Gerald A. Michaud
Management
Sure, this is Jerry. So, first of all, over a very long period of time, over a universe of life science technology transactions, we have found no correlation between the first and second lien. In other words, in our history, we have had losses from senior lien life science transactions, where there was absolutely no other debt in the company whatsoever but there was some sort of failure of the technology, or whatever the case may be. Obviously in the case of Satcon, very different situation, public company, tech sector. So, that's not really the correlation when we're looking at a transaction. We're kind of underwriting to some very basic fundamentals on our underwritings tool, and to the extent that those exist, whether it's a first-lien or second-lien deal at the end of the day, is only a definition of the transaction. You know, total debt compared to the equity that has been raised, total debt to the enterprise value, all those things that we traditionally look at, are consistent with every transaction we underwrite, they were consistent with Satcon clearly when we underwrote the deal and in fact there was actually at one point significant improvement in Satcon during early 2011 compared to when we had underwrote it. So, we obviously look at every transaction when they get distressed like this to see if there was any things we could have looked at and takeaways, but the reality is that over very, very long track record, numerous portfolios, it's not about first-lien, second-lien, there were other events relative to specific transaction that have generally driven the company to move from a very favorable position to a more distressed position.