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Intellicheck, Inc. (IDN)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 14, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Intellicheck's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Gar Jackson, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Gar Jackson

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today for the Intellicheck Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. Before we get started, I will take a few minutes to read the forward-looking statement. Certain statements in this conference call constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, as amended. When used in this conference call words such as will, believe, expect, anticipate, encourage and similar expressions as they relate to the company or its management as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to the company's management, identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs about future events. As of any projection or forecast, they are inherently susceptible to uncertainty and changes in circumstances and the company undertakes no obligation to and expressly disclaims any obligation to update or alter its forward-looking statements whether resulting from such changes, new information, subsequent events or otherwise. Additional information concerning forward-looking statements is contained under the headings of Safe Harbor Statement and Risk Factors listed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Statements made on today's call are as of today, November 14, 2022. Management will use the financial term adjusted EBITDA in today's call. Please refer to the company's press release issued this afternoon for further definition, reconciliation and context for the use of this term. We'll begin today's call with Bryan Lewis, Intellicheck's Chief Executive Officer; and then Jeff Ishmael, Intellicheck's Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss the Q3 2022 financial results. Following their prepared remarks, we will take questions from our analysts and institutional investors. Today's call will be limited to 1 hour. And I will now turn the call over to Bryan.

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Thank you, Gar and welcome, everyone, to the third quarter 2022 Intellicheck earnings call. A couple of things to note for the numbers that we believe show that we are on the right track. First, we continue to grow with SaaS revenues up 22% over the same period a year ago. As you will hear, we continue to expand within our existing clients and we are growing customers across many very use cases. And note that our gross margins remained very healthy at greater than 90%. Second, I think a concern many had that we would need to raise money to fund operations. That is not the case. Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 was a positive $75,000 compared to a negative $272,000 for the same period last year and a negative $583,000 last quarter. There are 2 things I've said many times and I stand by what I told you before, that is we see no need to raise money for working capital and we do not need legions of people to run the company or handle explosive growth. The only primary areas where I see continued increases in spending are sales and marketing and those increases should create increased growth. We'll be watching those expenses closely and aligning hiring and spending with growth. Before I get into some of the wins of the quarter, I want to remind everyone of the magnitude of the problem we are solving. I think it gives insight as to why our customers continue to expand usage and why we are seeing new prospects coming to us with growing frequency. In 2021, traditional identity theft grew 79%, with losses almost doubling over 2020 to $24 billion. The mean fraud amount loss each time increased $200 to $1,551 and that's up $500 since I started in…

Jeffrey Ishmael

Analyst

Thank you, Bryan. Turning now to our third quarter results. Revenue for the third quarter of 2022 declined $819,000 or 17% to $4.12 million compared to $4.831 million in the same period of 2021. Last year's third quarter revenue included $1.5 million of nonrecurring hardware sales. Our SaaS revenue for the third quarter of 2022 grew $725,000 or 22% to $3.970 million from $3.245 million for the same period in 2021. Gross profit as a percentage of revenues was 91.1% for the third quarter of 2022 compared to 68.7% for the same period of 2021. The increase in gross profit percentage was primarily driven by significantly lower equipment sales for the third quarter this year versus last year. Operating expenses which consist of selling, general and administrative, marketing and research and development expenses increased $32,000 or 1% to $4.378 million the third quarter of 2022 compared to $4.346 million for the same period of 2021. This increase is primarily driven by higher recruiting and professional fees as well as higher marketing and advertising expenses. Included within operating expenses for the third quarter of 2022 and 2021 were $729,000 and $712,000, respectively, of noncash equity compensation expense. The company reported a net loss of $724,000 for the third quarter of 2022 compared to the net loss of $1.26 million for the same period of 2021. The net loss per diluted share for the third quarter of 2022 was $0.04 compared to the net loss per diluted share of $0.06 for the same period of 2021. The weighted average diluted common shares were 18.9 million for the third quarter of 2022 compared to 18.6 million for the same period of 2021. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2022 was a gain of $75,000 compared to a loss of $272,000 for the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Scott Buck with H.C. Wainwright.

Scott Buck

Analyst

First one, Bryan, I was hoping that you might be able to talk a little bit about the retail environment. A lot of talk about consumers pulling back in light of some heightened economic uncertainty. I'm wondering if you guys are seeing any of that as we move into the stronger fourth quarter.

