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Icahn Enterprises L.P. (IEP)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 3, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Icahn Enterprises LP Q3 2017 Earnings Call with Jesse Lynn, General Counsel; Keith Cozza, President and CEO; and SungHwan Cho, Chief Financial Officer. I would now like to hand the call to Jesse Lynn, who will read the opening statement.

Jesse Lynn

Management

Thank you. The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a Safe Harbor for forward-looking statements we make in this presentation, including statements regarding our future performance and plans for our businesses and potential acquisitions. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that are discussed in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including economic, competitive, legal and other factors. Accordingly, there is no assurance that our expectations will be realized. We assume no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements should circumstances change, except as otherwise required by law. This presentation also includes certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial numbers can be found in the back of this presentation. I’ll now turn it over to Keith Cozza, our Chief Executive Officer.

Keith Cozza

Management

Thanks, Jesse. Good morning, and welcome to the third quarter 2017 Icahn Enterprises earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call is SungHwan Cho, our Chief Financial Officer. I would like to begin by providing some brief highlights; Sung will then provide an in-depth review of our financial results and the performance of our business segments. We will then be available to address your questions. For Q3 2017, we had net income attributable to Icahn Enterprises of $597 million or $3.53 per LP unit, compared to a net loss of $16 million or $0.12 per LP unit in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA attributable to Icahn Enterprises for Q3 2017 was $567 million, compared to $467 million for Q3 of 2016. Our investment funds earned a return of 5.1% in Q3 2017, compared to 6.5% in Q2 of 2016. Our Q3 2017 performance was driven by net gains in certain long equity positions and a single name short position, offset in-part by net losses from our equity index positions. Net sales for our Automotive segment in Q3 2017 were $2.5 billion, an increase of 6% versus the prior year period. The increase was primarily due to higher sales volumes at Federal Mogul, acquisitions, and favorable foreign exchange rates. In Icahn Automotive Group, we continue to make acquisitions of auto service centers and maintain an active pipeline of additional acquisition opportunities. On October 2, we announced the acquisition of American Driveline Systems. ADS is the franchiser of AAMCO and Cottman Transmission & Total Auto Care service centers with approximately 680 locations. With the addition of ADS, Icahn Automotive Group operates approximately 1,900 owned and franchised service locations. We will continue to pursue an aggressive growth strategy to expand our auto service center footprint. In our Energy segment, Q3 2017 net sales were $1.5 billion and consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $142 million. CVR Refining had a solid third quarter led by strong crack spreads and improved market condition. While CVR partners results were hampered by continued low U.S. nitrogen fertilizer pricing, and unplanned downtime at both facilities related to maintenance issues. In our real estate segment, we recorded a $456 million gain in the quarter related to the completion of the sale of the former Fontainebleau Las Vegas Property for $600 million. As a reminder, IEP originally acquired the Fontainebleau for a price of $148 million in February of 2010. In our Gaming segment, Tropicana delivered solid results for the quarter with strong performance improvements at its Atlantic City Property and St. Louis Lumiere property. During the quarter, we completed our previously announced tender offer, which increased IEP’s ownership in Tropicana to approximately 84%. As you can see, we closed the quarter - a very busy quarter with a strong balance sheet and good momentum and are very optimistic that the year-to-date successes will continue into the fourth quarter. With that, let me turn it over to Sung.

SungHwan Cho

Management

Thanks Keith. I will begin by briefly reviewing our consolidated results, and then highlight the performance of our operating segments, and comment on the strength of our balance sheet. Net income attributable to Icahn Enterprises was $597 million for Q3 2017, compared to a net loss of $16 million in the prior year period. As you can see on Slide 5, in Q3, 2017, IEP had significant income in our real estate segment associated with the $456 million gain recorded for the sale of the former Fontainebleau Las Vegas Property. We also had a solid performance in our investment funds with the return of positive 5.1% for Q3 2017. Adjusted EBITDA attributable to Icahn Enterprises for Q3, 2017 was $567 million, compared to $467 million for Q3 2016. Adjusted EBITDA does not include the gain from the sale of the former Fontainebleau Las Vegas. I will now provide more detail regarding the performance of our individual segments. Our Investment segments had a gain attributable to Icahn Enterprises of $138 million for Q3 2017. The Investment Funds had a return of positive 5.1% in Q3 2017, compared to a return of positive 6.5% for Q3 2016. Long positions had a positive performance attribution of 10.7% for the current quarter, while short positions and other expenses had a negative performance attribution of 5.6%. Since inception in November 2004 through the end of Q3 2017, the Investment Funds gross return is 130% or approximately 6.7% annualized. The Investment Funds continue to be significantly hedged. At the end of Q3 2017, net short exposure was 77%, compared to a net short exposure of 128% at the end of 2016. IEP’s investment in the funds was $2.9 billion as of September 30, 2017. And now to our Energy segment. For Q3 2017, our energy segment…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Michael Boam of Sona. Your line is open.

