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Horace Mann Educators Corporation (HMN)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 4, 2018

$46.15

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Horace Mann Second Quarter Earning Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Heather Wietzel, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Heather Wietzel

Analyst

Thank you, Sherry, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Horace Mann’s discussion of our second quarter 2018 results. Yesterday we issued our earnings release and investor supplement. Copies are available on the Investors page of our website along with our investor presentation which was posted this morning. Our speakers today are Marita Zuraitis, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Bret Conklin, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Bill Caldwell, Executive Vice President of Property and Casualty; Bret Benham, Executive Vice President, Life and Retirement; and Ryan Greenier, Vice President, Corporate Finance are also available for the question-and-answer session that follows our prepared comments. Before turning the call over to Marita, I want to note that our presentation today includes forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The company cautions investor that any forward-looking statements include risks and uncertainties and are not guarantees of future performance. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations and we assume no obligation to update them. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of factors, which are described in our press release and SEC filings. In our prepared remarks, we also use some non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are available in the supplemental section of our press release. I’ll now turn the call over to Marita.

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

Thanks Heather. Good morning, everyone and welcome to our call. Yesterday evening, we reported second quarter core earnings per diluted share of $0.13, that’s up from $0.02 we reported in the second quarter last year. Six-month core earnings of $0.64, an increase of more than 60%. Core earnings increased for two reasons. First, losses from catastrophe weather events were lower than last year's near-record levels. And while the relatively lower weather losses this year contributed to higher first half earnings, they did put some pressure on our full year expectations. We are adjusting our full year outlook accordingly with the 2018 core earnings per share estimate of $1.90 to $2.10. Bret will review our revised guidance in more detail later in the call. The second and more important contributor to the bottom line improvement is continued progress on our strategic initiatives. This progress underscores our confidence in our ability to achieve our longer term performance objectives of driving profitable growth and reaching a double-digit ROE. Due to continued success in P&C profitability initiatives and strong Life and Retirement performance, ROE rose again in the quarter. At 7%, it is nearly a 1.5 point higher than it was in mid-2017 when we introduced our ROE improvement initiative. Driving our progress over the first half of 2018 were improvements in the underlying auto loss ratio, growth in retirement assets under management and another quarter of double-digit sales increases in our Life segment. First, we achieved a 1.1 point improvement in the auto underlying loss ratio. However, much like the broader industry, we are seeing several headwinds that are impacting the pace of progress. One is that sustained higher level of non-cat weather loss affecting both auto and property. In addition, we are also seeing a modest uptick in bodily injury severity in…

Bret Conklin

Analyst

Thanks Marita. And good morning, everyone. Core earnings per share were up for both the quarter and year due to continued improvement in our strategic initiatives and favorable year-over-year comparisons of weather-related losses. However, weather losses this year were still significant and led us to revise our full year 2018 core earnings guidance to the range of $190 to $2.10 per share. Even at the low end of this range, our full year core EPS would be up about 10% over 2017. While the guidance revision is largely due to those weather losses, we've seen some additional timing-related puts and takes versus our original expectations. These changes basically net out but I'll touch upon them as I cover the outlook by business segment. A full summary of these adjustments is available on page 35 of the second quarter investor presentation which is available on our website. In P&C, net written premiums increased 3% over last year’s second quarter driven primarily by rate actions. The second quarter reported combined ratio of 114.7% was 3.8 points better than last year, largely because catastrophe losses were 4.2 points lower. Although cat losses were significant, they are in line with our typical seasonal loss experience. We consistently have higher weather-related losses in the first half of the year, especially the second quarter. For each of the previous three years, our second quarter has accounted for more than 45% of our annual catastrophe losses. And while we regularly evaluate our exposure risk, for each of these three years property full year results were solidly profitable because weather-related losses in the second half of the year were lighter. This is largely due to a significant reduction we have made in coastal property exposure which has meaningfully reduced our risk for hurricane losses. Last year, our losses…

Heather Wietzel

Analyst

Thanks, Bret. Sherry, could you poll for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question is from Christopher Campbell with KBW. Please proceed.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

I guess, my first question is just kind of these increased trends you were seeing towards non-cat weather. When did the shifts become business as usual and automatically built in to your P&C pricing algorithms?

