Good afternoon and welcome to the HubSpot Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. My name is Liz and I will be your operator today. At this time, all participants lines are in a listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for question-and-answer after the management's prepared remarks. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Senior Director of Investor Relations, Ryan Burkart. Please go ahead.

Thanks, operator. Good afternoon and welcome to HubSpot’s third quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Today, we’ll be discussing the results announced in the press release that was issued after the market closed. With me on the call this afternoon is Yamini Rangan, our Chief Executive Officer; Dharmesh Shah, our Co-Founder and CTO; and Kate Bueker, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we start, I'd like to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement included in today's press release. During this call, we'll make statements related to our business that may be considered forward-looking within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Exchange Act of 1933 as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. All statements other than statements of historical fact are forward-looking statements, including those regarding management's expectations of future financial and operational performance and operational expenditures, expected growth FX movement and business outlook, including our financial guidance for the third fiscal quarter and full year 2024. Forward-looking statements reflect our views only as of today, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in today's press release and our Form 10-Q which will be filed with the SEC this afternoon for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. During the course of today's call, we'll refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined by Regulation G. The GAAP financial measure most directly comparable to each non-GAAP financial measure used or discussed and a reconciliation of the differences between such measures can be found within our second quarter of fiscal year 2024 earnings press release in the Investor Relations section of our website. Now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to HubSpot's Chief Executive Officer, Yamini Rangan. Yamini?

Thank you Ryan and welcome everyone to the call. I'll start by discussing our Q3 2024 results and the key trends driving our momentum. Then I'll give an update on the product launches at Inbound and the feedback from our customers. I'll wrap by highlighting how we are setting ourselves apart as a leading customer platform for scaling companies. Let's dive in. Q3 was another strong quarter for HubSpot, with revenue growing 20% year-over-year in constant currency. We delivered another quarter of significant operating margin growth with over 200 basis points of margin expansion year-over-year, driving our operating margin to 19%. Total customers grew to 238,000 customers globally, driven by 10,000 net customer additions in the quarter. I am thrilled to see customers continuing to consolidate on HubSpot as their customer platform, driven by our focus on customers and our pace of product innovation. In the upmarket segment, we continue to see strong momentum in large deals and Multi Hub Wins trends that have remained consistent throughout this year. Two main factors are driving larger deals. First, our product market fit has improved significantly in upmarket and second, our platform's ease of use and ability to deliver quick results resonate with scaling companies. Discerning upmarket buyers want lower costs, high value and great adoption in a matter of weeks. We deliver on all of these, making HubSpot an easy choice for them. Multi Hub Wins are driven by customers looking to consolidate their tech stack, another level of innovation in our hubs like Content Hub and service hub. In Q3, more than 50% of our new business in Pro plus tiers came from customers using three or more hubs. Additionally, over 40% of our install base of customers now use all three core marketing, sales and service, highlighting the value…

Thanks Yamini. Let's turn to our third quarter 2024 financial results. Q3 revenue grew 20% year-over-year in both constant currency and on an as reported basis. Subscription revenue grew 20% year-over-year while services and other revenue increased 28% on an as reported basis. Q3 domestic revenue grew 20% year-over-year. International revenue growth was 21% in constant currency and 20% as reported, now representing 47% of total revenue. We added over 10,000 net new customers in Q3, ending the quarter with a total of 238,000 customers growing 23% year-over-year. Average subscription revenue per customer was $11,200, down 2% year-over-year in both constant currency and on an as reported basis. We saw a healthy balance of low-end customer additions across starter and professional tiers this quarter driven by the seats pricing model change. As a result, we continue to see a headwind to ASR PC from more customers getting started at lower initial price points. More multi hub and larger deals are offsetting these lower ASPs and ASR PC growth excluding our starter tier is in the mid-single digits. We continue to see healthy customer dollar retention rates in the high 80s in Q3. Net revenue retention held flat sequentially driven by continued improvements in downgrades and early positive momentum in seed upgrades offset by continued headwinds across our other upgrade motions. Calculated billings were $681 million in Q3, growing 20% year-over-year in constant currency and 24% on an AS reported basis. The significant weakening of the US dollar at the end of the quarter and its impact on deferred revenue resulted in an overall 4-point FX tailwind to as reported billings growth. The remainder of my comments will refer to non-GAAP measures. Q3 operating margin was 19% up two points compared to the year ago period. This reflects our continued progress…

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] First question today is from Mark Murphy at JPMorgan.

