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Q2 2010 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 11, 2010

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to IAMGOLD Corporation's 2010 second quarter financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. (Operator Instructions) I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on Wednesday, August 11th, at 11:00 a.m. Eastern Daily Time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Bob Tait, vice president, investor relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Bob Tait

Management

Thank you, and good morning. Welcome to IAMGOLD's second quarter conference call. Earlier today, we published a news release outlining our operating performance and financial results for the second quarter. The accompanying financial statements, notes, and MD&A have been posted to the SEDAR, EDGAR, and the company's Web site. Joining me today are Peter C. Jones, president and CEO of IAMGOLD; Gordon Stothart, executive vice president and chief operating officer; Carol Banducci, executive vice president, CFO; Larry Phillips, executive vice president, corporate affairs; and, Mike Donnelly, senior vice president, exploration. Please note that management's remarks will include forward-looking statements related to this news release. I'll refer you to the cautionary language regarding forward-looking information in the release and advise you that the same cautionary language apply to our remarks during the call. We have prepared slides, which can be viewed via our Web site. And at this time, I'll turn the call over to our president and CEO, Peter C. Jones.

Peter Jones

Management

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everybody. As the price of gold remains high, IAMGOLD realized healthy margins, strong net earnings, and robust cash flows in the face of higher cash costs in the second quarter. On a year-over-year basis, second quarter adjusted net earnings rose 24% to $39.1 million or $0.11 a share, while operating cash flow rose 32% to $51.4 million or $0.14 a share. Revenues declined 5% when compared to the second quarter of 2009 due to lower gold production. Our realized gold margin increased 25% to $577 an ounce in the second quarter, up from $461 a year ago. Costs have increased year-over-year due to anticipated lower grades of Rosebel, Sadiola, Yatela, and Mupane; lower levels of gold production, and higher royalty and energy costs. Gold production in the second quarter of 2010 was 190,000 ounces to our account, down 59,000 ounces or 24% from a year ago. The decline is mainly due to the closure of the Doyon mine in December 2009, and the ongoing stockpiling of ore at Mouska for batch processing in the fourth quarter. Niobec, our niobium mine, continues to perform well. On a year-over-year basis, production increased 18% to 1.1 million kilograms in the second quarter. Sales also rose 11% to 1.058 million kilograms in the same period. And we continued to realize a steady margin of $19 a kilogram. We're also revising upwards our guidance for 2010. With the startup of Essakane and the completed expansion at Niobec, we now anticipate that gold production will range higher between 980,000 ounces and just over 1 million ounces this year. And niobium output will jump to between 4.5 million and 4.7 million kilograms. We expect gold cash costs in the range of $530 to $550 an ounce. Several initiatives are already underway to…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Okay. Your first question comes in from Sabrina Grandchamps at HSBC. Please go ahead. Sabrina Grandchamps – HSBC: Hi. Good morning. I have only a question regarding your CapEx increase at Essakane. Could you provide more specific details on what caused the increase? And is there any potential that whatever caused it could result in an impact on your operational costs ongoing for the mines?

Peter Jones

Management

Well, CapEx, no, there really isn't. We had increases in deliveries, costs at some of the local infrastructure. But everything we see, so far, points to the fact that we're going to be operating at that – our indicated costs. Sabrina Grandchamps – HSBC: And the pressures that you saw in the shipping loan flow through or continue when you're operating?

Peter Jones

Management

No. Remember in the shipping, we're bringing in a lot of equipment in a very short period of time. Sabrina Grandchamps – HSBC: Okay.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

I can add to that, too. We can actually mine a lot more material as well, so that's added to the cost. And that'll eventually move into inventory. And we spent a bit more money on community services. And that's factored into the increase. Sabrina Grandchamps – HSBC: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from Don MacLean of Paradigm Capital. Please go ahead. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: Hello. Good morning, guys. I think a number of us out here would certainly benefit from some review of your outlook for the longer term cash costs of the various projects given how sharply the costs have gone up. It's pretty rare that we see such a large increase in costs across the board. So it's probably leaving a number of us, certainly me, a little unsettled in terms of what to expect with the longer term cash costs. And while I realize you can't tell us specifically what they're going to be, maybe Peter, you and Gord, can give us some sense of the direction you would expect them to go and some rough sense of the magnitude in the – looking longer term, not just Q2, but use Q2 as your benchmark.

