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IDACORP, Inc. (IDA)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 31, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to IDACORP's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded, and our broadcast is live. A replay will be available later today, and for the next 12 months on the IDACORP website. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Amy Shaw, Vice President of Finance, Compliance and Risk.

Amy Shaw

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining our call. This morning, we issued and posted to IDACORP's website our third quarter 2024 earnings release and the Form 10-Q. The slides we will reference during today's call are available on IDACORP's website. As noted on slide two, our discussion today includes forward-looking statements, including earnings guidance, spending forecast, regulatory plans and actions, financing plans, and estimates and assumptions that reflect our current views on what the future holds, all of which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from statements made today, and we caution against placing undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. Our cautionary note on forward-looking statements and various risk factors are included in more detail for your review in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. As shown on slide three, we have Lisa Grow, IDACORP's President and CEO; and Brian Buckham, IDACORP's Senior Vice President, CFO, and Treasurer, presenting today. We also have other members of our management team available for a Q&A session following our prepared remarks. Slide four shows a summary of our financial results. IDACORP's third quarter 2024 diluted earnings per share were $2.12 compared to $2.07 for last year's third quarter. In the third quarter of this year, we recorded $2.5 million of additional tax credit amortization under the Idaho regulatory stipulation, but recorded no additional ADITC amortization during the same period last year. Earnings per diluted share were $4.82 for the first nine months of this year, compared with $4.53 for the same period last year. Those results include additional tax credit amortization of $22.5 million through Q3 of 2024, compared to $7.5 million for the same period last year. Today, we updated certain key metrics and guidance for 2024. We increased the lower end of our previously-reported full-year 2024 earnings guidance to a range of $5.35 to $5.45 per diluted share. Our expectation of additional tax credit Idaho Power to use to support earnings also improved to a range of $25 million to $35 million. We're pleased to see our strong operating performance reduce our full-year estimate on tax credit usage again this quarter, preserving credits for the future. These estimates assume historically normal assume historically normal weather conditions and normal power supply expenses for the remainder of the year. Now I'll turn the call over to Lisa.

Lisa Grow

Analyst

Thanks, Amy, and thanks to everyone for joining us on Halloween. We have a treat for you today. I want to begin by acknowledging the incredible work our employees have done during a very hot and busy third quarter. According to the National Weather Service, 2024 was Boise's second-hottest summer on record. When coupled with the robust customer growth in our service areas, the demand for energy continues to grow. We set a new record system peak of 3,793 megawatts on July 22, and we also hit new record monthly peaks in August and September. Our ability to maintain reliable service for our customers during the hot summer months is a testament to our innovative, resilient, and hard-working employees. Despite its challenges, the hot weather led to strong energy sales, which Brian will provide more color on during his remarks. The hot-dry conditions led to an active wildfire season across the West, including in our service area. On the prevention side, as I mentioned during our last earnings call, we had our first public safety power shutoff event this summer, enacting the plans we've had in place for several years. A PSPS is one of our many wildfire mitigation efforts, and we continue to mature and implement our wildfire mitigation plan to help keep our communities and our systems safe. We're still experiencing strong customer growth and economic expansion across Idaho power service area, as you can see on slide five. Our customer base has grown 2.6% since last year's third quarter, including 2.9% for residential customers. We now serve more than 640,000 customers across Southern Idaho and Eastern Oregon. Many of our commercial and industrial customer segments increased their usage compared to 2023, including year-to-date growth of 15% for manufacturing, 12% for food processing, 8% for sugar production, and…

