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Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Tue, May 7, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the Chorus Call conference operator. Welcome to the IAMGOLD 2019 First Quarter Operating and Financial Results Conference Call and Webcast. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Indi Gopinathan, Investor Relations Lead for IAMGOLD. Please go ahead, Ms. Gopinathan.

Indi Gopinathan

Analyst

Thank you very much. And welcome to the IAMGOLD conference call. Joining me today on the call are Steve Letwin, President and CEO of IAMGOLD; Gord Stothart, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; Carol Banducci, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Craig MacDougall, Senior Vice President, Exploration; and Jeff Snow, Senior Vice President, Business Development and General Counsel. Our remarks on this call will include forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language regarding forward-looking information in our disclosure documents, and be advised that the same cautionary language applies to our remarks during the call. The slides referenced on this call can be viewed on our Web site. I will now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Steve Letwin.

Steve Letwin

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Obviously we had one of our tougher quarters here in a long time. I want to reinforce that IAMGOLD is committed to achieving a self-funding model with all of our cash requirements met by our mines. In the slide that you have in front of us, we’re basically tasking all of our mines with generating cash flows on a standalone basis. We want to be able to cover our corporate exploration and project expenditures, and those will draw from the overall pool but our goal and we will be aggressively pursuing it this year is to reduce our cost, improve productivity and create a model where we are simply self-funding across the board. So on Slide 6, if we go through our various mines, we’re going to be focusing on each and every one of them to reduce the cost, increase margins, preserve cash and fund all our cash requirements with these site cash flows. Our general managers are in town this week. We’re going to ensure that we obviously work safely and responsibly but we will be tasking each and every one of our general managers with these objectives. At Essakane as you know we have strong production and are working to optimize performance through deep bottlenecking the mill and other projects. We aim to complete a CIL and Heap Leach Feasibility Study in the second quarter. At Rosebel, we reported significant reserve growth. We’re extending the mine life. Saramacca development is ongoing with first production planned in the second half of this year. At Westwood where we’ve had some seismicity challenges, we had a long life production asset in a transition year. Gord will speak a lot more comprehensively to what we’re doing. But we recently right-sized the operations through a headcount reduction. We let…

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. As Steve noted, Q1 2019 was a challenging quarter. This first slide presents key performance highlights for the first quarter. Revenues were $251 million in the quarter while cost of sales came in at $251.9 million, resulting in a gross loss of just under $1 million. Adjusted net loss was $2.2 million or nil per share. And net cash flow from operating activities before changes in working capital was $33.8 million in the first quarter. We ended the quarter in a strong financial position with cash, cash equivalents, short-term investments, primarily in money market funds and restricted cash of $696.6 million at March 31, 2019, down $61.4 million from December 31, 2018. The decrease was primarily due to spending on property, plant and equipment totaling $59.7 million partially offset by cash generated from operating activities at $8.8 million. In accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards, we reduced cash costs and depreciation attributed to inventory at Westwood for the first quarter 2019 by $11.3 million and $5 million, respectively, to normalize for the amount of fixed overhead on a per unit basis as a consequence of abnormally low production. Normalization impact total cash costs and all-in sustaining cost metrics but does not reduce cost of sales per ounce. Despite our short-term challenges, I wanted to take a moment to highlight our continuing strong financial position. As noted on this slide, which compares IAMGOLD with peers as of March 31, 2019, we have a leading balance sheet from a cash and cash equivalents and short-term investment perspective. We are positioned to withstand gold price volatility and will continue to exercise prudence in the allocation of capital with cash preservation a key focus. I’ll now pass the call over to Gord.