Thank you so much and congratulations to all the HubSpotters on the phenomenal results. Kate, I wanted to ask you how might you describe the investment HubSpot is making into AI. Just do you have any model training expenses that are feathering into the R&D line? That seems like it's up-ticking as a percentage of revenue. And might you have some inference flowing through the cost of goods sold as you commercialize the models or just anything that would help us understand the amount of R&D going into your AI initiatives? And then for Yamini, are you seeing that daily usage or engagement pick up or develop faster with the Breeze products that are in beta right now?

Thanks, Mark, for the question. Maybe I'll start and then I'll hand it over to Yamini for the usage part of the question. AI is a top priority investment area for us, and you do see some impact although still modest on our cost of goods sold from the AI investments, I think you would if you looked back in time, recognize our philosophy for a long time has been to try to invest in an outsized way in our R&D organization sothat we can continue to drive the innovation flywheel that will fuel long-term growth for us. And sowe have continued to do that over the last few years. And one of the big areas of investment certainly is AI.

Yes. And Mark, thank you again for that question. I will double down on what Kate said. Innovation and AI first innovation, in particular, our top priority for the company and will continue to be the top priority going forward. We are a platform company, and we will be the app and agent platform to help our customers innovate and grow. And our overall strategy to embed AI into every hub and across the entire platform is really working. I'm very pleased with the progress that we are making. I look at our AI strategy, and I'm looking at three indicators. The first is, if AI awareness within our customer base and prospect base increasing Second, are we beginning to see repeat usage. And third is that driving consistent value. And I'm pleased that we're making progress on all three. As I just shared, when we launched Breeze at inbound, we did it soit can be consistent. It can be easy. Our customers can recognize features and begin to adopt it. we saw AI awareness go up by 13% in just one quarter. And soI think the brief branding as well as how customers are getting aware of the features within the product is working. And if I look at our enterprise and Pro customers in particular, I'm really pleased with the repeat usage and that every day, every week, every couple of weeks, and we're beginning to see repeat usage trend in the right direction. And then in terms of overall value, I would continue to highlight that content use cases, service use cases and even sales guided selling use cases are beginning to add consistent value. So overall, really pleased with the AI momentum, really pleased with what we are seeing in terms of usage and value post inbound.

Our next question comes from Rishi Jaluria at RBC Capital Markets.

Wonderful. Thanks so much for taking my question and I should see a continued momentum in the business. Maybe I want to continue by talking about some of the investments in AI, clearly seeing some early traction with Breeze, and really exciting to see that. When we think about maybe some of your offerings around agent anagenic AI, many can you maybe help us consider how is the future of how customers interact with and work with HubSpot in both a copilot and a genetic AI world going to look like? And ultimately, if you can help those customers become meaningfully more successful and more productive at that, how do you think that maybe impacts your own pricing power or pricing model with those customers?

Yes, multiple questions there. I'm going to get started and then Dharmesh, who lives brief agent can also share his thoughts. I'd say that living in an exciting world. There is just a transformative technology that's happening. CoPilots. We just launched a CoPilot, which helps any front office, marketeer, sales force and service person, n do better work. And agents work for them, right, whether it is in content our customers. So at INBOUND, we launched Bolt. CoPilot that we launched is seeing very good and very early traction with all of our customers because it's just easy, it just allows them to tap into HubSpot at a very broad level, use natural language to be able to ask questions, summarize CRM object summarize insights, and that's gaining traction. And we launched four agents content prospecting, customer and social and now they're all kind of moving into beta, and beginning to see really consistent results. So we think the future is all about CoPilots and agents driving value with structured and unstructured data within the customer platform. I'll say one quick thing about the pricing question that you asked. We will stay very, very consistent with our pricing philosophy. Add value before we think about monetizing value that has really worked for us throughout our history. We are very, very focused on driving that value, and we'll continue to do that. In terms of agents, when agents begin to deliver consistent value, we'll likely have different axes for agents, whether it is credit or tokens or something that is consumption based. But right now, we're really focused on delivering value. Dharmesh?