Peter Jones

Management

Why don't I start off with Rosebel? And then, turn it over to Gord to talk about West Africa. I'm assuming you're not referring to Niobec at all, which has had a great run. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: Yes.

Peter Jones

Management

And Rosebel has been very much driven by grade. And we anticipated, in the first half of the year, lower grade. And particularly, in the second quarter, which is the peak of the rainy season for us, we had 25% increase in rain in the second quarter, particularly in the latter part of the quarter, which prevented us from getting the higher grade material that we anticipated. So our grade dropped from an expectation of over 1.1 grams to slightly over 0.9 grams, which is pretty significant. And we don't expect to see that going forward. So we think that we should be able to lower Rosebel's costs significantly in the second half of the year and going forward from that. Gord will talk about West Africa.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

Okay. Looking at West Africa, with respect to Sadiola – we start with Sadiola. We knew that this year was going to be a higher cost year for Sadiola. And under the existing mine plan through the existing resources – outside resources there, the grades are – should remain more or less in the same area we are. So we saw a jump at Sadiola, but they are on plan. Obviously, at Sadiola in the longer term, our expectation, depending on a positive result from the feasibility study on the Sadiola sulphides, moves us into a much lower cost regime in the longer term as well on the of the back of the success we're seeing right now from the exploration work. Our expectation if that there will be additional outside resources and reserves at Sadiola in the longer term. Yatela is in a different place this year than it was a year ago. Last year, we are mining in the main pit, and not only mining in the main pit, but higher grade material in the bottom of the main pit. This year, we're mining at the satellite Alamoutala pit. It's lower grade. It's got a higher stripping ratio, plus a longer-haul, all of those contributing in the costs. Again, we're exploring Yatela. And we have hopes for further expansions. But in a way, we're already mining on borrowed time at Yatela having pushed half the original closure date at the end of last year. And Tarkwa and Damang have set themselves up well. And the cost structures at Tarkwa and Damang are primarily on the back of increased fuel costs, and some increased power costs, and certainly the increased royalty costs; all of those contributing to their costs. Where we see those going, generally, stabilized at the current levels. Obviously, they'll continue to work on optimizing certain aspects. At Tarkwa, they already have fairly attractive unit-operating costs. But it's a fairly low-grade operation. So the uptakes have significantly changed the costs there – are not huge. At Damang, the completion in the second quarter of the secondary crushing plant will allow us to treat a much higher proportion of higher grade hard ores going forward through the same plant, which will certainly help offset costs. Mupane, as Peter discussed, the mine is at the end of its life. So it doesn't affect our overall costs in a big way. It's not a large proportion of our costs. And we're working with the local management there just to maintain positive cash flow in the current high price environment, and carry that project through the end of its life profitably.

Peter Jones

Management

I think the key determinant of that cost going forward might be Essakane, which is a significantly lower cost produce; and starting later in this quarter, but absolutely in the fourth quarter, will have a significant effect on that cost structure. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: Maybe the specific – this is an important question on Rosebel. If we look at the longer term cash costs for Rosebel, do you think it is capable of getting in about mid $400 range or upper $400? Or are we going to still – are we seeing a move because we're seeing across the board companies suffering cash cost increases? Are we really into a $500-plus regime for it?

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

No, absolutely mid $400s. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: Terrific. Okay. Thanks.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

(inaudible) here.

Peter Jones

Management

Life of mine average grades at Rosebel is significantly higher than we thought in the second quarter. And that's really the determinant. They've got very attractive unit operating costs, and the throughput Rosebel is going to gain by that. It's truly a great effect that you're seeing there. And we will be working, as we do every year, to improve our response to the rainy season. This one was an exceptional rainy season, which really cost us. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: Maybe one last thing on the demand cost with the additional – the changes to the plant, can it get itself under $600 or even under the $500 range per ounce.

Peter Jones

Management

I think $600 would be a very aggressive target for them. I would like to see them down there. And we certainly support Gold Fields' efforts in that regard. It isn't the most grade operation in the world. They do have some longer term opportunities there. They are looking at making some investments now that they've increased the life, perhaps some mining equipment capital, perhaps some additional changes to the processing circuit that can help bring costs down. However, I think – I would be happy if I thought at $600. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: This is demand.

