Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Interactive Brokers Group Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nancy Stuebe, Director of Investor Relations. Please begin.

Thank you, operator and welcome everyone to our third quarter earnings call. Our earnings were released today after the market closed and are also available on our website. Our speakers today are Thomas Peterffy, our Chairman and CEO and Paul Brody, our Group CFO. They will start the call with some prepared remarks about the quarter and then we will take your questions. As a reminder, today’s call may include forward-looking statements which represent the company’s beliefs regarding future events which, by their nature, are not certain and are outside of the company’s control. Our actual results and financial condition may differ, possibly materially, from what is indicated in these forward-looking statements. We ask that you refer to the disclaimers in our press release. You should also review a description of risk factors contained in our financial reports filed with the SEC. I would now like to turn the call over to Thomas Peterffy.

Hello, everybody. Our pre-tax profits for the quarter were $183 million. This is composed of $162 million from brokerage, which in turn includes $3 million bad debt write-down and $3 million reserves for U.S. and foreign regulatory fines. The $183 million also includes $7 million for market making and $14 million from corporate, mostly favorable currency impact. This summer, specifically July and August, were dismally slow months. Intraday volatility was practically zero. We saw the market open and find its level for the day within the first few minutes of trading and then it would just sit there until the close. Looking at my screen, I use Interactive Brokers Mosaic, I often felt that I must have lost connection. But no, the market had just stopped moving. Given that, I was pleasantly surprised to see that we were still able to generate an average daily commission income above $2 million in those two extremely slow months. A year or two ago, this number would have been much smaller than account growth over the past few years would have indicated. In other words, what we find is that our newer customers, while they trade less often than our traditional customers, their business is more steady and not dependent so much on market activity. They appear to follow our plan instead of reacting to price moves, which is what our more traditional trading-oriented customer base does. This, of course, has nothing to do with market making. The market making business had a very hard time covering expenses for the quarter. As I indicated in our last earnings call, we are examining in what form to continue this business or possibly to sell it. We have begun some conversations with potential partners or acquirers. That is all I have to say about this…

Thank you, Thomas. Welcome everyone to the call. As usual, I will review the summary results and then give segment highlights before we open it up for questions. Overall operating metrics reflected the drop in market volatility and industry volumes. In particular, the August doldrums led to a slide in DARTs to the lowest level since November 2014, but volume rebounded substantially back to more recent levels in September. Average overall daily trade volume for the quarter was 1.26 million trades per day, down 10% from the third quarter of 2015 and down 5% sequentially, as the average VIX level declined 31% and 15%, respectively, over the same time period. On the positive side, the story of the quarter was strong gains in asset gathering and brokerage, as I will describe more in my comments on that segment’s performance. Electronic brokerage metrics showed solid increases in the number of customer accounts and in customer equity, up 15% and 33% respectively. Total and cleared customer DARTs declined 11% and 9%, respectively, from the year ago quarter in the face of low volatility. Note that last year’s comparative quarter reflected an extreme run-up in volume from low priced Hong Kong shares and a spike in volume during the August 2015 market turbulence. Orders from cleared customers who clear and carry their positions and cash with us and contribute more revenue grew slightly this quarter to 93% of total DARTs. Market Making contract and share volumes were similarly down across product types. Third quarter net revenues declined 4% versus last year, while pre-tax income was down at 9% for a pre-tax margin of 53%. Our brokerage results were boosted somewhat by strong gains in customer accounts and equity, while low volatility and a decline in options volumes continued to impact market making. Other…

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And the first question is from Rich Repetto of Sandler O’Neill. Your line is open.

Good evening Thomas. Good evening Paul. The brokerage segment showed some, what I would think, is dramatically improved metrics in this quarter. You really got to go back to last year to see when you are growing this fast. And thank you, Thomas for breaking out the different brokerage segments. But I am just trying to understand, it did come quick, which segments are driving this growth, because I thought you said proprietary trading, but anyway I guess the question is as you are seeing margin loans grow 21% quarter-over-quarter, all this account growth and so forth, can you just repeat – yes, where it’s coming from?

Yes. So the margin growth, you have to take with a little bit of salt, because as you know, there were two substantial corporate actions this quarter where people levered up to take advantage of the difference between the market price and the takeover price. As far as the client equity growth, most of it came – I mean they were all very high from – relative to – as I have said, it’s 48% annualized for the quarter. And in all segments, it was the lowest in financial advisors relative to a year ago quarter, it was 22% over the year ago. And for introducing broker, it was 62%. And the individuals and the prop trading firms and the hedge funds were in between.

Okay.

I think commission income basically was flat with the year ago, due to a year ago we had an extremely active August. If you remember, the market fell out of bed, and then we had these Chinese problems. And this year, we had a dismally slow August. So this year, we have the same commission income in August as we had last year I mean sorry, the year-to-date commission income is flat from what it was a year ago.

Got it, okay. I guess then – that’s helpful. The next question Thomas, you mentioned that in Scottrade, 2,000 accounts that they will likely move away if there is a transaction with Scottrade, but you also mentioned a midsized bank, could you tell us whether you anticipate that would go – the size – would it fill the 2,000 account hole?

It will more than make up for the 2,000 accounts for sure. I am not free to tell you who it is, because they would like to have the opportunity to inform their customers themselves, right. And so this will take place, I expect, within the next 30 days.

Got it, okay. And the last question is on the market making, we know it wasn’t way profitable, but then if you look at the metrics, this was like – could have been viewed as the most difficult quarter because of the low intraday volatility, so I guess the question is, how did you – did you view the results as, at least in this condition, reasonable? And then you said that when you are exploring sales, maybe last quarter, we thought it was partnerships or sales, it sounded more like an outright sale when you spoke in the prepared remarks and could you clarify that, I guess whether I am reading it right?

I mean we are open to both alternatives. We would slightly prefer sales because we are being – folks believe – some people believe that our proprietary trading interferes with the pristine nature of our brokerage business. And so we think that if we had nothing to do with prop trading, we will get more brokerage clients. And given the extremely poor performance of market making, it really doesn’t – it doesn’t look like it’s going to improve. So we have certain disadvantages that other folks have been successful in overcoming in market making. And so I think that coming together with one of these firms where – who have succeeded in overcoming the disadvantage we have but do not have all the advantages that we have, maybe putting two things together would be a good idea.

Got it. And just one last quick thing, would – it’s still the same position, that capital would be transitioned to the broker rather than have any return to the shareholders?

That is correct. We still – we do not only want to be the best and least expensive broker, we also want to be the safest.

Understood. Thank you very much, Thomas.

Thank you.

Thank you. The next question is from Conor Fitzgerald of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Good afternoon. Thomas, I just want to circle back to some of the comments you made on consolidation and how that could create a market share opportunity for you. I guess the question is would you consider kind of getting maybe more aggressive on the client acquisition side either through advertising or maybe some other upfront investments to try and seize that opportunity if there was consolidation amongst some of your competitors?

I don’t know how to answer that. We would consider anything, but advertising is a – it’s always – the return on the advertising dollar is very difficult to measure. And we would love to be more aggressive if we knew how.

Got it. And then I just want to circle back on the comment you made, Paul, around expenses kind of continuing to grow with some of the regulatory burden. Can you kind of help us understand maybe the pace and magnitude of that?

Well, it’s – to the extent that there are expenses associated with it – retaining outside legal counsel and representation with regulators and all of that, that’s a difficult one, because it’s really more up to the regulators than us as to the burden that they are going to impose on all of us. We have, at a measured pace, been increasing legal and compliance staff over the years. So, that’s – in the context of our overall staff, it’s – from quarter-to-quarter, it’s not meaningful number, but it has definitely expanded quite a bit in the last 5 years. So, it’s – that’s hard to pin a number down on it.

Got it. That’s helpful. And then one last just one on the expense if I could. I just want to make sure the regulatory fine, did that run through general and administrative and is that why that line item was elevated? And then on the execution and clearing that was just a little higher than I kind of would have thought given the activity level, is there anything to kind of call out there as driving the increase?

Right. Yes, the regulatory go through general and administrative. And the execution and clearing line didn’t change much, but it’s as much a reflection of the mix of the products going up and down a little bit. Obviously, certain products have a higher expense ratio, if you will. Commodities cost us more and we mark them up less and so forth. So, what you see is the mix, it didn’t – the overall didn’t really change all that much.

That’s helpful. Thank you very much.