Yes. A couple of points to add to that would be. One is we're taking a very kind of as we do with all things, very platform-based approach to agents as well, which is we're building the underlying platform to allow our customers and partners to build these agent applications that leverage our unified data store. We have all the information on singular cohesive place. And what we found is that, that kind of data access makes lots of very interesting agent use case is possible. The thing that's happening now in terms of like in the moment is that the other part of our kind of agent approach is that we have an open model in terms of which large language models and which AI tool sets we use. And what this allows us to do is to say, as the industry is evolving, there is no one model to rule them all. We can move across models based on what the best tool is for a given use case, a differentiated from how others are approaching it. And just recently, we saw OpenAI launched the 01 model. which has much better reasoning as they break through in terms of large language models, and we're able to capitalize on those kinds of innovations that are happening in the kind of AI ecosystem as a result of this kind of open approach to large language models and the AI tools.

Our next question comes from Samad Samana with Jefferies.

Hi, good evening. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll echo the congrats from peers. Kate, I want to talk about the smallest line item that you guys report, which is the professional services revenue. And I know it's small today, but you're seeing the gross product dollars there inflect, and I suspect it's because payments is a high-margin business. I'm curious how you're -- what's driving the inflection, if that's the case? And how do you see cash flow maybe strategically fitting into that? Could you maybe double-click on that and how we think about a revenue model for that company?

Yes. Thanks, Samad, for the question. Maybe I'll just start with a reminder that you're right in -- you're exactly right in how you asked the question, which is that services and other revenue line item is actually very small as a percentage of our overall revenue at 2%. The large part of that number continues to be services. And we primarily think about services as an enabler of our software business. As you know, we have been increasingly leaning in with partners to provide customer onboarding and ongoing customer services. And so the services portion of that revenue line item has been a headwind over the last couple of years. On the positive side, we have seen year-over-year growth that is largely being driven by the momentum we're seeing on the Commerce business, right? So we talked about the growth that we are seeing in monthly transacting customers and GMV at INBOUND. And that is what's driving that in the positive direction. Now in terms of margin, it is a combination of things. We have -- we have done a lot of work to drive efficiencies within our support and services organizations, and that is the primary needle mover for the margins of that line item.

And then Samad, I think you also asked about our recent acquisition of Cash Flow. I'm really excited about this. because it accelerates the vision that we have for our customer platform, not just making it easy for sellers to sell, which is what our core platform does, but also making it easy for buyers to buy. And in order to do that, you've got to have both customer data and transaction data in one unified system, and that is exactly what we can do with Cash Flow. And as Kate just mentioned, we've had a year of pretty strong momentum with CommerceHub. You can see that because of the product innovation that we have driven, helping our customers bring their own payment processors and providing flexibility for invoicing and billing. But at the same time, when we have asked our customers what more can we be doing, they ask us for more sophisticated subscription management capabilities, more sophisticated CPQ functionality. I'd say like those two are the most frequently asked request from our customers in terms of where they want to see us go. And cash flow is doing exactly that. Now when we started talking to Sarika and Brian, who are the founders of cash flow, there are just have the same DNA as us. They've been thinking about this problem. They want to make it easy. In fact, half of the customers they currently have are HubSpot customers. So they normally understand the need of our customers, but they have been thinking about this problem for our customers. And so we're really excited to bring the whole team on board, and we're going to take the same approach like we take with all acquisitions. We'll keep it very true in terms of having a crafted product. will natively build new functionality, so we deliver a seamless experience and will accelerate our product vision.

Our next question comes from Kirk Materne with Evercore ISI.

Yes, thanks very much and I'll add my congrats. I'll add my congrats. Kate, I was wondering, as you spoke about the NRR trends this quarter, you mentioned that there were some headwinds on other upgrade motions. Is there anything more you can add there? Is it specific hubs? Or is it just sort of the macro remaining? I realize it's really consistent with what you guys have talked about. But I was just curious if there's anything either hub specific or geographic that you could call out on that?

Yes. Thanks for the question, Kirk. I would say it's much the same as the last few quarters as it relates to net revenue retention. I think the positive aspects of net revenue retention remain a really strong foundation of customer dollar retention. We see that holding very well in the high 80s. Downgrades have been stable now or stabilized for a number of quarters. And so both of those things are positive. And as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are also seeing some green shoots on the seat upgrades, largely as a result of the pricing model change. All the other upgrade motions continue to have pressure. That's addition upgrades, it's cross-sell, it's discount upgrades. It's really -- and contact, it's across the board there. So nothing specific to call out. You didn't ask the question, but I would expect that we will see largely the same in Q4.

Our next question comes from Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research.

