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Insteel Industries, Inc. (IIIN)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Jan 16, 2020

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Company Representatives

Management

Howard Woltz - President, Chief Executive Officer Mike Gazmarian - Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Insteel Industries' First Quarter 2020 Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. H. Woltz, President and CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Howard Woltz

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for your interest in Insteel. Welcome to our first quarter 2020 earnings call, which will be conducted by Mike Gazmarian, our Vice President, CFO and Treasurer, and me. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of the comments made on today's call are considered to be forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risk factors are described in our periodic filings with the SEC. All forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and information that is currently available. We do not assume any obligation to update these statements in the future to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or new information. I'll now turn the call over to Mike to review the first quarter financial results and outlook for our construction markets, and then I’ll follow-up to comment more on business conditions.

Mike Gazmarian

Analyst

Thank you, H, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call. As we reported earlier today, the first quarter of fiscal 2020 proved to be another challenging period for Insteel as we continued to contend with oil price import competition and the consumption of higher cost inventory. Earnings per share for the quarter dropped to $0.03 from $0.19 a year ago, excluding last year’s $0.02 a share non-recurring gain related to the disposition of fixed assets. As we’ve conveyed on previous calls, our import competition is centered in certain of our PC strand and standard welded wire reinforcement markets where pricing pressure has intensified in the wake of the Section 232 tariffs on imported steel. The tariffs which apply to imports of our primary raw material hot rolled steel wired rod, but not to our finished products have driven domestic prices for wire rod substantially higher than global market levels and foreign competitors have leveraged this cost advantage to expand their market share. Weather conditions for the quarter were generally more conducive for construction activity as compared to a year ago when the near-record precipitation across our largest markets resulted in construction delays and deferred orders. Shipments for the quarter were up 11.7% from last year, but down 10.9% sequentially from Q4 reflecting the usual seasonal slowdown in demand. Average selling prices continued to decline during the quarter falling another 3.4% from Q4 reflecting the impact of the import-related pricing pressure together with domestic competitors’ efforts to backfill lost volume, as well as retain existing business. The price erosion was more pronounced in markets subject to import competition, which represented around 30% of our sales for the quarter with ASPs for these markets dropping 8.3% sequentially from Q4, as compared to only a 2.1% decrease for the rest…

Howard Woltz

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. As Mike indicated, our first quarter results reflects improving shipment trends relative to the prior year resulting from favorable underlying demand for our reinforcing products and a return to more normalized weather patterns. Looking forward, we expect construction market conditions will support continued growth and the demand for our products during fiscal 2020. While we are less than three weeks into our second fiscal quarter, we are pleased with the strength of our order book and the robust pace of shipments. As Mike indicated, steel scrap prices have rebounded for three consecutive months rising nearly $80 a ton from the October low. This upward momentum, together with stronger conditions in our markets has led us to a now surprise increase with an effective date earlier this month assuming the favorable market environment persists, we expect to take the appropriate actions necessary to recover our rising raw material costs and restore spreads in certain of our markets. Importantly, we believe the cycle of continually declining steel prices has run its course for now, which implies the opportunity for spreads to return to normalized levels. Not surprisingly, our first quarter financial performance was negatively impacted by the elevated level of import competition we’ve contended with following the imposition of the Section 232 tariffs and this will limit our ability to recover higher costs in markets that are been most severely affected. Foreign competitors continue to under price the domestic market to capitalize on the market distortions that have been created by U.S. trade policy. Since it appears the administration is firmly committed to the use of tariffs as a policy tool, the only reasonable resolution of these distortions is to extend the 232 tariff to downstream products. We’ve continued our dialogue with the administration and believe they understand the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Julio Romero with Sidoti. Your line is now open.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone. Wanted to ask what your sense is for industry inventory levels. As I understand it, they were pretty elevated as recently as last quarter. Do you have a sense as to the – your competitors’ inventory levels have maybe flushed out as well?

Howard Woltz

Analyst

Julio, are you referring at our level of the supply chain or our customers’?

Julio Romero

Analyst

At your level of the supply chain, in terms of your competitors having some elevated inventory levels.

Howard Woltz

Analyst

Okay. Yes, I mean, I think that that inventory reduction cycle has run its course. We actually receive some pretty solid data on inventories in the industry and it would indicate that inventories have reduced markedly over the last three quarters.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Okay, great. And on your capital expenditures, I saw you did less than maybe less than $1 million in CapEx at the quarter. Can you maybe remind us what you expect maintenance CapEx to be and with the $17 million in total that you expect for the year be sort of backweighted towards the back half of the year?

