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i3 Verticals, Inc. (IIIV)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 17, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to the i3 Verticals Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded, and a replay will be available starting today through November 28. The number for the replay is 877-344-7529 and the code is 9785901. The replay may also be accessed for 30 days at the company's website. At this time, for opening remarks, I would like to turn the call over to Geoff Smith, SVP of Finance. Please go ahead, sir.

Geoff Smith

Management

Good morning and welcome to the fourth quarter 2022 conference call for i3 Verticals. Joining me on this call are Greg Daily, our Chairman and CEO; Clay Whitson, our CFO; and Rick Stanford, our President. To the extent any non-GAAP financial measure is discussed in today's call, you will also find a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure by reviewing yesterday's earnings release. It is the company's intent to provide non-GAAP financial information to enhance understanding of its consolidated GAAP financial information. This non-GAAP financial information should be considered by each individual in addition to but not instead of the GAAP financial statements. This conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements, among others, regarding the company's expected financial and operating performance. For this purpose, any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical fact may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. You are hereby cautioned that these forward-looking statements may be affected by the important factors, among others, set forth in the company's earnings release and reports that are filed or furnished to the SEC. Consequently, actual operations and results may differ materially from those discussed in the forward-looking statements. Finally, the information shared on this call is valid as of today's date, and the company undertakes no obligation to update it except as may be required under applicable law. I'll now turn the call over to the company's Chairman and CEO, Greg Daily.

Greg Daily

Management

Thanks Geoff and good morning to all of you. I am pleased to report a strong finish to fiscal year 2022 and we are excited by what’s coming in fiscal year 2023. We set sequential records for revenue and adjusted EBITDA every quarter this year. Year-to-date revenue and adjusted EBITDA grew 42% and 44% respectively from fiscal year 2021 to fiscal year 2022. Our identity as a vertical market software company is more fully realized than ever. Software and related services are our largest source of revenue comprising 49% of total revenue in fiscal year 2022 up from 40% a year before and 26% a year before that. We love the recurring nature of software and related services. We also value payments as a platform because it provides another recurring revenue growth engine. More than 80% of our revenue in fiscal year 2022 came from recurring sources and sections of -- and add sections of our P&L continue to outgrow all others. We look for acquisition targets that have untapped recurring revenue sources and we continue to find great opportunities. One such opportunity as we previously announced our second largest acquisition to date Celtic Systems. Rick will share more. The Celtic is a perfect fit with our 2021 BIS acquisition. Celtic and BIS each have complementary best-of-class products for transportation departments at the state level. The cross-selling opportunities are compelling enough so we are better positioned to respond to RFPs. We can't wait to see how Celtic grows and landing this deal was an ideal start to fiscal year 2023. Now I'll turn the call over to Clay, he will provide you more details on our financial quarter performance. Following Clay's comments, Rick will provide an update on some role changes and address M&A, and then we'll open up the call for questions.

Clay Whitson

Management

Thanks, Greg. The following pertains to the fourth quarter of our fiscal year 2022, which is the quarter ended September 30, 2022. Please refer to the slide presentation titled Supplemental Information on our website for reference with this discussion. We had another great quarter with record revenues and adjusted EBITDA. Revenues for the fourth quarter increased 27% to $85.3 million from $67.2 million for Q4 2021, reflecting strong organic growth and acquisitions. Our revenue yield improved to 140 basis points for the quarter from 120 basis points for Q4 2021. Organic growth for this quarter was approximately 12%. Annual recurring revenues totaled $281.2 million for Q2 2022 compared to $210.8 million for Q4 2021, a growth rate of 33%. Organic ARR growth generally runs a few percentage points above our total organic revenue growth. Over 80% of our revenues in the quarter came from recurring sources. Software and related services remain the largest portion of our revenues, representing 49% for fiscal 2022. Payments represented 45% and other just 6%. Adjusted EBITDA increased 27% to $21.7 million for Q4 2022 from $17.1 million for Q4 2021, reflecting continued momentum in our Software & Services segment. Adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of revenues increased to 25.5% for Q4 2022 from 25.4% for Q4 2021, reflecting margin improvement in our Software & Services segment. For the fiscal year, the adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 30 basis points to 25%. Pro forma adjusted diluted earnings per share increased to $0.39 for Q4 2022 from $0.33 for Q4 2021. For the fiscal year 2022, pro forma adjusted diluted earnings per share increased to $1.48 from $1.05 for fiscal 2021. Again, please refer to the press release for a full description and reconciliation. Segment performance. Revenues in our Software & Services segment increased 40% to $51.8 million…

