Good afternoon, and welcome to the HubSpot's Q2 2025 Earnings Call. My name is [ Gigi, ] and I'll be your operator today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Head of Investor Relations, Chuck MacGlashing.

Thanks, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to HubSpot's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Today, we'll be discussing results announced in the press release that was issued after the market closed. With me on the call this afternoon is Yamini Rangan, our Chief Executive Officer; Dharmesh Shah, our Co-Founder and CTO; and Kate Bueker, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we start, I'd like to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement included in today's press release. During this call, we'll make statements related to our business that may be considered forward-looking within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Exchange Act of 1933 as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. All statements other than statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements, including those regarding management's expectations of future financial and operational performance and operational expenditures, expected growth, FX movement, and business outlook, including our financial guidance for the third fiscal quarter and full year 2025. Forward-looking statements reflect our views only as of today, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in today's press release and our Form 10-Q, which will be filed with the SEC this afternoon for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. During the course of today's call, we'll refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined by Regulation G. The GAAP financial measure most directly comparable to each non-GAAP financial measure used or discussed and a reconciliation of the differences between such measures can be found within our second quarter 2025 earnings press release in the Investor Relations section of our website. Now it's my pleasure to turn over the call to HubSpot's Chief Executive Officer, Yamini Rangan. Yamini?

Thank you, Chuck, and welcome, everyone. Today, I'll share our Q2 2025 results and the key trends driving our momentum. Then I'll talk about the shifts in marketing and how that's opening up a big opportunity for HubSpot and our customers. I'll close with our progress in AI and the momentum we're building. Q2 was a solid quarter for HubSpot with revenue growing 18% year-over-year in constant currency, accelerating nearly 1 point from Q1. We delivered strong operating leverage with a 17% operating margin. Total customers grew to 268,000 customers globally with over 9,700 net customer additions in the quarter. I'm pleased with our consistent execution and the momentum we're building as the customer platform of choice for scaling companies. Three themes stand out in our Q2 results: platform strength, upmarket momentum and downmarket velocity. First, our platform continues to be a major driver of our success. It's simple. New and existing customers are consolidating their go-to-market stacks on HubSpot to lower cost, get a unified view of their customers and drive AI innovation. 61% of new Pro+ customers now land with multiple hubs, up 4 points from last year. More notably, 42% of our installed base by ARR now use all 3 core hubs, marketing, sales and service, also up 4 points. This is a clear sign that our platform first approach is working. Sales Hub and Service Hub are cranking. We've innovated rapidly with AI and made it easy for customers to buy seats and grow when they see value. Sales Hub seat upgrades are up 71% year-over-year with strong adoption of AI features like deal intelligence for prioritizing deals, guided actions to recommend next steps and AI meeting assistant to streamline prep and follow up. Service Hub seat upgrades are up 110% year-over-year, fueled by growing use…

CFO & Treasurer Thanks, Yamini. Let's turn to our second quarter 2025 financial results. Q2 revenue grew 18% year-over-year in constant currency and 19% on an as-reported basis. The quarter-over-quarter increase in our revenue growth was driven by improving core business performance over the last 12 months and also benefited from the leap year headwind that impacted Q1. Subscription revenue grew 19% year-over-year, while services and other revenue increased 21% on an as-reported basis. Q2 domestic revenue grew 18% year-over-year. International revenue growth was 19% in constant currency and 21% as reported, representing 48% of total revenue. We added over 9,700 net new customers in Q2, ending the quarter with 268,000 customers growing 18% year-over- year. Average subscription revenue per customer was $11,300 in Q2, flat year-over-year in constant currency and up 1 point on an as- reported basis. We expect net additions for Q3 and Q4 to be at the high end of our 9,000 to 10,000 range and ASRPC growth in constant currency to be up about 1 point. Customer dollar retention remained in the high 80s in Q2. Net revenue retention was 103%, up roughly 1 point sequentially, primarily driven by faster seat upgrades. For the full year of 2025, we expect net revenue retention to be up a couple of points year-over-year, again due to the impact of the seats change. Calculated billings were $814 million in Q2, growing 20% year-over-year in constant currency and 26% on an as-reported basis. The strengthening of the U.S. dollar at the end of the quarter and its impact on deferred revenue resulted in an overall 6-point FX tailwind to as reported billings growth. The remainder of my comments will refer to non-GAAP measures. Q2 operating margin was 17%, flat compared to the year ago period and up 3 points…

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Samad Samana from Jefferies.