Bill Caldwell

Analyst

Chris, this is Bill Caldwell. It happens as soon as they occur. As soon as those increased whether they go right into our indications and we react with rate, not only rate, but also claims and underwriting restrictions were appropriate, but essentially they go right into our pricing models.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

And then just kind of just backing away a little bit from the near-term focus on auto improvement. And then just looking over -- looking at Horace Mann's P&C growth over time. And I mean, I understand homeowners -- there was a lot of coastal reductions, et cetera. But if you're just looking at it over a longer period of time, the auto TIF and I'm thinking like 2008 to present, auto TIF is down about 12%, homeowners is down 23%. So I'm just thinking, structurally, as Horace Mann becomes more rate adequate, I mean, does Horace Mann have the skill set to grow at this customer base?

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

This is Marita, Chris, I'll answer the first and then if Bill wants to add any specific P&C details and facts he certainly can. I understand the question and I think it's a good one, you mentioned retreating from the coast, from a property perspective and you see that in our more typical third quarter cat history tends to be very low for us. So over the course of the year that's how we're able to maintain that 6% and 7% and this year with the second quarter maybe closer to the higher end to that range, but also embedded in this is the work that Bill and his team have done in state segmentation, in moving from places that are less profitable from an auto perspective that are more litigious. And you see that in the agent count as well as we begin to restrict agents in those places. And as we begin to build agents in better geographies, where our opportunity to have a better ROE and a better predominantly auto loss ratio is there and we are when we break it down state by state seeing some really decent PIF growth in places where we are intending to grow, it's just going to take a while for that to overcome the places that we've been constructing and we're getting close to that point. We feel good that we're seeing the increase in premium, it’s what we planned and we planned for flattish PIF growth this year. So we're right where we plan to be. And I think it's important and you see in it, they are seeing the improvement in the underlying loss ratios, you're seeing improvement in the ROE that follows this. And this has all been part of the plan. So when we look at it, we see it as things are falling into place as we planned and eventually we'll begin to see that growth – that growth emerge. And I also want to remind you that it isn't just a P&C game and we're not just a P&C carrier, this is really about the retirement assets and the life insurance that we provide to our educators. And when you see that you can see the underlying benefit that that provides to our financials.

Bill Caldwell

Analyst

Yes. And Chris, it's Bill. I just have a couple of comments for that. If you go back as far as 2008, a lot of the folks at this table weren't here then, but I believe we did have a non-educator strategy that didn't have the proper return. So as we said, business it tends to be non-educator so not only state mixes Marita said, but also our educator mix is up, our tear mix is up, our cross-hold penetration is up. So from a mix perspective, we feel really good about it. And as we work on the states that are profit challenged, we do have the HMGA where we keep that customer. So although you don't see it in our auto pit numbers, we do retain that customer on – in our agency and that enables Bret's business to cross-sell life and retirement products.

Christopher Campbell

Analyst

And then just kind of one final question. Now just in terms of excess capital does the really strong life sales, is that easing up excess – is that easing off a lot of excess capital or how should we think about that?

Bret Benham

Analyst

Chris, this is Bret. With respect to excess capital you know we ended the you know the quarter at about $115 million and as it relates to the life portion of the excess capital you know we're basically the life excess is actually up. You know this quarter versus where we were in the first quarter. So even though life sales are up 49% you know somewhat of a small volume, so inherently asset eats up some of the excess capital, but at this juncture nothing significant. Like I said our excess capital in the life company is probably up about $12 million from the first quarter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Gary Ransom with Dowling and Partners. Please proceed.

Gary Ransom

Analyst

I had a question on loss cost trends and I apologize if I missed some of your prepared remarks, but I think you were mentioning something about the bodily injury severity trends, but I was interesting – interested whether that is a sort of a medical cost pressure or whether it is the legal, more litigious pressures or some combination of the both that's driving what you see?

Bill Caldwell

Analyst

Gary, it’s a combination of both. You could see it in the medical CPI costs are rising for medical injuries, but there's also the legal side of this. Our attorney rep claims when they come to us the percentage that are handled by an attorney are up. You could turn on any TV station, not just in Philadelphia this last weekend and there's dollar spent on advertising for auto injury claims is up 10%. So we're definitely seeing some pressure on the legal side and it's a macro trend across a lot of markets.