Peter Jones

Management

Demand. Don MacLean – Paradigm Capital: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes in from Haytham Hodaly at Salman Partners. Go ahead, please. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: Good morning, everybody.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Good morning. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: Just a few simple questions, let's start with Essakane. I guess, how much of the 500,000 ounces that you budgeted between now and the end of 2011 – or 500,000-plus I guess, would you realistically expect to come up this year?

Peter Jones

Management

I think we'll be in the $150 to $160 range. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: And what do you think are your costs associated – I mean will you be able to bring costs down to the level as you're hoping to get them to immediately? Or do you see any – some initial cost pressures?

Peter Jones

Management

Well, the first quarter of operations, obviously, that includes the run off to a commercial operation level. But there's no reason why in Q4 they shouldn't be at an offering range. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: Okay. And then, let's move on just to your guidance that you gave, I guess your revised guidance, 980,000 1.01 million. Does that incorporate 100% to that base we've had on a consolidated basis or is that – take the – your shares of Rosebel and Essakane?

Peter Jones

Management

That's our account. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: That's the 95% of Rosebel and 90% Essakane

Peter Jones

Management

Correct.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Correct. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: Perfect. And last question, just housekeeping, your effective tax rate, Carol, in terms of what you're expecting for this year so far.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

It's in a range around 35% to 36%. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: How much of that do you expect to be deferred?

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Fifteen percent, 15% to 20%. Haytham Hodaly – Salman Partners: Perfect. That's it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Dan Rollins with UBS Securities. Please go ahead. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Thanks. Peter, I was wondering if you could expand on your commentary regarding CEO search, regarding an announcement in the short term.

Peter Jones

Management

No, I don't think I can. It's in a very delicate stage. And I just have to stick by the fact that it will be short term. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Okay. So you're waiting for the candidates, if there's been a chosen one, to (inaudible) induction before making an announcement.

Peter Jones

Management

Right. You know how the damage goes? Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Yes, for sure. Another question for you, you had mentioned earlier in the call that you've already started initiatives to lower costs at all the mines. Could you maybe focus on what are the key cost initiatives you're currently focused on?

Peter Jones

Management

Yes, I'll let Gord do to that because he is – it's his focus now.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

Yes. Well, starting with Rosebel itself, in addition to the increased rates we were looking for in the second quarter, we have a number of projects looking to improve recovery. The most important one is the construction of some additional leach tanks. That will be completed later in the third quarter, commissioned early in the fourth quarter or hopefully even sooner. But beyond that, we've been doing some enhancements of the gravity circuit that are already starting to bear a fruit. We're looking at our current management system and think we can squeeze some additional recovery out of that. On the mine side, they've been working on improving ore dilution through adjusted blasts and digging practices as well as the mines have some cost programs on fuel entire cost. At Sadiola, we talked about the second gravity concentrator coming on line in the third quarter. That will improve recoveries. Obviously, that's free revenue at no cost, so that's – or almost no cost. As well in Sadiola, they're really starting to look at tighter control of the mining contractor by the site management and oversight with the objective to improve their total mine cost performance. Mupane is not a significant player, but it's certainly a lot of our higher cost operations. At Mupane, they've improved the recovery already at the mill by a move, which is grinding in cyanide. Currently, they're looking to improve the residence time through the use of a previously decommissioned flotation circuit for leaching capacity. Niobec, even Niobec has had a great year. But again, we're starting to look at opportunities for cost management. Increased production with the startup of the new plant in Q4 will obviously help us on the fixed cost portion. The paced drilling costs was really just moving in an optimization phase now, now that plant up and running. And as it moves into full productivity, we're really looking – managing those cost downwards. As well in the converted plant, we're looking at increasing the productivity to another operational announcement. And sitting above that at the corporate level, we have – we're in the midst of instituting a corporate live energy management program, really looking for opportunities in power savings from the key operations this year and the other operations moving forward to improve tracking and instrumentation. For 2010, we're concentrating on Niobec, Rosebel, and Essakane. And one example would be the installation of additional instrumentation at Niobec that will allow us to better balance the demand factor on startup of large equipment. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Perfect. And just help me confirm, you mentioned on the call here that you're spending – is it correct, a $158 million in CapEx in H2?