Hey guys, I echo the congratulations on another very solid quarter. Maybe I'm going to try my best to ask a multipart question here. The impact that you're seeing from what I would characterize as kind of one of the most clear AI propositions that you talked about at inbound. Is that -- what is that doing to sales cycles? Is it making them -- is it driving more of them? Is it making them longer, but bigger? And how do we think about into the big selling quarter, Q4 last year, it was a big quarter for you guys, I would almost characterize it as a kind of a budget flush quarter. How do we think about that into this quarter? I realize not much kind of change in the macro at this point in time. But how are you thinking about that and anticipating that for Q4 and beyond?

Alex, thanks for the question. I would say that if last year, AI was a buzzword and there was a level of hesitancy on how AI needs to get adopted. This year, our customers tell us that AI is real. There's real value. There's real use cases, there's real growth opportunities. And if anything that they took away from inbound, it was that they got to get going on it. And so following inbound into the conversations in late Q3 and Q4. There's just been a lot of momentum that has been driven through our Breeze and Breeze Intelligence launches. And specifically, the approach that we have taken is to embed AI into every hub. So if you're sitting here as a customer thinking about next year's growth, Well, you want a better content marketing platform. You want better guided selling solutions. You want better service capabilities that leverage AI. And so all of those conversations are happening now. Tangibly, it's doing two things. One, it is increasing the attach rate of Content Hub Service Hub to our core hubs. And you can see this consistently through the year as our customers have really embraced content use cases. Content Hub has seen pretty significant growth and a 50% attach rate to marketing hub, and it's similar in terms of the multi-hub momentum within Service Hub. So all of those are positive going into Q4. Q4 is a big quarter. December is a big month. And we have all of the pipeline. Now it really comes down to execution, and we are laser-focused on executing.

Our next question comes from Brad Sills with Bank of America.

I wanted to ask a question around the strength you're seeing in these multi-hub wins. It really seems like a standout this quarter. And you called out content and Service Hub, in particular, is seeing traction. I would love a little bit of color is that customers that are kind of landing with a multi-hub footprint? Are you seeing more of that kind of cross-sell activity that's occurring more recently? And why now, I guess, would be the question? Why -- what is it about the products or maybe it's the environment that you're starting to see even more momentum? I know it's been strong in the past, but it sounds like it's an area where you're seeing some real uptick

That is a great question, and the answer is all of the above. And what I mean by that is we are seeing multi-hub both in terms of new customers that we are winning, and we are seeing multi-hub that is driven in the installed base as customers adopt one and go far more. And the most prevalent combinations are Marketing Hub, Sales Hub. We just land with Marketing Hub, Sales Hub and the second most prevalent multi-hub lands or Marketing Hub, Sales Hubg and Service Hub. And I think the consistent themes that we have seen here are driven by a couple of things. The first one is that our customers are consolidating. They're consolidating and they're looking at HubSpot as a platform that provides insights across their entire front office, right? That is exactly what is happening, and we've seen the spend continue throughout this year. The second is the level of innovation. And sometimes, it is not just about the strategy, it's about alignment to the strategy and executing the strategy. We've had a strategy of going from app to suite to platform. And as part of that strategy, we have really picked up the pace of innovation across not just the front end hubs like marketing and sales, but across every single hub and the level of innovation drives multi-hub. Content Hub, Service Hub, great examples of that. So the answer is the environment is more conducive for consolidation and the level of innovation that we are driving makes us that choice and is driving multi-hub momentum.

Our next question comes from Michael Turrin with Wells Fargo Securities.

Great. Some useful color on the net retention characteristics throughout the prepared remarks, just in helping us think through what could catalyze a return to that broader upgrade motion, kind of appreciate the environment currently. But just whenever that services, the team has been layering a lot of new innovation into the product portfolio. So just wondering if there are specific hubs new features, functionality, you're hearing customer interest around post inbound that could eventually, whenever we get to that point catalyze that return to upsell and appreciation for some of the advanced functionality you've been adding?

