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Operator
Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the Incyte Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Michael Booth, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Michael Charles A. Booth - Vice President-Investor Relations
Management
Thank you, Diego. Good morning and welcome to Incyte's second quarter 2015 results conference call and webcast. The slides in today's presentation will be made available for download on the investor section of incyte.com after the call concludes. Hervé Hoppenot, our CEO, will begin with a few words summarizing the quarter, and then Barry Flannelly, who leads our U.S. organization, will provide a commercial update on Jakafi. Rich Levy, who is in charge of Incyte's drug development activities, will update you on our clinical portfolio. And Dave Gryska, our CFO, will describe our second quarter financial results. Then we'll open up the call for Q&A, for which we'll be joined by Reid Huber, our Chief Scientific Officer, and Kevin Harris, VP-Global Product Strategy. On the call today we will be discussing Jakafi, which is FDA-approved for patients with intermediate or high-risk myelofibrosis and for patients with polycythemia vera who have had an inadequate response to or are intolerant of hydroxyurea. In addition, we'd like to remind you that some of the statements made during the call today are forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our expectations for 2015 guidance, the commercialization of Jakafi, our development plans for Jakafi and other indications and for other compounds in our pipeline. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results to differ materially, including those described in our 10-Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2015 and from time to time in our other SEC documents. With that, I would now like to pass the call to Hervé for some opening remarks. Hervé Hoppenot - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you, Mike. And good morning, everyone. We have had a very successful quarter on both the commercial and the clinical development side. And…
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Operator
Thank you. Our first question today comes from Matt Roden with UBS. Please state your question.
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Matthew M. Roden - UBS Securities LLC
Analyst
Great. Thanks very much for taking the question, and congrats on all the progress here. I wanted to – in the spirit of your now $1.5 billion peak sales estimate in the MPNs alone, I wanted to think about this year. And if I just apply sort of trends from prior years to your current first-half sales, I can get to numbers north of $600 million for this year. Just wondering, as you think about your guidance and the scenario, analyses and sensitivities to your numbers, if there is something that you're seeing that should rule out that type of possibility? And then related, just wanted to know if you could talk about maybe the real-world experience of PV vis-à-vis the clinical trial experience, particularly with discontinuations. One of the remarkable points in our opinion of the Phase III PV studies was the very low discontinuation rate. So just wondering if you're seeing the same thing in the real world. Thanks very much.
Hervé Hoppenot - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thanks for the question. I will – on the first part of your question, I think the way you can look at the guidance is looking at the year-to-year growth rate that we are speaking about here, which is in the high 50s% to 60% growth from 2014 to 2015, and it's an acceleration of the growth. And I think it's reflecting the success of Jakafi in PV. Concerning the rate of discontinuation, maybe, Barry, if you want to speak about that.
Barry P. Flannelly - Executive Vice President & General Manager: Sure, Matt. The best data that we have, as Rich just pointed out, is from the 80-week RESPONSE data looking at 83% of the patients still receiving therapy at 111 weeks. Now of course we only have six months really of experience with the launch of PV indication and we do begin to see a separation, just a little bit, between the persistence on MF and PV. But you would expect that. So in fact we'll have to see a lot more data, a lot more patients on Jakafi for PV, to get a real understanding of the long-term persistence, but the clinical trial data gives us confidence.
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Matthew M. Roden - UBS Securities LLC
Analyst
Great, thanks very much, and congrats on the progress.
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Operator
Our next question comes from Eric Schmidt with Cowen & Co. Please state your question.
Eric Thomas Schmidt - Cowen & Co. LLC: Thanks for taking my question and congrats also on the progress. Maybe another one for Barry. I think in the past Incyte has been fairly explicit that it expects the PV launch to be more gradual than that in MF given I guess less urgency to treat. Is that still your view, with a good trajectory here that you're seeing? And in terms of the long-term guidance of $1.5 billion, maybe you could provide a target year for that guidance and a rough peak split between the two indications. I assume over time you think PV might be larger than MF.
