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Hecla Mining Company (HL)

Q1 2009 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 28, 2009

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Hecla Mining First Quarter 2009 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Anne, and I will be your coordinator for today’s call. (Operator instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. We will be facilitating a question-and-answer session following the presentation. I would now like to turn the presentation over to Mr. Don Poirier, Vice President of Corporate Development. Please proceed, sir.

Don Poirier

President

Thanks Anne. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us today on our first quarter conference call. Our call is being webcast today at www.hecla-mining.com. Our news release from earlier today is available on the website and there is also a slide presentation posted to the same site that we will use as part of this call to assist you in understanding some of the information that will be discussed. On today's call, we have Phil Baker, Hecla's President and CEO, and he is joined by Jim Sabala, Senior Vice President and CFO; Ron Clayton, Senior Vice President of Operations; and Dean McDonald, Vice President, Exploration. But before we get started, I need to remind you that any forward-looking statements made today by the management team comes under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. It involves a number of risks that could cause results to differ from projections. In addition to our filings at the SEC, we are allowed to disclose mineral deposits that we can economically and legally extract or produce. Investors are cautioned about our use of such terms as measured, indicated, and inferred resources and we urge you to consider those disclosures that are provided in our SEC filings. With that, it gives me great pleasure to introduce Phil Baker, Hecla's President and Chief Executive Officer.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Thanks Don. Hello everyone and thank you for joining the call. This has been a good quarter. We had strong operating performance, we had better prices which largely doubled our revenue and improved balance sheet and continued the exploration success of Lucky Friday. We think this first quarter performance validates our belief that the difficult issues facing the company in the fourth quarter were temporary. We believed then and we believe now that the economic environment will favor our US silver company with high-quality assets. US dollar will not continue to be strong with the quantitative easing underway at least not against silver and gold. Chinese have made clear they believe a change in the global monitory system needs to be contemplated and they’re voting with their dollars, doubling their gold reserves. This week, we’ve seen the additional stress of the swine flu. We will see if it’s a scare or a real thing, but what is clear is the world economy is very fragile and we like the rational for precious metal as a restorer value. And we think this first quarter demonstrates the Hecla over time is away to leverage that value. So let me run through why? Operating performance improved compared to both a year ago in 2008’s fourth quarter. If you look at slide two, it shows how silver production has increased due to better grades an additional ton through the mill. At Greens Creek, we have production balanced with development backfilling to achieve more and a consistent feed to the mill, close to 2,100 tons per day. A full mill and lower consumable costs has driven the cost per ton down dramatically. We are working to maintain maybe improve our throughput. At the Lucky Friday, in addition to increasing throughput and recover, we’ve been mining…

Jim Sabala

Management

Thank you, Phil. Much has changed at Hecla compared with the first quarter of 2008. We acquired the 70% of the Greens Creek we did not own, thereby increasing our interest to a 100%. In addition, we disposed our interests in Venezuela. And last but certainly not least, we dealt with the aftermath of a global recession, market volatility, and loss in macroeconomic liquidity not experienced since the Great Depression. Earnings release discussed the quarter-on-quarter performance for the first quarter 2008 versus 2009. I would like to focus my comments today on the progress made in the first quarter of 2009 as compared to the previous fourth quarter of 2008. The first quarter of 2009 is characterized by several main events. Significant improvement in operational performance at the Greens Creek and Lucky Friday mines. Significant reduction in per ton operating cost, improvement in metals prices for all four of our metals as compared with the previous quarter and the restructuring of our credit facility. During the first quarter, our realized prices for silver, gold, zinc and lead increased by 48%, 25%, 80% and a 103% respectively as set forth on slide seven and eight. With regard to operating performance as set forth on slides nine and ten, during the first quarter, we produced 2.9 million ounces of silver, an increase over quarter four of 13%, while gold production was constant at 18,000 ounces. Lead production was up 6% to 10,200 tons and zinc was down 4% to 18,700 tons. With regard to the efficiency or cost of production as set forth on slide 11, our cost per ton mined and milled was down 12% at Greens Creek mine and 20% at Lucky Friday as the cost controlled initiatives we previously communicated began to show up in our financial statistics. And to set forth on slide 12, the cost savings combined with higher production levels, better by-product prices drove the cash cost per ounce of silver down to $4.67 per ounce, a 38% decrease from the fourth quarter of 2008 level of $7.49. As mentioned in our press release, there were two factors that also impacted Q1 earnings favorably, one, the sale of our mill in Mexico, which resulted in a gain of $6.2 million. And two, the termination of an employee retire medical plan which reduced liabilities by $9 million. Including these items, our EBITDA for the quarter was $31.4 million, compared to a negative $9.4 million in the previous quarter. And even if these items were excluded, Q1 EBITDA was (inaudible), a $25.6 million improvement over the previously reported quarter. All combined, we reported net income applicable to common shareholders of $3.9 million, compared to a loss of $40.7 million in the prior quarter. So overall, we feel, we’ve made significant progress during the quarter by accomplishing the goals of increasing production, lowering operating costs, and improving financial performance. And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Ron Clayton.