Mike Gazmarian

Analyst

Yes, well, we’ve remarked in previous calls that we tend to be slower in deploying capital than we initially think we will be and we look at a multiyear capital expenditure plan, it really has as much to do with internal resources as it does anything else. But, we’ve laid out these projects and we know the path we are pursuing is simply a question of lead times and our ability to execute on it internally. So, yes, it would be back-ended and there is always a chance that that spending comes up a little short of this estimate.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Okay. Excellent. And just last one and I’ll hop back into queue is, could you comment on the leadership change that you announced in December? Maybe some color on where you are and your search for a successor? And do you expect any material change in the company’s strategy?

Howard Woltz

Analyst

Well, right now, I am still in mourning that Mike is going to depart the company. But we are engaged in finding his successor and we have had a tremendous amount of interest in the position as we expected we would, but really there is really nothing else to say at this point other than that it’s a high priority for us.

Julio Romero

Analyst

Understood. And Mike, thanks for your help and your success over the years at Insteel. And I’ll hop back into queue. Thank you.

Mike Gazmarian

Analyst

Thanks, Julio.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Tyson Bauer with KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Good morning, gentlemen.

Howard Woltz

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Good morning, Tyson.

Mike Gazmarian

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Hi, Tyson.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

From the comments in your press release, is it safe to say that when you went into your budgeting for this year, you have considered the tariffs and the import pressure to be persistent throughout the year and if those things were to change, that may change some of your business operations. But for right now, heading into the year, you are running the business as if those will be present throughout the year.

Howard Woltz

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Yes, that’s correct. But we really haven’t changed – we haven’t changed our operations at all. We’ve sort of just touched through the import competition and I assume that that will continue absent some dramatic change in the landscape that we see.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Okay. Regarding the price increase then, if we are viewing the imports are going to be present, does that mean that the price increase is targeted to the non-import affected areas and on certain product lines? And also the implementation of that during your weakest seasonal quarter, we’ve had mixed results in the history of the company in doing that. When do you think you will start to see evidence of that working or not working?

Howard Woltz

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Well, it’s hard to say, Tyson. It’s a day-by-day exercise. You are correct and as we acknowledged in the prepared comments, it’s going to be difficult where import competition is already substantially under our pricing level. So our expectations I think are realistic there. But I would tell you that that one of the more relevant factors and whether price increases came – become effective or not is a strength of the order book and it’s strong. So, I think that this is certainly not a fantasy that we are working right now. I think that the conditions are conducive to our recovery costs and we’ve experienced just substantial margin compression. So, I think it’s also realized or it’s fair to expect that the spreads normalize at some point in time and that has to happen when market conditions are stronger.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Would it be fair to say that 70% of the business will likely have a positive benefit from those price increases and spreads widening while 30% may remain at constant levels or may have more challenges as far as their spreads depending on the level of imports then?

Howard Woltz

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Well, all of those things were at work, Tyson. I’d rather address that question next quarter.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Okay. Mike, SG&A, very favorable level. Is that’s something you are looking at be consistent as we go through the year, obviously depending on sales levels. But where do you see SG&A landing this year?

Mike Gazmarian

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Yes, I would expect it to bounce back up in the coming quarters. As I mentioned, we benefited from a favorable swing in the cash surrender of the life insurance policy that tends to be correlated with fluctuations in the financial market. So, going forward it would be a question of whether that continues to be a significant positive, that’s always a factor. And then, also the other significant variable cost will be the incentive comp pay which would fluctuate with our results and going forward over the remainder of the year, performance continues to improve then you may see a pickup in expense for that component.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Okay. Working capital outlook, if we are going to have some increase in our some of our raw materials there, obviously, we had the benefits in this past quarter. But where do you see your working capital needs for the year?

Mike Gazmarian

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Yes, I think – I think, we probably bottomed out as of the end of the quarter and you are likely to see an increase both in inventory levels, the modest increase there, as well as the usual seasonal pickup in receivables as we move into the busy season.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Okay. And a last question from me, H, on the prepared remarks or in the press release, you talk about strategic acquisitions. Is the environment with a stronger end-market in non-import affected areas and given your cash and balance sheet presence, are you looking for an industry shake out to take advantage of this year? Or why the specific mention that we could see more activity than what we’ve seen in the past?

Howard Woltz

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

I don’t think we meant to imply that you would see more than you’ve seen in the past, only that we are constantly looking for opportunities and certainly downcycles typically present some opportunities that upcycles don’t and we are attuned to that. But we’ve been attuned to it every quarter that we’ve held a call. So, there is no change there.

Tyson Bauer

Analyst · KC Capital. Your line is now open.

Okay. Thank you, gentlemen.

Operator

Operator

And I'm showing no further questions in queue at this time. I would like to turn the call back to Mr. Woltz for closing remarks.

Howard Woltz

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for your interest in the company and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.