Rick Stanford

Management

Thank you, Clay. Good morning, everyone. First, I want to speak a moment about our two new executive team members, Paul Christians and Chris Laisure. Since 2019 acquisition, Paul has been leading the Pace Payment business for us and also leading our public sector unified product offering, or UPO process with great success. We are proud to announce his promotion to Chief Operating Officer at i3 Verticals. In this new position, Paul will continue to oversee our public sector UPO strategy, and he will expand that successful effort to include leadership of UPO and Healthcare. I have no doubt that Paul will replicate the public sector successes within our Healthcare vertical. UPO is critical to our overall company strategy as we integrate products within our existing vertical businesses to provide comprehensive solutions to our customers. Paul is a perfect fit for this role. Chris Laisure joined us as part of our BIS acquisition in early 2021. In his CEO role at BIS, Chris has led that business to impressive growth and has proven his deep understanding of the Public Sector vertical. He is now going to draw on that experience and will become the President of Public Sector, which is our largest vertical and is responsible for 50% of our revenues. Chris understands the ongoing needs of public sector customers across the country and will no doubt lead us to even more growth within that vertical. Paul and Chris are intelligent, seasoned, and effective leaders. Perhaps more importantly, they are quality individuals who will help encourage our high integrity, collaborative and entrepreneurial culture. We look forward to their many contributions. Before I discuss M&A, I want to make note of developments within our Education businesses. As K-12 education market begins to shift to post-pandemic environment, prices on school lunches have…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from John Davis with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

John Davis

Analyst

Hey, good morning guys. Rick, it's good to hear you talk about education as a pocket of strength. Maybe could you guys just remind us roughly what percentage of the business, either revs or EBITDA in education today and kind of where are those absolute kind of run rate levels versus pre-pandemic, are we back ahead of pre-pandemic education but just sizing that business would be helpful?

Rick Stanford

Management

J.D., I'll take that. In fiscal year 2022, education contributed $15 million of revenues and $7 million of EBITDA. That's where we were in 2019 pre-pandemic. School lunch hasn't come all the way back, but we've added a lot more school. So that's why we're even from where we were. For fiscal 2023, we think it will improve from 2022 because we just had a very -- we'll get four quarters of strong school lunch.

John Davis

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then I don't know if you would, Clay, I think based off of the guide you gave, our math suggests kind of roughly 10% organic growth implied versus kind of mid-single digit -- sorry, high single digits historically. Is that fair, obviously, I think you said, you did 12% organic growth in the fourth quarter but call it roughly 10% organic growth, is that fair for 2023?

Clay Whitson

Management

Yes, I feel like we're right on the edge. The past two quarters have been 10% and 12%. Q4 had a good software license quarter, which helped the organic growth. We don't know the macro environment for 2023 yet so it's hard for us to predict whether organic growth registers 9% or 11% for 2023. Double-digit is certainly our goal, but long-term, I think we have to continue to guide in high single digit, and we'd like to beat it like we just did this year.

John Davis

Analyst

Alright, last one for me. Nice to see good margin expansion. I think 150 basis points at the midpoint of the guide. I think a good portion of that is driven by some of these higher-margin acquisitions in Celtic specifically. But maybe just talk a little bit, Rick or Greg, about the pipeline, how you guys think about the margin profile of businesses in the pipeline, is this something we should continue to see as far as M&A coming on at a higher than corporate average margin to kind of choose some of that margin expansion going forward? Thanks guys.

Rick Stanford

Management

Yes, that's a great question. We do, I think, internally have a bigger focus on acquisitions that have higher margin. We're very happy with the previous deals we've done. We feel like we have a great couple of platforms in place, and when we do additional acquisitions, I think they'll look more like a traditional software business with EBITDA margins being 50%. So not promising that, but that is the goal, that's the target. Pipeline looks great doing four or five deals a year is kind of our mission.

John Davis

Analyst

Okay, appreciate all the color. Thanks guys.

Rick Stanford

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Peter Heckmann with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Peter Heckmann

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Good morning everyone. Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on the Celtic deal. I wanted to ask guys, so with Celtic where are they in their progression from a license model to software-as-a-service? And with some of those things you were talking about in terms of permitting, driver history records, is transaction revenue a part of it or is it primarily software?

Greg Daily

Management

Pete, I'll start on that. Celtic does have around a 50% margin, and so that is part of what you see in our guidance for 2023. They are not currently a SaaS model. Maybe 40% of their revenues are recurring in some form or fashion, but they really haven't begun to design a SaaS offering. But we will begin to do that now, but it's baby steps right now. What was your second question?

