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Hecla Mining Company (HL)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 6, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Q2 2020 Hecla Mining Company Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Mike Westerlund. Please go ahead.

Mike Westerlund

Analyst

Thank you, operator. This is Mike Westerlund, Hecla’s Vice President of Investor Relations. Good morning and welcome everyone, and thank you for joining us for Hecla's second quarter 2020 financial and operations results conference call. Our financial results news release that was issued this morning before market open, along with today's presentation are available on our website. On today's call, we have Phil Baker, President and CEO; Lindsay Hall, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Lauren Roberts, Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer; Kurt Allen, Director of Exploration; and Keith Blair, Chief Geologist. Any forward-looking statements made today by the management team come under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act and involve risks shown on Slides 2 and 3 in our earnings release and in our 10-Q and 10-K filings with the SEC. These risks could cause results to differ from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Reconciliations of non-GAAP measures cited in this call and related slides and cautionary language for our use of the term resource, instead of reserves are also found in these documents. With that, I will pass the call to Phil Baker.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Thanks Mike. Good morning, everyone. And thanks for joining the call. I’m going to speak to Slide 4. It's become clear that we've been – we will be operating in a new normal, which is in reaction to this pandemic, and we're prepared for it. We have plans and practices that help protect the workers, the communities, and our operations. As you see from the second quarter results, we've been able to adjust quickly. And my thanks go out to all of my colleagues at the mines and in our offices who have made the quarter what it is. So despite COVID-19, we're producing more silver at higher prices than we did last year or in the first quarter of this year, enabling us to generate 24% higher revenues, $27 million of free cash flow and combined with, being declared an essential business, we were able to repay $160 million of our revolver. Now I'm going to let Lindsay and Lauren focus on the quarter and I'm just going to really focus on two things: first, on the silver price, and second, on the uniqueness of Hecla as an investment. So first on prices, gold and especially silver prices are markedly higher. And we think the higher prices are inevitable given the backdrop of the continued monetary stimulus from negative real rates, the trillions of dollars of physical stimulus, the weakness of the U.S. dollar and growing political uncertainty. And so we haven't seen the gold prices at these levels. But we have seen silver and I think that's important to remember. What is clear is that when the gold prices go up significantly, silver goes up even more. And we saw this number of times in 1979-1980, 2005 to 2008, 2009 to 2011 and then again 2015-2016. And of…

Lindsay Hall

Analyst

Thanks, Phil, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on Slide 6. As Phil noted, we have a strong second quarter ending with some $76 million in cash and $50 million drawn on the revolving line of credit. As you recall at the outset of the pandemic, we do drew down on our revolving line of credit to ensure we have adequate liquidity until we could determine how that pandemic was going to affect the operations at our mine sites. Without risk now being essentially managed, we plan to repay the balance of the revolver before the end of the year. In July, Investissement Quebec again invested in us by subscribing for a private placement of C$50 million Canadian notes. They have been a great partner and we value our relationship with them. One of the uses of the funds might be to make open market purchases of our eight year bonds, when it makes sense, as Investissement Quebec funds come at a lower interest rate than the bonds. With an improving net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 2 times, and the bonds and the IQ notes – repayment terms well into the future, we are very comfortable with our balance sheet. As a leading silver producer in U.S. with a diverse asset and commodity mix, we've also been able to benefit from the substantial strong gold and increasingly strong silver prices with the gold making up 48% and silver 33% of our total revenues this quarter. This along with the ability to produce silver and gold, the cash costs, which were substantially lower than the realized metal prices, positions the company to capture the significant margin available to us, particularly in the rising commodity environment we find ourselves in today. Turning to Slide 7. We see the free cash flow generation for…