Brian Buckham

Analyst

Thanks, Lisa. I have a relatively lengthy update, so I apologize for those of you getting ready to trick or treat. But I'd say today isn't your average conference call. We want to give you a more comprehensive update. And then, we also look forward to following up with you in discussions during the upcoming EEI financial conference. So, I'm going to start on slide eight, our reconciliation of the third quarter's results. IDACORP's net income increased $8.3 million for the third quarter of this year versus last year. That was due to higher net income at Idaho Power from this year's increase in Idaho base rates, and from customer growth of 2.6% over the past 12 months. Higher usage per retail customer, particularly from residential and irrigation customers also benefited the quarter. Total other O&M expenses increased $20.3 million in the third quarter, as in part from $4 million of increased pension-related expenses and $6 million of increased wildfire mitigation and related insurance expenses during the quarter. Those costs were partially offset by increases in retail revenues because they were included in the last Idaho rate case for recovery through base rates. Inflationary pressures on labor-related costs also contributed to the increase in other O&M expenses. Depreciation expense increased $5.6 million for the quarter. We expected that increase from the system investments we've made to meet growing customer needs and to maintain system reliability. Other net changes in operating revenues and expenses increased operating income by $3.3 million. That was mostly due to a decrease in net power supply expenses that weren't deferred for future recovery in rates due to power cost adjustment mechanisms. And on a net basis, non-operating expenses decreased $2.4 million in the third quarter from a combination of increased AFUDC from the higher construction work…

Operator

Operator

We are now ready to begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Alex Mortimer with Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Lisa Grow

Analyst

Hi, Alex.

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon, team.

Brian Buckham

Analyst

Good afternoon.

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

So, just given the updated and I understand there are some puts and takes given pending regulatory outcomes. But generally, do you expect to be earning maybe around your support level in the coming years? And then maybe tied into that, any thoughts on how we should view the trajectory of tax credit usage?

Brian Buckham

Analyst

Yes, Alex, this is Brian. So, if you mean the base level, do you mean by the base level the ADITC earnings level?

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

Yes, correct.

Brian Buckham

Analyst

Yes, to there, we do expect there to be an element of regulatory lag going forward. But again, that regulatory lag should be relatively consistent year-by-year. So, the amount of depreciation and interest expense that we would incur even if we had a period-end rate base will cause some lag mostly likely in our earnings, that customer growth alone may not be adequate to cover. So, from that basis, yes, it is possible that in the coming years we could be earning at that base level that was set for the ADITC mechanism. Over time though, we would expect the inclusion of rate base in rates to eliminate the need to rely on the mechanism over time. And that's' where the incremental significant earnings horsepower comes from.

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

Understood.

Brian Buckham

Analyst

What was the second aspect of your question, Alex?

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

And then just the trajectory of tax credit usage, but it sounds like that's also been answered, I guess, just turning --

Brian Buckham

Analyst

So, we do have a tax credit appetite, Alex. And so, we will be using some of those credits for purposes of our returns, but we would expect there to be carry-over balances. The amount in the mechanism right now is about $105 million, plus or minus, and we have an expectation, as you saw in our guidance, to use $25 million to $35 million of that this year.

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

Understood. And then, I guess you're continuing to add generation, but also continuing to raise your low-growth expectations. So, how do you think about the scale maybe of your future generation needs above and beyond the current plan? And then maybe also how to view the split between dispatchable and intermittent resources, going forward, just given the load profile of some of your customers, particularly the larger ones coming on to the system?

Lisa Grow

Analyst

Hi, Alex, this is Lisa. So, I think it's important to add into the substantial amount of transmission that we're adding to system as well, so it's not only generation assets that will help us meet the demand. But having said that, Adam, what would you add on there?

Adam Richins

Analyst

Yes, the transmission -- Alex, this is Adam. Of course, we're going to add a fair amount of wind, solar, and batteries. We're also converting our current coal fleet to gas, both at Valmy, and at Bridger. In addition to that, Lisa mentioned that the SWIP project is a project we're looking at. Gateway West is a project on the transmission side that we'd need to move forward to culminate some of this growth, and then, of course, B2H in 2027. In terms of dispatchable resources, as we go out for these RFPs, they're all resource RFPs, but our models are starting to show more and more the need for dispatchable resources, particularly in the winter time. And so, you will see us in this IRP really start to focus in on that, and see if that's needed for the timeframe of '29 through '31.

Alex Mortimer

Analyst

Great, thank you so much. I'll leave it there and congrats on a great quarter.

Adam Richins

Analyst

Thanks, Alex.