Congrats on a nice 2Q. Yamini, I wanted to pull on the thread where you were talking about maybe the changing nature of INBOUND. So it's good to hear about the traction of agents like customer and prospecting and the value they're adding for clients. But if I zoom out now that you see how customers are deploying agents, is it changing how INBOUND itself is being done? I ask because there's a big investor debate on INBOUND in an Agentic AI world. And as even humans change their workflows or starting points for search, I'd love to know how hubs, which essentially created INBOUND is pushing the agenda for this next phase shift as well.

Samad, thank you so much for that question. Yes, there are major shifts that's happening in the top of the funnel, partly because of AI, but partly because of how buyer behavior is changing. Organic search is getting disrupted. And people are clicking fewer blue links because AI overviews are providing the answers. And then the second big shift that's happening is that people are now asking questions of LLMs rather than even searching for information. So those are two big changes. And when you put that together, SEO, which is kind of what we said with INBOUND is no longer working as it once was. So we moved very early to adapt to the strategy, and I explained this in the earnings, and we have a big opportunity to help our customers navigate a lot of these changes. Let me start with what we did internally and start with a few facts. A lot has been said about HubSpot's blog traffic. And I want to share that 10% of HubSpot's leads comes from blog traffic. The other 90% comes from a diversified source of channels that are all growing. We recognized back in 2022 that overdependence on organic search was not sustainable, and we started diversifying our demand engines across multiple channels. And as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we diversified to social channels, YouTube, LinkedIn, Insta that has paid off significantly. We grew our business podcast network and that network today reaches millions of audiences via podcast every month. And our investments in newsletters, e-mail newsletters are paying off, and we're seeing the leads coming from that source grow 50% year-over-year. So all of this has helped us continue to grow demand even when blog driven traffic has declined. So the net here is that blog traffic…

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Elizabeth Porter from Morgan Stanley.

Great. I wanted to follow up on the comment about 25% of Pro+ customers adding more core seats. I was curious who are some of the types of personas that are getting access. And it may be a bit of a longer-term view, but as you expand kind of personas across the platform, how do you think about building, the opportunity to build any solutions or specific workflows for those personas that may interact with HubSpot today, but may not be that core customer.

Elizabeth, I love this question. I think you're keying into one of our biggest growth levers for the future, which is the core seat and maybe just to explain, the core seat is what customers buy to get the full value of our Smart CRM and think of the Smart CRM as the brains of our platform. This is where the unified customer record sits. This is where you get the full visibility of the customer, and it provides customers the most value. And we've been investing heavily on this layer of our platform and adding powerful capabilities for admins, powerful capabilities for extending our platform. And last year, in March 2024, we launched the core seat. That value of the core seat is resonating within our customers. I shared the stat, which is 25% of our Pro+ customers are upgrading and buying more core seats. And they're doing this for a couple of reasons because they get powerful edit capabilities, they get ability to provide more automation and that does expand our core personas. You're right to point that out in the question, the core personas that we have for sales is Sales Hub seat, for service is Service Hub seat, but then core seat expands it beyond all of those to admins, to OS, to finance folks, and that expands our opportunity. As we think about the future, we're going to add a ton of value into that core platform layer. This will have AI capabilities. It will have smart properties. And I think that we're going to be able to drive that as sustained growth going forward, pretty exciting opportunity for HubSpot.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brad Sills from Bank of America.

Wonderful. It's great to see some of the early traction with agents. I did want to ask a question about that. Is there any data that you're looking at, that can illustrate for us [Audio Gap] your engagement with those customers running agents? In other words, how often are they hitting the agent button coming back into HubSpot interactions. I know it's early, but for some of those customers that might have been on for a couple of quarters here, what are you seeing with regard to that level of engagement for those customers running agents?