Peter Jones

Management

That's correct. We were front-end loaded this year mostly because of Essakane, but also projects in Niobec. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: And does that include any capitalized exploration?

Peter Jones

Management

Yes, this is not very much, but yes, some.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

Yes, a very minimal amount. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Okay. And how much of your exploration budget are – for the full year is basically related to Rosebel?

Peter Jones

Management

That's a good question. I'll ask Mike that.

Mike Donnelly

Analyst

It's $12.5 million directed at Rosebel. And then, we have an additional, roughly, $7 million elsewhere in (inaudible). Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Okay. Does that include the recent find to the north of the mine?

Mike Donnelly

Analyst

It does. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes in from Steven Butler with Canaccord Genuity. Go ahead, please. Steven Butler – Canaccord Genuity: Hello. Good morning, Peter, Gord, and Carol. A question for the guys on Rosebel, you talked about 20% of ore feed coming from the low grade stockpile. What was the grade of that stockpile or roughly because I didn't know?

Peter Jones

Management

That's actually a good question, Steve. I believe that stockpile runs typically around 0.7.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

That's correct. Steven Butler – Canaccord Genuity: Okay. And were you forced away from higher grade areas of the pits for – obviously, the water issues, rain issues, or – and of course, the lower grade pits? Or was that part of it? Or was it mostly explained by having done the analysis to see if it is all explainable by the stockpile grade? Is it also explained by other areas that several mines?

Peter Jones

Management

We couldn't get in to develop higher grade areas because of the rainfall. And so, we took more from lower grade stockpiles, which lowered our overall grade. It was 20% of the – all came from the low-grade stockpiles. Steven Butler – Canaccord Genuity: I guess (inaudible) question about whether higher grade or if the pits were also restricted in your – forced into lower grade areas, or does that – or was that not necessarily an issue?

Peter Jones

Management

We were mining low – we have planned to mine the lower grade in the first and second quarters. And in the last month of the second quarter, we were supposed to transition to higher grade areas. And we couldn't do that. Steven Butler – Canaccord Genuity: Okay. And Gordon, I think you mentioned – or Peter, the rain was particularly stronger in the latter part of the quarter. So there's the question that if indeed you've had a trickle, no pun intended, effect into Q3 or is it largely resolved. And what grades are you – have you been mining in the first month and change of Q3?

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

Our production for July, for example, was pretty much as for our forecast. So we're starting to – we're certainly starting to see the grades pick up strongly. And the rain – the rain conditions are continuing. And they're working hard at it, but they are really starting to dwindle. And we've got a big push on over the next while to a get into the (inaudible) and move that material to develop. Steven Butler – Canaccord Genuity: Okay. Lastly, just on Niobec, Gordon, the guidance raised, which is nice to see just to deliver very well. The Niobec guidance of raise, is it partly the – it must be the grade-related or versus your original plan? Or is it expecting your expansion of the – in operation as you alluded to in the – your answer to the question in the latter part of Q4 or early middle part of Q4 on the expansion? Thanks.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

Both. The first part of the year, we've enjoyed somewhat better grades that we had forecasted, positive reconciliation on the slopes that we had been mining for that period of time, a little bit of throughput than we had planned so far this year. But you're right on. A lot of the additional production will come from an earlier than originally planned completion to the mill expansion. And we're anticipating a pretty ramped up schedule in the longer term plan. I think we're a little conservative on our ramp-up schedule. And as we've started back and analyze it, I think we can certainly hit that plant quite a bit harder than fourth quarter. Steven Butler – Canaccord Genuity: Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) The next question comes in form Barry Cooper at CIBC. Go ahead, please. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Yes, Gordon. Just wondering, I listened to your explanation on the cost there, the one operation that doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense to me is Sadiola and I’m referring to quarter-over-quarter here because the throughput was basically the same. The strip ratio was a little bit higher but not that much. The grade was identical, the recovery was actually up in the quarter and yet the cost went up $100 an ounce. And even if you’re looking at royalties, royalties only account for $4 of that. So I’m a little perplexed as to what actually went on there that caused those costs to go up by that much.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

I don’t have a detail analysis specifically of it, but there were a couple of factors going on. One, although we treated a higher grade through the mill, the strip ratio did go up as it typically does there during the rainy season as we move on to lower ore benches and into the upper benches. There was higher stockpile movement, so we were putting material into the mill from stockpiles, which slashes the cost from quarter to quarter at Sadiola. We did treat a bit of sulfide ore in the second quarter. We did not treat the first in the first quarter on that. That comes to combat a higher operating cost. It does come at a high operating cost. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Is that reagents for the sulfide?

