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Hecla Mining Company (HL)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, May 7, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Hecla Mining Company First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host for today Mr. Mike Westerlund, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Mike Westerlund

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us for Hecla’s first quarter 2015 financial and operations results conference call. The financial news release that was issued today before the market opened along with today’s presentation, are available on Hecla’s website. On today’s call, we have Phil Baker, Hecla’s President and CEO; Jim Sabala, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Larry Radford, Hecla’s Senior Vice President, Operations; and Dean McDonald, Senior Vice President, Exploration. Any forward-looking statements made today by the management team come under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act and constitute forward-looking information under Canadian Securities law as shown on slide two. Such statements include projections and goals which involve risks detailed in our most recent Form 10-K, Form 10-Q and in the forward-looking disclaimer included in the earnings release and at the beginning of the presentation. These risks could cause results to differ from those projected in the forward-looking statements. In addition, in our filings with the SEC, we are only allowed to disclose mineral deposits that we can economically and legally extract or produce. Investors are cautioned about our use of terms such as measured, indicated and inferred resources and we urge you to consider the disclosures that we make in our SEC filings. With that, I will pass the call to Phil Baker.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Thanks Mike, hello everyone. We have seen relative outperformance of our shares this year, as you can see on slide three. As of a couple of days ago, we were up 13% compared to silver which are at 6% and selection of intermediate peers which are 1% and the selection of junior silver companies which are down 12%. So why this outperformance by Hecla? If you go to slide four, we believe the market’s recognition of four characteristics that Hecla has caused our stock to outperform. First, I cannot overstate how well Greens Creek has performed since we acquired it and turned into a Hecla mine. Our investment and de-risking of the mine has paid significant dividends and as it has been the production and cash flow engine for Hecla for most of seven years. The thing that has changed in the past year is the addition of The Lucky Friday and Casa Berardi. With the second quarter earnings release last year, there has been solid performance from the Lucky Friday and Casa is slowly becoming a Hecla mine. And if you look at the top left quadrant on slide four, you can see how our silver equivalent production has increased to 142% since 2012. Secondly, our mines continue to show cost performance with the combination of cost management and the benefit of polymetallic orebodies. This is demonstrated by the strong margins we earn on our silver production which was 68% in 2013 and increased to 74% in 2014 despite the lower realized price. The third reason I think our shares have outperformed is the success we have had in growing our reserves despite declining prices. As you can see on the bottom right quadrant, this year’s silver reserves were up 2% over last year to a 173 million ounces…

Jim Sabala

Analyst

Thank you, Phil. Slide seven shows the driver of the financial metrics, production. Silver production increased by 16% over the first quarter of 2014 as a result of higher grades at both Greens Creek and Lucky Friday. Gold production was 41,000 ounces which is 12% lower than reported in Q1 2014 due to lower recoveries at Casa Berardi which is being addressed, as Larry will further discuss. The reduction in operating cash flow is mainly due to lower metal prices and normal working capital fluctuations, the largest of which is the shipment of zinc concentrate at Greens Creek that will be realized in the second quarter and is worth about $4 million. The decline in adjusted EBITDA is also principally due to lower metals prices. During 2015 three of the four metals we produced, experienced lower prices compared to the previous year’s quarter. The realized silver price was down 14%, gold 6% and lead 13% while zinc was up 4%. As you can see on slide eight, we have production from four products from three separate geographical areas. In the first quarter, 36% of our revenue came from gold, 37% from silver, 16% from zinc and 11% from lead. We are beginning to see improved price movement in both lead and zinc. Zinc has moved up to $1.08 range and lead to $0.94 from averages of $0.94 and $0.82 respectively in the first quarter. The improved prices of these byproducts is expected to help maintain our low cash cost per ounce for future periods. We have hedged a portion of our base metals production as you can see on slide nine, and have not entered into any recent positions given the lower price for both lead and zinc over the last couple of quarters. This is typical for us, as…