Peter Heckmann

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

So it sounds like there's no -- there would be really no transaction-based revenue in terms of...

Greg Daily

Management

No. Yes. No, I have currently have none, but again, we plan to try to introduce that particularly on new business.

Peter Heckmann

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Got it, got it. And as a follow-up, Celtic looks like -- I think in the press release, you said, four Canadian provinces but it looks like a couple of those they won a number of years ago, so fairly established in Canada. How do you think about Canada expanding the TAM for your Public Sector business, is there a way to think about that?

Greg Daily

Management

Well, it's exciting for us. We currently have several Canadian customers. The contracts are denominated in U.S. dollars. So the FX won't be very challenging for us. But yes, the whole new TAM, as you put it to explore and expand and add payments to, and we're very excited about that.

Peter Heckmann

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Great, I appreciate it. I will get back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from James Faucette with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

James Faucette

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you very much. First, your 2023 margin guide, I think implies around 150 basis points of year-over-year expansion. We've seen some margin pressures crop up in other, both competitors and comparables. How are you thinking about the puts and takes around your margins and where you're targeting for fiscal year 2023?

Greg Daily

Management

Well, Celtic adds about as almost as much as 100 basis points, just layering it in and at 50%. Corporate should contribute 50 basis points, it contributed 40 basis points this year in a challenging inflationary environment. T&E and trade shows have been a pretty big deal this year in fiscal 2022. That was $3 million higher than in 2021 as normal travel and in-person sales activities resumed, trade shows started taking place again. So we don't have that drag coming in 2023. Now there is general inflation so, we're not promising 150, but we have a pretty clear sight to margin improvement in 2023.

James Faucette

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Got it, got it. And then on the M&A front, you indicated that Celtic was kind of within your historical range of valuations that you paid. Given the environment and kind of your pipeline of deals, what's the opportunity for you to even find things that you can do at better valuations than you've done historically? And just wondering how we should think about that as a potential, especially given the overall environment right now?

Greg Daily

Management

We do self-source our deals from beginning to end, and we do explain to our targets that the market's down, valuations are lower. They tend to understand that. We lean more on -- we're building a team. We'll take care of your key employees. Here's 20 references for you to talk to. We just don't get involved in auction processes, and the story is very well received. They like what we've built, they like our reputation, they like our culture. So being able to pay seven or eight times versus we were paying, we paid up to 10, I think going forward, until the market changes, paying seven or eight is probably more the model going forward. Do you want anything to add, Rick?

Rick Stanford

Management

Yes, I would just say, we've been very successful in taking the business and growing it over time. So that overall multiple goes down over time. So if we start in that range -- and again, we're being very selective at this point. We're not at a break neck pace that we've done in previous years. Four or five deals a year of high-growth companies, really good structure and strategic software companies within our verticals. I don't think I mind paying the six to eight knowing that over time, we can grow that business to drive the multiple down overall.

James Faucette

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

That is great to hear. Thank you so much.

Geoff Smith

Management

Operator, do you have any more questions?

Operator

Operator

Yes. I apologize. My line was on mute accidently. I just unmuted Mark Palmer's line from BTIG. Please go ahead sir.

Mark Palmer

Analyst

Yes, thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. So far as software has been a growing portion of the company's overall revenue, how should we be thinking about the gross margins for software compared to gross margins for payments, and how do you expect consolidated gross margins to evolve over time, given that changing mix?

Greg Daily

Management

Mark, I'll refer you to Page 2 of our supplemental information, revenue composition and payment revenue is probably averaged 60% gross margins. The top three line items in our software and services revenue mix are probably 90% gross margin, recurring software services and professional services we aim for one third margins, but maybe count on 30% there. And then software licenses, the bottom number, that's probably 95% margin. And so as software and services become a bigger portion of our whole, it will lift our gross margin -- consolidated gross margin over time.

Mark Palmer

Analyst

Thank you and just one follow-up to that, what is the implied mix of software and payments in your 2023 guidance?

Greg Daily

Management

I don't have that number in front of me, but I'm confident software and services will go over 50% this year because Celtic today is 100% software and services.

Mark Palmer

Analyst

Very good, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our question-and-answer session. I'll turn the call back over to Greg Daily for closing comments.

Greg Daily

Management

Thank you, everybody. Thank you, our team. What an amazing year we had in 2022, and we're very excited about the momentum that we've got going into 2023. So with that said, thank you for your interest.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may all now disconnect.