Lisa Grow

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ross Fowler with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Ross Fowler

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Afternoon, guys. Happy Halloween. So, maybe just let me pull on a couple threads here that you talked about on the earnings call. So, the affordability one, right, let's talk through that a little bit, right, your rate base growth CAGR grew 17%, you're sort of doubling your rate base from where you were before. And you talked, Brian, about how you shouldn't think about a doubling of bills or rates because there's a lot of things that mitigate that back against that, right, so you have the depreciation that brings that in over time. Of course, you have all the industrials paying for what they're using on the grid. And that's really maybe the piece I want to explore, because that volume growth of that industrial load seems very high, right, for your service territory. So, what does that actually walk the residential billing increase back to in sort of a broad scope, is that within the scope of inflation, is it mid-single digits, is it higher than that, like, what are you guys seeing as you put this plan through the regulatory process around those bill increases and that rate pressure for customers?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Yes, Ross, great question. There's a lot that goes into that. And, at the end of the day, what we're required to show and from the commission as we get approval of special contracts for these large industrial customers is the so-called no-harm analysis. And in doing that, that's making sure that the infrastructure serving these new large industrial customers is being charged to those customers either in advance or over time in their rates, and so, by doing that no-harm analysis, you do end up with a lot of the incremental cost of resources being allocated towards those large industrial customers, and covered by their revenue requirement. And so, I don't have exact numbers for you, but residential rates that track more along the rate of inflation, and the industrial rates coming up for those special contract customers on a cost-conserved basis would generally be considerably higher than what you would see for a residential customer, certainly not -- [multiple speakers] residential and industrial.

Ross Fowler

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Yes, I got you, Brian. So, if I thought about that in maybe another way, if I thought about the large CapEx program here, and I sort of try to figure out what was serving those industrial customers, I could take that aside and say, "Okay, I know where that is going from a rate perspective," and then the rest is sort of just residential and commercial, and I could think about that as the actual kind of rate pressure -- rate-based math I would think of, absent volume growth in that dynamic, if that makes sense?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

That's a fair way to do that, Ross. I will say that as you look across what the CapEx increases were, a lot of the CapEx is to serve existing customers as well on a reliable basis. It will be spread over a larger denominator. But we're making upgrades in other system resources, like the distribution system, for example, hardening up the system that benefit all customers. And some of our transmission investment, for example, benefits all customers, and so that that element of it as well will be allocated across the full customer base. But a very significant portion will be allocated to the customers that are causing the increase. One other thing I would mention is that, for some of these customers, we have to build out, say, a substation specific to them or transmission inter-tied specific to them. Those costs don't get allocated across the system to any other customers, those dedicated specifically and paid upfront by the large industrial customer.

Ross Fowler

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Yes, that makes complete sense. And then, as I think about -- you said you'd have to sort of -- I guess given the scale of the CapEx program, what do you -- you mentioned this a little bit in the call, but what is the tenure of rate cases from here, should I think about being in front of the regulator every year as you -- a pretty significant capital program goes through or how are we thinking about that in terms of future rate case filing?

Lisa Grow

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Yes, I think that's a reasonable assumption just given we're trying to reduce the regulatory lag as we go through just record amounts of capital expenditures. So, yes, I think that would be a reasonable assumption.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

One thing I would add, Ross, is we could do different arrangements. We could do, for example, a multiyear arrangement with the commission, that's not what's sitting in front of them right now. But because of the frequent need to be front of the regulator and get rate changes to incorporate all of this CapEx converted to rate base, I mean it will serving these customers. So, we do have to have a relatively frequent cadence. So, we could be there on an annual basis or a mechanism that perhaps requires us to not be in every single year.

Ross Fowler

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

No, that makes sense, Brian. And then, I can't wait to get away to go trick or treating without the earnings growth guidance question. I mean you kind of triangulated a little bit for us on the call, but is there any thought process as to where you might win or you might get more specific on that?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

No, not at this point, Ross, we're just looking to execute well on our various projects. We have a lot going on and it's incumbent on management to get in and make sure we're converting that into rate-based while it serves our customers. And that methodology that I talked about, starting with rate-based growth and using equity dilution to help come up with a rough estimate is our best approach at this point.

Ross Fowler

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Okay, perfect. Thank you.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Lisa Grow

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bill Appicelli with UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Lisa Grow

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Hi, Bill.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Hi Bill.