Ron Clayton

Management

Thanks Jim and good morning. Last two quarters, I have talked about several initiatives that we implemented at our operations to stem the tide of the rising cost trends we experienced in 2000 and particularly in 2008. Graphs on slide 13 show cost per ton for mining and milling in bars measured on left hand access and throughput per day as the line graph measured on the right hand access. Since Jim demonstrated with an earlier slide, operating costs were reduced 20% at Lucky Friday and 12% at Greens Creek over the last quarter. As you can see here, our first quarter results are now back in the range of the cost profile we saw in early 2007. Some of the successful initiatives behind these results include stabilizing our workforce at the appropriate levels with lower turnover for the first time in several years has helped us focus, supervision, and training on improving efficiencies and increasing production at Greens Creek. The maintenance group there has made tremendous strides in improving availabilities to both mobile and fixed equipments throughout the operation. This has been a key driver in increased throughput and reduced operating cost. Significant reductions in the cost diesel fuel and increased availability of hydro power have also been key cost reduction drivers at Greens Creek. Increased throughput and reductions in supply cost coupled with labor reductions have been the key cost drivers at Lucky Friday – cost reduction drivers of the Lucky Friday. I am pleased with our performance to date and congratulate our operating teams at both mines on the results they have achieved. We have more work to do and I expect to continue these trends. Slide 14, uses silver grade and price to demonstrate the effects of our grade control practices and responding to changing metal…

Dean McDonald

President

Thank you, Ron. Although there has been a reduced exploration budget for 2009, some important programs continued during the first quarter that will carry on for the reminder of the year. At the last conference call, we talked about the spectacular increase in the silver resource at the Lucky Friday as shown by the grade by width longitudinal in slide 16, where the hotter colors represent higher grade and thickness of the resource. Drilling continues to refine and expand those high grade Central and Eastern areas at 81 holes, 52 holes since our 2008 resource estimate have now intercepted mineralization below the 6,300 level. When you refer to the table in the slide, you can see the 30 vein grades and thickness increasing from 10.3 ounces per ton silver and a 13.9 foot average thickness at the 6,300 to 6,500 levels to 15.7 ounces per ton silver and a 15.2 foot average thickness at the 6,500 to 7,000 levels. Improving mineralization continues down to the 7,750 level, where have an average of 19.1 ounces per ton silver and a 16.5 foot average thickness from widely spaced drill holes. When you look at the longitudinal, you might get the impression that there are hard boundaries to the West and the East, but that is not the case as we will evaluate the post mineral silver fault to the West of the resource where the 30 vein may continue into a 4,000 foot long block that projects to the past producing star veins. This is a big perspective target that has not been adequately explored due to access not geology. To the East, the lone intersection of the 30 vein at the 7,400 level contains one foot at 87.6 ounces per ton silver and 26.3% combined lead and zinc. This is 610…

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Thanks Dean. The message we hope you are getting is that we’ve overcome a difficult situation and the future looks good. And before I take questions that will test that thought, let me just say that silver is pretty much traded between $12 and $14 this year and nothing has seemed to move it. My view is it’s only a matter of time before the impact of all the actions being taken by governments around the world will result in an upward reevaluation of silver and gold. At the moment, there is a struggle by central banks to fight deflation. If you read Bernanke's own words that it’s a battle he will not lose. When the log-jam of deflation is overcome, then silver will not just maintain its value as it’s been doing over the last few months, but will dramatically rise. In the meantime, Hecla will do what we are doing best at not predicting metals prices, but exploring, developing and mining our assets. Don with that, you can have the operator start the Q&A.