Yes. Maybe I'll take that one. And I guess what I would do, Michael, as we would call you back to some of the conversation that we had at the Analyst Day. There's some strong foundation that we see in net revenue retention. We talked -- and I've already talked about it on this call that customer dollar retention is really firm and strong in the high 80s. The higher multi-hub customer and the platform adoption that Yamini is talking about really just translates into higher usage of the product and stronger customer retention. So that's a nice tailwind for us. Downgrades continues to stabilize, as I said. And so that's also a nice tailwind. And then the change to or the move to the new seat-based pricing model should also be a tailwind as we transition the existing installed base and as more and more of our customer base gets started on the new seat-based pricing model. On the other hand, as you know, we continue to see some headwinds and pressure on the upgrade motion. We've been operating in what we would call a value conscious buying environment for a while. It is unpredictable out there if today is not another example. And so -- it's hard to say when that is going to change. But really, that is going to -- that is an ingredient required for us to really see net revenue retention expand from here.

Our next question comes from Elizabeth Porter with Morgan Stanley.

I wanted to follow up on the upgrade rate from starters. I'm hoping if you could just double click on the comment around early reads from the new pricing model potentially benefiting that pace. Understanding it's probably a small part today, but just in the future, how should we just think about the opportunity given the high volume of Star customers that have really been added over the last few years?

Yes. Thanks, Elizabeth. The upgrade rate from starting into professional has really stayed relatively stable here for a pretty long period of time. The shift to the seat-based pricing model does two things. One, it lowers the barrier of entry to get started, not only on starter but also on professional. And so what you saw this quarter was a little bit more of a balance in our new customer adds or net customer adds across professional as well as starter. And then over time, we do believe that we will see an increase in the upgrade rate, but it's still early for us to give lots of concrete data points there.

Our next question comes from Tyler Radke with Citi.

Thank you for taking the question. This quarter, it seemed like you raised the full year revenue guidance by more than you'd be. We didn't see that the last two quarters. I guess, first, was there any FX considerations we should be taking into account there? And if not, maybe just unpack kind of the drivers of the increased confidence? Was it just better visibility in terms of this pricing rollout, more stable macro view? Anything you'd just add in terms of what's driving the stronger raise relative to what we've seen in the last two quarters?

Yes. Before I walk through the math, Tyler, just a comment on the assumptions around the environment moving into Q4. I tried to share in my prepared remarks a bit of color here, but our assumption is that it's going to be very much the same environment moving into Q4. We've been operating through a year in an environment where we've seen more decision-makers evolve in deals and higher bar action. We think that's going to continue, and that's embedded in the guidance that we shared with you. But if I walk you through the specific pieces here, we beat the midpoint of our Q3 guidance by $24 million, and we're flowing that through to the full year. We're also raising the full year guidance by an additional $3 million, and that's really just a reflection of incremental FX benefits that we expect to see in Q4. So on a constant currency basis, our outlook for Q4 is unchanged to our prior guidance with a growth of 15%. And we feel, as Yamini told you earlier in the call, we feel good about our pipeline, and we're just laser-focused on executing the big quarter in Q4.

Our next question comes from Gabriela Borges with Goldman Sachs.

Yamini, I want to ask you about the competitive dynamic in the mid-market at some of your large new customer adds? And what specifically, when you have competitors who perhaps respond with more aggressive pricing concessions when they see the success you're having. What approach or what framework do you give to your sales folks to help kind of navigate that conversation, given how much focus you put on the value of the HubSpot product suite and the engagement of the customers that you do run?

Gabriela, good to hear from you. And it's a great question. I think you answered the question, which is we focus on value. I think the environment is competitive and it's always been competitive. And we don't compete on price. We compete on value. And so the playbooks, the conversations that we have with our customers all focus on the total cost of ownership. And there, we have a distinct advantage. You don't need a big consulting project with large size. You don't need 10 developers inside. You don't need a huge army of admins that are inside. And so we talk about that and there's like tangible total cost benefits there. And then we got to talk about value and very specifically in this environment and in any environment, our customers care about getting value quickly. It is fast time to value in a matter of weeks, not months, not years. And so we have tangible proof that we can drive the value in a matter of weeks. And when I talk to customers, I ask them a simple question. in the previous times that they have CRM, how many of their salespeople use CRM in a year. And if the answer is anything like 20%, 30%, which is what is typical, and we talk about how we can drive adoption because the ultimate value that they get is getting adoption to be in the high 80s and 90s, which we can consistently do. And so while the environment is competitive, we win on being easy to use. We win on being fast time to value, delivering fast time value and having a very unified crafted experience that helps our customers grow.

Our next question comes from Joshua Reilly with Needham.

With the cash flow acquisition, that gets you kind of into this, what I would characterize, somewhat competitive space for SMB subscription billing and invoicing, but it seems that I think you're going to have an edge with your platform strategy there versus competitors that are primarily point solutions. How do you kind of leverage that edge to grow that within the broader hub for Commerce Hub.

I love that question, and you're exactly right. It is a platform advantage, right? Almost everything comes down to our customers keep telling us it's not about individual products and point solutions. It's about having a unified platform with customer and transaction data, and cash flow allows us to do that. And if you look at what cash flow will enable us from creating an easy proposal, making changes to the proposal, getting the proposal signed, completing the payment and doing it in a super seamless way and getting all of that information in a seamless manner, so that the next set of customer conversations are armed with those insights. That is really our vision for commerce and it's going to help us enable that. And ultimately, we just want a single platform that's easy for sellers to sell and buyers to buy, and we're pretty excited about how we can accelerate that vision.

Our next question comes from Ken Wong with Oppenheimer.

Great. Thanks for taking my question, Kate, I wanted to maybe dive into the customer adds. I think in the past, you guys touched on 9,000 to 10,000, you did 10,000 this year, but also talked up really strong conversions and [indiscernible] tailwinds as well as relaunching the kind of starter in July. How should we think about what that pacing could look like going forward?

Yes. Ken, thanks for that one. We were actually very happy with the 10,000 customer additions we delivered in Q3. It was right in line with the range that we shared on our last call of 9,000 to 10,000. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, there was a balanced mix in those customers adds across our professional and starter additions in the quarter. We've talked about the fact that, that was largely enabled by the new seats pricing model and the elimination of seat minimums. The other thing we talked about last quarter was that we were starting to lap some very large starter cohorts from the back half of 2023. And although those cohorts were renewing at a similar rate, the nominal number of customers that were leaving the platform were higher. And we continue to see that this quarter. That said, the growth starter additions were really strong in Q3 So all of that said, I believe that at least in the near term, we should continue to look at that 9,000 to 10,000 as the right range for net adds.

Our next question comes from Parker Lane with Stifel.

Yamini, when we look at the new AI solutions that especially agency have, I'd love to hear more about the partner enablement programs, the campaigns you have in place there, and just what your overall vision is for the role that those partners will play in developing business-specific agents going forward?

Parker, I love that question. I think partners are very excited about the AI vision. And I think they have a huge role to play. I mean if you step back and look at our AI strategy, it is to embed it into every hub. It is embedded into every -- across our entire platform and to provide a platform for partners to be able to build agents on top as well. And obviously, the first set of agents are the ones that we are developing and bringing to market like the 4 that we launched at inbound. But the vision for us is to be able to allow partners to be able to build on top as well. The enablement from a partner perspective has been going strong. At inbound, we had executive briefing sessions on where AI is going, where our product road map is going, and that certainly got our partners excited. And now we have like incentivized them, motivated them and hopefully inspire them to offer a set of in our AI services and to be able to bring what we are offering to our customers. And so I feel really good in terms of the feedback from partners both inbound as well as how we are executing overall in our AI strategy.

Our next question comes from Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler.

Kate, I wanted to kind of go back to the growth algorithm here. If I look at Street expectations for next year, pretty wide variance of 12.5% to 18% growth. I get you're kind of reiterating this 15% growth rate for Q4. But that only includes a partial comp with clear, but what's the right kind of normalized growth profile puts and takes as we should think about the right growth rate for next year.

Yes. Thanks for the question. Look, it's obviously really early for us to start talking about 2025. We're in the middle of our financial planning process internally. And as always, we will provide you with guidance for 2025 when we report our results in February. So I'm not going to talk specifically about 2025, but I can talk a little bit about that growth algorithm, which we spent some time on at the Analyst Day. And over time, this is sort of a longer-term look. But over time, we think that there are a number of levers that we have to drive growth. The first is that we're still early. We have very low market share in a really big market. And so our ability to continue to drive new customer acquisition over time is strong. The second is that we are the customer platform of choice for scaling companies. And we expect that the trend that we're seeing towards bigger deals, towards more multi-hub deals is just going to continue. The third thing is, and we've talked about this before, we are transitioning our customer base onto our new seat-based pricing model. That should be a multiyear tailwind to us and should help us drive higher net revenue retention over time. And finally, we continue to innovate aggressively. In particular, we spent a lot of time talking about AI innovation, data innovation, commerce innovation. And all of these things are elements that can fuel long-term growth over time. And so I'm confident in our ability to drive durable growth over a long period of time here. All that said, like we have to execute very well in Q4 and there is a lot of uncertainty still out there in the market, and we will come back with a more clear view of 2025 in February.

Our next question comes from Brian Peterson with Raymond James.

I wanted to hit on your appetite for M&A. You've been more active there over the last year or so with a clear a bit of cash flow. How are you thinking about the balance organic versus inorganic investments? And are there some hub adjacencies that look particularly interesting to you?

That's a great question. And I think our approach to M&A has remained consistent. We take a very Apple-eque approach to M&A. And the approach is to look for great technology, great talent that can accelerate our customer platform vision. And we want to do that in a way where we do not disrupt the great customer experience that we offer. And so we've gotten very comfortable with executing this type of an M&A playbook. We look for great talent that can accelerate innovation in very specific parts of our platform. You mentioned Clear [indiscernible] Cash Flow. These are all examples of that. We look for great culture ads that can come and build something incredible. We want to natively build everything into HubSpot, so that we offer a crafted platform -- and we want to ensure that it drives financial results in the mid- to long term. That is the playbook you have seen us execute the playbook with Pricing with Clearbit. And we intend to do the same thing with cash flow. And we'll continue doing these types of acquisitions as it accelerates our vision.

Our next question comes from Nick Altmann with Scotiabank.

Awesome. Just a quick one, but I think you guys said there was 60% growth in 100-plus deals for Service Hub customers, which is pretty interesting. But can you maybe just unpack how much of that is driven by larger lands or cross-selling some of those larger customers versus perhaps a little bit of better seat expansion or stabilization in Service Hub .

Yes, that's a great question. Look, I'm very excited about the innovation that's happening in Service Hub, and I think the product team and the gold market teams have made excellent progress over the last 18 months. It's not one thing. It's the fact that we have consistently innovated in Service Hub. Last year, there was a lot of Pro features that we launched within the market. And this year, there were -- I'd say two big unlocks. The first is leveraging AI within support our customer agent. I talked a little bit about the success that we are seeing with customer agents that is helping our customers do faster self-serve with better knowledge bases and then more importantly, also helps handle some portion of the ticket, typically between 20% to 40%, and that has been great. I think the second part is that as we talk to a lot of our customers and prospects, we heard from them the need for having both support as well as customer success in one place. And therefore, earlier this year, as part of the spotlight, we launched a workspace for both customer success and for support, so it can drive retention and improvement. And then there's a steady drumbeat of offering better SLA management, better routing, more granular permission management. All of these are the ones that upmarket customers have been asking us for in service hub. And look, I think if you step back, we did this with Sales Hub. We started with a set of features. We consistently had a drumbeat of improving the product till it got to be a front door, we're doing the same thing with Service Hub. And I really feel good about where we are going with Service Hub. And therefore, we see it both in terms of new lands as well as expansion within our customer base.

We have time for one more question. This question comes from Adam Holets with BMO.

It's Keith Bachman here. I wanted to ask a question also on growth. And I'll break it into a couple of different parts. One, you talked about customer growth was 23%. Is there any growth metric you can give us on what was seat growth or a minimum was secret faster or slower than the customer growth? And the second is, how should we think about that seat growth or customer versus customer growth as we sort of tune our models for '25? And part of that is what I'm thinking about is as we get into it, ASRPC is being impacted by growth of lower-end seats. And as you anniversary the pricing model changes, does that continue on that ASRPC will grow will have a negative growth rate? Or do you anniversary it and all the innovation can flow through so that we could think about ASRPC perhaps beginning to grow next year?

Yes. Keith, I know there's sort of a lot of moving pieces in the growth equation and the ASRPC equation. I would just take a step back and reflect a little bit on the seed pricing model change that we made. And we made the change to lower the barrier to entry for customers to get started and then to upgrade and grow with HubSpot. And one of the ways is that they purchase what they need upfront and then they grow over time. And the assumption was that we would see higher net revenue retention from those customers. And I think the highlight of the seeds model change so far has been that, that sort of assumption that we had has truly played out. And so we have seen in those early cohorts that the customers who joined on the Seats model have higher upgrade rates and are upgrading and adding seats and have a higher net revenue retention. By definition, that means that it's growing faster than our sort of overall growth but we have not shared the specific data point around that.

Thank you. This concludes the HubSpot Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. Thank you to everyone who was able to join us today. You may now disconnect your lines.