I'll start with the agents, and then Dharmesh feel free to add to it. So far, we have multiple featured agents that HubSpot has built. Customer Agent and Prospecting Agent, Content Agent, those are the ones that are featured agents. And I'm really pleased with the momentum that we are seeing with all of these agents. I talked about Customer Agent, which has got 4,000 customers. We are seeing really good weekly usage and resolution rates there that are consistently above 50%, many of the Customer Agent customers are seeing 70% to 80% resolution rates. And we've seen more than 6x increase in resolution since January and surpassed over 1 million ticket deflection. Now if I step back and think about agent usage, our customers know that with agents, they can actually get help in doing work and that is a big shift. It's not just about delivering software to help people get productivity, but it's actually delivering work. And so the use cases that we are seeing traction are deflecting support tickets, setting up meetings in terms of prospecting, writing content that shows up in a variety of channels, those are all the early use cases that we're seeing traction. And I'm pretty excited about the momentum overall.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Jackson Ader from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Yamini, I'd like to follow up on the core seats. Those 25 -- the 25% of customers that have come back and purchased more core seats, I'm just curious on two things. Number one, is it -- are you putting so much featured, like are the core seats so feature-rich that you might be cannibalizing a little bit of people coming and buying full seats for Sales or Service Hub, number one? And number two, in the future or if there is a future [ state, ] where do you think you'll delineate between these are the things that we're going to build into core seats versus these are the things that we are going to live -- leave to those full seats for Sales Hub, Service Hub and the like?

Those are great questions. And I'll take the first part of the question, what goes into the persona seats and what goes into the core seats. It's really clear. The use cases are super distinct. For sales, it is how do you drive deals, how do you forecast, how do you manage that entire process? That's what goes into the Sales Hub persona seat. And then similarly for service, it's everything to do with your customer success workspace or your help desk workspace. And so it's very, very distinct in terms of what goes into persona seats. Let me take your direct question on are we cannibalizing core seats? We don't think so. We've always had this approach for pricing where we add a lot of value and then we monetize value. And I think the core seat value is resonating, and we plan to continue to add value there. The second part of the question you asked is what goes into core seat and what maybe gets into AI and so on. And here's our early thinking on it. Everything that goes into the daily flow, like a personal AI use case. So if it's a Copilot, it's going to belong to that core seat. Anything that is in the daily flow of work that helps someone in the go-to-market organization do better work, that will be either in the persona seat or in the core seat. If AI is actually doing work for you as in the case of Customer Agent resolving a support ticket or a Prospecting Agent setting up a meeting, that will belong in agents and will be monetized through credits. And so to step back, core seat is a platform opportunity. Persona seats are functional opportunities and AI credits will help us monetize the work that we get done. And all of that provides durable ways for us to grow.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Mark Murphy from JPMorgan.

Kate, when we look at the billings growth of 20% constant currency and if that is outpacing revenue growth by a couple of points. Do you think it's fair to conclude that the [ worm ] has turned here? In other words, the leading indicators or your net new bookings are outperforming the lagging indicator of revenue. I'm just wondering if you think it's fair to consider that, that equation maybe has inverted a little from where it was 4 to 6 quarters ago.

CFO & Treasurer Yes. Mark, thanks for the question. I'm not sure that I know this [ worm ] analogy, but maybe I'll talk a little bit about our constant currency billings growth of 20%. We were actually -- we're pleased with the strength in the billings growth. You are right that billings tends to lead when the business is showing positive momentum. But I would remind you that we called out strength in upmarket in Q2 specifically, larger deals, more multi-hub deals. And these deals tend to have higher billing terms. So longer months upfront, which means an extension of duration. And this helps create a bit of a gap -- a positive gap for constant currency billings growth relative to constant currency revenue growth. If you just think about kind of the next couple of quarters anyway, our expectation is that the revenue and billings growth will track each other, but we will still see this small benefit from duration over the next couple of quarters.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia from William Blair.

William Blair & Company L.L.C., Research Division Perfect. Yamini, I had one for you going back to Agentic AI. I think Brad maybe touched on this a little bit, but I want to follow up. It seems like you're getting great adoption, right, in terms of the pure number of customers that are adopting HubSpot agents. I'm curious where you are in terms of consumption in the consumption model for your Agentic capabilities? Are customers kind of still burning through their initial credits? Are you seeing them kind of come back to the [ well, ] buy more credits? Where are we in that journey? Or should we expect that to be more of a 2026 plus dynamic?

Yes. Thank you, Arjun, for the question. Look, we have had a clear and consistent philosophy when it comes to monetization, which is we focus on value before monetizing. And the signal that we very specifically look for in terms of monetizing is predictable value for customers and that is exactly what we are seeing with Customer Agent. We're seeing predictable value, really good resolutions and good adoption by customers, and that's why we added it to our credit- based pricing model. And you can assume that we will take a similar approach as the rest of the agents come into GA and continue to deliver value. So very excited about the progress that we are making in agent adoption and delivering value. Now specifically on credits, we launched credit at INBOUND last year and added Customer Agent to credit in June. And it's rolling into our installed base of Customer Agent customers this week. So it's super early, and there's not that much in terms of very clear monetization patterns that we can say, but we feel very confident that the usage and value that we are delivering translates into monetization. So overall, very happy with the progress we're making. It will have impact in 2026, but all of the leading indicators are very positive.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Michael Turrin from Wells Fargo Securities.