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Thanks, Carol. So our top priority at IAMGOLD is the health and safety of our employees. On the basis of a 200,000-man hour record, our total recordable injury rate or TRI rate for the first quarter of 2019 was 0.91, which is below our internal targets which are based on continuous improvement versus prior years. The DART rate or days away, restricted or transferred duty rate was 0.58 which is also below target. So we are pleased with our progress there. Unfortunately, the health and safety performance of the company was tragically affected by the vitality of a contract with the Essakane mine in the first quarter of 2019 due to an equipment fire. We continue to work every day to meet or exceed our safety goals implementing several initiatives including a new behavior-based safety program to ensure a safer working environment. Total consolidated attributable production for the quarter was 185,000 ounces. All-in sustaining costs were $1,086 an ounce just outside of the guidance for the full year. Note that all-in sustaining costs at the consolidated level includes corporate G&A costs. We maintain our full year 2019 production guidance of 810,000 to 870,000 attributable ounces and guidance for all-in sustaining costs per ounce sold of $1,030 to $1,080 per ounce. We are maintaining our full year guidance for cost of sales per ounce of $790 to $840 per ounce and total cash cost per ounce produced of $765 to $815, but note that a number of costs and productivity improvement initiatives are underway to mitigate the risk that these two targets may not be achieved by the end of the year. Guidance will be reviewed in the second quarter 2019 and updated as necessary. Gold production at Westwood is expected to improve starting in the second quarter of 2019 compared…

Craig MacDougall

Analyst

Thank you, Gord, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin, please note that the results I talk about today have been previously disclosed in accordance with securities regulations and signed off by the qualified persons within the company reporting them. During the quarter, we completed just over 78,000 meters of drilling at our various active projects and mine sites including at Essakane to support the Feasibility Study and at Rosebel along trended Saramacca and to evaluate the underground potential of the deposits. At Nelligan, we announced the remaining assay results from our 2018 diamond drilling program. Highlights include 5.69 grams per ton gold over 27.8 meters; 3.59 grams per ton gold over 42.1 meters; and 2.35 grams per ton gold over 40.4 meters. Additionally, we completed approximately 12,800 meters during the quarter to infill and test the continuity of mineralization associated with the Renard Zone. These results coupled with the ongoing geological, geochemical and structural studies will be innovated to support the development and refinement of the deposit model with an objective of completing a NI 43-101 compliant resource estimate in the second half of 2019. At the Côté Gold project, we reported diamond drilling results from our 2017-2018 exploration program which identified a new intrusive-hosted gold discovery referred to as the Gosselin Zone. This zone is located approximately 1.5 kilometers northwest of the Côté deposit. Highlights include; 350 meters grading 0.81 grams per ton gold, 132.3 meters grading 1.13 grams per ton gold, and 139.7 meters grading 1.36 grams per ton gold. Building on our 2018 exploration successes, we are working to advance some of our early stage projects including a maiden resource at Nelligan while continuing to support our near mine exploration to leverage our existing infrastructure. With that, I’ll pass it over to Steve to conclude.

Steve Letwin

Analyst

Thanks, Craig. Look, this performance in Q1 is simply not acceptable. I can tell you none of us around the table are happy. I particularly am not. I know Gord’s not pleased, either is Carol or Craig or Jeff. And similar to what we had to do a few years ago, we’ve had 10 strong quarters in a row here and last year at this time we were sitting a lot better in terms of our cost structure and certainly market sentiment. But we have to deal with reality and we have to deal with the fact that our sites need to be producing enough cash flow to support our company. If they don’t then obviously we have to take immediate action to remedy this. And I can tell you and I think you know me well enough, we will be taking immediate action. We will be aggressively looking at cost right across the board starting in this office, we will be looking again at everything we do from a productivity standpoint and we are very fortunate that we have near-term catalysts that we believe we will add value. This is the Essakane CIL and Heap Leach Feasibility Study in the first half of the year followed in the second half with Saramacca production. The Westwood plan update and an initial Nelligan resource receipt of the mining permit of Boto. I’m headed to Suriname next week. I’ll be spending five days there. I then head to West Africa and I’ll be spending a week in Essakane. I’ll be then coming back and spending time at Westwood. We have to go back. It’s a bit of back to the future. We got to go back in time and look at our self-funding model again. And there are no excuses here. We…

Indi Gopinathan

Analyst

Yes.

Steve Letwin

Analyst

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question is from Steven Butler with GMP Securities. Please go ahead, sir.