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

Yes, both reagent and power. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Right.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

And yes, there is a recovery effect there as well. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Yes, although the recover seemed to be, as I say better in Q1 – or in Q2 than in it was in Q1. So that doesn’t jibe with that issue.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

The recovery is more higher on – it’s the grades split. In the first quarter, the grades were coming from the lower grade oxides which tend to get a better recovery but not as good as iron grade oxide. Some of the sulfides coming in have been in the lower grade offset by higher recovery. It’s more or less equivalent. It wasn't a huge effect, that one. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Is it fair to say that your stockpiles or inventories are carried at a much higher cost than what you’re producing at right now under normal circumstances?

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

You see quarter-to-quarter fluctuations. They’re not carried at a lot higher cost, but depending on how much you’re putting in or pulling out stockpiles in any one quarter. You will see effects to the cash stock number. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Okay. Well, I’m still a little bit perplexed on that one anyway.

Gordon Stothart

Analyst

Well, think of it this way, Barry. In the first quarter, we mine heavily on ore typically and put a lot more into stockpile. In the second quarter, we mined more on waste and we’re pulling out of those stockpiles. So that goes to cash cost with material going into stockpile in the first quarter and tend to heap up in the second quarter. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Yes. Okay. I was just looking at the total material mined, and it’s pretty close, Q1 versus Q2.

Peter Jones

Management

Barry, we'll give you a breakdown and get back to you offline. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Okay. Then on Rosebel, what kind of changes on the recoveries are you anticipating with the additions there? Is that like 1% or 2% that you're anticipating?

Peter Jones

Management

Two percent and 3%, I would say. Barry Cooper – CIBC: Two percent to 3%. Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Next question comes in from David Christie at Scotia Capital. Go ahead, please. David Christie – Scotia Capital: Good morning, guys. I'm with Barry also, it seems a bit confusing. So if I can get some clarity, that'd be great. You mentioned the exploration about – to increase because you've had some good results in various places. I was wondering if you can give me a little more info on that. And just maybe on Essakane, you didn't really give a lot of details on how it's actually working there. And I was wondering how many tons of costs to the mill, and what kind of recoveries or reconciliations you're getting.

Peter Jones

Management

Well, as you can imagine, when startup mode, we've only really been operating for three weeks. David Christie – Scotia Capital: About a month now, is it now, right?

Peter Jones

Management

So it's all over the place, but we've been getting good recoveries, I will say that, variable, but well into the 90s. But I'll let Mike talk about exploration. David Christie – Scotia Capital: The mill had been operating since June 24th, right?

Peter Jones

Management

No. We're obviously going through it, but we've only been operating for recovery of gold since mid July. David Christie – Scotia Capital: Okay.

Mike Donnelly

Analyst

I'll say a few words about the exploration. We have an additional $9 million. And that's almost evenly split between the Greenfields portfolio and the brownfields or the near-mine. We have additional mining going into Rosebel and Mouska, and also the Essakane mine. And this is primarily a resource conversion, for the most part, at Rosebel and some exploration on the new zone at Mouska. And we just want to accelerate some of the work around Essakane. And so, that money is pretty well split evenly. And then on the Greenfield side, we want to take advantage of the dry season in the fourth quarter. And we did a lot of work in the first part of the year. And so, we have the capacity just to keep right on working through the fourth quarter on our JVs in West Africa as well as additional work at Charmagne in Suriname.