Bill Appicelli

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Hi, good afternoon. Just a couple questions, maybe building on one of Ross's last questions there on the earnings growth. So, I mean right you're talking 17, nearly 17% rate-based growth and I guess, is this potentially moving higher when you include 29? I mean or is that do you think we sort of peaked out here at this level? I guess that's one question. And then, I mean, yes, I mean, 1.3 billion, even if it's not going to be ratable even sort of simplistically, that's 5% or 6% of the market cap, right? So, I mean, you can sort of, to your point there, we're back into a potential for double-digit earnings growth over time. But I mean, the second part of my question after the rate based part of it is how lumpy should we expect it to be? Is there going to be periods where the lag is worse than others and we'll be catching up, so it's not a linear growth, but it's going to be more sawtooth, depending on the rate case outcomes and the cadence of cases?

Lisa Grow

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Yes. Starting with your last question, I would say that that's certainly a possibility. We really are thoughtful about what we ask for in each rate case. And we work through each one and that sort of indicates what we need to think about in the next case. And then, as far as the first part of your question, as we go beyond this forecast period, as we mentioned, there are additional loads and additional resources that are out there as potential. We'll keep updating that forecast as we go through time and have more certainty on those.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Yes, and Bill, what I would add to that is on that rate-based growth percentage, so we would start with a higher base year on that, and that'll certainly impact the percentage growth, but the number would still be, as we expect with 29 added still robust. And as Lisa mentioned, we're not done. There may be more additions there that we're not aware of as of yet and are waiting on the results of customers who have construction and generation studies that are in hand. What I would say on the lumpiness is if you look at the rate-based slide that we put out there, you can see that there's a pretty significant amount of rate of CapEx that converts to rate base at least based on our current estimates in 2027. So just even looking at the rate-based forecast you'd expect there to be some lumpiness in our earnings. And the regulatory lag part is difficult to estimate. You know, with projects that move around in terms of timing, that can create lumpiness in our results. But again, this is CapEx that's being used to serve customers from a reliability perspective, not really optional. So, as we're going into the regulatory arena, we have a lot of confidence in the capital we're converting into rate base. But yes, certainly not linear. And you can see the quip -- we put the quip conversion on that rate base growth forecast slide, so you could see what we're -- what we would expect to move in and out of rates based on project timing.

Bill Appicelli

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Right, okay. And then, just to clarify on the RFP wins, the batteries and the wind, you'll be constructing that yourself, so you will get the quip. It's not a build-on-transfer kind of one-shot deal.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

That's correct. So, we'll be making payments on those, and because we'll be making payments, we'll be earning AFUDC on those assets. There are circumstances where paying at the end of a project is our preference, but these will be projects that have milestone payments.

Bill Appicelli

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then, just lastly, on the credit metrics, can you just speak to the updated outlook there? I know you've been sort of tracking below the ultimate target, but given the pace of growth, I mean, do you feel like you're still trending upwards on the FFO targets, or is this going to take you longer to get there now with this just another leg up of growth?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Well, a lot of that's going to depend on the outcome of rate cases and whether or not we're successful in removing some of the regulatory lag. A regulator that understands the importance of the financial health of the utility is important in that regard to make sure that our cash flow metrics stay in a good spot and our credit metrics are good. You look at our plan, we plan to issue equity, we do plan to file frequent rate cases for cash collection. So, getting cash sooner will help. We've certainly seen that this year with a dramatic improvement in cash flow. As we look ahead on Moody's and S&P, there are circumstances where we sort of stay near our downgrade threshold where we are now. And it is possible it takes longer to get out. And that's part of why we filed our case in the Idaho Commission to reduce some of that regulatory lag that puts pressure on those credit metrics.