Thank you. The next question is from Chris Harris of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Thanks. A few more questions on the expenses. What kind of expense is going to be involved with the new Greenwich Advisers Compliance that you guys just rolled out, maybe it’s not material or maybe you can talk about that a little bit? And then just to verify, the legal and compliance cost you mentioned, are you anticipating those to continue to grow from here? I just want to make sure I heard that correctly.

So, the Greenwich Compliance group, we are starting with three full timers and two part-timers in the sense that the two part-timers do not only do that type of work, but they also do other work and we hope to expand it from there. So accordingly, the cost could be, I guess maybe $1.5 million. Then the other question was what, again, sorry?

Yes, I probably shouldn’t have said so many questions in one. Just the legal and compliance costs you guys had addressed. I just wondered – I thought I heard you guys had mentioned that they might be growing from here. I just want to make sure that that was accurate?

Yes. I expect that it will grow, because regulators are becoming more active, not only in the U.S., but also in other jurisdictions around the world and we have subsidiaries in many countries that are now getting regular – more regularly examined by the local regulators and we have to build our systems to – and try to interpret what they really mean when they give us the rules.

Understood. Thank you.

Thank you. The next question is from Mac Sykes of Gabelli. Your line is open.

Good evening, everyone. I think we have talked about this in the past, but market making, I believe provides some synergies to brokerage. So, I was wondering if you could just shed some light on, if you did sell that asset, what would that do in terms of impacts to the brokerage fixed cost variable?

Well, it would exceed – I mean increase the cost that is – that will be borne by the brokerage entity, but hard to say by how much. We have done some studies. And would you recall the numbers, Paul?

Not with enough specificity to give them on this call. I think we have talked about this briefly in the last call and said that these are numbers that can easily be absorbed by brokerage. It’s – the analysis is somewhat complex in terms of piecing apart certain technological setups, but we have done a certain amount of work there and I can’t tell you exactly how much extra burden that would be to brokerage alone.

And just the on-boarding for this new client, is that going to be over a couple of months or do we – should we look for the metrics to change kind of in a lump fashion?

That’s probably over a couple of months.

And then my last question is we have obviously seen some evidence of your interest in the elections in November, Thomas. Should the White House remain in Democratic hands, could you go over some of the puts and takes for your business just maybe around regulation, market reforms, corporate taxes, international operations, capital, just like to hear your thoughts on the outlook?

Look, I would like to make 100% sure that everybody understands that my political activities have absolutely nothing to do with the company. And as to how the impact of the elections, what they would be on the company and on the industry, I don’t know any more about it than you do. We all expect that under a Democratic President, regulations will be – regulators will be more active than on the Republican one. That’s all I can say about it.

Okay, thank you for taking my questions.

Thank you. The next question is from Rob Koehn of Ivy Lane Capital. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks for taking my call. So, first a couple of mathematical cleanup items. Paul, just to make sure I have the numbers right, you said the $15 million mark-to-market loss on the Treasury portfolio that’s held on maturity. You would add that back to both the net revenue and the pre-tax income lines of the electronic brokerage segment, correct?

That’s right.

So, the $288 million of net revenue and the $162 million of pre-tax becomes $303 million and $177 million.

That’s right, yes.

Okay. And so that’s how the margin goes from 56% to 58% on an apples-to-apples basis?

That’s exactly right, yes.

Okay. And then you also said – and I couldn’t understand at the beginning of the call, but there was – you said there was like a $3 million – was it a client loss or something and a $3 million of regulatory fine?

Yes, I said that.

Okay. And so would either of those or both of those be reallocated to the brokerage segment if I was just looking at the segment portfolio?

Yes, they were both allocated to the brokerage segment.

Both to brokerage okay. And so those would both be in – well, I guess, the loss would be – would hit net revenues?

Yes.

And the fine would be in non-interest expense, it would be non-interest expenses?

Right.

Okay. So if I were to...?

I am not 100% sure of the loss. Paul, do you know, the loss comes out of revenues?

The customer bad debt loss comes on the expense side.

Okay. So they both would come on the expense side.

Yes. We list customer bad debt as an expense line item.

Got it, okay. So the $6 million – so that would be $6 million in total there. So excluding those two items, I guess on a pro forma basis, it would be like $183 million would be sort of an adjusted pretax?