Steven Butler

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Yes, it was a tough quarter, reassure [ph] that sentiment, unfortunately. Gord, at Westwood, what confidence do you have at the moment in the ability for this asset to mine safely? Obviously you highlighted your safety record which has been a good one overall. I guess at Westwood your thoughts on the ability to safely mine this asset in the future and maybe what is unique about the asset and the activity. We don’t see seismicity as a regularly occurring concern. But what is maybe unique about Westwood as far as you know?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Yes, I’m confident that we can mine it safely. We need to revisit specific areas on how we attack certain zones. The whole deposit is not affected by seismic activity. We have some very specific zones where seismicity has crept up couple of times. Unfortunately for us that is related to some of our higher grade material. Importantly, I’d note that the seismicity is really an issue in the footwall zones, it isn’t an issue in the ore zones. We have not reduced or we’re not taking any of our resources out of inventory as a result of the seismic activity. It just affects how we access and we need to revisit the mine methods and the sequencing specifically in those areas. We do have access to other zones and that’s where we’re focusing right now. Unfortunately with the last events that we had there at the end of 2018, that was the high grade production for the first part of this year and so obviously the impacts are strongest in the near term. So the impacts to Q1 as a result were high. We’ve been able to drive out into other zones free of that sort of issue and starting production from those. And as I said in the commentary really expect to build through the year with a very strong Q4 at Westwood. We’re looking at where opportunities are. We’ve got a team put together that is reviewing the overall mine plan for Westwood. The team has been constituted and the work is underway. As we said, we expect to be able to give some preliminary results with an update towards the end of this year. I don’t think that we’re particularly different from some of our near field neighbors. We know our next door neighbor to the East has ongoing seismic issues. To their benefit, they’ve been operating for 30 plus years and have multiple work areas so that they’re able to anticipate where there could be problems and move to new zones, whereas we don’t quite yet have that flexibility. We’re working to build it. I spoke to the fact that we’re attacking Block 3 now and that will continue to add some flexibility for us. So it’s a challenge in the short term. We’re driving to make it cash flow neutral this year and that was sort of the primary motivation behind the layoff we made. And in our forecast we are achieving cash flow neutrality for Westwood in 2019. The team is strong there. We’ve added some fresh blood. As I said, we put this study team together in parallel and really looking forward to what’s coming out. I have regular contact with individuals on the team and they’re all very positive that we will put together a solution to build a safe and profitable Westwood with a long life going ahead of it.

Steven Butler

Analyst

Okay, Gord. Thanks. Just one last question. At Essakane, I think the grade was reasonably okay in the first quarter. I just want to ask a question about is grade sequencing any explanation for a better second half at Essakane or not or maybe is it just driven by expected improvements in throughput? And do you think you can deliver the increased throughput? You talked about coarser feed size. Maybe that’s a crushing issue or blasting issue in Q1 and mill availability. Maybe just a few thoughts there on the mill performance at Essakane going forward?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Yes, those comments were really in reference to the first quarter from last year. First quarter from last year was blowout wonderful. And so when we’re comparing quarter-on-quarter, it’s maybe a little bit more of a trip back to earth. We are working on blasting. We did have some major maintenance – program maintenance in the first quarter that we won’t see going forward. So that will certainly provide us with uptime not that the availability there is bad. It’s already over 94%. We continue to work on mine to mill optimizing the blasting programs to manage the throughput through the crusher. And with the second half of the year, yes, we get into slightly better grades as we mine down in phase 3. We do have some opportunities that we’re looking at and we talked about optimizations to bring a few additional ounces into the plan for Essakane this year. So I’m waiting with bated breath on the site to come back to me with those plans and understand where we’re at.

Steven Butler

Analyst

Okay, Gord. Thank you very much.

Gord Stothart

Analyst

No problem. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Anita Soni with CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my call. So first question is regards to the $8.8 million in stripping at Essakane that’s project-related capital. Could you give me some color on that? And what kind of growth that’s going to be attributable to?

