John Wasson
Analyst · Sidoti & Company.
Right. So I think as we said in our remarks and our release, I think it's early termination or discontinuing use of 16 offices, office-to-office leases. Generally, the offices that we took the step on had remaining leases of 2 to 3 years remaining. And they were also often areas where we had more than 1 lease in the city. I think with the pandemic, we certainly learned some lessons around how folks will work remotely. And I think given that, I think we - while, certainly, we expect people to return to the office, and that will be an important part of the future of the business in terms of ensuring collaboration and brainstorming and those types of things, I think given what we've learned in the pandemic, we felt we could shut these offices down, manage the use of the space. And in doing so, we've - I think we save about $2.5 million a year going forward. And I think our intent with that is to largely reinvest that in business development, given all the opportunities in front of us in terms of growth to take full advantage of them. But I would expect, as future leases expire, that we're going to take a hard look at our footprint. And I would expect that over time, the footprint is certainly going to come down, given I think we'll end up in some kind of hybrid, people who work from the office and also - but also continue to work remotely at some level, so you won't need it. You'll need collaborative space where people can sign up for an office for a day or work in a collaborative environment. But we'll be able to use the space much more efficiently. So I think we're - so I would hope we could - 20%, 25% savings on our facilities footprint going forward. I mean, it's not a bad goal. I think Bettina mentioned that, as we look at travel and entertainment going forward that I think we'll need to return to that and we'll begin to at some point this year. But, again, I would hope we could save 20%, 25% on that. And again, I think we'll look to either reinvest that or have it help drive our profitability. I think those are the - but certainly, we're taking a hard look at the facilities as we go forward. And that will be an ongoing thing. I mean as the leases come up for renewal, certainly take a hard look.