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Innodata Inc. (INOD)

Q3 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 12, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Innodata Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Amy Agress. Please go ahead.

Amy Agress

Management

Thank you, Stancy. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Our speakers today are Jack Abuhoff, CEO of Innodata; and Mark Spelker, our CFO, who joined Innodata last month. Mark retired recently from CohnReznick LLP, a leading accounting, tax and business advisory firm, where he served as an audit and technical consulting partner for 20 years. We hear from Jack first, will provide perspective about the business, and then Mark will follow up with a review of our results for the third quarter. We'll then take your questions. First, let me qualify the forward-looking statements that are made during the call. These statements are being made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 as amended and Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended. Forward-looking statements include, without limitation, any statement that may predict, forecast, indicate or imply future results, performance or achievements. These statements are based on management's current expectations, assumptions and estimates and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, the expected or potential effects of the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, pandemic and responses of government with the general global population, our clients and the company thereto; that contracts may be terminated by clients; projected or committed volumes of work may not materialize; continuing Digital Data Solutions segment reliance on project-based work and the primarily at-will nature of such contracts and the ability of these clients to reduce, delay or cancel projects; the likelihood of continued development of the markets, particularly new and emerging markets, that our services and solution support; continuing Digital Data Solutions segment revenue concentration in a limited number of clients; potential inability to replace projects that are completed, canceled or reduced; our dependency on content providers…

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Thank you, Amy. Good morning and thank you for joining our call. Today, we're reporting third quarter revenue growth of 5% sequentially as well as 5% year-over-year. What's exciting is that based on trends across all lines of our businesses and market opportunities and in order to position us for 20% growth in coming years, a level of growth that we have not seen for almost 10 years, our 2021 plan contemplates nearly tripling the size of our sales team and adding resources and budget to our marketing lead gen teams. As a result of operating leverage in the business, we would anticipate cash flow growth to outpace revenue growth and cover increased investment. Our confidence is grounded in the accomplishments this year. We have successfully expanded our addressable market through new product and service offerings, and we have established product market fit with these new offerings and demonstrated the ability to win against incumbents. Let me give you some color on what we were seeing and executing on the ground. In our core digital solutions business, we are now primarily focused on the AI data preparation market that was estimated 1.9 billion this year, and is expected to grow to 3.2 billion by 2023. We believe that this is a major order market for us in which customers' priced data quality above anything else, which means we're able to bring to the task our 25 years of family owned skills and technology that we developed to create near perfect data for leading information companies. As a result, we're winning deals in the AI data preparation market against several incumbent providers. We've launched our AI data preparation offering late in Q4 last year and to date we have closed 18 new customers and we have another 20 or so in…

Mark Spelker

Management

Thank you, Jack. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to review our financial performance for the third quarter of 2020. Total revenue was $14.6 million in the third quarter of 2020, a 5% increase from $13.9 million in the second quarter of 2020. Total revenue was $13.9 million in the third quarter of 2019. Net income was $0.2 million in the third quarter of 2020, or $0.01 per basic and diluted share, compared to a net loss of $0.4 million or $0.02 per basic and diluted share in the second quarter of 2020 and a net loss of $0.6 million or $0.02 a share, basic and diluted in the third quarter of 2019. For the first nine months of 2020, total revenue was $42.9 million, an increase of 4% from $41.2 million for the first nine months of 2019. Net loss was $0.6 million or $0.02 per basic and diluted share in the first nine months of 2020. Net loss was $1.7 million or $0.07 per basic and diluted share in the first nine months of 2019. Our cash and cash equivalents were $15.3 million at September 30, 2020, compared to $10.9 million at December 31, 2019. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Tim Clarkson at Van Clemens Capital.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Hi, guys. Hi, Jack. Just a couple of questions here. First of all, just I have a banker client and he always looks at the bottom line and he noticed that Agility is still losing money. I guess through the six months, they lost about $600,000 or something. Anyhow, he was just wondering when do we expect that division to finally start to making money?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Hi, Tim. Great question. Thank you for that. So, the Agility business, we've – especially if you look late this year and you'll see it we believe next quarter also, we've gotten it in a position where we're lean and mean relative to operating costs and free cash flow generation, I think we've seen that come up and we're going to see that next quarter as well. The important thing in the Agility business is, of course, that the operating leverage is huge, it’s a SaaS business. You're seeing 90% or so of revenue hit the bottom line. So the real key there is growth. We've achieved a tremendous amount with the product. The product is ranked as a leader in its addressable market. And it's our intention to start to significantly expand the sales force and expand lead generation. Next year, we are – even in this environment, we're seeing that the return that we're getting on sales makes economic sense. And we think it's time to dial-up revenue growth.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Sure. Can you comment on the potential value of Agility if it was full based on comparables?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Sure. So there have been a few deals that we've seen in the market over the last 12 or 18 months. I think the one of the highs – high comps that we saw was 5x revenue and the median comp was about 3x revenue.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Do you think realistically that you could – you can put a 3x value on Agility, I mean, theoretically, or is that unrealistic?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

So I think when we look at our plans, we are looking at – forward-looking – 30% or more forward-looking compounded annual growth rate. We think that with revenue growth we're going to be hitting our target margins. So we're going to be moving into rule of 40 territory very, very quickly. I think that the kinds of valuations we're seeing in the market for this kind of business are – what we're seeing and there's no reason that those shouldn't apply to us as well.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Sure. Okay. On the bigger picture here, I guess, it's all about accurate data. Can you just give some color on the logic between radically expanding your sales force? Was it from 15 to 58, I guess, it was as you said in the press release?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Correct. So we did a deep dive just this summer into strategy in each of our businesses and the numbers look really good. And they justify expanding sales force in all of our businesses, in the core of the business. The key for our strategy is that we're taking exactly what we know how to do, the creation of high quality near-perfect data that used to be a requirement only of a couple of handfuls of information companies and now with the requirement of almost any company that is embracing AI. So it's a huge opportunity for us. We're winning customers from people, who have been focused on that market exclusively for some time now. We just entered that market in Q4 and we're winning. So it's clearly time to dial that up. And our confidence that the market there is expanding is confirmed by analysts, who are saying that market is going to be – going from $1.5 billion now to $3.5 billion in just a couple of years. And it's also you were talking about recent market comps. It's also confirmed by market comps that we're seeing right now in that market. One of our competitors, Lionbridge, sold its $200 million AI data prep business I believe it was just last week for 5x revenue. So, I mean, clearly there are a lot of sophisticated people looking at this market opportunity and understanding it for what it is.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Sure. I know you've mentioned to me offline that you’ve had a 70% close ratio when you're able to demonstrate the accuracy of your data. Is that still happening?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Yes, that's still holding up and not only our – is that holding up, but I think we may even see some expansion in that. The only thing is that we seem to not close our things that just aren't moving forward for one reason or another. But when you look at just how critical high accuracy data is to successfully operationalizing AI and creating sound analytical models, people want that high quality data, it means everything. It's the difference between the success and failure or success and extraordinary success. So we're – that's what we've been doing for the last few decades is figuring out how do you create near-perfect data and AI has broadened our requirement, it's moving past experimentation stage of many, many businesses. It's moving beyond voice – or excuse me, moving beyond images to voice and text and we're just really excited to be part of that right now.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

All right. How about – on the Synodex division, can you give us additional color on how your relationships with these life insurance companies are going?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Our relationships are going very, very well. We're renewing clients as they come up for renewal. As I mentioned in the call, we've seen – looking at the past nine months, 26% year-over-year growth, looking out to next year, we see that growth accelerating, a couple of drivers there. We're finding some new markets for what we do, number one. Number two, we are successfully integrating our document intelligence AI into that platform, which makes it even more powerful. So, a lot of excitement there as well, and like the other markets we're also expanding our sales force for Synodex as well.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

Sure, sure. Well, I'll do one last analogy and get off the call. I mean, my – the way I look at Innodata, it's almost like you guys have the only gasoline [indiscernible] that is clean and makes the engine spur and the other customer – the other competition has gasoline with sugar in it and when they put it in the cars, it sputters. So, who wants to do business with people like that?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Well, thank you, Tim. I'll be sure to quote you in some of our new proposals. I like the analogy.

Tim Clarkson

Analyst

All right. Great, thanks. Okay. I'm done. Thanks.

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from [indiscernible].

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, Jack.

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Hi, Dan. Good morning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Congratulations on a nice quarter.

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Thank you so much.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

You're very welcome. My question is around recurring revenue and in contract value on your new AI contract. Can you talk a little bit about how you see that business developing in terms of recurring revenue and what you're targeting net annual contract values to be with – in the business you're getting?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Sure. So it's still early days for us. We are seeing that there's a pretty big spread in terms of the ACV value of or the TCV value of engagements that we're signing. And they're ranging from several million dollars to $50,000. One of the things that we are seeing is that by virtue of the way AI is operationalized, it always requires a continuous feed of refined and improved data. So, we believe that these projects will have a recurring revenue component to them that seems to be playing out well. Most likely there will be an upfront kind of heavy lift and then an ongoing maintenance component to that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then one question around Agility; what do you estimate the total addressable market is for Agility?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

So if you take the total addressable market for PR communications and communications intelligence, it's about $3.5 billion you back out of that newswire, then it comes down to about $2 billion, $2.5 billion. So that's what I would consider our addressable market. We are reselling other newswires, that are integrated into our platform now, but I think the core market is the targeting and the monitoring piece and that's about $2 billion, 2.5 billion.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And then with your annual contract value on that, do you have like an average or something that you target for those subscriptions that you are selling there?

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Yes. So it's probably about $5,000 to $7,000 for the SaaS platform. The retention rate there is about 80% on a gross basis, but we get about 10% uplift on in terms of increasing feeds and increased content and things like that on renewables typically. On the managed services side, average revenue per customer is probably closer to about $35,000.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. All right. Great. Well, that answers my questions. Thank you, and congratulations on your progress.

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] It appears there are no further questions at this time. Mr. Abuhoff, I'd like to turn the call back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Jack Abuhoff

Management

Thank you, operator. So I'll probably provide some key closing thoughts. First, we're very pleased to be able to share with you this level of confidence in our business, especially in such trying times. We're expecting to deliver growth in 2020 both on a consolidated basis and across our business segments. Looking out to next year, while there's clearly macroeconomic risk and it's a tough environment in which to predict how companies will budget, we're making investments to position our organization for 20% growth in coming years on a consolidated basis. And we believe that growth will be supported by growth in each of the underlying businesses in which we're confidence across the board. We continue to have a strong balance sheet with $15.3 million in cash at the end of Q3, which was an increase of $1.8 million over Q2. And I'll just close by thanking everybody for having joined us today. We'll look forward to reporting our continuing progress.

Operator

Operator

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