's, multiple medicines for NASH and other problems, it's just tremendously valuable. And the other thing that we learn from every study since we have this integrated safety database that we publish all the time on is we learn a great deal about the safety tolerability of our agents as affected by disease and affected by the different sequences that are in those medicines. So specifically to ALS, a lot has actually been learned as is being learned, but more generically, that strategy we think is really paying important dividends for us, particularly, with the comments and behaviors of AOSs of similar - of the same chemical class.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from David Lebowitz with Morgan Stanley.

David Lebowitz

Analyst

I was just curious if you could remind us on the size of the EAP program for TEGSEDI? How many - how big was the program? And I guess, how much of it has been transitioned thus far to commercial drug?

Stanley Crooke

Management

Brett?

Brett Monia

Management

Sure. David. Akcea has not disclosed details on the numbers of patients in the EAP nor how many of those patients constitute the sales that they presented yesterday. What we can say is that we have a very nice mix of patients on commercial right now from the EAP, OLE as well as a lot of new scripts as well. The scripts being written and the balance --and we're pleased about the balance between them, the EU and the United States as well. But those details are still - haven't been disclosed.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Yes. To say it simply, the number of new prescriptions is key factor that we're watching and of that and what fraction of those come from our naive patients as opposed to those that have been previously exposed to TEGSEDI, and we're pleased with what we're seeing.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Jim Birchenough with Wells Fargo Securities.

Yanan Zhu

Analyst

This is Yanan dialing in for Jim. So first question is on SPINRAZA in adult patients. Could you talk about your experience in terms of efficacy, for example, for SPINRAZA in adult patients because it's a value driver due to the high prevalence? And also, I think, at SGCT, one doctor or presenter mentioned that some centers may not be treating adult patients due to control data. Could you talk about maybe the extent of that kind of situation?

Stanley Crooke

Management

Of course, what we know is, does not drive from randomized placebo-controlled trial. But what we have learned is the SPINRAZA appears to produce similar quality of responses and character of benefit in the adult patient as in the adolescent as in infants and the child with SMA. And I would refer you to Biogen for the - to answer the second question.

Yanan Zhu

Analyst

Got it. Then on TEGSEDI. So just wondering, you commented that you have a preserved patient switching from competing medicines. Could you elaborate a little bit on that? For example, what drives patients to switch? And also perhaps, characterize a little bit more on your effort in increasing the diagnosis rate given that the vast majority of additional patients remain undiagnosed?

Elizabeth Hougen

Management

Yanan, it's Beth. So on the question regarding conversion. What we're seeing, our patients converting both in the U.S. and EU from both competitive products. And I think from our perspective and Akcea's perspective, TEGSEDI provides an important benefit in the independent so that it allows these patients through the subcu once weekly administration, and we believe that, that benefit is being realized in the marketplace. So that's our view on the conversions.

Stanley Crooke

Management

I think there's probably a great deal more information in the developing in patients who are converting. And there are issues with limited efficacy of perhaps one of the agents that's being used and their real issues with IV infusion and that sort of thing that are certainly drivers. But I don't think we know enough to comment definitively on the factors that are driving these conversions.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ritu Baral with Cowen.

Ritu Baral

Analyst · Cowen.

I wanted to ask you about another specific comment you made during the TEGSEDI launch. You mentioned that cardio - you're using cardiologists, neurologists and hematologists prescribing. Is that sort of the rank order of the distribution of prescribing physicians that you're seeing? And how is that mix as well as payer coverage of all being with continuing conversations with the payers and insurance plans?

Stanley Crooke

Management

Well, we don't - we're not going to answer exclusively the question of the number of - the ratio of physicians of various specialties because that numbers are going to change all the time. What I can say and I would again encourage you talk to our colleagues at Akcea for more detail, what we can say is that we are pleased with the kinds of specialties that are involved in prescribing TEGSEDI. And that's that you want to handle at a question?