You mean after – with the mark to market also backed out on the Treasuries?

Yes. Just taking the one-time or...?

Like take everything out, yes.

Yes. Just to get a sense, okay.

Your method is correct.

Okay, great. Now – and just to clarify, it was breaking up on my end a little bit, but the 25 basis points, if Fed funds rises 25 bps, that’s an extra how much of net interest income?

Our estimate is $52 million annualized. It’s annualized.

$52 million, okay. Annualized, okay. And then I guess a couple of questions Thomas, for you, why not – with the market maker, I guess it’s just a question of price on a sale, but in the past over the years, you have talked about how maybe there is some optionality there and certainly, you have got some things going on with the exchanges and perhaps, Citadel and some of these other guys, why not consider spinning that off or is it just too small to think about spinning off to shareholders?

Why would it be easier to run it? It wouldn’t be any easier, it would be more difficult.

Right. But it would just be – that way the option value of it, theoretically can stay with the existing shareholders, right, I mean if it were to come back to life?

I don’t think – I think there are major changes that have taken place in the market in the last several years. And basically, we have – we were left behind with our pricing, our pricing of stocks. Our pricing is terrific on the options, but we are not as good at pricing stocks as other folks are. And so if we could bring somebody else who is good at stock pricing, somebody else whose stock prices together with our option prices that would be a big winner. But our stock pricing is no good anymore.

Okay. Well, fair enough. Okay. And then on the – well, a quick question. So what percentage of cash would you say your brokerage customers hold, I mean I can look at client customer credits and I know some of that are credits resulting from short balances or margin balances?

Our customers hold $40 billion – $42 billion of cash.

Okay. So getting to the customer equity per account metric, so I guess looking at – in Q3, your average customer equity per account was up 8%, 8.1% on my math, which was double the S&P 500, while holding whatever, more than half of their balances in cash, so I mean is that – I know you have talked about it a little bit, but to what extent are these...?

You can’t look at it so simply. That’s – the amount of cash they hold, but there are other accounts who are borrowing a lot of money, as you know...

That was my question, so there is – that’s why I was asking on...?

And there are also folks who are short stocks and get cash in their accounts. So it’s a composite, not – you can’t look at it so inside...

That was the first part of my question. So I guess what I was trying to get to is, are there some really larger accounts that are coming in, so like maybe you can talk – or hedge funds, they dual prime or prime with three or four different prime brokers bringing new – some relatively big accounts that might skew these numbers higher?

Well, we have lost count – we have about 34 accounts with over $100 million.

Okay. And that 34, total accounts or 34 hedge fund accounts?

34 total accounts.

Okay. And how many of those would be hedge funds you would say?

I wouldn’t know.

Okay. And so is that a trend that is playing – I mean I have heard anecdotally that there are some funds out there that might be $1 billion fund, but might prime to three different places, but because of your lower costs might move some chunk of those assets to you that are more active funds, is that...?

Yes. Several hedge fund clients that – who have large amounts of money under management and we are their third or fourth prime broker, they keep a relatively little money with us and keep huge amounts elsewhere because they think that they are too big to fail.

Right.

Yes. Too big to be fail.

It seems like that’s dipping our toe in the water, it might be a good opportunity, okay. And I guess last on my list here, you mentioned Scottrade is only 2,000 accounts and I guess a minimal amount of revenue, but those accounts are custodied with you, correct, and these underlying clients are using the IB platform right now, right?

Sorry, let’s – give me the beginning number...

So I said these accounts are custodied in Interactive Brokers, right and they are using Mosaic or...?

Right. Yes, of course.

So it’s not like a buyer can just snap its fingers and say you guys are all moving over to us, I mean the underlying customer still would have to make a decision to ACAT their assets elsewhere?

Sure. But I mean they have the contract and we are not going to do anything about that to – we are not going to do anything to hold them, because we think that they are fairly Scottrade’s customer, fair and square. If they want to stay with us for some reason, they are welcome to. But we are not going to make any effort to do that because we want future customers to understand that when they bring their accounts onto our platform, we are not going to take that away from them.

Right. And I think that’s – I think being a good – I think that’s very smart. But I just want to understand you clarified it, they would actually have to fill out a form to ACAT their assets to whoever this other broker might be?