Don Poirier

President

Okay, thanks very much, Phil. Anne, could you please instruct and organize the questions for the next portion of the call please.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions). And our first question comes from the line of Anthony Sorrentino with Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed.

Anthony Sorrentino

Analyst · Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed

Hello everyone.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Hi Tony.

Anthony Sorrentino

Analyst · Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed

What would you project capital spending to be for all of 2009?

Phil Baker

President and CEO

I will let Jim answer that question.

Jim Sabala

Management

Yes, for the entire year Anthony, it’s projected to be in about the $32 million to $33 million level.

Anthony Sorrentino

Analyst · Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed

Okay. And would you give a breakdown of that by property?

Jim Sabala

Management

I don’t have that, Anthony, right at my finger tips. So I believe it’s about $15 million at the Lucky Friday and the balance at Greens Creek.

Anthony Sorrentino

Analyst · Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed

Okay. And what options are you considering to access levels below the current working areas of Lucky Friday.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Well, why don’t I ask Ron to talk about that? Ron you might give some background as to where we are now and where we’re currently projected to go.

Ron Clayton

Management

The current mine plan that we are working under right now it’s – it goes up to 2,015 and gets down to roughly at the 6,200 level. That mine plan is based on continuing ramps below 59. From thereon, we have looked at a number of different options that range anything from trying to sink a winds from that rough elevation down to as deep as 8,000. We are looking at a number of other options including ramps, conveyer ramps, those kinds of things, and just looking at the tradeoffs between capital and operating cost.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Yes, it’s a – Anthony it’s a high class problem to have the material below us increasing in value, it looks like might be increasing in value dramatically.

Ron Clayton

Management

Yes, it’s a lot of options for us. Good ahead.

Jim Sabala

Management

And Anthony as a follow-up, it’s $11 million at the Lucky Friday and the balance of the number I gave you is at Greens Creek.

Anthony Sorrentino

Analyst · Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed

Okay, very good. And – and like you said, that is a good, good problem to have that as you go down deeper when in most cases your cost to mine would become more expensive, it’s going to be more than justified by the higher grades and the increased width of the ore.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

We certainly hope so.

Anthony Sorrentino

Analyst · Sorrentino Metals. Please proceed

Okay, thank you very much.

Ron Clayton

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from the line of Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed.

Wayne Atwell

Analyst · Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed

Good afternoon.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Hi Wayne.

Wayne Atwell

Analyst · Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed

Can you tell us what you have in the terms of additional cost cutting opportunities?

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Sure. Things that are obvious we of course have done and so the things that we will be looking at are not I guess I would characterize as being anything of a particularly material amount. When you think about our balance sheet, trying to restructure the debt that we have will be one of the places that we would – would look to see reductions in the cost. That interest charge is a big number for us over the coming year. Operationally, I will let Ron make any comments that he might have. But before he does that just from a G&A standpoint, we did a reduction in force for G&A in exploration and operations. And I don’t foresee doing anything further there that’s on a – that’s dramatic. Ron you want to add anything.

Ron Clayton

Management

No. From an operating standpoint, the keys are going to be continuing to try to drive the production up at the Greens Creek and that’s not going to be an easy task, but there are some easy opportunities there. And –

Wayne Atwell

Analyst · Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed

So that’s up from the 21 –

Ron Clayton

Management

Up from the 2,100 and again that’s not something that I expect to see big changes in the near future, but that’s going to be one of the main focuses. And really the other opportunities that we have are just to continue to try to shave on costs of materials and efficiency of use of those materials. So – and for example, the Lucky Friday, one of the big drivers we are working on is trying to reduce the reagents used in the water treatment plant that we are trying the water for discharge with. So it’s going to be – that’s an example of things that we are working on, trying to be a little more efficient with explosive uses and things like that. These are the more difficult but potentially some savings.

Wayne Atwell

Analyst · Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed

Thank you. And what would you like to look like in five – three years to five years. I know you have a number of properties you are working on. Which is the most likely to go into production and as I said, what’s your goal, what would you like to look in three to five years?