Elizabeth Hougen

Management

In terms of - absolutely. In terms of payers with you - we've got - we're in - under contract with the top 10 payers in the country. We have relationships with all of the payers. We've got the vast majority of covered lives under contract. And so we're not seeing reimbursement as any of a detriment to TEGSEDI's commercial acceptance. We're having no issues there whatsoever. So we're very pleased with our relationships with payers.

Ritu Baral

Analyst · Cowen.

Are you finding that you're having conversations about value-based outcomes or agreements or any other conversations on prior authorization or separate with certain plans?

Elizabeth Hougen

Management

We're more than happy to enter into value-based agreements with payers, but in our conversations, they just haven't been interested in that. Our - their view is that for the patient population for TTR amyloidosis with polyneuropathy, that value-based agreements are just not meaningful. And so while we're open to the idea and continue to be open to the idea, we're not seeing that being requested from payers. And as I said, we've got TEGSEDI covered by the top - at least the top 10 and relationships with all the rest.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Which, again, I would refer you to our colleagues at Akcea for more definitive answers.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Eli Merle with Cantor Fitzgerald.

Eliana Merle

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald.

Congrats on all the updates at AAN. So just another question on the SOD1 program. At the 100 mg dose - if I'm looking at the poster correctly, it looks like you're seeing about, like, a 37% reduction in the SOD1 protein. I guess - what's your plans of the dose level going forward? And I mean, do you have plans the dose escalate further to, I guess, increase the SOD1 reduction? And I guess just to pose the question, like, why not try to maximize the reduction of SOD1?

Brett Monia

Management

Yes. So it's fair to recognize that the measurement is SOD1 in CSF, not SOD1 in CNS tissues. And so the SOD1 in CSF underestimates it now that's being reduced in spinal cord and motor cortex in the case of ALS. And so we've identified that, that was a dose that was more than adequate to produce clinical benefit in preclinical models, I should say. And so we're very happy with the doses that we've identified, and I don't anticipate this as exploring high doses for the studies.

Stanley Crooke

Management

I think even more important than that is how profound the evidence of benefit that was observed in three months study in the initial work that we've done. So optimizing dose in rare diseases is always a challenge and we think we've got a very effective dose, and I wouldn't preclude overtime that other doses and schedules that we study, but we're very pleased with the sort of responses we've gotten with this dose. We're going to continue to use it.

Eliana Merle

Analyst · Cantor Fitzgerald.

Got it. That's very helpful. And then, I guess, just on Huntington's, could you help us think about what we should expect in terms of further updates on the program as we progress through the year? I know you guys - it looks like you're scheduled to have a presentation at the Huntington's meeting in late June. I guess, how should we think about what we might see at that presentation?

Brett Monia

Management

Yes. So the Huntington's meeting in June is a patient meeting. And so they'll have a presence where they're presenting to the patients, but I would not expect the scientific update. We're looking for medical meetings in the latter part of the year or early next year to provide a next update on the open-label extension. And then the Phase III study, of course, that's a blinded study, so there will be no updates on that.

Stanley Crooke

Management

And once again, I'll refer you to Roche.

Brett Monia

Management

Yes.

Operator

Operator

The next question from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan.

Jessica Fye

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Maybe just a first one just following up on the acromegaly LICA product. What's the dosing frequency there? Is it comparable to the SST depot injections? And then what's the target reduction of growth hormone receptor? And how does that translate to IGF-I reduction?

Stanley Crooke

Management

Well, it's a weekly dosing like - no, it's monthly dosing like all of - like we're using for all of our LICA drugs. And as we have indicated for the rest of the LICA family of drugs, if we thought it would be better for the patient to go to quarterly dosing, it would be very simple for us to do it. Of course, we're reducing directly growth hormone receptor and in animals, we showed that there was an almost direct correlation between growth receptor reduction and you measure that with growth hormone binding protein in blood. And I guess - of course, we don't know yet what that relationship is in patients that's going - that is one of the primary questions we're asking in the study, which we - and we expect to have preliminary answers to that question and lots of others later this year.

