Robert Lisy
Analyst · JMP Securities
Okay. That was a long question, I want to make sure I answer it properly. I think the first part that I really grasped, and I think was maybe the lead part of it is, we are spending a lot of time on positioning ourselves for the future. And that doesn't just include our presence at brick-and-mortar or how we go about brick-and-mortar. We think that we're doing really, really well at brick-and-mortar. We think that when you think about the fact that we're growing faster than the market in every one of our key countries, and significantly in many of them, while there's business still migrating in that, most of the marketplace, even some of the key competitors that are the lead players in the public market recognize that most of, if not all of their growth is coming from online, we recognize that in brick-and-mortar we're continuing to take share every day. But that's not enough for us because we recognize that we don't want to continue to be a bigger and bigger player in a smaller market as a percentage of the overall market than it was the previous day. So along with that, we've also grown our online business significantly, and we continue to spend time positioning that with both quality related to our quality of service with our online product. What I mean is really the front-end technology of it, the back room quality of service is the same, which we believe is industry-leading relative to our customer service on the back end. But the front end of that, along with our going after and tackling greater market shares online. And we've been positioning ourselves with that, as well as you know -- may or may not know about our card product, which we believe is also a differentiator, and it's a new vertical for us that kind of bridges a bit of the gap between brick-and-mortar and online where we're actually empowering, creating the opportunity for previously unbanked consumers that have been relegated only to retail brick-and-mortar, to have the opportunity to go to online if they'd like to. We've spent considerable time in the last 3 or 4 months positioning those. We're in the process of bringing in quality hires. We just made a hire to a person with significant background in the online business that will be joining us relatively soon. We're not ready to make an announcement yet, but we believe we've come to an agreement for that person to come on board. We're investing into recruiting a online marketer that can help us build that business. We've been investing heavily into our card product. Doing all these things and these investments, at the same time that we're continuing to invest really strongly in brick-and-mortar because we do recognize the weakness, and we don't want to call out any competitors, but we know of some quite large competitors that have struggled through this process, struggled because of some cases, liquidity issues where this drop-off in business has presented them with less cash flow than they normally have, so it's harder for them to make payments on time. And therefore, payers are either ending their relationship or consumers are just not using them because they're not as reliable. But all of that has allowed us to continue to take share there. But as I said, that's not enough. We're really positioning and spending our time in that knowing that the future -- a part of the future, there's a big part of the future that's brick-and-mortar. I know sometimes people don't want to hear that, but there is. But there's also a big part of the future that's online, and we're preparing and actively participating in that as well. And I think this time, we've used to do that. We've used this time to also take a look at our -- as any company, even though we're a smaller company, over time there's inefficiencies that get created. I mean, sometimes analysts and investors think, well, once you get to the efficiencies and it's a onetime thing. No, it's an ongoing thing because inefficiencies get recreated. It's like a spine. It gets back out of sync, and it needs a good lineup. And so we continue to do that on an ongoing basis. We've really started out -- and our objective on this when COVID started was to say, we want to make the turn of the year, the first half of the year, we want to make that turn more profitable than we did in 2019. And what we ended up doing is making that turn, I think, at about 13% up in EBITDA, at the turn and up dramatic -- relatively dramatically compared -- considering there's a pandemic out there in terms of revenue. So our objective was to continue to excel, take share at brick-and-mortar and then prepare for -- use this time to prepare to be stronger and better with our new products and new verticals. We've even, during this time, have looked at and nothing's materialized because we're not going to force things that don't make sense. Well, we looked at 2 or 3 acquisitions. And we still think there might be great ways for us to acquire new verticals that will add to our business that will be verticals that are not unrelated to what we do, but are different enough that will be very good mix for our current business. So we're actively looking at all that, building our team, bringing in quality people and focused on the future as well as understanding that we've got a great opportunity to take share at brick-and-mortar today.