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Hope Bancorp, Inc. (HOPE)

Q1 2012 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 24, 2012

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Quarter 2012 BBCN Bancorp, Inc. Earnings Conference Call. My name is Fab [ph] and I'll be your operator for today. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today, Angie Yang, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations.

Angie Yang

Analyst

Good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us for the BBCN Bancorp 2012 first quarter investor conference call. Before we begin, I’d like to make a brief statement regarding forward-looking statements. The call today may contain forward-looking projections regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. We wish to caution you that such statements are just predictions and actual results may differ materially as a result of risks and uncertainties that pertain to the company’s business. We refer you to the documents that the company files periodically with the SEC, specifically the company’s most recent Form 10-K, as well as the Safe Harbor statement in the press release issued yesterday. These documents contain important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. BBCN assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today’s call. The financial results for the 2012 first quarter reflect the further refinement of the estimated fair value calculations and accounting adjustments required under the acquisition method of accounting. We have allotted 1 hour for this call. BBCN’s President and CEO, Alvin Kang, will begin today with an overview of the quarter; and our Chief Financial Officer, Philip Guldeman, will discuss financial results in more detail. Then, Al will wrap up our presentation with closing remarks, before we begin the question-and-answer session. Also joining us this morning from management are Bonnie Lee, Chief Operating Officer; Mark Lee, Chief Credit Officer; and Doug Goddard, our Deputy Chief Financial Officer. With that, I’d like to turn the call over to Al Kang. Al?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Thank you, Angie. Good morning everyone and thanks for joining us today. I’m going to start off by providing an overview of the quarter, and then Phil will walk through our financial results in more detail. We’re very pleased to continue the positive momentum following the merger with a strong earnings report. For the first full quarter of operations as a combined company, we generated net income available to common stockholders of $22.1 million, or $0.28 per diluted common share. On a core basis, our pre-tax pre-provision earnings before the positive effects of acquisition accounting was greater than 2.50%. Our return on average assets was 1.86% in the quarter and our return on average equity was 11.87%. And I’m pleased to note that all of these ratios exceed the recent stand-alone performances of both Nara and Center. Our first quarter results were driven by solid revenue generation, disciplined expense growth, and low credit costs. And Phil will discuss these in more detail later in the presentation. Loan production in the first quarter was lower than the previous quarter, largely reflecting the historical first quarter seasonal trend. Total originations for the first quarter 2012 amounted to $167.6 million. This compares with pro forma loan production of $198.8 million in the fourth quarter 2011. I am very pleased that we continue to make progress on our goal of being a more relationship oriented bank. Of the total $168 million in new production for the quarter, approximately 44% were C&I loans. This production resulted in a slight increase in our C&I portfolio in the quarter, but perhaps just as importantly, the new commercial relationships we brought into the Bank are generating higher balances of non-interest bearing deposits resulting in an improved deposit mix and lower cost of funds. SBA loan production was $34.6…

Philip Guldeman

Analyst

Thanks, Al. Let me start by noting that the merger completed on November 30, 2011 impacts the comparability of operating results for the first quarter of 2012 versus the prior year and preceding quarters. As Al mentioned, our results for the first quarter of 2012 reflect the first full quarter of operations as a combined entity. In comparison, the 2011 fourth quarter included 2 months of stand-alone operations of the former Nara Bancorp and 1 month of combined operations following the completion of the merger. And of course, our prior year first quarter results reflect Nara operations on a stand-alone basis. Where appropriate, we provided in the press release supplemental information that we believe will be helpful in better understanding our past and current performance. Operating results for the 3 months ended March 31, 2012 include a number of pre-tax acquisition accounting adjustments and expenses related to the merger, as well as certain other significant expense items. In total, these had a positive impact of $9.6 million on our pre-tax income for the first quarter of this year. Let’s begin with the income statement. Net interest income for the first quarter came in at $60.9 million, which was higher than our expectations. Net interest income included approximately $9.1 million of loan interest income from accretion of the acquisition accounting discount on Center’s loan portfolio. As you know, the accretion of the discount is driven by the rate, size and remaining maturity of the pay-offs and pay-downs in the acquired portfolio, which can be very difficult, if not impossible to predict. In the first quarter, the accretion significantly exceeded our expectations. Our net interest margin was 5.11% in the first quarter. Excluding the effects of acquisition accounting adjustments, net interest margin was 4.04% or 9 basis points lower than the equivalent…