Great. And hitting the search topic head on in the prepared remarks. It also stands out you're one of the few in software calling out growth contribution from seats and a few different flavors with the new model. So I was just wondering if you could expand on whether you're finding the more patient monetization strategy, you've taken there a competitive advantage in this environment. And then just moving forward, you've touched on it with a few of the answers, but just how you're thinking about AI and the puts and takes of monetizing some of the value you're delivering there early versus waiting and bring some of the durable growth like you've done with the seat model here.

Yes. Definitely a lot of puts and takes there in terms of it. And look, we are very disciplined when it comes to pricing and monetization, and it does pay off. We really focus on delivering value before monetizing. And you mentioned the seats growth. We have seen it consistently. We have seen it in core seats. We're seeing it in Sales Hub seat upgrades. We're seeing it in Service Hub seat upgrades. And it comes down to how our philosophy is always focused on value. Last year, you know that we lowered the entry price, and we removed the friction of customers upgrading to Pro on Service Hub and Sales Hub seats. And the rationale for us doing that was to make it super easy for customers to buy and easy for customers to upgrade with HubSpot. And that is exactly what is playing through, and we see it in all of the upgrade motions that you talked about. Now in terms of the puts and takes, in terms of the pricing strategy, our pricing strategy is hybrid. We will have seats that monetizes the core value that we deliver for all of the personas that we support, and we have credits that will help us monetize the value that is not tied to seats. And the combination of these two, we think, is going to be really useful as the AI kind of adoption wave continues. Now everybody talks about P times Q, and they talk about quantity going down. But the more important part of it is the quantity goes down only when the value goes up, and we have a very clear mechanism to monetize that value. So overall, feel very good in terms of the approach that we have taken. Patience pays off, and it is paying off for us.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brent Bracelin from Piper Sandler.

Yami, I think we could spend the next 45 minutes talking about core seat. It seems super important. I'm sure we'll touch about more on that at the event here next month. But Kate, I wanted to go back to the quarter. The Americas growth accelerated by 1 point. Even if I back out FX, it looks like Q2 was the highest dollar sequential increase in revenue that we've ever seen. It looks like it's the highest percent sequential increase in over a year. So as we just think about the fundamental drivers here of the upside in the quarter, was there any sort of onetime anomalies that we should think about outside of FX? Or is that just broad-based strength that you're seeing in the business driving that acceleration in Americas and again, pretty strong sequential increase in overall revenue.

CFO & Treasurer Yes. Thank you so much for the question, and I appreciate your positive commentary on the performance in the quarter. We were happy with the performance in Q2. It came in largely as we expected. The sequential growth was nice. We beat by $21 million, had a little bit of help there from FX, probably another -- probably $5 million of the $21 million, but we had a nice solid beat based on core business performance. Look, I think that what you should hear from us in sort of the performance in Q2 and how we set our guidance for the full year is a few things. One is the business is performing well. Yamini mentioned the strength that we're seeing upmarket, our continued velocity downmarket, our overall traction and platform consolidation, like this is driving nice business momentum. And we saw revenue growth and constant currency improve Q1 to Q2. The team is executing well. We had a strong execution through the first half of the year, even though the external environment does remain a bit choppy. And then you're right, we saw some favorability in FX. Between Q1 and Q2, the dollar has weakened. It's a tailwind for us and we included an additional $20 million of FX tailwind in the back half of the year in the guidance that we put forward.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke from Citi.

Kate, on the improved outlook for new customer adds and then I believe also ASRPC for the back half. Could you just unpack the key drivers of that? I mean it sounds like a lot of great momentum, as Yamini was alluding to in terms of the non-blog, traffic sources. But is this simply a macro -- slightly better macro view? Or are you seeing kind of some incremental, kind of organic improvements in lead generation just given the diversified channel approach you're taking?