Larry Radford

Analyst

Thanks Jim. Greens Creek continues to be the cash flow engine of the company. You can see on slide 15 that the cash cost after byproduct credits of $3.23 per ounce continues to be quite low. It did increase from the prior year period in part due to lower byproduct revenues. Silver production was consistently strong from higher silver grades as a result of normal mine sequencing and higher silver and gold recoveries. Changes made to the flotation circuit in the fourth quarter of 2014 have resulted in higher silver recovery, the changes involve taking flotation concentrate in the first flotation sale directly to the final product, something that we call catch and release flotation, which frees up downstream grinding and flotation capacity. The mill operated 2,172 tons per day during the first quarter of 2015. The mine continues to run on hydro power and the outlook is positive for the remainder of the year, although always dependant on the weather. Construction of the plant expansion of the Greens Creek tailings facility has begun. The total capital budget is expected to be $18 million in 2015. On slide 16, you can see the steady production and cost performance that we have come to expect from Lucky Friday. The mine produced 837,000 ounces of silver at a cash cost after byproduct credits of $9.05 per ounce. On 4 Shaft on slide 17, we have excavated below the 7,500 level and are beyond the 7,650 level which is actually approaching 2 miles of total depth. The project is now budgeted at $225 million and we expect completion in Q3 of 2016 which is scheduled to be followed by lateral development at the 7,500 level. This should enable access to higher grade ore zones, potentially increasing silver production at Lucky Friday to around…

Dean McDonald

Analyst

Thanks Larry. During the first quarter, we had active exploration drill programs underground at Greens Creek and Casa Berardi and on surface of Casa Berardi and San Sebastian. At all three locations, we continue to have strong results that should translate into new reserves and resources. And highlights are optimism for our operations and at the San Sebastian project as we advance towards production decision. A series of tables are provided at the end of the Q1 press release that show a succession of impressive intersection at each of these sites. Slide 20 shows the plan view of veins at the San Sebastian project and outlined within the orange colored ellipse, the area where recent exploration drilling has been focused. We continue to intersect high grade southeast extensions to the East Francine, middle and north veins that contain near surface mineralization that may be suitable for open pit mining. At the East Francine Vein, we have expanded the area of near surface supergene enrichment and potentially added new resources at depth that could be accessed from the underground workings of the past producing Francine Vein. Recent drilling of the middle vein has identified a new zone of high grade near surface mineralization to the southeast of the San Ricardo Fault that remains open. Deeper drilling of the north vein southeast of the fault has intersected strong continuous mineralization and current drilling is defining the vein towards surface. On slide 21, you can see from a 3D schematic that the veins tend to flatten near surface which is encouraging for an open pit mining scenario. Included in the 16.2 million ounces of indicated resources within 325 feet of surface that we reported in January of this year, are several pockets of very high grade supergene and oxide mineralization on the East…

Phil Baker

Analyst

Thanks Dean. And we are in a strong position in our industry. Our high quality assets give us flexibility to continue to invest in our mines, making them more consistent, safer and longer lived. We currently have the financial strength to potentially make acquisitions and investments as we see opportunities. And we now have the strongest growth pipeline we’ve had in years. We expect near term silver growth from San Sebastian, growth in the mid-term from Lucky Friday and potential growth in the long-term upon closing the Revett acquisition. This quarter’s strong performance was in a weak metals price environment and it’s not going always be that way but in the mean time we’re going to focus our energy on making our good assets even better and advancing our growth initiatives. So with that, operator, we would like to have the line opened for questions.

Q - Jorge Beristain

Analyst

My question is just your comments about how quickly you could get San Sebastian to become an operating mine, permits are in hand, you’re approaching, it seems like a rational low CapEx kind of approach. Could you talk about when the CapEx decision would be made there; what is the bottleneck, it sounds like you need to get the third-party milling contracts done; and what kind of order of magnitude CapEx we could expect and what kind of expected production we could see by year-end, next year and then on an annualized basis? Thanks.

Phil Baker

Analyst

I guess what I will start with is that the gating item for us is the mill, getting access to a mill that will allow us to process material. And we’re in -- we’ve identified a number of mills that could work and we’re in discussions with those parties. And how long that will take is unclear, but I assume it would be a number of months and we would have that resolved. Once we do that, then there is a bit of capital that we need to spend and the capital would certainly be less than $10 million. And then we’re off to the races. This is near surface material; it’s -- we’ll use a contract miner; we’ve identified some contractors to be able to mine the material and so we will start that. In terms of the amount of production, it’s going to be a short lived project, something order of magnitude a year to two years. It’s really filling the gap for 2016, 2017 as the Lucky Friday goes to this higher level of production in the second half of ‘17, ‘18. So, that’s the objective that we have. I will stop there and see Jim if you have something you want to add or Larry?