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Thanks, Phil. From an operational standpoint, we continue to feel optimistic about 2012. The second quarter will be a very busy one for us with our operational systems conversion coming upon us in the next 2 weeks, followed by branch consolidations later in May, and the consolidation of our headquarters in late June. These major events will result in a peak of merger-related expenses in the second quarter. However, we expect to begin seeing more meaningful cost saves from the merger beginning in the third quarter from these and other events. With much of our integration planning winding down, we are focusing a greater amount of time and energy on building the Bank’s business. While the market remains extremely competitive and loan demand still quite tepid, we’re pleased to see a stronger loan pipeline relative to recent quarters. We believe that the additional scale, convenience, and brand recognition that we have as the largest Korean-American bank positions us well to capture additional market share. And we’re pleased to note that we had a number of new sizable customer wins in this first quarter. With an expanded potential market of customers in terms of size, location, and ethnicity, we plan to be aggressive in pursuing new business relationships. The loan production that we are anticipating from our strengthened loan pipeline should lead to solid revenue growth in the coming quarters as a result of increasing net interest income and consistent gains on sales of SBA loan. Considering the operating leverage, higher revenue and improved efficiencies that we expect as we move through the year, we believe we should see solid increases in our core earnings power, particularly in the second half of the year. On a final note, understanding that the question will be asked, let me just comment briefly on our plans for TARP redemption. It is our goal to repay TARP as quickly as we can without raising additional capital. Given the strength of our balance sheet and the internal capital we anticipate generating on a go-forward basis, we are well positioned to do so. Now, we would be happy to take questions you might have.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question will come from the line of Aaron Deer with Sandler O’Neill & Partners.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

A question on the margin, you guys do a nice job of kind of breaking out some of the merger accounting and I can understand how difficult it is to forecast what the prepayment level might be, but if you try to normalize what level of prepayments you’re going to have at any given quarter and look at your maturities, what kind of impact do you expect from the discount accretion on a go-forward basis?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Well, as I mentioned, it’s really, really hard to predict that because it’s influenced by a number of factors, including the rate of those prepays and pay-offs and we had about 13% of the portfolio turnover this last quarter, but it also depends upon the size and maturity of the individual loan. So if you have a large loan with a long maturity on it, it has a large discount associated with it. So, while we can’t predict in the future any individual quarter, I think we can say that obviously as time goes on that number is going to decrease and ultimately go away as all those loans come over to the BBCN portfolio.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

All right. But you do have some sort of estimate that you have to do just to construct that so is there a level that you would anticipate realizing on a go forward basis?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Nothing that we would be willing to share because it really is very unpredictable. We can determine with some degree of accuracy the amount of loans being paid-off, but we can’t determine whether they’ve been outstanding from 7 years or they have -- what their remaining maturity is.

Philip Guldeman

Analyst

Well, I can add one -- more color to that is that we anticipate that in second quarter, we have about $96 million scheduled to be mature, about $30 million of that is a CRE and $66 million is a C&I. What impact that will have on the discount accretion, I’m not too sure at this time.

Aaron Deer

Analyst

Okay. And then the -- I was just curious, the FDIC insurance costs were quite a bit lower, is that due to a lower basis rate for your premium?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Yes, it is. And it’s particularly lower in this quarter only because of the way the billing cycle goes, so we got a little extra benefit from it this quarter. So, it won’t be as good next quarter, but it will continue to be better than prior quarters.

Operator

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Lana Chan with BMO Capital Markets.

Lana Chan

Analyst

Could you talk about the SBA loan sale outlook and originations going forward?

Bonita Lee

Analyst

Sure. We have a pretty solid SBA pipeline, much stronger than the first quarter. Some of the production in the first quarter, the actual [indiscernible] would be happening in the second quarter. And in terms of selling, we really look at it on a quarter-to-quarter basis. So, it’s pretty difficult to tell -- I mean to tell exactly how much that we are going to sell in the 2Q.

Lana Chan

Analyst

Okay. And you mentioned pay-offs on both the core loan portfolio and SBA was high this quarter due to seasonality, I guess so the expectations are that loan originations will stay strong, but pay-offs will decline in the second quarter?

Bonita Lee

Analyst

Traditionally, when we look at the trends, first quarter we experienced higher pay-offs and pay-downs. So, if we have a strong production in the 2Q and have stabilized average pay-offs and pay-downs, we should see some increase in the loan balances.