CFO & Treasurer Yes. I mean I guess I wouldn't overreact to quarter-over-quarter changes to net additions, like we see that move from one quarter to the next. We are happy to see net adds come in above our 9,000 expectation for Q2. We saw nice performance across both the starter tier and also the professional and enterprise tiers. In starter, what we saw was like a nice uplift in the free to starter conversion rate. And we saw some positive impact from an annual pricing promotion that we put in place at the beginning of June. On the professional and enterprise side, it's just really consistent momentum quarter-over-quarter. And so like our expectation here over the next couple of quarters is that we continue to be in that 9,000 to 10,000 range at the top end of that range. And then ASRPC expectations is up roughly 1 point in constant currency in Q3 and Q4.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Keith Bachman from BMO.

I'd like to invite Dharmesh on if he's available. And the question is, you've seen a number of trends in your technology career, and there is a lot of cross-currents associated, in particular with the Marketing Hub. And as you think about what the Marketing Hub is today, HubSpot is adding Agentic capabilities, whether part of that solution as an additional add-on. But what does the solution look like in 2, 3 years that customers are buying? Is it still through the Marketing Hub? Or are you buying agents that are supported by it? I'm just trying to understand how you think the actual advent of Agentic technology is going to change the construct of what a Marketing Hub is? And then secondly is, how do you think the -- and maybe this is for Kate or Yamini, but how do you think the evolution of what customers are paying for may evolve? I know there's been a lot of talk about seats today, which is candidly great to see or here rather. But how does that evolve? In other words, do you think consumption grows over time as a percent of your revenue?

Yes. I'll start out. Thanks for the question. In terms of things we're most excited about, we are excited about this kind of emerging new operating system. This is the AI operating system that's happening now. And so you saw us earlier this year release these connectors for both ChatGPT and Claude. And the idea behind these connectors is that in this kind of new age, users are going to be spending some time in these kind of frontier AI applications. And the reason we're excited is that now this gives us another point of leverage, which is how can we use the platform that we have and deliver more user and customer value. And as people spend more time there, we think we can take what we've done in the past and say, "Oh, add APIs." We'll add ways for customers to get benefit from being on the HubSpot customer platform. With this kind of new Agentic world, we're going to see more and more use cases emerge on the frontier apps, and we can build these connectors to kind of create more value for our customers. I'll give you an example. If you're sitting inside ChatGPT, which, by the way, now has 700 million weekly active users, right, lots and lots of usage there, someone could type in and say, "Oh, what was my best performing geo in Europe last quarter." And I want to send them an e-mail, right? So now it goes through the connector because ChatGPT knows that there's a native connector for HubSpot. The data comes back from HubSpot that says, here were your best performing geos. Now these are approved, the e-mail being sent. So the interaction is happening in ChatGPT, the action to be able to take on that insight that just came back happens inside of HubSpot. Now this is a very novel use case because now ChatGPT knows about the world, right? It knows about the web, everything that's on the Internet and HubSpot knows about your customers. And we can bring all those three things together to say, "Oh, I want to bring this data back from HubSpot, intersect it with what we know of the world and then take this action back within the customer platform and actually do things." I'm really excited about this new operating system, and we're sort of very kind of early to this market. And we believe in this kind of open platform that says, "Okay, well, we want to kind of pipe those insights and that data through and the action continues to happen in HubSpot." So that's what I'm most excited about.

And I think, Keith, there's also a lot of excitement in terms of what we can do within Marketing Hub to help our customers just adapt and navigate to all of the changes. And one thing I want to make very clear, search is getting disrupted, which means SEO is not as effective as it is before. But here's the key. Content matters even more in the new world. The content needs to actually show up in social. It needs to show up in podcast and newsletters. It needs to show up in LLM answers. And that is exactly what Marketing Hub and Content Hub will do. You asked a specific question, how does this all look like? I think Marketing Hub and Content Hub, we have a huge opportunity to really transform how this content shows up for our customers, and that's exactly what we're building. And content agent helps marketers generate high-quality content. The work that we've been doing to innovate on Content Hub, which is content remix, podcast remix. What it does is actually helps our customers diversify because SEO is one piece of the broader marketing strategy we support and what we really support with is how we power our customers' ability to diversify channels across e- mail, ads, social, journey analytics and so on. And so I think that we're pretty excited about the broader opportunity to help our customers with marketing. And as we do that and as we evolve our pricing strategy, we'll have a balance of seats and credits where we provide value in this seat to help our customers get productivity, seats will grow, where we do the work for customers like Customer Agent, credits will go. And I think that opens up a lot of opportunity for us.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Alex Zukin from Wolfe Research.