Jessica Fye

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Okay. And then when we think about the TEGSEDI number reported for the quarter, it seems like share was about 20% just based on sales. I'm curious, if you're seeing signs pointing to better share overtime, maybe based on like feedback you're getting from Akcea? And if so, can you talk a little bit about what the leading indicators might be there?

Stanley Crooke

Management

Yes. Again, as we think about the launch of TEGSEDI versus our competitor, we remember that we are not a quarter behind. And so we compare that $7 million to the $12 million that was reported in the first quarter of this year. And so in that sense, we're very pleased with the market share that we have. I think it's still far too early to draw firm conclusions about what market share TEGSEDI will have versus others. I would let the numbers tell that as the year progresses.

Jessica Fye

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Okay. Great. And maybe just the last one. I think Novartis on their call was highlighting the durability of benefit with Zolgensma and I guess while acknowledging that maybe parents still want to do that all they can to treat kids with SMA. So I'm curious if you expect any disruption in type I knew starts on SPINRAZA when that product launches? Just any - or any kind of, like, lag in starting SPINRAZA in patients, can they go on gene therapy?

Stanley Crooke

Management

I do think that the data Roche presented are encouraging data - on Novartis, sorry. But I - the way I think of this is not about that drug or any other drug, but about SPINRAZA. SPINRAZA is proven to work and proven to work extraordinarily well. There are 7,500 patients on treatment. We treated patients for more than 6 years. We know - absolutely know that if we treat SMA patients before symptom onset that most of the infants mature and develop like normal healthy children, it's really hard to be healthy and we also know that we have great benefit and the longer we treat, the better in older patients. And finally, we have an established, essentially pristine safety database with many thousands of years of patient treatment. So as a parent, if I had a baby diagnosed with SMA, there is no way I would use another less studied agent with unknown levels of durable efficacy and side effects on my baby in place of SPINRAZA. So that speaking for myself, but I can't imagine many parents to feel any other way. One more question, and then we'll close.

Operator

Operator

And that question comes with I-Eh Jen with Laidlaw & Company.

I-Eh Jen

Analyst

Congrats on the progress. Just a follow-up on the tofersen that data release at AAN that Biogen provided some clinical data there including rating scale and long function improvement. So would you mind comment a little bit more or more details on what you see that data and how would that potentially translate to the ultimate benefits of the patients?

Brett Monia

Management

Yes. So the ALS FRS is standard rating scale for ALS. It's what all companies use for determining whether there is an improvement or decline in ALS patients' outcome. And generally, untreated in the general population, there's about 1 to 1.5-point drop per month in the disease. And over three months, that's 4.5-point drop, which I think is what they saw in the study as well for the general population. And in the rapidly progressing patient populations, it declines even faster. And what we observed is we stabilize the disease in these patients over three months. There essentially was no decline, which is truly remarkable in ALS patients. Generally, they're trying to ferret out small changes in the slopes of these declines and they are just not powered well enough to determine that effect. This is really the first study to show stabilization of the disease and more impressively, it stabilized the most rapidly progressing form of the disease in these patients. So there are a fewer at the posters at the meeting, but yes, they kind of swing through the crowded participants there that's one of the more exciting things that's happened in the ALS in the last 20, 25 years.

Stanley Crooke

Management

And I think it's a little too early to comment on the various components of the rating scale, but at least at preliminary first blush, it looks like the improvements are occurring pretty much across-the-board.

I-Eh Jen

Analyst

And just curious, do you anticipate or do the people anticipate the drug to get approved if the current trends, or at least short-term trend continues or maintain?

Brett Monia

Management

Yes.

Stanley Crooke

Management

Well, first thanks everyone for your attention and interest in the work that we're doing. I want to close by emphasizing our financial performance. Our business model is working and our first quarter financial results were very impressive and very impressive in the context of aggressively spending across the Board in every single element of the business. And so we think that puts us in a uniquely strong position to continue to expand and invest and we have great things to invest in. We have technology that's generating medicines in an extraordinarily efficient way and medicines that are truly transformational. And so this is indeed the beginning of another extraordinarily exciting year for Ionis and we'll be telling you about it. We look forward to talking about it in the coming months. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.