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Hallador Energy Company (HNRG)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 10, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to Hallador Energy's Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2019 Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Becky Palumbo, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Becky Palumbo

Analyst

Thank you everyone for taking the time to join us today. Today, we are going to talk about our fourth quarter and full year 2019 earnings. If you haven't had time to review the Form 10-K and the earnings release we issued yesterday, they're both posted on our website today. And as said before, this call is being webcast and a replay will be available on our website along with the transcript later this week. Participating on today's call with me are Brent Bilsland, our President and CEO; and Larry Martin, our CFO. Larry will begin with the financial overview, followed by Brent with comments on operations. After management completes their opening remarks we will open the line up for Q&A. Our remarks will include forward-looking statements that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For example, our estimates of mining costs, future cost sales and regulations regarding the Clean Air Act and other environmental initiatives. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as may be required by law. Also, I would like to remind you that - will be turning the call back to - I'm sorry. With that said, I will turn the call over to Larry. Thank you.

Larry Martin

Analyst

Good afternoon everybody and thanks for listening. I'm going to start with our review of operating results. And before I do that, I want to get some definitions out of the way. We define adjusted free cash flow as net income, plus deferred income taxes, plus DD&A, plus ARO accretion and stock compensation, less maintenance CapEx, and the effects of our equity method investments. We define adjusted EBITDA as EBITDA plus stock compensation and ARO accretion less the effects of our equity method investments in Hourglass Sands. Hallador incurred a net loss of $59.8 million for the quarter or $1.95 a share, and $59.9 million loss or $1.95 share for the year. This loss included $77.9 million of impairments. Without the effect of the impairments, Hallador would have lost $1.6 million for the quarter were a nickel a share and $1.7 million for the year or $0.06 a share, free cash flow of $8.1 million for the quarter, $29.8 million for the year. We had adjusted EBITDA of $16.7 million for the quarter and $68.8 million for the year. We increased our debt by $8.2 million for the quarter and reduced our debt $8.3 million for the entire year. We paid dividends of $1.2 million for the quarter or $0.04 a share. And total of $5 million in dividends for the year or $0.16 a share. Our bank debt at the end of '19 was $180.2 million, our net debt at the end of '19 was $171.4 million and our debt-to-EBITDA leverage ratio was 2.62 times . I will now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Brent Bilsland.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Thank you, Larry. As announced in our press release, after experiencing negative free cash flow at Carlisle for the past 18 months, we have decided to permanently close our Carlisle Mine, which will further reduce our overall cost structure, maximize per ton margins, reduce current and future CapEx by utilizing Carlisle equipment and parts at Oaktown. As we reduce coal and parts inventory, we will generate significant cash to be utilized for debt reduction. During the quarter, we impaired three assets. The Carlisle Mine, the Bulldog reserve and Hourglass Sands for a total of $77.9 million in non-cash impairment. The Carlisle Mine represented $65.7 million of impairments as a result of its closure. Additionally, we thought it prudent to impair our Bulldog reserve by $9.2 million as current market softness has reduced the opportunities to open the mine. Lastly due to reduced frac sand pricing, we determined that an impairment of our Hourglass Sands projects was necessary. We continue to sell through our sand inventory but have recorded an impairment of $2.9 million. Some investors might have concern that in 2019, we sold a record 8.1 million tons. And in 2020, we are selling 1.4 million tons less. How is selling less of a product is a good thing? Well, the answer is Carlisle produce 1.5 million tons last year at a loss. In 2020, Oaktown will essentially be producing the same amount of tons. As in 2019 without having to support the losses of the Carlisle Mine. Operating cash flow was $15 million lower than expected in 2019. $7 million was largely attributed to Carlisle's high cost structure pressuring margins, and we increased coal inventory by $8 million in anticipation of winter shipping season. As we look to 2020, those headwinds either do not exist or unwind itself. In…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Lucas Pipes with B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Lucas Pipes

Analyst

I wanted to first ask a little bit about kind of the contracting environment out there. Brent, what is your take on kind of how the utilities are approaching this market, are they in a wait and see mode. Are they purchasing tons if so what's roughly the price out there I think it's something the market would really appreciate some additional color on? Thank you very much.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Yes I think we've talked in the past about. There are times in the coal market with the window is open and co-buyers are buying coal and there are times where the window is closed and quite frankly, there's just not a market price and to me right now the window is closed. When our burns were weak export tons came home, gas prices crash. So, I would say most utilities at this point in time are long inventory, slow to pick up inventory. I think they will be looking hard at the summer month burns, and looking for gas prices to increase. So that's why we basically are assuming no additional sales this year. Because we just don't - I mean where there is a few buyers out there. But I think we were at prices that we would not be interested in participating.

Lucas Pipes

Analyst

Okay, no that's very helpful, I appreciate that color. And then in terms of the market in the Illinois Basin, you mentioned that the competitors out there. What do you think is going to be the supply response I mean if the market is essentially frozen out there? You're in a pretty enviable contract position, not everyone is in the same boat. How do you think this will play out?