You guys, both Yamini and Dharmesh have given such great thoughtful answers to these kind of higher altitude questions. Maybe kind of in a similar vein, Yamini, are you -- given the disruption happening in and around marketing, are you seeing customers pause and evaluate and sales cycles either take longer or budgetary decisions be a little bit more interspersed? Or are you actually seeing this a call to action where, to your point, content is more important than ever. You're seeing more engagement and time in app around putting -- broadening the surface area of where people are marketing. And Dharmesh, for you, if the UX layer, if the OS is now the LLM to some extent in however many years that reality happens. As you move upmarket, it feels like the monetization path with some of your competitors is to monetize data access, right, or monetize actions. When you think about monetizing not at the UX layer, but at this process layer, how does that change vis-a-vis your competitors? And how do you see that evolving?

Alex, you just sneaked in a multiple part question there. But I will take the first part, which is on Marketing Hub and what we're seeing. Look, there's a lot shifting within marketing and marketers are not pausing to evaluate. They're really focused on driving growth, driving leads and diversifying their sources, and that is what we see. I talk to CMOs all the time, and we talk about what is working today, what is not working. They're looking to HubSpot because they trust HubSpot. We've brought playbooks together. We've brought product together that can help them execute on the playbook, and we have an ecosystem of partners that we have activated to help them. And so they're coming to us, and it's actually causing a new [ CTA ] within marketing teams to evaluate their playbooks and reimagine what they need to do in the world beyond search. So that's why I think it's a big opportunity. And I can't wait to share much more about this vision at INBOUND next month. And Dharmesh, I'll...

Yes. One thing I'd like to add, I'm going to add on to the marketing since we've talked a lot about marketing and INBOUND kind of intersecting with agents. One of the new things we've learned recently, I'll kind of catch you guys up. So we launched a product called Agent.ai at INBOUND last year. We had 47,000 users at that time. We just crossed the 2 million user mark. But one thing that was kind of surprising was this kind of emerging use case that was unexpected, which is people using agents as a lead magnet. So think of it agents as a form of content where before you might have said, "Oh, I'm going to create this research PDF or I'm going to create this Excel spreadsheet that I'm going to give away in exchange for someone's e-mail address." Now what we see customers doing is creating agents, taking their domain expertise or whatever is embodying it inside of an agent and using it as a lead magnet and using Agent.ai as a platform to do that. Now the really cool thing is that now you can take that kind of domain expertise that you had and drive kind of value for customers. So it's a new form of INBOUND, a new form of content that's very, very Agentic, and it's exciting. Now -- and the cool feature in Agent.ai is if you're using this lead magnet feature and you're a HubSpot customer, which you would need to be, those leads that you generate on Agent.ai go into your HubSpot account. So there's this nice flywheel effect that's happening there that I'm super excited about. I know that's not the question you asked, but that's the question I wanted to answer. So here we are.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Gabriela Borges from Goldman Sachs.

This one is for Dharmesh as well. Dharmesh, I'd love your perspective from a frontier model standpoint. As we see frontier models add more agents and Agentic applications to their platform layer, how do you think about that being a source of competition longer term? And how important is the domain experience and the workflow experience that you have at HubSpot in that context?

Yes. I think a lot of the -- and what we're seeing now, and I think we're going to continue to see for a while is the agent development that's happening within the frontier model is going to be one of two things. They're going to be a very horizontal consumer-facing Agentic capability, right? That says, "Oh, we're going to build something for a calendaring or something that's kind of very broad- based versus kind of vertical B2B focused things." And the other thing they're doing is kind of extending their platforms to allow third parties like HubSpot to be able to build more Agentic capabilities with better reasoning models, better tooling and tool calling. So those are the things that are happening. In terms of the value of the domain expertise, within -- and I'm biased here, but within industries like CRM and ERP and others, there's just so much embodied in. It's not just the data and the data model and things that we're passing back to the LLM. It's, in our case, 19 years' worth of domain expertise that's embodied in millions of lines of code that capture what a salesperson does all day and what a service rep might do all day. And I think that is going to be hard and sort of messy for frontier models to try and they have bigger fish to fry in my mind. They're going after the kind of trillion dollar opportunities, not the kind of individual vertical opportunities one at a time, but that's my thesis.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brett Huff from Stephens Inc.