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Well in three to five years, there is really four things that I guess I would like to see happen that relates to the four properties that we have. At Greens Creek what we are hopeful for is a discovery of additional mineralization both within the mine itself and adjacent to it where we can utilize the existing infrastructure and we have targets that – and Dean really just talked about one set of targets that we have, well I guess that’s not true, he talked about some of the targets that we have within the mine and those that are close by. So there what we are working for is really an extension of the mine life. At the Lucky Friday, what we would hope is that in that three year – three to five year timeframe that we would be developing that deeper mineralization that we are identifying with the exploration that we are doing at our operation in our property set in Southern Colorado, we would like to see the exploration that we are doing and the modeling that we are doing really result in a development plan and a – and permits to start construction on that facility there and that’s feasible in that three to five year timeframe. And then in Mexico, really what we would like to see is a new discovery there. So that’s what the existing assets that we have and I guess I would also add that at the Greens Creek, seeing increased tonnage through that property. So that’s a – our existing properties. We think though that we have skills that we can bring to other assets and so we are looking at opportunities to bring new assets into Hecla and those aren’t just silver assets. Wayne, we are also – think that we can bring our small tonnage underground expertise to gold assets. We think there is also smaller open pit gold assets that could fit Hecla. And so we will be looking at those as well.

Wayne Atwell

Analyst · Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed

Great, thank you. And lastly, do you think you will be able to rework the terms of your debt and reduce the cost on it?

Phil Baker

President and CEO

We’re going to be striving to do that. And I mean at some point, the answer is we will absolutely will be able to – the – certainly Hecla looks a heck of a lot better now than we did in the fourth quarter and so it’s a different company and we think we will be able to improve that overtime.

Wayne Atwell

Analyst · Wayne Atwell with Casimir Capital. Please proceed

Good, thank you.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Sure.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions). And the next question comes from the line of Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed.

Mike Jalonen

Analyst · Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed

Hi Phil.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Hi Mike.

Mike Jalonen

Analyst · Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed

Good stuff this quarter to say the least. I have got a couple of questions I guess for your team there. I guess the first one for Jim. Just wondering Jim, I thought your realized prices were up above the spot price for the quarter, what was – what was deposit of price adjustment for provisional settlements in the quarter. I assume you must have had something.

Jim Sabala

Management

Well they go on during the period, Mike. I think the easiest way to have that is you can look at our realized price versus the spot price and that gives you the idea – the magnitude in that change.

Mike Jalonen

Analyst · Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed

But they’re measured through what April 16th, was that –

Jim Sabala

Management

No, March 31st is actually the measure date and still outstanding in the accounting period. But just a delta on the prices we have set forth in our key statistics times the volumes sold will give you that number for each of the metals.

Mike Jalonen

Analyst · Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed

Okay, thank you. I guess on the exploration side, with your budget cutback, I was wondering what the potential replace reserves Lucky Friday and Greens Creek are for 2009, that’s still a goal of the company?

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Yes, it certainly is a goal of the company. I think in both properties, I think the constrain is going to be the amount of the drilling we do rather than is it fair or not, it’s going to be able to – us being able to actually measure it. So while we would hope we would be able to do it, we are not going to be overly concerned if we are not. Clearly and particularly at the Lucky Friday, we are clearly seeing the mineralization emerging there.

Jim Sabala

Management

And as a follow-up for you Mike, the aggregate amount for all the metals was $5.4 million.

Mike Jalonen

Analyst · Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed

Okay. Thank you very much. And a last question, Phil. Like I mentioned, you’ve had a very good quarter and are you still making your forecast for this year, 10 million to 11 million ounces of silver and cash cost of $6 per ounce, obviously you annualize your numbers in the first quarter and things look a lot better than that?

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Yes, we are still there at this point. Let’s take one step at a time.

Mike Jalonen

Analyst · Mike Jalonen with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed

Okay. Well, thank you and good luck.

Phil Baker

President and CEO

Thanks Mike.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen that concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Don Poirier for closing remarks.

Don Poirier

President

Okay. That – while – and that concludes our call for this quarter. We appreciate people joining us for the first quarter call. Feel free to contact me, Don Poirier, for any additional questions. My phone number is area code 208 and my number is 769-4141. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.