Bill Appicelli

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Okay. All right, great. Thank you so much.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · UBS Securities. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Ellinghaus with SWS. Please go ahead.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Hey, everybody. How are you?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Hey, Chris.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Congrats on the update. It's pretty exciting. Brian, you gave us a number in your financing slide for dividends. It sort of suggests that you're going to lag dividend growth based on sort of what I'm inferring on the earnings growth side. So, can you give us a little thought on what you're thinking about dividend growth going forward.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Yes, Chris. So, what we did there is we looked at the dividend that we decided to pay in September and rolled that forward. So, I wouldn't necessarily use that as a proxy of what we're going to do for the next four years because that can change based on our cash flow at any given time. So, we made a decision with our Board in September to slow the rate of growth of the dividend down to reinvest that money in our business and when that starts to pay more in cash flow then we'll have the flexibility to increase our dividend payout and over time over the long term get back towards that 60% to 70% payout ratio but again we've got in front of us what we think is a compelling growth story and we want to be able to capitalize on the dollars that we're getting to reinvest in the business.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

So are you thinking dividend growth will sort of be lockstep sort of lumpiness with earnings?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Not necessarily. If you look at what we've done on our dividend growth since 2012, it has been relatively steady. We decided for now to slow the growth rate down. Once we've gone through the regulatory process and we have some of these projects in service and we're receiving revenues from our customers for some of the investment, we can accelerate the growth in the dividend. I wouldn't expect the dividend to track earnings necessarily every year. I would expect a more steady cadence in the increase in the dividend growth rate for the next few years.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. That's helpful. Something that seemed a little odd to me, the ADITC recognition for the quarter versus your guidance for the year, maybe I don't understand your process, but it would seem that as you move through the year, it's sort of natural for your ADITC recognition to sort of decline as you have a better view of the full-year. So, in the third quarter you get a really good picture of the year at that point, but your guidance sort of implies a bigger recognition in the fourth quarter, and I don't quite understand why that would be? Can you give us a little thought there?

Brian Buckham

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

So, right now, we have $22.5 million of ADITCs recorded. So, if we end up at the end of the year with, say, $25 million or $30 million of ADITCs used, we'd record another quarter of $2.5 to $5 million ADITCs. So, last year, if you'll recall, we actually reversed them because our estimate for the year-end changed. This year we slowed the rate down because we will amortize off whatever we need in any given quarter to hit what we believe our year-end target will be. So, that's why we recorded larger amounts in the first-half of the year compared to what we recorded in the third quarter. So, we would expect on that cadence to record a small amount in the fourth quarter if everything continued as we planned. With that strong operating performance during the year, the first quarter was not as strong for us. Second and third quarter were stronger, which a lot of that operating performance allowed us to reduce that credit need going into the end of the year.

Lisa Grow

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

I think it's also worth noting that in our 2023 rate case that we didn't put the battery in the revenue requirement and instead are recognizing those ADITCs to sort of make up the difference as we go through these as a rate case going forward. So, it's a way to help keep rates low for the customers. So, that's a little bit different than previous years.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Right, thanks Lisa. Another thing that seems a little odd to me in the quarter, looks like irrigation sales were only up 3.4%. Given the weather conditions that you had, which seemed pretty extreme at least for agriculture purposes. Can you give us a little color there? It seems like a pretty small increase year-over-year.

Lisa Grow

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Yes, so Chris, you have to think about what crops are in. They kind of had a late start given the cold spring, so we kind of saw disappointing results in that first part of the season. And then, once they start cutting hay and those crops that come off a little bit earlier, it naturally drops in Q3 anyway. So, overall it's been a decent year for irrigation. It's just sort of the cadence of when they use and how much they use.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Okay. One last thing, these additional large load potential customers, do you have any sense of when you may know about them?

Lisa Grow

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

It's really up to them. Adam, what would you say?

Adam Richins

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Yes, hey, Chris. We deliver them their studies in October. The way these studies work, they generally provide kind of cost and timing information. We're waiting for a response. I'd hate to predict exactly when, but probably hope in the next couple months to get a good feel for where they are headed.

Chris Ellinghaus

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. Thanks for the details. We'll see you soon.

Lisa Grow

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

All right. We'll see you soon.

Brian Buckham

Analyst · SWS. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] That concludes the question-and-answer session for today. Ms. Grow, I will turn the conference back to you.

Lisa Grow

Analyst

Thank you, and thanks again to everybody for joining us today especially given that it's Halloween. I hope you have a great evening and go out with your trick-or-treaters. I hope there's lots of chocolate in their little baskets that you'll pretend you're not taking away from them when they are sleeping. So, we look forward to seeing many of you at EEI. And again, thank you for your continued interest in IDACORP. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect.