Greetings, and welcome to the Horizon Technology Finance Corporation’s First Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Megan Bacon. Please go ahead.

Thank you, and welcome to the Horizon Technology Finance first quarter 2020 conference call. Representing the company today are Rob Pomeroy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jerry Michaud, President; Dan Trolio, Chief Financial Officer; and Dan Devorsetz, Chief Investment Officer. I would like to point out that the Q1 earnings press release and Form 10-Q are available on the company’s website at horizontechfinance.com. Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that during this conference call, Horizon Technology Finance will make certain forward-looking statements, including statements with regard to the future performance of the company. Words such as believes, expects, anticipates, intends or similar expressions are used to identify forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to the inherent uncertainties in predicting future results and conditions. Certain factors could cause actual results to differ on a material basis from those projected in these forward-looking statements, and some of these factors are detailed in the risk factor discussion in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company’s Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2019. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Rob Pomeroy.

Good morning. These are extraordinary times we are experiencing and our hearts go out to all of those suffering from both the coronavirus pandemic and the economic shutdown. When we last spoke to everyone in early March, COVID-19 was just beginning to reach the U.S. and we felt the gathering storm. The rapidity and depth of its onset has had a dramatic impact on all of our lives and on businesses worldwide. Everyone now has had a family member or friend touched by the disease and many families are suffering from the loss of income, but life goes on and we must carry on. So I’d like to thank you for taking time today to hear Horizon’s update. The events of the first quarter have come on as quickly and unexpectedly. We believe our efforts over the past few years to grow and diversify our portfolio and to strengthen our balance sheet have placed us in a position to navigate through these unprecedented times. Against this backdrop, we did have a productive first quarter. During the quarter, we grew the size of our debt portfolio for the eighth consecutive quarter. We generated net investment income of $0.26 per share below our distribution due to traditionally lower prepayment activity in the first quarter. Our debt investment yield was 13.2%. Our NAV as of March 31 was $11.48, down approximately 3% from year end. Most of this reduction is a result of stress on some of our portfolio companies related to the COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting shutdowns economic impact. We ended the quarter with $119 million of capacity to support our portfolio companies and to selectively make new investments. As it became clear that COVID was going to make, have a major impact on the economy, we took certain steps to…

Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everyone. First, let me say that I share Rob’s sentiment and I hope everyone remains safe and healthy. The first two months of the quarter were very active for Horizon. However, activity slowed in March as many technology and life science companies were distracted by the dislocation and complexity of the impact of COVID-19 on their business. From March through today, we have continued to carefully review new opportunities through the lens of the COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting impact of a rapidly changing economic environment. That said, we continued to observe significant activity and competition in the venture lending market for investments in high-quality companies with strong liquidity, management and investor support, as well as products and services that are relevant and in demand today. There were some segments of our market review with caution such as consumer oriented tech companies. While other segments we view with more optimism such as life science vaccine or drug development companies. These companies appear to be seeing continued demand for new drugs and vaccines and have strong balance sheets to further their development well into 2021. We are seeing some near-term dislocation in the healthcare technology market as hospitals are focused on COVID-19 and private practice physicians are essentially closed for business. But we believe demand for healthcare tech products will bounce back as the economy opens up over the next few months and pent-up demand for healthcare services re-emerges. In the quarter, we made a total of $51 million in investments to three new portfolio companies and three existing portfolio companies. This resulted in growth in our portfolio for the eighth consecutive quarter or $25 million on a net cost basis. The onboarding yields to the investments we made in the first quarter were 11.2%. We experienced…

Thanks, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. I’ll start with reviewing our balance sheet and portfolio and then I’ll provide a quick review of our first quarter 2020 results before opening up for questions. On the balance sheet as of March 31, Horizon had $52 million in available liquidity consisting of $39 million in cash and $13 million in funds available to be drawn under our existing facility. As the COVID-19 volatility impacts the market, we drew down further on our credit facility to enhance our liquidity. And as of March 31, it was $45 million outstanding under our $125 million KeyBank credit facility. As a reminder, the KeyBank facility has a LIBOR floor of 75 basis points. Our debt-to-equity ratio stood at 0.94:1 as of March 31, lower than our targeted leverage of 1.2:1 based on our cash position and the capacity on our KeyBank facility, our potential capacity was $119 million at March 31. Our asset coverage ratio for borrowed amounts as of March 31 was 206%. We continue to believe we have ample capacity at the company to navigate through the current environment and selectively invest where we see opportunities. A significant enhancement of our balance sheet and capital structure over the past couple of years has enhanced our overall position. For the first quarter of 2020, Horizon earned total investment income of $10.1 million, a 22% increase compared to $8.3 million in the prior year period. This increase was primarily due to higher interest income on investments given the larger average size of our loan portfolio. Our debt and investment portfolio grew on a net cost basis to $317 million, a 9% increase from the end of 2019. For the first quarter of 2020, we achieved onboarding yields of 11.2% compared to 12.2% achieved in the fourth…

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions and appreciate your comments and hope everyone and Horizon is doing well given the circumstances. My first question here, and I know you touched on this a little bit, but the unrealized appreciation recognized this quarter, was it more a function of actual credit deterioration in the book that you’ve seen so far or, do the markdowns incorporate more adverse economic assumptions going forward? Just trying to understand if the portfolio is somewhat reflecting future loss potential given the increased likelihood of a recession and, or if that’s going to be more layered on as you actually see it impact businesses over time?

Thanks, Tim. This is Rob. I think it’s a combination of all of those things, but there are specific companies in our portfolio that we felt due to the markets that they operate in that they were significantly or potentially significantly impacted by COVID. And so those were the ones that we moved into the two rated bucket. We have – as Jerry and Dan said, I mean, we’re in constant contact with these companies. We’re looking at the plans that they have to raise capital. And almost all of them are in process of raising capital they need it or they have capital well into 2021. So it’s – we have a few historic twos that have been having issues raising capital or operationally and those continue. But the impact of the COVID pandemic and the economic downturn heightened our interest in looking at a few of those companies and downgrading number two.

And I know you said you have six two-rated companies now, but can you just give us an idea of how many companies were downgraded this quarter?

Maybe I’ll ask Dan Devorsetz, so we are pleased to have Dan Devorsetz on our call today, our Chief Investment Officer. Dan has been a key member of our senior management team for a long time and we want to give him some exposure to everybody and welcome him aboard. Dan, do you want to just get a summarize sort of how many we had, the moves, ins and outs?

Sure. Good morning, everybody. Thanks, Rob. We have six-two’s in the portfolio this quarter. Three of them were two-rated credits in prior quarters and Q4. Sparrow decision and IgnitionOne, and then we moved three – new three companies that were three-rated credits in previous quarters to a two this quarter, Encore, Ken Esterow, and Updater, for the reasons that Rob mentioned.

Got it. Okay. And can you touch on the types of, if any of the things you’ve had to do to work with portfolio companies to provide some type of relief or forbearance, have you seen – have you had to extend loans more than usual have you had to waive fees or move more interest from cash to pick or done anything else, again to provide forbearance at this time? And how has that translated to, I guess, did that impact your debt yield all this quarter?

So it’s a long, good question with lots of parts to it, Tim. Maybe I summarized by say when we’re in these kinds of situations. And fortunately, unfortunately our management team has been through some of these crises before including 2008 or 2009. And even back in the tech boom and bust. We usually try to employ what we call the three-legged stool, which is to work with the companies and the three legs or have management be real about the severity of the outlook and make appropriate cuts in operating expenses and do everything they can to right size the business for the difficulty of the current environment. Second leg is to have investors support the companies through this process by providing additional capital or having commitments to have standby capital. And then the third is to have the lenders join those other two to help the company through the problem. The tools we use primarily are principal deferral, let’s mean of performance covenants if that’s necessary and on occasion making additional loans. We have not yet experienced having to transfer our interest payments to pick, but that would be another possible tool that we would have. So right now we’re working with – that’s what we’re doing is trying to be sure everybody is focused on raising liquidity of the companies through 2021 into that timeframe. And we are really engaged with the investors and the management team.

And I know this is a granular question and sorry if you don’t have it in front of you. But do you have an idea of how many companies you’ve had to employ some of these legs of the store here so far?

Well I think you can be sure the ones that are in the two-bucket and some of the others we’re in constant conversation with them. But the ones in the two we’re having dialogues with, we’re extending interest only periods or those kinds of things. It’s a handful right now.

Okay, got it. And then how have conversations with sponsors been? Over the past couple of months have you seen them step into support portfolio of companies so far? Would you say that the lack of fiscal aid for sponsored companies incentivizes the VC sponsors to, to be more proactive at this time?

Well I will ask Jerry to answer that one, because he is on the frontline with several of our companies. Jerry, take your phone off mute.

I am sorry.

No problem.

Yes, so it’s been a pretty vigorous and busy process relative to working with the investors. I think generally speaking they’re all very focused as we are. I don’t think any of them are – don’t understand the economic condition of their portfolio of companies, they are very focused on them. Our conversations with them have been, I would say, extremely good, for the most part, almost across the portfolio. A couple of companies – one’s would move to two. Obviously, those are taking a little bit more of their time and our time, but we are working through those. Kind of our portfolio of companies raise money in the first quarter or got signed term sheets that they will be closing shortly. So the funding is coming in. And to Rob’s point with that we’re trying to help the companies with the interest only extensions and things like that with the idea of getting everybody well into 2021. And I think we made great progress in a very, very short period of time. I would just mention to everybody we are in the second inning of a – I hope it’s only a nine-inning game. So we got a ways to go. But the VCs are definitely focused on their portfolio of companies. And what they need to do to support them, making sure the management teams are focused on to Rob’s point cutting costs and things like that. And whatever help we can provide. I did mention in the script that unlike 2008, really VC capital is at a much higher level right now than going into that period. So they have capital, they have plenty of capital. And it’s a question of which companies are they going to support? It’s not unusual in times like this that VCs start fore shrinking their portfolio companies. It’s kind of a natural thing you do with like they take a step back and say, okay, we are in a difficult time. How our portfolio of companies doing? But what we have seen, generally speaking, is a very supportive group of investors.

Okay, that’s helpful. I’ve asked a few here, so I’m going to hop back in the queue. But thanks again for taking my questions. And nice to meet you, Dan over the phone.

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Ben Zucker from Aegis Capital. Your line is now live.

Good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Can you hear me all right?

You are good, Ben.

Cool. I wanted to touch Tim did a nice job covering kind of the landscape and the portfolio. Real quickly on share repurchases, I think, you have a remaining authorization for a little over three million, which would come out to about like 2% of the company’s outstanding shares at these current prices. I saw that you extended it. Were there any discussions around potentially increasing the size of that authorization or kind of what were those conversations like?

So we did have a discussion about it, I appreciate the question, both with the senior management and with our Board. I think there is a real, strong emphasis here on liquidity and conserving cash. I have to say there were a few days when the stock price was extremely low, that it was a topic of conversation. But we did decide to extend it. We have had it in place, I think, two or three years anyway. And so we bought about 1,000,006 worth of shares since we initiated it. And it’s there, we need it and want to use it. But right now our focus is on conserving cash on the balance sheet.

That makes sense. Definitely feels like an environment where cash is king. So I guess you would have a similar response to if I were to ask about your ability or interest in maybe buying back some of the 2022 notes that seemed to be trading at like $0.90 on the dollar right now. What’s your comments around the share repurchase usage hold true for that as well?

Yes, same question, same answer. Again, very attractive at $16, I have to say. But that only lasted for a few days. But yes, you are right. Yes, I hear you.

Do you have any idea of what – how many companies or what percentage of your portfolio of companies applied for some kind of government aid or relief program?

Yes, we are aware of about a little less than half of them that are either in the process or have received the payroll protection loans. We know they usually require our consent under our loan agreements. So that’s how we become aware. And we’ve been willing to grant those consents.

Got you. If I heard you right in the press, I think, I saw in the press release and Dan’s comments that your – that the first quarter has the typical slowed down in prepayment activity. And given the market you are expecting that trend to maybe persist for the next few months. Now I guess that negatively impacts your NII yield. But that does give your portfolio more duration. So I’m just kind of curious what your thoughts are on this dynamic? And how do you guys feel about kind of the tradeoff between the outsized debt yields we’ve been seeing previously, versus adding a little bit more duration to the portfolio?

Well, I will take an initial stab at that and then ask Dan to give you a little – Trolio will give you a little bit more color. Typically, the first quarter is lighter. We actually had a good prepayment from Bridge2 Solutions. That was a very profitable exit for us, including a warranty game. But some of the fee impact was a little less than we thought. We had hoped that the HealthEdge acquisition, which happened in early April, was scheduled to happen in March. And so it got delayed in March because of the COVID uncertainty and ultimately closed a couple of weeks after the end of the quarter. Looking forward, we expect it to be modest only because refinancing is one of the sources for prepayments for us. And our outlook for that is unknown, so uncertain. So that’s why we’re being cautious about that. Dan, do you want to add some additional color to that?

No, I think, you hit it right on the head there.

Yes.

That’s helpful. You bought out the Arena interest, I think, I saw for just over $17 million. Is that – I mean, is that just kind of simple math? I mean you are bringing over $17 million of assets in that transaction onto the balance sheet that will be consolidated?

Yes, Ben, that’s basically how it works. It is a little bit more nuanced based on timing. The HealthEdge prepayment was in the JV also. So how you think about it going forward is that the dividend line income coming in will be gone, but on a portfolio basis, on the Horizon balance sheet there will be $30 million of additional investment net positive to Horizon of $15 million increase in portfolio on an income basis.

Got you. And could you just remind me, was the decision to kind of collapse that or buy them out, was that just you guys had some excess liquidity, you had these interest earning assets already there, so it was just a nice kind of immediately accretive way to deploy that capital into assets you’ve already underwritten?

Yes, that’s part of it. I think we’ve been signaling this for awhile. If the JV was originally the concept of doing it was the genesis of it was back before there was even a two to one leverage vote. So it was originally thought to be a way to increase leverage on – or off balance sheet for Horizon. The portfolio didn’t grow as fast as we had hoped it would. As a result, we didn’t meet certain requirements for minimum number of [indiscernible] and the New York Life credit facility we had there went into a rapid amortization, explained this last quarter. It then just became a good opportunity for us to take control of the assets and buy them out. And now those will be on our balance sheet. And the JV had a small arenas portion if you think about it, it was a small percentage of each of the loans because the loans in the JV were shared with Horizon. So now we control all of the assets and all of the loans. And at this uncertain time we thought it was really a key thing for us to do.

Got you, that makes sense. And then lastly, I guess this is for Dan, I just – I missed your comments, did you say – and I can look at your quantitative and qualitative disclosures and I can see that based off of where LIBORs, you guys are kind of in a nice position with your floors, but what was that – what did you say was the weighted average floor in the percentage of dead assets that are already at that level?

The weighted average floor right now on the entire portfolio is 197 basis points. And 90% of the current portfolio are their place.

Very helpful. All right guys, thanks for taking my questions. I appreciate your time this morning.

Thanks Ben.

Thanks Ben.

Thanks. [Operator Instructions] Our next question today is coming from Ryan Lynch from KBW. Your line is now live.

Hey, good morning guys. And thanks for taking my questions. I first had one regarding your guys’ liquidity position today. In the press release you guys talk about $12.8 million funds available under your existing credit facility commitments. But then I also know that you guys have capacity in your credit facility for up to $80 million of additional capacity. So can you just talk about, given the balance you construction today and the portfolio with the cash today, do you guys anticipate that you guys will be able to access that full, additional $80 million of additional capacity or is the $12.8 million what we should kind of think about as far as leverage capacity available to yourselves on your credit facility?

Yes, Ryan, this is Dan. The $12.8 million is a snapshot of what is available at the balance sheet dates on March 31. And capacity is our opportunity to borrow on the facility. And to answer your question as we forecast out to the year and as we find new investments that increases the availability with new investments that we put into the SPV. So as it’s currently constructed and where we stand today, we do have the ability to reach that $80 million capacity.

Okay. So you think as you guys put your assets into that you guys will be able to draw down the full additional $80 million. Okay.

Correct.

Okay. And then regarding your unfunded commitments, about $44 million today, can you talk about what percentage of those are based on some sort of milestone?