Carol Banducci

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Maybe I’ll start, Anita. So when we take a look at our capital stripping, we take a look at when we’re actually going to be accessing that ore. So if we’re going to access that ore within the next year, then it’s part of our sustaining account. A little bit beyond that, then it factors into the categorization of expansion capital.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. And what would --

Carol Banducci

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Did that answer your question?

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Yes, it did. So when you did the strip ratio for operating – that was the operating result, right? That doesn’t include the 8.8 when you’re reporting the strip there?

Steve Letwin

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

I have to check on that one, Anita. I believe our strip ratio reports all waste categories, but I need to confirm that.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay.

Steve Letwin

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

I don’t think we for strip ratio we change it, no.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. So from a production profile for Westwood, can you give us an idea of how the tonnage and grade will evolve over the course of the year? You started at 15,000 ounces and that’s low relative to the guidance. So I’m just wondering how you’re reiterating the guidance and how you’re going to get there.

Steve Letwin

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

The grades are better in the fourth quarter than they are in the first three quarters. The tonnage does pick up start in Q2. I don’t have the numbers hard at hand here, but we do – sorry, just getting something here. Yes, so the tonnage steps up here in Q2. It’s about 30% higher than it was in Q1 for Q2, Q3 and then we get another step up or maybe another 15% on top of that by Q4. Grade build through the year; Q1 was low because we were including some low grade stockpiles to fill the mill while we redirected the mine plan to some of the newer – the outer production areas. But we do see a nice little step up of grades both in Q2 and Q3 and then a further step up in Q4.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then just in terms of the Rosebel capital spend, it’s pretty late versus the budget. So given that Saramacca is supposed to be delivering in H2, how should we see the capital evolving? Is there going to be a big slug of it coming in Q2 or is it spread out Q2, Q3?

Steve Letwin

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

As of right now we’re maintaining our capital guidance. We do see – Q2 and Q3 will – it’s fairly even through the last three quarters because – a lot of the capital spend is built around the road building at Saramacca. We are also starting to receive some equipment, but a good deal of that equipment is coming in under our leasing arrangements. So it doesn’t hit us that much. We are also reviewing our opportunities to push some of the Saramacca infrastructure costs, things like maintenance shops and so forth a little later on.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

And then one last question before I let other people ask some questions. So at Essakane, what proportion of hard ore are you in now? Is it 100% or is it still somewhat below that?

Steve Letwin

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

I think we’re in and around 80%, but let me confirm that for you. Yes, 85%.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

And when do you anticipate getting to 100%.

Steve Letwin

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

If we continue to have success with the exploration stuff, it may be three or four years. But certainly in our current life of mine I think we get to 100% 2021. We’re still getting some soft rock Fala again too for the next couple of years. We do have Gossey. Gossey is being incorporated into the new mine plans and I apologize because I haven’t looked at that level of granularity as to when it’s sequenced, but there is some soft rock there. But typically looking 90% plus from sort of '20, '21 on unless we have some success someplace else and then we’ll recast it.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

All right. Thank you very much.

Carol Banducci

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Anita, just on your last question, strip ratio does include all waste.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

All waste including that 8.8 million that you had --

Carol Banducci

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Yes.

Anita Soni

Analyst · CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Tanya Jakusconek with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

Great. Good morning, everybody. First one is a simple one just for outlook for 2019 in terms of quarterly how we look at the production profile growing. Does it make sense, Gord, that you mentioned that second half better grades at Essakane; you then mentioned better grades plus throughput, strong Q4 Westwood and then Rosebel we have Saramacca really coming in, in Q4. So is it safe to assume that your Q4 will be your best quarter?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Per forecast right now, yes, Q4 looks superior to the others but as Steve mentioned we are looking at ways to improve the intervening quarters if we can as well. I think there are some opportunities certainly for Q2 and Q3 to improve beyond – they will be improved beyond where Q1 was. It’s just a matter of scale right now.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

Okay. And then I just wanted to circle back on Westwood and a couple of questions there. I think, Gord, you mentioned that the seismic areas are just in the footwall and not in the ore zone areas. Maybe just as a benchmark if you were to say the seismic areas as a percentage of reserves or resources, what are we talking about?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