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Well, I think we're seeing it play out. I mean that's 15 million tons has announced that it’s closed in the last 14 months. 80% of that has announced that it is permanently closed such as the Carlisle mine. There's a lot of production coming off-line that there is no announcement for, if you're in the industry, you have people telling you that this mine over here is used to run 7 units. It's now running two. And so there's a lot of supply response. It really has no public announcement with it. We estimate that to be at least 15 million tons. So, you've got almost a third of the Illinois Basin. That was producing - at the end of 2018. That's not producing today. And large part, people look to export. But I think in large part - is just cheapness of gas prices. You've got gas down at unsustainable levels. This is - in my opinion evidenced by the fact that gas rigs have come off 76% year-over-year that’s a staggering statistics. And now over the weekend, we see a dramatic shift in the oil prices, which sounds like it's going to last for a while. We're seeing significant response. Just yesterday and oil rigs coming off-line, frac jobs being stopped mid-track. The industry is having a significant response in large part because the oil and gas industry doesn't have the access to capital that had just a couple of years ago. In past downturns that industry would have borrowed or raised equity, and those are levers that really can't pull right now. So to me the only lever they currently have is to reign in their drilling budgets and preserve cash, and that's what we think is happening. Now, decline curves for shale plays, which is the majority of U.S. gas and oil for that matter. This is a pretty steep decline curves. So I think everyone is still trying to re-jigger their model to figure out exactly when and to what magnitude we see supply come off-line. But supply is coming off-line like I've not seen in my career. So it's a dramatic time, but we see things coming back into balance. And the good news is like you said, we sit here, we feel no pressure to sell coal this year. We need to sell another 20% for next year. And we believe that we will see gas prices significantly higher than they are today due to this response and drilling.

Lucas Pipes

Analyst

This is very, very helpful, a follow-up, super helpful in fact. And follow-up question on that is - I know you don't have a crystal ball. But if you had to take a gas kind of where gas prices are going to shake out on the back of the dynamics, you just mentioned. So that's one question? And then two, what gas price do you think is needed to balance the coal markets? You mentioned utilities aren’t buying, coal is being stocking up like what is - what's the gas price you’re looking at from what's going on in the energy world and what's the gas price needed? Thank you.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

What’s the gas price needed so, very little question. I think that Illinois Basin coal does pretty darn well at a $2.60 gas price. And that would - at that price United States would need 30 million tons of Illinois Basin coal to come back online. That probably doesn't exist, all that does not exist today. So it is a bit tougher to understand the supply response because we just seeing things we have seen before. We haven't seen where 13 million ton permanently closed in Illinois Basin, another two is idled, announced idle, another 15 or more has kind of idle, but hasn't really told anybody. We see people being shifted around and we see units coming off-line. We just - really haven't seen that before. So it's a little tougher going forward to saying where is the new balance? But we know that looking at what coal plants can do in Indiana, 70% usually of our product is consumed in Indiana, that $2.50, $2.60 number for gas at the Henry Hub. Typically equates to reasonable margins for coal prices back in Indiana, and coal dispatching in front of gas in Indiana. Obviously higher prices helps our customers that have greater transportation rates such as our Florida market or anything in the Southeast. So we do better obviously with those higher prices, but Indiana does pretty well and at $2 range for gas.

Lucas Pipes

Analyst

Very, very helpful and I will close it out just one last question. But what are you seeing on the retirement front is, that's something that's starting to slow down or in terms of tons and specific to be Illinois Basin. What's the outlook on that. We appreciate your perspective and thanks for all the color.

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

As far as retirement goes, I mean I think that we don't currently today have - yes, we've seen some retirements. And we've seen some talk out there mostly in the 2026, 2028 time frame. We will see some RFPs later this year. We don't know today exactly what those will bring. We saw Hoosier come out and announce in January their plan to close Merom in '23. But I think that, we're also seeing at the same point in time, FERC kind of come out and telling PJM you've got to rewrite the capacity market rules, the MOPR rule or. So we need these - if you look at the U.S. grid, our base load - we're replacing base load assets, coal new gas, mostly call a new with - those are assets that have on switches. That are being replaced by wind and solar generation that does not have an on-switch. And I think FERC is generally correct. And they are concerned about this. The rules are being rewritten first in PJM, people - some people are upset about this. Obviously it creates challenges for those states that want to go more heavily renewables. But ultimately something has the back-haul the step-up. All right. And if you want plants to sit there idle and ready to go to back up this generation, you have to pay it. And you have to pay for that through capacity payments. So we're seeing those rules change. We've seen the CEO of MISO testify before Congress, today before Halloween that he can no longer guarantee that the life can stay on 8,760 hours of the year. Because he is having far too many reliability issues and not just on days of extreme weather, just days where the sun doesn't shine and the…

Lucas Pipes

Analyst

It does. This has been very helpful as always. Appreciate the update. And yes, very helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Brent Bilsland

Analyst

Well, this is Brent. If there are no further questions, we're going to thank you everyone for joining our call, and we look forward to talking to you all next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.