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Heritage Insurance Holdings, Inc. (HRTG)

Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, May 7, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Heritage Insurance Holdings First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Please note today's event is being recorded. I'll now like to turn the call over to Kirk Lusk, Chief Financial Officer for the company. Please go ahead, sir.

Kirk Lusk

Management

Good morning, and thank you for joining us today. We invite you to visit the Investors section of our website, investors.heritagepci.com, where the earnings release and our earnings call will be archived. These materials are available for replay or review at your convenience. Today's call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based upon management's current expectations and subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. In our earnings press release and our SEC filings, we detail material risks that may cause our future results to differ from our expectations. Our statements are as of today, and we have no obligation to update any forward-looking statements we may make. For a description of the forward-looking statements and the risks that could cause our results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K, earnings release, and other SEC filings. Our comments today will also include non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliations of and other information regarding these measures can be found in our press release. With me on the call today is Ernie Garateix, our Chief Executive Officer. I will now turn the call over to Ernie.

Ernie Garateix

Management

Thank you, Kirk. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am very pleased to be here this morning to discuss our first quarter results as they clearly demonstrate that Heritage is performing at a high level from both a financial and operational perspective. During the quarter, we achieved a net income of $30.5 million, or $0.99 per diluted share, which includes $31.8 million of net pre-tax losses and loss-adjustment expenses related to the California wildfires. This compares favorably to the first quarter last year, where we delivered net income of $14.2 million, or $0.47 per diluted share, with no major weather events. Q1 represents the third consecutive quarter that we have been impacted by catastrophe losses and maintained our profitability. This is a direct result of the successful implementation of our strategic initiatives over several years designed to attain rate adequacy, manage exposure, and enhance our underwriting discipline. In fact, we have achieved rate adequacy across more than 90% of the regions where we do business, which positions us to return to growing our personal lines, policies, and force. I am also proud of the support that our Heritage employees have provided to our insurance through such challenging times. We have worked diligently over the last several years to provide our insurers with quality customer service and an efficient and thorough claims handling experience, which can be seen in our response to Hurricanes Debby, Helene, and Milton, as well as the wildfires in Hawaii and California. Our dedicated staff have provided outstanding support to our policyholders as they recover from these tragic events, demonstrating our unwavering support to our customers. Looking at our first quarter results in more detail, our efforts to attain rate adequacy are having a positive effect on our financials and will continue…

Kirk Lusk

Management

Thank you, Ernie, and good morning, everyone. Starting with our financial highlights, we reported net income of $30.5 million or $0.99 per diluted share in the first quarter, which generated an annualized rate on average equity of 39%. This compares to $14.2 million or $0.47 per diluted share and a return on average equity of 25% in the prior year quarter. The increase in net income was primarily driven by an increase in net premiums earned and relatively flat expenses and loss adjustment expense, despite the pre-tax impact of $31.8 million of California wildfires. Our first quarter results continue to demonstrate the successful execution of improving our portfolio and continuing to generate positive returns. Gross premiums earned rose to $353.8 million, up 3.6% from $341.4 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting higher gross premiums written over the last 12 months from business growth and rating actions. As we ramp up on recently opened geographies and open more geographies, we expect our growth to accelerate at a managed pace. Our new business for the first quarter is slightly above plan and bodes well for our expectations for the remainder of the year. Net premiums earned increased to $200 million, up 11.5% from $179.4 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting growth in gross premiums earned, as well as a reduction in seeded premiums for the quarter. The reductions in seeded premium was driven by an $8.7 million reinstatement premium during the first quarter of 2024 for Hurricane Ian, coupled with a reduction in previously accrued reinstatement premiums of $1.4 million during the first quarter of 2025. Our net investment income for the quarter was $8.6 million, flat from the prior year quarter. This reflects our continued actions to align the investments with the yield curve while maintaining a high-quality portfolio…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Mark Hughes with Truist. You may now go ahead.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Congratulations on the quarter. Kirk, the seeded premium dollars that we can expect in Q2 and Q3, do you have some thoughts on that, some guidance?

Kirk Lusk

Management

Yes. Looking at that, going forward and that type of stuff, it's going to be up slightly for the remainder of the year. The ratio will probably go up a little bit, but not significantly for the rest of the year.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

So the ratio up a little bit, not significantly. Same on dollars, I guess?

Kirk Lusk

Management

Yes, correct.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

And then 39% ROE is pretty good stuff with the cat losses in the quarter. Ernie, how do you think rates are going to play out when we think over the next six months, year, two years, the trajectory of rates given your strong returns and good profitability? What do you think this is going to mean in terms of pricing?