So I think generally the commitments, I would say that majority of them have some sort of either performance equity event revenue milestone, clinical milestone to draw, very little of that is actually open, available to draw.

Okay. And then regarding – your guys’ valuation process, you guys only had about a 1.6% markdown in your portfolio this quarter, which was well under what several other middle market BDCs have kind of pre this quarter. As I look through your portfolio, it looks like there are some select investments that had some meaningful mark downs. I would assume that they are related to some under-performance or credit issues just as we head into this very, very, uncertain and unprecedented environment. But it looks like the vast majority of your portfolio is basically marked out at a 100%. So – which was a little bit surprising. Was there not any sort of effective yield component as credit spreads wind out that you guys incorporated into pricing down even well-performing loans in your portfolio as of March 31?

That’s a really good question. It was the essence of what we spent a lot of the last three or four weeks with both internally with our outside evaluation consultants and with our board on this topic. Unlike some of the middle market almost 0% of our portfolio has market that are traded loan syndicated loan. So there is no direct indication for that. I think we have talked about this in the past that we did this on a granular basis, on a loan by loan basis. We look at the risk ratings and the things that we think are important. And then we do a discounted cash flow based on what we think the market rate for that risk would be. This tends to be much less volatile in the venture lending market has been over a long period of time because all-in yields that we are able to charge in this market really not impacted by credit rates as much as they are by what the competition has. And it stayed pretty stable between 10% and 13% for as long as I have been doing this with this a long, long time. And the reason for that is that – there is a cost to funds that the players in this market have that protect the downside of this. You can’t be profitable and venture any business if you are not charging a certain range. And on the high end the alternative is for the venture capitalist to put the money in if we charge too much. So our valuation consultants understand this and agree with this. They use risk migration factors as they look at individual transactions. And there was discussion about overall risk migration factors for the current environment. But in the end, we – our evaluations and theirs were very solidly within the range. There was some up and down variations between our marks and theirs, but they tended to be both positive and negative. And so that supported the ultimate valuations that we have in our queue.

Okay. Did you consult with a third party valuation firm for all of your investments this quarter?

So we have two outside valuation firms, Sterling and Lincoln. They look at a hundred percent of our portfolio on an annual basis. And this particular quarter we had more than usual because we wanted to look at them. All of the ones that we had issues with hadn’t been looked at in a while had meaningful movements. So they looked at probably close to 40% of our portfolio in this particular quarter alone.

Okay.

Or have looked at it as recently as March for the year end.

And then one question about IgnitionOne that loan was placed on non-accrual, you guys still have that marked at a 100% of cost. Can you just talk about what’s going on? I’m assuming that they stopped paying interest income, but not sure if there was, the outlook is high for a repayment or something like that? Just why was the non-accrual corresponding with a stable and unchanged share value marked at cost?

Yes, so this one was nonaccrual at $12.31 million, it was a balance of $12 million. We received the five – the company has basically been sold the assets of the company and its operations and through assignment for the benefit of creditors in the first quarter, middle of first quarter, we received a $5 million pay down on that loan that we used that to offset some of the interest. That’s why it was nonaccrual in the fourth quarter. Once we have that payment, what’s left is in a trust is we’re the only lender and there is only the senior secured lender and there is multiples of – there is private stock from the sale of the company that secures our outstanding balance several times our outstanding balance, our balanced of about $7.5 million. But because there are no operations and there’s no cash flow at the company, we put the loan on nonaccrual. But we are working through trying to monetize the collateral that supports our loan, could take a couple of quarters. Certainly would be helped if the environment was a little better. But we do believe that we’ll have a full recovery on that Ryan. That’s why we’ve carried it at a 100% on the remaining balance because there is a private stock in an operating company that has value three or four times now.

Okay. That makes sense. Those are all my questions. I appreciate the time today. I hope you guys all stay healthy and safe.

Thanks Ryan.

Thanks. Your next question is from Tim Hayes from B. Riley FBR. Your line is now live.