In terms of total resources, it’s probably somewhere between 6% and 8% of total resources.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful. And then just maybe a bit of clarity. You’re putting out a preliminary life of mine plan and I guess in Q4 and then you’re putting out 43-101 compliant plan in H1 of 2020. Can you let us know exactly what that means, because usually you file a technical 43-101 45 days after you put out your life of mine plan. So what’s the preliminary and why the lag and what are we really expecting on that front from you?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Well, I think what we’ll be able to do towards the end of the year is speak to how quickly we can get and what sort of sustained production levels we’re targeting. We probably won’t be able to supply the full level of detail that you would see from a 43-101. But we know everybody’s looking for some indications. The group is going to strive to get everything done as quickly as possible obviously, but we want to make sure that it’s technically consistent and supportable before we come out with a full blown report. So we’re trying obviously within the secure fees regulations come out with some indications as to where we see things going, like Q4. But we didn’t want to sort of overpromise that you’re going to get a full blown LOM with all the details.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

So if I was to take what you said, we’re looking maybe at just production targets for Q4 and then cost capital and maybe reserve and resources as sort of in 2020?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Yes, I hope we have some cost for you as well in Q4.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe, Carol, can you remind us what the book value is on your books for Westwood?

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Yes, it’s about $500 million.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

I guess that will be reviewed with year-end numbers.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

That’s correct.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

We review all of our assets quarterly, so Westwood and all the other ones.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

I would assume that once you look at the reserves and resources based on mine plants, cost and other that would be a time to really take a look at the 500 million.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

That’s correct.

Tanya Jakusconek

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Mike Parkin with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

Michael Parkin

Analyst

Hi, guys. Just a couple of questions. Can you give us a sense of how Westwood’s been performing in the month of April?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

Yes. We’re starting to see that pickup in production a little bit. I can’t give you a lot of detail. We don’t report on a monthly basis, but starting to see things a little bit. Obviously with the size of the layoff like we had, we’ve been spending some time sort of rebuilding the team and getting them around the place. We’ve got some new leadership that’s recently installed there and he’s very bullish about what the next couple of months is going to be and driving it forward.

Michael Parkin

Analyst

Okay. And then with those layoffs, is there any severance fees that will be carrying over into Q2 or are those all pretty much booked in Q1?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

I’m looking at Carol but I believe they’re all in Q1, the severance.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Yes, that’s correct. Again, as Steve said, we’re going to continue to look across the organization in terms of right-sizing, but absolutely the cost for Westwood was frequent 2 million in the first quarter and that was reflected in our disclosure.

Michael Parkin

Analyst

Okay. And then with Saramacca you mentioned the second half start, can we get any additional color as we’re nearing that in terms of expectations for startup just to kind of set the tone right in terms of tonnage expectation?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

In terms of ounce production for this year, it’s not a huge number. It’s probably in the neighborhood of 5% of our production for this year, not much more. As I stated, we are looking at some opportunities. There is some very near surface materials we’re seeing if we can stockpile it. In terms of sequencing the road, we’re about 30% of the road is at least roughed in now and continuing to work forward, we’re seeing pretty good progress. We are heading into the West season, so we expect that that will change a few things. We’re going to get the road roughed in some time probably Q4, although there are opportunities to improve upon it. What we are also looking at is we do have alternative routes between Saramacca and Rosebel and that’s one of the things we’re looking at to see if we can accelerate some of the ore by alternative routes until the full haul road’s in position. Equipment deliveries are basically starting – they’ve already started and continue to move forward. We are on this site doing tree clearing and driving the access road up into the pit putting the ore path in place, building the infrastructure path. There’s a lot of work ongoing right now. Again, we’re saying second half ore delivery. If I can make it Q3, I’ll make it Q3. Right now it’s probably Q4.