Gary Ransom

Analyst

For what it's worth. I see those ads in Connecticut too.

Bill Caldwell

Analyst

Billboards.

Gary Ransom

Analyst

Yes.

Bill Caldwell

Analyst

Billboards, TV commercials, just the expense that they're putting into this to increase…

Gary Ransom

Analyst

Then, the other side of the loss trends is frequency and we’ve – a couple of your large competitors have talked about frequency being down. It's been down quite a bit year-to-date maybe 2% or 3%. Maybe that's not universal across all companies, but a couple of big ones that tell us and I just wondered what you're seeing there and whether that is giving you any offsetting benefits at this point?

Bill Caldwell

Analyst

Yes. I'd like that you’re open with loss cost because they tend to look at the blends because when you do put in claims initiative sometimes they can influence your frequency especially around bodily injury. So I think, it's important to look at the combination of the two. But, in a generalized sense, I would call our frequency more stable. It's normalized and I wouldn't characterize it as decreasing right now. But, if you remember the second quarter for us tends to see a lot of weather related frequency especially on auto which does not go into the cash free pocket. So how that causes damage to a car that a comp loss that would be a cat loss, but accidents that are related to the intensified weather go into our ex-cat bucket and that - you could quantify that as about go into our ex-cap book and that you can quantify that is about 2 points for the quarter.

Gary Ransom

Analyst

And then, shifting gears a little bit on the Retirement side, I think you mentioned that there is -- you're having some success in building the assets under management with the new model that you've put in place a while back. Can you give us a little more details on how that is progressing how it's working with the agents and how you're adapting to that new model?

Bret Benham

Analyst

Gary, this is Bret Benham, I'm the other Bret. It’s been quite a year and part as we’ve rolled this out and done it in the heart of some of the changes with the DOL with new products and new forms of distribution also, our new ways of taking these products out, but also all the training that we've done. But I think the big opportunities or the big wins that we've seen is when we're able to take what we would call the total value proposition of Horace Mann out into the school districts. I don't know how well you know this market, but it tends to be very much product and people are taking products in. And we to some degree can have to compete that way, but where our value is as where we take all of Horace Mann, not just the 403(b) offerings, but auto, home, life and everything else. And so with this new recordkeeping capability we were able to get in there and win and win in large chunks not just one educator at a time, but 80 educators or even get the whole school. Those are wins. And so we're starting to see more of those opportunities not only to propose on those, but actually starting to win those. And again, that's a good sign, it's a good validation that what we're doing is correct. But it's also a good indication of the future and what we're trying to take this part of our business.

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

And this is Marita, I mean, I think that's well said Bret and we're talking about tweaked models and increased capability and refreshed products, but at the core of it, we always have to remind ourselves that we have an experienced captive agency plant that knows our educator market that we have a homogeneous set of customers with simple needs that we understand and we have a simple set of products that aren't particularly complex. So, that combined with the refreshment that Bret is talking about, we feel really confident as we move forward as I’ve said in the separate changing landscape, it's easier for us because we know our customers and we've been doing it for a very long period of time.

Gary Ransom

Analyst

Can you give us some idea about how many times during the first six months of the year, you are getting sort of the whole school districts or where you got the big case sort of want it?

Bret Conklin

Analyst

I don't have those numbers off the top. They are relatively small right now. Most of it is get back into that whole funnel where you're out there prospecting and then you're actually doing the RFPs and then you see the wins later on, but it does have a longer tail than our normal business, tail to not only to win the institution and then a tail to be able to go back in and enroll the individuals one by one.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Matt Carletti with JMP Securities. Please proceed.

Matt Carletti

Analyst

I’ve just got a couple of questions. One is I was just following up on Gary’s some of the comments Bill you had for Gary’s question. The two points of non-cat weather that you referenced was that related to auto in the quarter?

Bret Conklin

Analyst

Yeah, that was related to auto, but a similar story for property, a little bit less I believe about a 1.5 are property of non-cat weather impact in the quarter.