Barry P. Flannelly - Executive Vice President & General Manager: Yeah. Thanks, Derek. We're very excited about the launch in polycythemia vera. We've gotten great uptake we think from our physicians who have patients who have PV who have prior hydroxyurea therapy. But I think, as we pointed out in the past, it's patient by patient, physician by physician. One of the things I learned from a meeting we had with a group of physicians recently who treat PV patients is they really only see their patients about six times per year and that's to their office. So in fact the physician may only see their patients a couple of times a year and mid-level providers are seeing the patients the other times. So really they have to see the patient and then identify that they have symptoms or they're uncontrolled on their current therapy in order to make a treatment decision to switch that therapy. So it is gradual, but it's consistent and we are really excited about what we've accomplished so far.
Hervé Hoppenot - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: On the second part of the question for splitting the sales between MF and PV, frankly we don't intend to do that. And there are a number reasons for it, but one of them is that it's not absolutely clear that for some patients if they have an actual diagnosis of MF or PV because there are a number of cases where it's not easy to see it. What we believe over the long term, there is a guidance that we are giving of $1.5 billion is peak sales guidance, so it's something that you should look at in the longer term in the life of the product.
Eric Thomas Schmidt - Cowen & Co. LLC: Thank you.
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Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Cory Kasimov with JPMorgan. Please state your question.
Cory W. Kasimov - JPMorgan Chase & Co.: Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for taking the question. Also add my congrats on a good quarter. Similar to what Matt had asked, I wanted to also go into the potential differences in the real world experience for PV from a duration standpoint. And obviously it's way too soon to say where this is ultimately going to settle out just given how robust the duration data was in the Phase III. So I realize this isn't apples-to-apples, but can you remind us of how Jakafi's real-world duration in MF has compared with clinical trials? And then I have a follow-up pipeline question.
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: So we've never been particularly quantitative about what the actual median duration of treatment is in the marketplace in MF. But it clearly was shorter than we saw in the clinical trials where the median duration of treatment was about three years. So I wouldn't be surprised personally if in the marketplace PV is a little bit less or somewhat less than it is in the clinical trials, but I would also think that the relative duration of treatment in the clinical trials of PV to MF would likely be borne out in clinical practice as well, but I can't really get quantitative about it.
Cory W. Kasimov - JPMorgan Chase & Co.: Okay, understand. And then for baricitinib, is there anything that you can say as opposed to just differing to Lilly on the potential next steps for the diabetic neuropathy indication?
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: So they're in the process of trying to finalize plans for potential registration study. That includes discussions with outside experts as well as regulators. And until such time as their decisions are made, then they'll propose that to us as to whether or not we want to participate. We really can't say anything in specific other than the data from the Phase II was unexpectedly strong, and we believe that Lilly will go forward in some manner.
Cory W. Kasimov - JPMorgan Chase & Co.: Okay. Great. Thanks for taking the questions.
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Operator
Thank you. Your next question comes from Michael Schmidt with Leerink Partners. Please state your question.
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Michael W. Schmidt - Leerink Partners LLC
Analyst · Leerink Partners. Please state your question.
Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. I had another one on the PV launch. To what degree has your co-pay assistance program affected the gross-to-net adjustment? And the second question on the pipeline, how should we think about news flow from the epacadostat PD-L1, PD-1 combination trials? Thank you.
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: So for the first question, the biggest part of our gross-to-net is really Medicare rebates, Medicaid rebates, VA, Department of Defense and 340B. So the co-pay Foundation is really a minor part of it. The biggest ones are really the government rebates.
Barry P. Flannelly - Executive Vice President & General Manager: So on epacadostat, our IDO1 inhibitor, all four of the trials are moving along well, and we're in discussions with each of our partners about the appropriate timing of potential abstract submissions to medical meetings as well as if the data are robust enough moving forward into registration trial. So we can't be specific, we've said in the past, but certainly the latest that we would have data in the public domain would be some time next year.