Peter Jones

Management

Maybe I can just say a few more words about Essakane. I think we said on this call last quarter that mineralization continue to the north and south of the main pit. We have also done some near-mine exploration, picking up additional material on the east planks and below the pit, and not prepared to release any numbers yet, but just say that the indications are significant increase in resource in that immediate mine area, including indication of resource to the north of the pit. And on the Greenfields area, we've got a couple of plays in Maui that – Mike's a pretty steady guy for an exploration guy. He's really excited on this. David Christie – Scotia Capital: On the Essakane extension to the north, is this the area that was already populated around the town or is this further north than that?

Peter Jones

Management

No, this is across the river.

Mike Donnelly

Analyst

Yes. It's immediately across the river. And the mine folks, as far 50,000 meters, have done pushing that mineralization envelope directly north of the design. And on the exploration side, we've picked up where they left off, and continue to pursue that same mineralization in the – in that Essakane anticline to the north. We're not out of it yet. It does plunge in that direction. But we want to pick up on that work after the rainy season. David Christie – Scotia Capital:

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Analyst

Mike Donnelly

Analyst

Where the river is now. David Christie – Scotia Capital: Okay. That's great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question is from Izuro Sanivi [ph] at Equinox Partners. Go ahead, please. Izuro Sanivi – Equinox Partners: Good morning, guys. Question on Essakane, at this point, you must have moved everybody – all the people there on site or could you give us a sense of how much that whole relocation process cost?

Peter Jones

Management

Around $44 million, $45 million.

Carol Banducci

Analyst

$4.5 million.

Peter Jones

Management

Or $4.5 million, rather. Izuro Sanivi – Equinox Partners: Okay. And is that process complete now or would you expect further work in that sense?

Peter Jones

Management

No, that's all done. People were moved in by February. Izuro Sanivi – Equinox Partners: On an ongoing basis, the social development work that you have to do, is that included in the cash – operating cash process unit? Or is that going to go into the capital side of things?

Peter Jones

Management

No, no. The ongoing thing is part of our operating cost. Izuro Sanivi – Equinox Partners: Okay. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Okay. We do have a final question from Dan Rollins at UBS Securities. Go ahead, please. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Yes, just one more question, just on what you're seeing at (inaudible) picture. Has there been any more clarity or alignment of the bureaucracy in Ecuador? I'd like to say a lot of (inaudible) a little quicker than – has it been waiting back and seeing what other people in the area are going to be doing?

Peter Jones

Management

Dan, you're really breaking up there. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Right. Just on Ecuador, has there been any more clarity on how – what's in the line with the mining code or how the bureaucracy is evolving there to encourage mining?

Peter Jones

Management

No. But I'll let Larry Phillips speak to that, and–

Larry Phillips

Analyst

Yes. Thank you, Peter. Dan, the overall framework is fairly well set in terms of the mining code and regulations. What we're working towards now is the specifics of an agreement, the mining agreement relating to our projects. And the timetable for that is somewhat in the government's hands because they want to create a model or a kind of agreement or a template in order to sit down with the key players that would certainly include ourselves with our Quimsacocha project. So we continue to lead in those discussions and move forward. We're certainly anxious to get an outcome on those mineral agreements and the timetable that our host government is putting forward. It's in the nature of the third quarter this year, certainly, before the end of the year. And once we get that clarity, it will make it easier to proceed on finalizing feasibility and knowing exactly where we can go with the project and how quickly. Dan Rollins – UBS Securities: Okay. Great.

Operator

Operator

Okay. That was our final question over the phone. I would now like to turn back the call over to Mr. Bob Tait. Go ahead, Bob.

Bob Tait

Management

Yes. Thank you. Larry, did you – was there something you wanted to add?

Larry Phillips

Analyst

Just with respect to Quimsacocha and Ecuador, we were pleased to receive our water permit, which was initiated with – we've been working with our host government closely for the last really 8 to 10 months. And that was received recently. So that is an indication of a positive step forward for the project.

Bob Tait

Management

Okay. Thank you, Larry. The only information we've had from the Web is what is realistic production and proper tons milled on the short and long run basis for Essakane. And I think Peter has really already answered that it's too early to tell.

Peter Jones

Management

Yes. Our long run is still $400 to $410.

Bob Tait

Management

Yes. So that's the end of the questions. And I want to thank you all for your participation in the call today. If you have any follow-up questions, you can reach me at 416-360-4743 or at bob_tait@iamgold.com. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for joining. That concludes the webcast.