Michael Parkin

Analyst

Okay. And I remember you guys were commenting on the strip ratio being a bit conservative potentially because you were still working on models with the water table. How is that progressing?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

A lot of that work is progressing. Later designs – the more recent designs I’ve seen have more aggressive pit slopes in the saprolite, so that’s positive and obviously that’s positively impacting the strip ratios. I did mention – I mentioned a number of times we are continuing to look at the underground and that has the opportunity to make really a complete game changer in terms of what the strip ratio would be and the total volumes offset by accessing higher grade hard rock underground. So that one we’re really working hard on. But to your original question, yes, a lot of the hydrogeology work is already come out in favor, some of that saprolite slopes have moved up by as much as 5 degrees, 6 degrees.

Michael Parkin

Analyst

Okay, that’s good. When could we expect kind of a broader update for that project in terms of kind of those new numbers in terms of where you could see strip if there is a potential for an underground timing, that kind of thing?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

I haven’t sat down with the guys and worked out an exact schedule, but I know internally we were eager to try and get some information out into the market late Q3, early Q4 as we start production, we’d like to be able to sort of speak to what the future for Saramacca looks like about that period of time.

Michael Parkin

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s it for me, guys. Thanks so much.

Steve Letwin

Analyst

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Carey MacRury with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Carey MacRury

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Just another question on Westwood, the mining rate in Q1 was about 1,000 tons per day down from your 1,500, 1,600 prior. Given the workforce reduction, is that the sort of rate we should expect in the near future until the longer-term plans are --?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

No. As I mentioned earlier, we do see a step up starting in Q2 on the production rate as the hoisting rate, if you will, and then a further step up in Q4.

Carey MacRury

Analyst

Where do you think you will exit the year then on Q4?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

In terms of production – give me a few seconds here. Yes, by Q4 we’re 60% higher throughput than we’re showing in Q1.

Carey MacRury

Analyst

And then we should carry that into kind of 2020 until your longer term plan is that sort of rate?

Steve Letwin

Analyst

That’s my hope. We’ll see where – again, we’re working pretty closely with the site to find out what numbers make sense there.

Carey MacRury

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Steve Letwin

Analyst

Thanks, Carey.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Don MacLean with Paradigm Capital. Please go ahead.

Don MacLean

Analyst

Good morning, guys. Gord, can we get a little more color on the Saramacca underground? It sounds like it’s a pretty significant shift. What do you need for this to actually become the scenario and maybe a little bit of color on the impact on the economics capital requirement --?

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Yes, so we did some desktop work late last year on the underground option really looking at mining the saprolite and some of the transition open pit and then converting the higher grade zones below that to underground. The net impact are very substantial in terms of the volume of waste. There is over 150 million tons less waste from open pit in that scenario which obviously creates a pool of cash in your cash flow that can be redirected in a different direction. You do lose a few lower grade hard rock ounces within the original pit, however, you carry high grade below the existing pit. So on the back of that desktop work we did last year, we’ve been out drilling some deeper holes on the primary shoots to understand what the continuity of those is going deeper. We haven’t released those results and we are considering doing that at some point in time together with some of the work that Craig’s team is doing on the strike expansions of the saprolite zone. And it’s a bit of – you’re sort of chasing your tail trying to drill deeper underground. We’re not talking deep. By any means we’re talking sort of 300, 400 meters. It’s not as deep as our other mines because of the topography there. It’s actually pretty close. The underground areas wouldn’t be very far below sort of the bottom of the valley. There’s some geometry that sort of works in our favor there. We’ve drilled enough I think now to do closer – PA sort of level study on the underground option. One of the challenges obviously if you recast the deposit as underground versus open pit, you have to reexamine your categorization of your resource because of the drill spacing. So we’re trying to wrap our heads around that. But that work continues to move forward and it’s interesting that the deeper drilling we’ve done has encouraged us to continue studying.

Don MacLean

Analyst

Right, so you’re finding the indications of the continuity.

Gord Stothart

Analyst

Yes.

Don MacLean

Analyst

Interesting. I will look forward to that. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes the time allocated for questions on today's call. I will now hand the call back over to Indi Gopinathan for closing remarks.

Indi Gopinathan

Analyst

Thank you very much. And thanks to everyone for joining us this morning and for your continued interest in IAMGOLD. We look forward to having you join us on our Q2 2019 conference call in early August. Goodbye.