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Michael W. Schmidt - Leerink Partners LLC
Analyst · Leerink Partners. Please state your question.
Great. Thank you.
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Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ying Huang with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please state your question.
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Ying Huang - Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please state your question.
Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First one on PV here and in terms of new prescribers that use the drug for PV, are you also seeing a spillover effect from the doctors who may also use ruxolitinib in MF? And then secondly on the run rate for MF, are you seeing more new patients or kind of a plateau of new patients getting on to therapy for MF in this quarter? Thank you.
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: Sure. In terms of prescribers, as you can imagine the vast majority of prescribers for both MF and PV are the same docs. It just so happens that we found a group of prescribers that hadn't experienced the use of Jakafi in MF and once they started using the drug in PV they may in fact have MF patients that they then prescribe for. And the second question was...
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Ying Huang - Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please state your question.
Oh, in terms of quarterly new patient as addition (27:15)
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: Sorry, we continue to have a steady, consistent growth in MF patients. We think that the growth in MF is going to contribute well to the full-year sales this year. And both MF and PV new patients continue to grow.
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Ying Huang - Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please state your question.
Thanks.
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Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Ian Somaiya with Nomura. Please state your question.
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Ian Somaiya - Nomura Securities
Analyst · Nomura. Please state your question.
Thanks and congratulations on a great quarter. One question on just the sort of the market dynamics. I was wondering if you could speak to the payer mix as you launch into PV. And a question on IDO. Is there a scenario where you would have enough data in-house to be confident enough to announce start of pivotal studies prior to the data presentation at ASCO next year?
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: Sure. So I'll take the first question. In terms of payer mix specifically for PV, we think it's a slightly younger population, so you might see a little bit less Medicare patients. But it's pretty much consistently the same. And in terms of commercial payers, it's exactly the same and coverage really hasn't been an issue for PV.
Barry P. Flannelly - Executive Vice President & General Manager: So on the IDO progress, I mean we have certain meetings that come up and they control the timing of when there is detailed presentations of the data. But that doesn't drive the timing around our decisions to move into registration trials. So if the data are sufficiently robust before then, we would not be waiting for ASCO to announce something; it could happen sooner.
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Ian Somaiya - Nomura Securities
Analyst · Nomura. Please state your question.
Is it possible for you to give us some sense of timing when you would have in essence enough data to make that decision?
Barry P. Flannelly - Executive Vice President & General Manager: Not really. I mean, there is quantity of data and then there is direction of data and they're both important to being able to make those decisions. So I really don't want to try to get into prognosticating when that might be.
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Ian Somaiya - Nomura Securities
Analyst · Nomura. Please state your question.
Okay. Thank you.
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Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Marai with Oppenheimer. Please state your question.
Michelle Gilson - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker): Hi guys, this is actually Michelle on for Chris. We're wondering how you look at your partnerships. We recall that a competitor had said on their call – Roche, actually – that their molecule has characteristics – this is in regards to IDO inhibitor – that their molecule has characteristics that are similar to and they feel pharmacologically superior to -they specifically cited your molecule.
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: So I think we're not going to comment on the preclinical profiles of the compound. I think most relevant is to see the emerging clinical profile and then we will have something that is better relatable to the emerging epacadostat profile. I'll say that we continue to be very pleased with potency, the safety, the pharmacokinetics of epacadostat in the ongoing program and see little opportunity for another compound that's also an IDO of one selective inhibitor to significantly differentiate. So our focus right now is on trying to maintain the competitive gap we have and we think that's a very important asset to the portfolio.
Michelle Gilson - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker): Right, great. And then just a follow-up to that. I guess are you guys looking towards spending maybe a little bit more to speed up the clinical development of your IDO and maybe your BRD too, the ones that are in very competitive spaces, to provide that competitive advantage, just when we're thinking about the profitability and balance sheet going forward?