Hey guys, just a couple of quick follow-ups. Can you remind me what needs to happen for assets to fall out of the borrowing base? For lower middle market companies it could be a result of leverage multiples increasing to certain levels. But given you don’t really have – most of your companies are EBITDA negative, just wondering if it’s a function of investments moving to non-accrual or if there are any other multiple driven factors that can result in a decline in the borrowing base?

Sure, Tim. Yes, that is definitely something we are focused on right now. There is no overriding one covenant or not that we’ll kick it out. There’s certain buckets and concentration based on performance in our rating system from a four to a two, it’s still eligible to be followed against on the line. When it becomes one, or becomes insolvent, then it starts getting fixed out of the eligibility requirements. One other item that has come into play or we are looking at closely is the loan to value percentage is in the area that may cause a eligible loan becoming ineligible with some of the public companies in the way the public market has been acting, there is a little pressure there and we’re watching that closely, but no overriding one theme that we’re running into.

Okay, got it. And then I just want to make sure I’m thinking about your comments on the dividend correctly. So I’m going to paraphrase and just let me know if I’m thinking about this right or wrong way, but it sounds like you are setting the dividend at a level that you believe will be covered by NII plus the $0.38 of spillover you have right now. So it doesn’t necessarily mean you are going to cover the dividend with NII over the course of the full year, but you think that given the cushion you have with the spillover, I guess you are expecting that the dividend could be – or I guess core earnings could be $0.37 lower than NII hypothetically, but you would still be able to cover it with spillover that way. And that’s why you’re maintaining it at the level of that. Am I thinking about that correctly or if you could just provide more context around that it would be helpful?

Yes, you’ve got it pretty much, right. I mean, I think, we continue to believe that we can achieve NII that will cover the current $0.30 per share. We won’t do it every quarter. The third and fourth quarter last year we had outsized earnings and about $0.40, this quarter we were below for a combination of things that were a little miss. We need prepayment activity to achieve those large NII numbers, but over time the sort of core earnings are close to or will cover the dividend.

Okay. And does that take into account both recent rate movements any? And I guess your outlook for slower repayment activity and the potential for increased credit losses in the book, or is it a combination of all three that’s factored into this analysis, or is it kind of what you are…

Yes, I mean it’s – I am sure you will have this answer on every call you have, but it’s very, very hard to know exactly what’s going to happen tomorrow, maybe even this afternoon. So it’s very difficult to do modeling with high confidence in this environment.

Sure.

But we know how our business sort of works. The important levers or drivers for us to achieve that level of NII are to have modest level of prepayments to get at or near our leverage, real leverage, meaning not too much cash on the balance sheet for liquidity purposes, but to have an investment portfolio that’s levered one to one or better and have performing loans. So those are the drivers for us. And as we look out from today, we are comfortable maintaining our dividend distribution through September and our Board concurred based on the way we look at the future.

Got it. Okay, thanks Rob. I guess just one last one. Just on target leverage, is the range still unchanged? And do you kind of expect to be at a certain part of that range? You’ve kind of been on the lower end of that for awhile. Do you expect that to kind of reach the higher end given potential headwinds to asset marks, or are you going to attempt to stay at the lower end in anticipation of that?

So the function of being at the lower end of that was a twofold. We were able to grow our portfolio very steadily now for eight quarters, but we were also able to raise quite a bit of capital last year on the equity side, so our ability to get towards our target of 1.2 was hurt and we would say helped by the fact that we were able to raise equity at a good value that was accretive to our shareholders. We don’t actually have any expectation of raising capital in the near term. So we would expect that if we can continue to modestly grow our portfolio, as Jerry indicated, that we will move from the low end of the range towards the middle, maybe the high. We want to keep a lot of liquidity available to support our companies. That’s really critical to us is to help this portfolio get through into 2021. So that’s the offset. If we are at a 1:1 and approaching our target leverage is 1.2:1, with the spreads that we get, the yields that we charge, we can be extremely profitable.

Got it. That’s helpful. All right, well, thanks again for taking the follow-ups.

Okay.

Thank you. We reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Rob for any further closing comments.

So thank you all for joining us this morning. We appreciate your continued interest and support in Horizon. We hope you and your families continue to remain safe and healthy. And we look forward to speaking with you again soon. This will end our call.

Thank you. That does conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.