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

So far, when I go back and compare numbers other than for some retailers that are having just certain overall issues, I'm not seeing a big pullback of any sort. And we generally can see that basically in real time as we did with COVID. Opening and closing, we get the numbers in real time. So we can see that. So not good so far, not yet.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Okay. And can you remind us how much of that legacy business makes up of total revenue?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

The -- you're saying...

Scott Buck

Analyst

Card applications and card-not-present transaction?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

That's the vast majority of the retail. I'd say that it used to be upper 90s. It's probably a little bit less now because so many more of the banks are using us in their -- at the teller workstation. So that's has been a big growth driver but it's the majority of the revenue still.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then my second question, positive adjusted EBITDA this quarter, how should we think about you managing the business on a go-forward basis? Are we managing to breakeven? Or how are you -- I guess how are you handling the push-pull between investing in additional growth versus maintaining that positive EBITDA?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Yes. The good thing about sort of investing in that additional growth, it's not a lot of money to invest. It's really advertising and people. So managing to breakeven, slightly positive as we flesh out the sales team that I think that we need to be able to make sure that we're hitting all the verticals that we should be in. I think one of the really good things that we've done is, our salespeople are now focused on a vertical which means they understand the business and speak the language. And there are different verticals like automotive. Again, I think we're doing so well there. If we had people focused purely on automotive, from that industry, we do better. So that's how we're looking at additional spend, smart verticals, right people to speak the language and the right advertising to go after it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Rudy Kessinger with D.A. Davidson.

Rudy Kessinger

Analyst

On the price increases, both with, I think, Fiserv number 3 and 1 of the Midwest banks. Do those come in, in line with the past price increases that you said were low double-digit? And then secondly, on Fiserv 3, I want to be clear, you said they're committing to a 20% increase in transactions in the first year that new contract. When did that contract renew? And so the 20% increase in transactions, I guess, as we think about the revenue increase, it would be the 20% increase in transactions plus the price increase. I want to make sure I'm understanding that right as well.

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Yes. So a couple of things on that. This is a contractual commitment to be doing a lot more. So we traded a little bit of increase for the contractual commitment because they are going to do it or cut us a check at the end of the year, if they miss what they have committed to doing. The -- and really the way to think about these price increases as we renew and renew and renew, we're bringing people up to what I would consider more market pricing, some of the deals that were struck or negotiated -- negotiations begun. Before I got here, we're at much lower rates. So they certainly had significant price increases. I think now what we can look at is more sort of adjustment EPI type adjustments for most of our clients going forward because we have pretty much everybody kind of at market pricing now.

Rudy Kessinger

Analyst

Got it. And then as we think about Q4, as you sit here kind of halfway through the quarter, is there any kind of bound you could point us to for Q4 as it relates to kind of a more typical seasonality in Q4 as you get back to a more normal in-person Black Friday relative to maybe the last year or 2 or pre-COVID, what kind of seasonality should we expect in Q4 versus Q3?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Yes. If we look at our main clients, they seem to be getting back to where they were pre-COVID. And typically, in a normal year across all of the retailers, we get about 43% of all transactions would come in Q4 and 23% in Q2 and Q3 and 21% in Q1. So it appears, it's feeling like the world has gotten kind of back to where it was. So that, I think, is about where we should be.

Rudy Kessinger

Analyst

Got it. And then just on the new sales reps. I know you had hired a handful that started just recently. Maybe it's a bit too early, maybe not. But just how are they ramping relative to expectations? And I guess, more importantly, how are they ramping relative to the past reps who you had hired over the last year or 2 and didn't work out?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

I think that they're ramping a lot faster. Chris actually had an off-site with his team and they did a lot of training. One of the things I think that we did differently was, how we went about hiring the people and making sure we've got people with industry knowledge which makes it so that, one, the ramp is a lot quicker. You're not explaining the industry to them. Two, they all came here knowing that they would make less money than they did last year because they all had pipelines and everything but the opportunities they saw made them want to come. So that's, I think, a very exciting thing. And between the training program that Chris has put together and is working with them on their industry knowledge, I'd say that they're ramping faster.

Rudy Kessinger

Analyst

Got it. And then just last for Jeff. How should we think about kind of the normalized OpEx run rate from here? You stepped down about $400,000 on GAAP from Q2 to Q3 on non-GAAP a bit more [indiscernible]. What's kind of the right OpEx run rate we should use for Q4 going forward?