Michael Boam

Analyst

Hi. Thank you for the commentary. I would like to ask a couple of questions around the Automotive division. It’s been rumored that you are potentially look to sell the Fel-Pro business, can you comment on that particular rumor and where do that transaction stands? And then secondly, it’s been talked about an IPO for Icahn Automotive, would the IPO include certain mobile or just be the automotive business, again if it were to happen? Thank you.

Keith Cozza

Management

Yes, thanks Michael. We’re not going to be in a position to comment on neither of both questions. We will report something if there is ever something to report.

Michael Boam

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Dan Fannon of Jefferies. Your line is open.

Dan Fannon

Analyst

Hi, good morning guys. I guess another question just on the automotive sector just in terms of strategy, can you talk about kind of what you guys have been doing with regards to M&A on Icahn Automotive, and how does that kind of correlate with just the Federal Mogul business in terms of, is there some overlap there or kind of how we should think about the longer-term strategy for the segment?

Keith Cozza

Management

Sure. So, from Icahn Automotive Group M&A strategy, it’s been fairly obvious, right. Two years ago, we had 0 repair shops and now we have 1,900 between owned and franchise. So, it is a very fragmented industry. It’s probably 92% fragmented. The bigger chains, the biggest change in the country are 2,000 or 3,000 shops. So, we are trying to roll them up and get further density in our footprint, and create a real large national presence on the repair side. So that strategy is, you know we bought Just Brakes. We bought Pep Boys obviously to start off, we bought Just Brakes. We have a team that kind of rolls in ones and twos, you know small business shops or whatever and then we just purchased at the AAMCO and Cottman business. So, from that front, we really want to grow the repair side of the business. As far as overlap with Federal Mogul, obviously the Federal Mogul sells products, and the end user is people getting their cars repaired. So, it certainly is, part of a vertical integration and provides us an outlet for our products through to our own shops. But they are maintained as separate capital structures and frankly separate management teams and all that stuff because Federal Mogul has lots of customers. But we’re trying to be a very large customer, we’re getting bigger by the day.

Dan Fannon

Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful and I guess this is for you, the fund, you gave us a kind of net short position, can you talk just about kind of the broader concerns that you have if that’s changed, evaluation has been obviously out there, but I guess anything more macro arithmetic’s that you guys are thinking about around that positioning?

Keith Cozza

Management

Yes, I would say we - during the quarter and even frankly subsequent to the quarter we have been kind of adjusting hedges a little bit more frequently than we have historically based on some medium-term views around tax reform and the ability to get something done there and what will most likely be a boost to the market in the short-to-medium term. So, we have been adjusting the hedges around some of these macro events, but as far as on like the single name side, you know it’s - we've said this a lot, it’s hard to get real excited and you know for us, we run a relatively concentrated strategy, it’s hard to get too excited about single names where multiples where they are at. That being said, we are finding pockets of opportunities. We have one new name we’re working on, and that’s been building and we will see what happens, but it’s - we are value investors and this is obviously not a friendly market to value investors.

Dan Fannon

Analyst

Understood, and I guess just on the kind of preliminary tax stuff that would come out, I guess as you think about IEP and its structure and kind of how you guys do your hold co investments and everything, I guess is there any kind of implications that we should be thinking about for your business?

Keith Cozza

Management

Well, I mean I mean we're have a number of C corps within, you know certain businesses are run through C corps and some of those do have tax liabilities. So, obviously if the corporate tax rate were lower that would be net positive and everybody knows that the preliminary proposal is to take it down to 20%. So, I think that’s an incremental positive.

Dan Fannon

Analyst

Right value I guess is the IEP structure where you are obviously limiting your tax expense at the hold co, does that - and I get to C corp stuff I guess just I was thinking more at the IEP level.

Keith Cozza

Management

I don't - I mean at the IEP for the flow-through, you remember the C corps are obviously natural blockers so that doesn't flow-through to the IEP holder, but what does flow through, you know it is all derivative of what they do to personal rates. So, it’s a, you know they are lowering the rates for certain brackets. So, I suppose theoretically that the pass through will be, any income passthrough will be at lower tax rate for the individual, if they get that through.

Dan Fannon

Analyst

Okay, all right, thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

I currently have no more questions in queue.

Keith Cozza

Management

Okay. Thank you very much everybody. We look forward to talking to you in the New Year.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.