Congrats on a nice quarter. Mine is a little bit higher-level question. Given all the changes going on in AI moving upmarket, new products, et cetera, can you just remind us if there's been a reshuffle in sort of the stack rank of where you see growth coming first, most, biggest, sort of however you want to sort of rank them for us, which ones you're going after first, which ones might be bigger, just to help reframe the debate or reframe sort of the growth pie as you guys think about it going forward with all the dynamics going on.

Absolutely. That's a very good question. Look, we have a current playbook that is working, and you can see it from the consistency of delivery of results from those. This is platform consolidation, moving upmarket and delivering compelling customer value in all of the seats. And that playbook is working. You see it in strong customer dollar retention. You see it in upgrade momentum and the large deal momentum. Those existing growth levers will continue going in the forward. In addition to that, there are a few durable growth drivers. We've always been able to thoughtfully and intentionally add reps in very specific segments and geographies, and we see continuing to do that. The other lever, which we've talked about a lot in this call and previous calls, is the pricing change that we drove last year. What we did was to lower seat minimums, remove the friction and provide us an opportunity for growth. That's obviously playing through this year, but we'll continue to see that roll through our installed base into next year. That will be a durable lever for growth. And then finally, AI. This is a multiyear tailwind. We are taking a super patient and very strategic approach to AI, which is we are embedding it into the platform and delivering work through agents, and we have the ability to monetize both of those, but first by focusing on the value. So to net it out, current playbook is working. We'll continue to drive value through the current playbook. We have rep-driven growth. We have pricing changes that adds to durable lever and AI, which is a multiyear tailwind. We feel very confident about that.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Taylor McGinnis from UBS.

So NRR improved 1 point in the quarter, and I know you've talked a lot about seeing some nice seat expansion activity. So is that largely just a function of the pricing model change? Or are you seeing any unlock or improvement in other expansion motion areas? And then I know the guide implies an improvement as we move throughout the year, but maybe you could just give a little bit of more color in terms of where you think that could go? And what would need to happen to get well into the 105, 110 type range again?

CFO & Treasurer Yes. Thanks, Taylor, for the question. It was nice to see the sequential improvement in net revenue retention. As we talked about in the prepared remarks, it was about 1 point increase quarter-over-quarter. When you think about the drivers of the net revenue retention, like they're very much the same as the ones that we've been talking about for a number of quarters now. Like it starts, again, with the healthy customer dollar retention at the foundation. It's been really stable in the high 80s now for a number of years. You're right, the primary reason for the expansion of net revenue retention is the strong seat upgrade performance. That is a combination of the core seat adoption that Yamini is talking about as well as increased rates of seat upgrades across sales and service. Most of that, I would say all of that is a result of the seats model pricing change that we rolled out last year. Outside of seats, we continue to see challenges in the other net upgrade motions. Customers remain very value focused, and we have not seen that unlock. That said, we do still expect that net revenue retention is going to be up a couple of points year-over-year with, call it, flat into Q3 and then a nice step-up in Q4 as we start to see more of the migrated customers come up for renewal. So again, largely driven by the seat expansion motions and the pricing change.

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Brian Peterson from Raymond James.

Congrats on a really strong quarter. Yamini, I wanted to follow up on your answer to efforts to diversify the sources at the top of the funnel. I'm curious, have you seen any material changes into how you're bringing in leads specifically for enterprise? And I'm also curious, how has your channel influence business trended this year versus your expectations? And what is their role as AI becomes much more important?

Yes. Great question. Look, I think on the diversification of our lead sources, that has been a play that has been multiple years in the making, and it's working, and it's working across our segments. We have our small business, mid-market and corporate segments. It's working across all of those segments. And so we're going to continue on that diversification strategy, and we're going to educate our customers to continue on that diversification strategy. Now specifically about our partner channel, partners are influencing about 40% of our ARR, and that has continued. They are co- selling as well as sourcing. And I mentioned this in the earnings prepared remarks that we're seeing partners source more, and they are also co-selling with our reps more, and they are a good way for us to deliver higher win rates, higher ASP deals within the upmarket. And more importantly, when they deliver the value, customers stay longer with us and they buy more into the future. So partner channel continues to be a good moat for HubSpot and has expanded into co-selling and sourcing. Thank you for that question.

Thank you. This concludes the HubSpot Q2 2025 Earnings Call. Thank you to everyone who was able to join us today. You may now disconnect your lines.