Jeffrey Ishmael

Analyst

Yes. I think -- Bryan and I've been talking about the OpEx a lot. We've talked about being much more efficient in the deployment of that spend and I think we're going to keep a pretty high critical eye on that spend going forward. We anticipate that we're going to have additional spend as we ramp out the sales and marketing teams but again, we're going to look at percentage that are going to be in the same approximate range.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

This is Luke [ph] on for Mike. I just wanted to start with the new products and use cases and expanded digital applications which you guys had mentioned in the press release and touched on earlier with the business intelligence. But I was just wondering if you could expand a little more on this or give a little more color as to the types of products, use cases and how this is expanding digital applications. And just any color there would be helpful.

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Yes. Well, if you think about sort of the drivers, mobile apps now for age-restricted delivery which that's all using our APIs, SDKs, all of our banking clients are certainly -- we are in their normal apps now. Number 3, it certainly said that '23 is going to be a digital year for them. So everything from their retailers' websites or credit to their online banking tools, so those types of things. So again, what people realize we continue to grow in the digital world but we continue to grow faster in the on-premise world because that is growing faster than the digital for most things where people are applying for something like we have but the products work. We've got plenty of clients using them and the digital use continues to increase every quarter.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then I just want to touch on those 2 southern banks that I think you guys mentioned were supposed to be impacted in 3Q. I think last call, you mentioned one of them actually finished the pilot but was waiting for some software updates to the teller workstation and then the other was going through an InfoSec review. Any updates to call out there?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Yes. So both of them are now working through the contracts. One of them, I was just -- just a few hours ago talking to Chris about it. They want to be live in Q1 -- early Q1. So we're putting a big push on there. Both are going exceptionally well; both are very happy with everything that we looked at and tried and now it's just got in the eyes and crossing the Ts and everything that goes into a master securities agreement with the bank.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Daniel Hischman with Craig-Hallum Capital Group.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

This is Daniel [ph] on for Jeff. Just first off, just looking at the billings is kind of looking at how we calculate that. Looks like it's down year-over-year. I'm just wondering about your satisfaction with the bookings and whether or not that's meeting your expectations in terms of ramp and how the sales reps are doing.

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

Well, the SaaS revenue is up and I think that's one of the things that I think, I guess maybe screening tools and what people are looking at. We had 2 extraordinary large hardware purchases spread out across 2 quarters last year that we did as an accommodation for number 3 because they thought it would help them roll out to the teller workstations faster if they just bought it through us since they already had an MSA. They had to go negotiate it. We figured it would take them forever. And having negotiated with this bank, I know it takes a very, very long time. So I think that kind of skews the picture of that. Now -- and then we got to look at 2 things. There was the sale of people that we had who we no longer have because it just wasn't ramping fast enough. Thankfully, through some of the folks that were good, we had a pretty robust pipeline. And we also have clients who continue to find new use cases. We're doing that while the team -- the sales team ramps. And the good thing too is, it's not like we need the sales team, the new team to be experts on everything. They just need to be able to get meetings because then myself and Chris and anybody else in the company can get on the sales calls with them. So that's one of the reasons that we wanted to focus on people that had connections. We're selling into the space, because always wants a meeting. So and then they can learn by listening to us due to calls in the meeting.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And then you mentioned the pipeline. Just any color on the pipeline and how that's changed over the last 3 months?

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

I think the main way it's changed is different -- new and different verticals. And often, I think that's because of some of the existing folks that we brought in, who had sold sort of large deals from some of our competitors. They're here now calling up where they sold those deals and saying, I know you had issues, I'm here to the works a lot better. So that's bringing us into, I think, new markets. But our focus is still on stopping identity theft in financial services because that's an area of pain, right? We can immediately stop losses. So many other areas are, it's nice. The law still says for age-restricted products, all you have to do is look at a license. We don't have to try and validate it. So we try bank letting this company is like the delivery service we're working with, we want to make sure they're doing the right thing and going beyond that. But it's easier to sell and stop into pain and stop the pain and we've got the reference clients that every one of our competitors would want. So we've got a great advantage there and we'll continue to focus on that.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing comments.

Bryan Lewis

Analyst

So I'd just like to thank everybody for attending. As always, all of us here at Intellicheck are excited about what we're doing, what we're stopping. The crime we stopped, the pain we stopped the banks and the victims from going to and we continue to do it. We've got great team in place and I look forward to speaking to you all in the next call.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.