Matt Carletti

Analyst

That was where I was going back. And then my other question relates to Life, Marita you spoke a bit in your opening comments about the strong sales there. I was curious if you could just give us some more color on kind of what a lot of that the new customer looks like? Is it customers that were already part of Horace Mann that you had a P&C relationship with and you are extending that relationship into Life, maybe Retirement too. Is it new customers to Horace Mann and there are P&C policies may be coming along with that. What does that growth look like kind of more holistically not just within the Life segment?

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

Great question and I'll let Bret comment if he has any more specifics. But I think when you look at our relatively small base. And I think if you look at our historic focus at least in recent history on P&C, when we give agents new products and new training and we get them back in the Life business because they're good agents who know how to sell. Then we see increases in sales, pretty much across the board, but these are educators, many of them are educators where we already have the P&C and maybe the retirement as well. And we never asked for the life insurance. Many times, they might have purchased it elsewhere and many times they have no coverage at all. So it's basically asking for it. A good example is, in our contact center, when we added to our script a simple question that said, when was the last time someone reviewed your life insurance needs, we saw an uptick in folks saying, yes, I'd be glad to have you take a look at that and that has led to some lead on you know generation for agents and actual sales. But the talk tracks the products, the training put in the hands of agents that are with these customers anyway have led to those people, who have that need you know taking up the product. I don't know if you have anything to add to that.

Bret Conklin

Analyst

Yes. Matt, though what I’d add to that is you know nothing really more than what Marita said and we do have a strong customer base out there that's loyal to us sort of the field force knows life insurance. I think there's been a rejuvenation out there. We finished the year very strong last year with a record month in December. And getting out there and visiting with them you know I think I've said this ever since I've been here and of course I've only been here for six months and they're about to resend my new guy card, but if - there is a lot of upside in my opinion here on the life insurance part of the business. We have seen an increase in placement rates through the end of last year. I think our placement rates it was roughly 76% of the business that was – that came in. Right now, we're hovering in at around 81%, 82%. So, we're doing a better job of underwriting it, which means we're getting it out quicker. We have better placement rates. But most of the work that we've done internally has been better blocking and tackling. The field forces responded. I've now come off of five of these back to school meetings and they're pumped up about life insurance and – and some of the things that we want to do going forward, but they're just you know they've done a good job in responding. But it's been pretty much to the same traditional customer, nothing new that’s exotic. I can't really point to one part of the product portfolio. It's coming in everywhere from single premium to term insurance to recurring premium, which we'd like to see more and more of. So, overall just very positive and we want to grow this even further although 49% year-over-year seems to be something that's probably not sustainable, forever we do want to grow it.

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

And to put a finer point on Bret’s last comment which I think is important, the growth is coming from asking. The growth is coming from better training and better preparation and better focus with our agency plan. It's not coming from changes in underwriting profile, it's not coming from changes in pricing. This is the standard fare that we had available for a while, we increased the emphasis and we're asking more. And I feel good about what we're doing in the lifecycle…

Bret Conklin

Analyst

Yes, the strength of the execution.

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

Absolutely.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question is from Robert Glasspiegel with Janney. Please proceed.

Robert Glasspiegel

Analyst

What's your new money rate at PC and why and how does that compare to better deals? Is the spread pressures, sort of alleviating life?

Bret Conklin

Analyst

Yes, our new money rates for the first quarter was about 4.25% which I think that brought our year to date - just south of 4.10% year-to-date so, and as you year to date. So you know and as you recall Bob in our original plan we assumed a new money rate of about 3.50%, so running better than planned.

Robert Glasspiegel

Analyst

But where is your - what's your embedded deals in PC and how does that compare to the money rigs?

Bret Conklin

Analyst

I mean the overall book yield, we ended the quarter at 5.14% and pretty much up slightly from last year at the time I think and here again going back to - we planned for the year was about 5%. So, we're doing well, we're probably 10 bps, 10 bps to 15 bps above what we thought where we would be out at this time. So, 5% overall book yield, and obviously the pressure is that the new money rate is lower than the overall book yield, which obviously puts a pressure on all of our lives.

Marita Zuraitis

Analyst

And I think that looks like we've got no questions in for today. Be available rest of the day and next week if anyone would like any follow up. We appreciate everyone participating today. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank you for your participation.