Lauren Roberts

Analyst

Thank you, Lindsay. First and most gratifying is that our safety record continues to be exemplary, despite the distractions caused by the pandemic as you can see on Slide 9. We currently have an all injury frequency rate of 1.19, which is a 74% decline over the past six years and 26% over last year. At Greens Creek on Slide 10, we have gone 470 days without a reportable injury, which is a record for the mine in its 30 years of operation. Early in our response to the COVID-19 threat, we started a 14 day quarantine for everyone going onto Admiralty Island in hotels we rent for this purpose. Access to reliable rapid testing allowed us to shorten the quarantine period to one week, during which two tests are administered. Residents at June are allowed to quarantine at home, these changes reduce the stress on our employees and their families while maintaining a high level of protection. The situation is dynamic and we will modify our procedures and response to changes as required. Production grades continue to be strong and operations are good. The process team has done a remarkable job, are gaining most of the loss throughput from the SAG motor failure in the first quarter. Mine operations and technical services are pulling together to adjust the plan as circumstances change and the results show it. I could not be more pleased with however, when it's come together in the face of the pandemic and I want to congratulate everyone on their job well done. At Casa, the mine returned to normal operations quicker than many expected, leading to strong production and cash flow generation this quarter. Unlike Greens Creek, Casa is not a camp job, although there are unique complications from COVID-19 in a camp setting, the…

Phil Baker

Analyst

Thanks, Lauren. Before we go to questions, I just want to acknowledge that this is Mike's last conference call with Hecla. He's leaving after almost eight years of running Investor Relations, Mike is our friend and we wish him well in what he's doing and sure he'll have the news on that in the near future. With that operator, you can open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question today comes from the line of Heiko Ihle with H.C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Hey guys. It’s Heiko from Wainwright. How is everybody doing?

Phil Baker

Analyst

Good.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Hey. Thanks for taking my questions, and more of an common, I think it's pretty cool and pretty unique, how you have a COVID emergency response plan right on your website, right on the whole page of your website there, well done. On your derivative contracts and using current spot pricing, what do you think the current impact is going to be for the remainder of the year? And if you would be so kind, just break it out by quarter?

Phil Baker

Analyst

Well, I don't know, if we can do that off the top of our head, Heiko, but certainly with respect to the puts, there's no impact there. So it's really – you're really talking about the – with respect to lead and zinc.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

I'll try the question differently. If I use the $14 million that you had this quarter, and I just trend line that, how far off am I going to be?

Phil Baker

Analyst

Well. Lindsay, do you have a way of answering that question, because…

Lindsay Hall

Analyst

Yes. Heiko, as a $14 million out of say, half of that is reversal on the puts from the first quarter, because as you know with the puts, if the actual price is below the strike price of the put, it's in the money, obviously with the prices rising that goes away so we have to reverse that $6 million that we recorded on the puts in the first quarter, because they're in the money, now they’re out of the money. So that out of the $14 million, half of it goes away because that's just the reversal of the put, as you know, as prices dropped, nothing happens for the value of put. The other amount we say in that $14 million basically, Heiko is, there's $4 million or $5 million a quarter of buying the puts. So we bought a few more puts maybe after June 30th, but that $14 million essentially goes away and it'll come back into blind if we buy more silver and gold puts, but at these prices, we're watching the market carefully, so that we can't trend line that. And then on the base metal hedging, which we do, that's really built into the sales line already. So there's really nothing going on there in terms of a mark-to-market on any of our derivative programs, getting away with us. And we show you the queue, the small liability – immaterial liability that sets up – set up on the balance sheet on the mark-to-market on those financially forward base metal contracts that haven't settled yet, but the offset is in the sales line anyways. So you can't trend line $14 million, obviously.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

That's helpful. And then just a clarification, the Remote Vein Miner that – Vein Miner that you have for Lucky Friday, that's stuck in Sweden. You talked about – in the release, you just talked about it on this call without the – you can't really oversee it, all I could stuff. Assuming you don't receive it as you have planned and it's not operational by call it January 1st or whatever day you actually need it by. Would it impact your fiscal 2021 outlook? Or could you simply use the old equipment, the pre-strike equipment to get towards the prior production rates?

Phil Baker

Analyst

Yes. So the RVM remember is a test where our plans have always been to mine the way we have mined with modifications that we think could improve it, same equipment, same people. The RVM would be able to increase throughput. And so we'll continue to advance the RVM in Sweden, and then when it's ready to go, we'll bring it over and then we'll test it at the Lucky Friday, but it's not fundamental to production in 2021 or anytime in the future, it's never been in our plans. So the delay is not holding us up at all, it's upside. Lauren…

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Got it. That’s what I was looking for.

