Yes, it is. As you see from our annual guidance, which certainly strives to exceed, but we don't think that that happens in 2020. I think, it is important to remember that there's two distinct things going on here. One is a conversion to -- some of the customers to SaaS. But, even before we get there, there's a notion that we've rendered the whole product line as software. So, even if you're not going to SaaS, even if you're still doing capital purchasing or perpetual license purchasing of our products, increasingly often, you're not getting to the server or the enabling hardware from us, you're buying it directly from HP or Dell, let us say. And so, Simon, that creates a clear headwind on the top-line. So, I think it's quite different than the value that we deliver and hence our continued focus on gross profit and operating profit. Very rough numbers, the traditional hardware sales, the appliances themselves can be up to 50% of the revenue that we were doing -- delivering in the past, at virtually no margin. So, I think, the challenge -- and we're going to continue to work on you to try to -- you and everyone else to not think just in terms of Video, because as we turn over the hardware sales to HP, let us say, that is going to be a top-line headwind that I would argue really doesn't, in any way, negatively impact the value we're delivering or creating in the market. We're still delivering the same software. The fact that we delivered 60% record gross margin this quarter, the fact that we still have 14% operating income on the business, while the top-line was down, I think, goes to the fact that, on the timeline, we're kind of -- we're losing empty calories. So, I think, we've still got to go through the rest of that process of flushing out those empty calories, if you will. And at some point, yes, then I think that the top-line will begin to reflect the fundamental growth of the business. But, in the meantime, I -- we believe that focusing on the gross profit and the operating profit of the business segment are actually more meaningful in terms of gauging the progress of this business.