Jim Sabala

Analyst

The only thing I would add Phil, is when we talk about a couple of years, that’s mining this high grade area that is right after surface. And of course Hecla has done business in this district in the past. We know that the orebodies continue and vein type systems at depth. And so a key part of the program will be continuing to explore the extent of those veins to come up with a longer term mine plan. But right now, our focus as Phil has indicated, would be on those high grade near surface areas for the first couple of years.

Jorge Beristain

Analyst

Okay.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Larry, anything to add? Let’s just see if these guys have anything they want to add, Larry?

Larry Radford

Analyst

Yes, it’s important to highlight that we’re actually doing the mine planning now. Actually we have AMC in Vancouver is doing mine planning as part of the PEA exercise. And what Phil is referring to is the open part of the mine planning. But there is clearly an underground element as well and we’re in that process. We got to finish the work.

Dean McDonald

Analyst

The only other thing to add Jorge is that we have four drills operating there now. Two of them are in an in-fill but the other two we continue to find near surface oxide mineralization along strike. Our drilling in advance of that drilling shows that these veins continue for significant distances. So, over that two to three-year period, I would anticipate we’re going to keep finding more mineralization, both at surface and at depth.

Jorge Beristain

Analyst

Okay, but just to try to get an order of magnitude, you’re talking around 1 million to 2 million ounces of silver per year over sort of two years, and what kind of payback are you kind of talking?

Dean McDonald

Analyst

Probably closer to 3 million ounces, may be more, but certainly 3 I think is a conservative estimate over a couple of years, per year. Jim, anything?

Jim Sabala

Analyst

Yes, that 3 million would be equivalent because there is a substantial gold credit here.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Yeah.

Jorge Beristain

Analyst

And the payback there or could you give us any color on what kind of unit?

Jim Sabala

Analyst

Look, I would think that we're talking in excess of $30 million of free cash flow. We have 70 million of NOLs in Mexico that we will be utilizing, so there is going to be minimal tax loss here. So it's, it looks very, very attractive.

Jorge Beristain

Analyst

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Bridges of JP Morgan. Your line is open, please go ahead.

John Bridges

Analyst

Just wondered the metallurgy at Casa Berardi, how big do you think that's going to be? Revett produced a separate concentration and adulterated that, when they had the preferred refractory. What sort of, what are the options there?

Phil Baker

Analyst

Go ahead Larry.

Larry Radford

Analyst

Yeah the change that we contemplated was that of flotation circuit, it's not a whole ore flotation, just a take off circuit, and that flotation concentrate would be reground and put to an intense of leach. We believe now that this is such a small part of the sedimentary part of the ore body that it's not worth 20 million that we estimated to put this in. We don’t believe that a large part of the ore body and our challenge now is really to identify exactly how much it is and to better handle it.

John Bridges

Analyst

Okay, okay, great. And then moving on the, how do you see that developing, the permitting process though probably be quite extended, so what sort of hoops have to jump through and do you see any sort of potential issues?

Phil Baker

Analyst

I guess the first thing I would say John is that the Revett team I think has done a very good job of advancing the permitting and in dealing with the community that built great relationships with the folks in the community and there is actually a significant amount of support for the project in the local community, and we will just be continuing the process that they have begun. They actually got their decision to be able to take this forward in 2009 and then it was subject to lawsuits. And so there has been revision that they have made as a result of the lawsuits and that should be the final supplemental IS should be coming out some time within the next year or so. We're anticipating that there will be additional permitting that we'll need to do and additional work and we are prepared to do those things. We think with the experience that we have in Juneau at Admiralty Island with the bear population there it's analogous to what that needs to be done at Rock Creek. And so we think we will be able to show the ability to properly manage things and be able to build even more support than Revett has had. Having said that we think it's going to be a long process. So we are not envisioning this being a producing asset for the better part of 10 to 15 years. But we do think we will make steady progress on it.

John Bridges

Analyst

Okay, looks very interesting. Congratulations on results and best of luck.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Hey, thanks John.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And that does conclude the question-and-answer period. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Phil Baker for any closing remarks.

Phil Baker

Analyst

Thanks very much for participating in the call. If you have any questions, please feel free to give Mike Westerlund a call or me a call. Thanks very much. Have a good day.