Lana Chan

Analyst

Okay. And just trying to get at the question about the purchase accounting accretions impact for net interest income, so this quarter, I think, originally you had guided to $50 million to $55 million for net interest income, is that not a good base anymore? I’m assuming it was just higher this quarter because of some of those higher pay-offs and if pay-offs are going to start slowing or should slow in the second quarter, is that still a good base to use going forward?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Well, we don’t typically provide guidance. We did the last quarter only because things were so terribly unusual, but I think in the press release we did state that the amounts of accretion income exceeded our expectations and that’s why the number was about $4 million higher than the guidance that we provided.

Lana Chan

Analyst

Okay.

Alvin Kang

Analyst

So, I think, we’re getting closer to a normalized quarter as best as one can tell now that we have a full combined quarter of operations and some unusual purchase accounting adjustments flowing through.

Lana Chan

Analyst

Okay. And then can you just talk about the outlook for just the core margin excluding the purchased accounting accretion, are there additional levers to pull to lower the cost of funds further?

Philip Guldeman

Analyst

There is potentially a modest opportunity coming both from modest re-pricing of our time deposits and hopefully continued shift in the mix towards non-interest bearing deposits, but our non-interest bearing deposits can swing pretty significantly based upon customer decisions, and Bonnie, I don’t know if you’d like to add to that on the loan side?

Bonita Lee

Analyst

I think you covered it very well.

Philip Guldeman

Analyst

Okay?

Operator

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Gary Tenner with D. A. Davidson.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Just had another follow up question on the discount accretion, you told us how much of the discount is remaining, I think it’s somewhere around $45 million, just wanted to confirm it?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

I’ll ask Doug, our Deputy Chief Financial Officer.

Douglas Goddard

Analyst

Well, the part that’s easiest to follow, we had about $78 million today of acquisition related to the non-credit impaired loans, and so we have just the high 60s, less $68 million, $69 million of that.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay. And so just to kind of, maybe I might be asking the same question a different way from some of the earlier, but I mean, of the $9 million, or $9.1 million of accretion this quarter, I mean, do you have any sense that you could help us out with in terms of what you would consider to be accelerated accretion versus what might be more of kind of a typical quarter?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Well, I think the fact that we experienced a significant amount of pay-offs in the first quarter might suggest that the first quarter is higher than what we would expect going forward, yet I would in very rough terms, extremely rough terms, absent the pay-off activity, that accretion might have been $3 million or $4 million lower.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s helpful.

Alvin Kang

Analyst

I think maybe just to put a cap on all of this, I think from a net interest income perspective, the guidance that we gave the $50 million to $55 million, that’s a conservative estimate, but we don’t want you to get too excited with what you saw in the first quarter. So, just keep that range in mind, maybe it’s a little higher towards the high end of that range.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay. And then just one question, in terms of service charge income, it was up obviously this quarter because you had a full quarter of the combined company, but a little lower than I would have thought on a combined basis. Have you guys been waiving service charges for any customers as you’ve kind of gone through the re-branding and the combination?

Philip Guldeman

Analyst

There have been no significant changes in our policies or applications of that, no.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question will come from the line of Julianna Balicka with KBW.

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

I wanted to ask a little bit about the 13% portfolio turnover you had referenced earlier. Of that turnover, how much of the loans were they renewals and re-pricing that came back into your legacy or ongoing core portfolio versus how much of that left the bank?

Douglas Goddard

Analyst

In the first quarter, we had about a $142 million that’s migrated onto BBCN.

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then on the liability side, with the adjustments to the cost of deposits, how should we think about that going forward? As those deposits mature and renew, will we see a higher deposit cost or since those have been adjusted to market rates we shall see not a spike in deposit cost or how should we think about the fair value accounting on the liability side?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Yes, that’s correct. The benefit that we’re receiving on the deposit side will diminish over time.

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

And do you have a sense of how -- what kind of a pipeline we’re looking at on that particular side?

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Probably most of that would be gone in a couple of years. Doug?

Douglas Goddard

Analyst

Yes, and with it front-ended because it’s based on what the average life of the old Center CDs was and that was in the 9 month to 10 month range in terms of average. So, a great deal of that would be gone in the next couple of quarters.

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

And so then I guess, then I will step back, so as that rolls off and re-heals [ph] we will see it renewing to higher CD levels, more in line with what the Nara CDs are or will we see them kind of renewing to market rates, which presumably fair value accounting reflects?

Douglas Goddard

Analyst

Well, they’ll re-price at the BBCN rates, which are lower than the old Center rates, which -- because they were a year old, but yes, they will be re-pricing lower.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to management for closing comments.

Alvin Kang

Analyst

Well, that was easy. Okay. Well, thanks for joining us and we look forward to speaking to you at the next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a wonderful day.