Yes.

Okay. And how many of these clients do you think realize that IB’s pricing is – that they are paying a higher price than they would be as a direct customer?

I would have no way of knowing it. And as a matter of fact, no I have nothing to assume that they are paying the higher price. You see, what is happening with these introducing brokers, it is really hard for me to make people understand this, so when you are an Interactive Brokers client, depending upon the amount of volume you do, your commission rates ratchet down, right. So if you do – I don’t know, maybe a very large number of shares, you only – on the last shares, you only take – pay $0.10 per 100 shares, so it’s practically nothing. But we are charging the client, in this case, in Scottrade’s case, the same amount as Scottrade would charge them. And then we rebate to Scottrade the difference of the discounted price that we would charge this account if all the Scottrade accounts were one account, right? So in other words, introducing brokers can go out and market their services and charge the same amount that we would charge those customers, individual customers, and retain the difference between the discounted price that we would charge if all the customers belong to one account, versus what our list price is for small accounts. So, it really makes a lot of economic sense to hang out the shingle as an introducing broker that uses our platform. Anybody else?

And we have another question from Sean Brown of Teton Capital. Sean, your line is open.

Yes, hi, guys. Just first, real quick housekeeping question on these gain and losses, mark-to-market gain and losses, on the Treasury securities that keep happening and kind of polluting, so to speak, to income statement every quarter. If I look at like E*TRADE, in their 10-K, it says they are treated as available-for-sale securities and all of the gains and losses are unrealized and reflected within OCI. Why would we not be treating it the same as E*TRADE, I guess?

So from what we understand, many of the other brokers that are aligned with affiliate banks are reporting as banks under bank GAAP, which does not require them to mark-to-market in each period - which is a broker dealer requirement, it’s not a choice. So because we hold them as a broker dealer, we have to mark them to market and show them in our income statement. I can’t explain to you why banks aren’t held to the same rules, but there are lots of accounting conventions that are different between banks and brokers.

Got it. Understood. So, basically E*TRADE’s bank is – gets consolidated within their financial filings, so it’s a different standard. So, I guess in order to reflect kind of our steady state financials or I guess comparable financials to these other brokers, could it be possible to just list the pure amount, like $15 million this quarter, in the press releases going forward somewhere?

Anything is possible. We – Sean, we take your request. We have to be a little circumspect when talking about which things to report on, because if you report non-GAAP measures, you may end up having to do more disclosure, etcetera. I understand it will be helpful to you, so we will absolutely consider it.

Got it. Yes, it would be helpful in kind of timely modeling purposes. And then next question is around adviser, I know there has been a large new Department of Labor rule published. I think it goes into effect next April and it’s over 1,000 pages. So, I haven’t actually read the whole thing for myself, but I think – the gist of it is kind of more strictly defining fiduciary duty and what a fiduciary is for the RIAs, for the advisers. I am wondering if the net impact on Interactive should be positive or negative or no real impact, how do you guys view that?

I am sorry, can you ask me again?

Yes, sure. There is a DoL – Department of Labor has a huge new rule with, that kind of redefines, I think, the definition of fiduciary duty or investment advisers.

Yes.

And I would think it should help Interactive, because our costs would be much lower for the end customer potentially and we don’t pay kickbacks to the advisers, right? So, we don’t give...

That is correct. So, we run a very pristine shop and we don’t take anything from customers other than commissions and we tell them exactly what it is and it’s much lower than anybody else you would compare us to. So, we think that, especially from the point of view of registered advisers, it is going to be helpful for them to cope with that rule when they bring their accounts over on to our platform.

Got it. Perfect. Thank you very much.

Yes. And I am sorry, it seems – it appears that I have misstated the retirement date of Hans Stoll. It is actually the last day of 2016. So, Hans is retiring on December 31, 2016. This is his last board meeting today. If anybody else has questions, we...

Yes, sir. And we have one last question from Doug Mewhirter of SunTrust. Your line is open.

Hi, good evening. I just had one quick question. Do you have – did you have any material credit losses or exposure from the British pound flash crash in early October?

No.

Okay, thanks that’s all my questions.

Thank you.

Thank you. And there are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back over for closing remarks.

There are no further remarks, right?

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference. You may now disconnect at this time. Good day.