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: So the amount of money that we're spending is not what is controlling the timelines at this point. I mean so first of all, if you look at the IDO studies that are being done with PD1 inhibitors, you need to start at a relatively low dose and you need to wait certain amounts of time before you can go to the next dose level and then you want to generate enough data within any particular tumor type to make a decision as to whether or not you're going to go forward or not. Each of those things are progressing as quickly as we had hoped. Throwing more money at it would not make it go any faster. What we are committed to is, should the data be robust enough, we are going to make a fast and large commitment to registration studies and remain well ahead of our closest competitors.
Michelle Gilson - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker): All right, great. Thank you, guys.
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Our next question comes from Matt Roden with UBS. Please state your question.
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Matthew M. Roden - UBS Securities LLC
Analyst · UBS. Please state your question.
Great. Thanks for taking the follow-up. As it relates to baricitinib, can you address the competitive landscape in rheumatoid arthritis, particularly any thoughts, Rich or Reid, you may have on recent filgotinib data, anything that is worth pointing out from a compare and contrast perspective? And then related, what are your expectations for the BEAM study in terms of the comparison to Humira? Thanks.
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: Okay. So with respect to the JAK1 selective inhibitor where there's Phase II data out there. I mean first of all, we believe that the Phase II data are quite acceptable, but Phase III is really going to be key and let me tell you a couple of reasons why. So first of all, we have seen with our own JAK1 inhibitor, and now it's confirmed also with the JAK1 inhibitor from Galapagos, that in order to see sort of the top range of efficacy you really need to get to high levels of JAK1 inhibition compared to the levels of JAK1 and JAK2 inhibition that you need with balanced inhibitors. And that level of inhibition is quite high. And it's not to say that there is a problem with that, it's just not been tested over the long term yet. So we need to see the Phase III safety data as much as anything else to see whether those levels of JAK1 inhibition are going to give you the type of safety profile that's needed to be successful in a drug for rheumatoid arthritis. Other things that we would say are that, even after you correct for trying to take out what the placebo responses is, there's still dangers in trying to compare across studies; head-to-heads are the gold standard, of course. And then finally, assuming that they are going to start Phase III studies approximately at the beginning of 2016, that would put them a full three years behind where baracitinib started Phase III and we would expect a full three years behind in terms of time to launch. You had another question?
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Matthew M. Roden - UBS Securities LLC
Analyst · UBS. Please state your question.
Yeah. I was going to ask about your expectations for the BEAM comparison to Humira?
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: Sure. So one of the big upside positives coming out of the data that's already been presented was the structure data coming out of a study that was about half the size of the BEAM trial. So I would expect that, given the designs of this trial, that that would be fine. With respect to the expectations against Humira, again with the difficulty of comparing across trials I think our results have been as good or numerically slightly better than historical data with Humira. The study is adequately powered that it has the potential to show superiority if the results are consistent with some of the data that we've seen. But simply having non-inferiority to Humira across the board for a drug that is orally – it's an oral once-a-day treatment we think would lead to an attractive profile.
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Matthew M. Roden - UBS Securities LLC
Analyst · UBS. Please state your question.
And what are the metrics we should be looking at? Is it the ACR scores or the DAS28 or is it the structural data?
Richard S. Levy - Chief Drug Development Officer & Executive VP: So the way that it works, and I can't get into all the details, is first you look at superiority to negative control arm, then you look at structure and then you look at non-inferiority to Humira I believe based on ACR20 but I'm not 100% sure. And then you start to look at potential for superiority both based on DAS and ACR scores and I just can't recall exactly what the order in which that is done. But certainly we expect to be able to get to those analyses while still preserving alpha to make a statistical comparison on efficacy.
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Matthew M. Roden - UBS Securities LLC
Analyst · UBS. Please state your question.
Super helpful. Thanks, Rich.
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Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks. Thank you.
Hervé Hoppenot - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Okay. Thank you for your time today and for your questions. So after a very successful Q2, we are looking forward to a series of very important and exciting events over the next several months and we look forward to talking to you again at our third quarter conference call in early November. So thank you and good bye.
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Operator
Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. All parties may disconnect. Have a good day.