Lauren Roberts

Analyst

Good morning, Heiko, for you, it’s Lauren. Yes. I think exactly what Phil said our 2021 plan and long-term plans don't rely on the RVM. It should be viewed strictly as upside optionality on productivity and also on safety as the machine is remote, but we're not dependent upon it. To your question about how we're monitoring it. We have weekly calls, we get video updates. So we're staying engaged as you'll appreciate, it's not quite the same as being on the ground, but we are engaged and progress is being made.

Heiko Ihle

Analyst

Very helpful. Thank you all. Stay safe.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Thanks, Heiko.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Fields with Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Fields

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

Hey everyone. Congratulations, Mike. Good luck in your next – in your future endeavors. I’m just wondering why – your bonds are trading at a pretty significant premium to par. Why would you pay a premium to retire eight year debt with five year debt at a reasonably similar rate? I just – help me…

Phil Baker

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

So let me just interrupt you, Matt. We'll buy bonds back when it's appropriate and buying it at such a high premium is not appropriate. So we won’t do that until the conditions are right.

Matthew Fields

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

And I know the use of proceeds in the indenture for the new Quebec that is for Casa Berardi investment and general corporate purposes. But I didn't see a limitation on how much it can be either or is there no limitation on how much can be CapEx and how much can be other?

Phil Baker

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

We do make a commitment to an amount of capital at Casa to spend a certain amount of capital at Casa, which is consistent with our plans. So we're not doing anything that we had not planned to do. Lindsay, anything to add?

Lindsay Hall

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. No, Matt, there's no restrictions on the C$50 million.

Matthew Fields

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. And it looks like your RP basket under that indenture makes you can do kind of whatever you want with those proceeds too?

Lindsay Hall

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. Correct.

Matthew Fields

Analyst · Bank of America, New York. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. All right, thanks very much. And good luck. And thanks again, Mike, for all your years here.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Trevor Turnbull with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, thanks guys. And just as mentioned, just wanted to say thank you as well to Mike Westerlund, you become part of the company that we're so used to dealing with. It's going to be very different to hear, have to talk to somebody else. So my question for Phil was kind of following up on your opening comments about the silver and gold price outlook. And I was just wondering how Hecla might benefit from the rise in bullion from the project perspective. Generally, underground mines don't have the sensitivity to metal prices that you get in the way with open pits. And I just wondered if Hecla might have opportunities from a development perspective due to these higher prices. For example, like in Nevada, is there a way to look at anything differently perhaps in the way they're developed, is there even open pit opportunities versus some of the underground stuff? And then on the open pits, you do have up at Casa and where you had them in the past at San Sebastian or are things starting to open up due to these metal prices that otherwise hadn't been an opportunity, call it a year ago?

Phil Baker

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Yes. So Trevor, look, we're going to generate a lot more free cash flow. You look at the sort of margins that we have. So with those margins, with that cash flow, it allows us to make more investment as well as do other things with it. We'll do exploration. We have a dividend policy that the existing policy that we're coming close to being in a position where it will start to pay out. So there's a number of different uses for that additional margin that we have. And part of that is going to be developing the large inventory of assets that we have Nevada, Quebec, Washington State, Colorado, British Columbia, San Sebastian, Durango, Mexico. So yes, the answer is yes, we've got lots of things in front of us.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

And again, like you used to mine down San Sebastian kind of more open pit style. Is there anything there that just kind of economically stopped working and kind of come back to life or is it that more dependent on exploration first?

Phil Baker

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

There's more exploration that we think we should do but yes, the El Toro vein, it could – well, that whole area to the South. Kurt, why don't you comment on that?

Kurt Allen

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, from the El Toro vein to the West and the East, there's certainly a lot of potential for additional veins. As you probably saw in the press release, the short vertical, reverse circulation drilling that we're doing. We've identified a new vein there. And it's going to take some work to get it all figured out and continue to build the resources there.

Trevor Turnbull

Analyst · Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, great. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

And I will now turn the call back to Mr. Baker for closing remarks.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Okay. Well, thanks everyone. I'll just remind you that if you'd like to have a conversation with Lindsay, Lauren or me. We've set up an opportunity for calls for tomorrow morning. You can find that in our press release and we would encourage you to reach out to us then, for those calls or you can certainly call Mike or I directly. So thanks very much. Be safe. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.