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yes, I think, good question, Mark. I think one of the things is we've been working hard to be rate adequate, and we are 90% of all geography. So one of the things we'll do is keep up with that and maintain with that. I think the regulatory environment in general realizes that keeping up with rate is good for everybody involved. So, again, we'll consistently look at where we're at from a rate perspective and go to certain areas if we need more rate, we'll go ahead and do that.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Now, do you think, what's the risk that it goes the other direction? And, obviously, even if rates were down a bit, your return on profitability would still be excellent?

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yes, and we've said this. We're okay if rates go down as long as losses are going down correspondingly in those markets, right? And I think a testament to Florida last year, we filed for a 3% rate decrease, but we've also seen losses go down in Florida. So, obviously, keeping those margins in place is what's key there.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

And then in personal lines, as you're getting more active in opening up new distribution, how do you see the competition? Is there much competition out there or are others following suit?

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yes, so one comment I'll make, it's really not new distribution. It's an existing distribution that we've had and then reopening with the agents so they know us. I think one thing we've said is we're gradually opening with the agents so they understand, right, the underwriting discipline that we want to maintain. There are new companies that have come in. Obviously, that's known to everybody out there. I think most of the new companies are starting off with takeouts and then moving over to new business. But, again, we're ready to compete with folks out there as long as there's responsible competition.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

And then if you look at your underlying loss, take out the weather, take out the cat, that has continued to improve. Anything about this level that's not sustainable? Is this a pretty good benchmark? I know you get a little more weather activity in other quarters, but this level of loss, is that a reasonable baseline?

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yes. I think when you look at it, again, barring the major storms and that type of stuff, I mean, the loss trends are, I would say, are very favorable. I will tell you that the legislative impacts, I already mentioned that type of stuff, are having a favorable impact. And if the trends continue, I think that you are going to see them flat for sure. So even with a little bit of claims inflation, I think just that the trends are looking very good right now.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Karol Chmiel with Citizens. You may now go ahead.

Karol Chmiel

Analyst

And I just have a question here about the supplemental information that you provided with the TIVs, the PIFs, and the premiums. And I'm just trying to maybe have a better understanding of the Florida market in terms of PIFs going down, but PIFs are going down also in other states. TIVs basically flattish, but then the premiums are down. Is this really because of the, what you said earlier, was the rates coming down in Florida, or is this a different dynamic?

Kirk Lusk

Management

Yes, it's really the premium is the rate increases are not as substantial as they have been in the past. And so the PIF decrease, is decreasing that a little bit. Also, we are seeing a little bit of competition in the commercial markets, which is having a little bit of impact on our premiums. Again, one of the things, as Ernie mentioned, we've been closed in a lot of our territories that we've just started reopening. And so we're anticipating that that's going to start accelerating starting in the second half of this year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Paul Newsome with Piper Sandler. You may now go ahead.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Could you give us maybe a little bit more color on the competitive environment by state? My sense is that Florida is very different than East Coast, different than California. What's your view on the differences between the various states?

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yeah, well, I mean, I think everybody's heard about all the new entrants coming in to Florida, right, as you mentioned. In other areas, we're not seeing that level of new entrants coming in to the other 15 states that we do business. California, like you said, is another exception where Medicare's are more leaving the state, so there's more opportunity there as we grow our EMS book. I would say the remaining states are pretty stable. Again, with the existing agent distribution that we have there, they know us well, Narragansett Bay, Zephyr Insurance. Florida seems always to be, where there's new entrants coming in and then there's a pause, but we have seen new entrants come in in the last year.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Kind of related to, could you talk a little bit about admitted versus not admitted in some of these states as well? Clearly, we've seen at least a little bit in Florida where not admitted is there and a lot more in California. I think to correct you, you're only not admitted in California.

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yeah.

Paul Newsome

Analyst

Can you talk about how that's swinging back and forth?

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yeah. So where you're seeing a lot of dislocation, you are seeing more not admitted or EMS carriers going in there because they have the flexibility to increase rates, which is why we use EMS as well. I will say that I think you're seeing more EMS carriers throughout the footprint in general. Just again, as markets change pretty quickly and dynamically, EMS gives you the opportunity to kind of respond to that in a much quicker fashion than the admitted. More stable environments I think the admitted is fine, but I think in some of the larger states you are seeing more EMS carriers enter into the market that we've seen. The EMS market in general has grown, but it is not your specialty EMS. You're seeing kind of a bit of a switch for your typical homeowners under an EMS carrier.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ernie Garateix for any closing remarks.

Ernie Garateix

Management

Yeah. Thank you very much, everyone, for joining the call. We hope you have a great day.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.